Vanity or Confidence
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All of us are susceptible to occasional bouts of vanity. Some people find it difficult to resist a chance to gaze lovingly at themselves in a mirror or talk at length about their favorite subject- themselves. In The Rape of the Lock, Pope holds up a different kind of mirror, one that he hoped would prompt people to take a more critical look at themselves. Think about your own experience. What is the line between vanity and overconfidence, and how do you know when someone has crossed it? How do you respond to people's vanity? Craft a complete and well-reasoned response, and then respond to two classmates' posts.
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Vanity refers to people being too prideful in their own abilities or achievements, whereas overconfidence indicates someone having more confidence than they should have and misjudging their abilities. People cross the line between vanity and overconfidence by overestimating their abilities and being excessively prideful for their actions. When others exhibit their vanity, I tend to ignore them.
I agree with how you define vanity and overconfidence. It is very clear to understand. I also like your response to people’s vanity; ignoring is the best way we can choose for both ourselves and themselves!
The line between vanity and overconfidence is that vanity comes from achievements that have already been done, or their physical appearance/attractiveness. On the other hand, a person can be overly confident for no reason and not have accomplished anything. Someone crosses the line to vanity when they believe they are the best of the best when it comes to looks and actions. Someone crosses the line of overconfidence when they show no fear or humility, and believe they can do anything. People’s vanity can be annoying, and if is then I will simply look the other way. Being full of yourself to an overwhelming extent is not an attractive trait.
I strongly agree with the following statement: “Someone crosses the line to vanity when they believe they are the best of the best when it comes to looks and actions.” Great point.
I agree when you say “being full of yourself to an overwhelming extent is not an attractive trait.” What an individual may be vain about could initially be an attractive trait but when they acknowledge it and kind of rub it in other people’s faces, that’s when it becomes irritating.
Vanity is an inflated pride in appearance or achievement, while overconfidence is an excess of confidence in ability or judgment. In other words, if someone is proud of his or her physical aspects, he or she has a vanity. On contrary, if someone is proud of his or her logical aspects, he or she has an overconfidence. I respond to people’s vanity with advice that vanity makes people blind and blunder.
Your point about the distinction between vanity and confidence is quite interesting and I agree that good advice for these people would be telling them to face the truth.
Well defined terms and your ability to distinguish the two very similar words.
I am crying at your kindness towards the people around you.
Overconfidence refers to when someone is too proud of himself and boast about everything. For instance, certain soccer player might be overconfidence about his skill and then thinks he is the greatest player of all time. Whereas, the vanity refers to something that is impossible to achieve. Although this might sound same as overconfidence, there is a clear distinction.When soccer player thinks he is the greatest player of all time is overconfidence but when non-soccer player or normal person thinks himself or herself is the greatest soccer player of all time, then that is vanity. To summarize, overconfidence is confident about something that are really unlikely to achieve and vanity is dreaming of something that is impossible. Also, this is my way to distinguish whether someone has crossed the boundary between the vanity and confidence. When someone close to me is full of vanity, I would advise oneself to look at the reality.
His approach to the word ‘vanity’ is refreshingly logical and convincing. I generally like his explanation and specific and relevant examples about the concept of vanity and confidence. Vanity sometimes refers to dreaming of something impossible, and overconfidence refers to thinking of something that is hard to be achieved.
The example of soccer player made your point easy to understand and I agree with the advice.
Your explanations with examples (soccer player) about vanity and overconfidence are specific and reasonable. I agree with your idea.
The difference between vanity and overconfidence can be identified in various ways. The word vanity refers to the excessive pride that people usually have when they make certain achievements. Overconfidence means that people are confident so that they can lead to overestimate their abilities. The latter can be more deadly than the former, since they can misunderstand and misjudge their capibilities, leading themselves to make mistakes, which sometimes are deadly.
People often cross the the line of vanity when they put too much pride on what they have done. Someone encounters overconfidence when he or she excessively evaluate their abilities based on their previous achievements or experiences.
I believe the same way, fully. Overconfidence is deadlier than vanity.
I like how you identified the difference in the intensity of these two terms. Good job.
However, in the last paragraph, both of the definition seems to be very close in meaning making it a bit confusing.
Vanity and overconfidence differ in a way. For example, a homeless person can have excessive pride of their money/value knowing they can’t buy anything expensive, while overconfidence over their money can’t exists with the reality that they can’t buy anything expensive. Someone who is vain can potentially be overconfident, however, that doesn’t mean everyone who is vain is overconfident about something. Thus, I believe the line between vanity and overconfidence is very shallow. You know someone crosses the line when they try something reckless. It is both not healthy to have vanity or overconfidence, however, it is not wrong to have vanity. But it is wrong to have overconfidence as consequences always follow reckless behavior. I do not tend to criticize people’s vanity, but try to advise not to be overconfident.
Your idea is really thoughtful. I can see how you interpret the line between vanity and overconfidence clearly. I also like this part:“I do not tend to criticize people’s vanity, but try to advise not to be overconfident.”
Vanity would be confidence based on fact and overconfidence would be unrealistic beliefs in self. If someone around me shows overconfidence, I would probably ignore him and let him live in his own world.
I think the difference between vanity and overconfidence is a presence or degree of experience. People usually have vanity because they have not yet experienced how hard it is to achieve something by your own. On the other hand, people with overconfidence are likely to achieve a success simply by chance or luck without paying a huge effort. They might not yet undergo a series of failures or face much stronger rival, making them more self absorbed and incapable. I often notice that someone has crossed the line between vanity and overconfidence when he begins to focus on the outcome rather than the progress. I sometimes hesitate to advise someone with vanity or overconfidence because I am not free from them as well. I just hope they realize that they are on a wrong track and get out of there as soon as possible.
I agree that people easily get overconfident in one’s own ability and become self-absorbed and incapable. I also hope they would get out of that track and be humble.
I believe the line between vanity and overconfidence is on whether or not the achievement one has made is deserved to be boasted. While vanity is being proud of one’s actual accomplishments, overconfidence is being proud of an overestimate subjects that is unreasonable to be boasted. Thereofore, one has crossed the line between vanity and overconfidence when one overvalues one’s own work. I would not resist one’s vanity, but it would be pleasing if one keeps it to oneself.
Having excessive pride while being ignorant towards your own misconception: Overconfidence.
Self-obsession, admiring yourself: vanity.
When you are overconfident, your just overestimating what you can do not thinking about the consequences your act might bring. However, vanity is when you just love yourself, you are the best, you are nal-gang-du. The line is your perspective of others and yourself. The moment where your overconfidence leads your focus narrowly towards yourself, that becomes vanity.
When someone I know is overconfident or is full of vanity, I just show them I really dislike them ^^ Try to convince them not to be but when that doesn’t work, I let them FEEL the Great Wall between me and that person.
Overconfidence and vanity are two different things that are interconnected with each other. Vanity is excessive pride in ones own achievements or appearance. This alone is mostly just annoying but doesn’t generally lead to destruction. Vanity can, on the other hand, can lead to over confidence. When you are so prideful in your own appearance or achievements you impose your pride and confidence on others to the point where you think that it should benefit you in a positive way. If a driver believes that they are the best drifter in the city and boasts about it to other people, that is vanity. But if that driver thinks that they are so good that they could outrun cops in a hot pursuit, that is overconfidence. Overconfidence leads to more destruction. Staying away from vanity can help to prevent overconfidence.
To be overconfident is to have excessive pride in one’s abilities or judgements. Vanity is having excessive pride in one’s appearance or achievements. The difference between these two things is that overconfidence is concerned with one’s actions while vanity is more focused on physical appearance. You can tell when someone has crossed the line when rather than being prideful in their abilities to do something, they become prideful in what they have done. When others display vanity, I tend to look the other way, especially if it makes me feel like lesser of an individual or bad about myself. If not, maybe I’ll hype them up a little bit.
However, there are cases where vanity is too much and I also would look the other way. Sometimes other’s obsession with themselves can put other people down like you said.
Your definitions about overconfidence and vanity are very straightforward and precise. Especially, I like your response to people’s vanity!
Vanity is when people are being pleased only to themselves on what they’ve done with a certain achievement, where overconfidence is having an intense certainty on a specific thing. People generally want to tell his/her peers of what they’ve achieved by exhibiting his/her vanity. I usually ignore to people’s vanity.
I fully agree with what Peter mentioned about vanity. People feel vanity when they are overly pleased to themselves on their certain achievements.
I believe the same way. Vanity is best to be ignored, as it does no harm.
Overconfidence is an overconfidence in one’s ability or judgment. Vanity is excessive pride in one’s appearance or achievements. The difference between the two is that overconfidence is concerned with one’s behavior, while vanity is more concerned with one’s appearance.
We have a sense about it if they cross it. But everybody has a different standard or line, so everyone has a different standard. I usually don’t respond his or her vanity I usually just keep looking at it and be silence and ignore.
Where do you think this sense comes from? Is it innate, or is it just so obvious you can see it clearly? I think this was an interesting observation to make about vanity and overconfidence.
Vanity refers to a negative emotion that arises from the heart of a person. It is selflessness and arrogance expressed by one’s own achievements and knowledge. It is also an emotion that people show in order to obtain glory and attention. On the other hand, overconfidence refers to a person who believes too much and overestimates his abilities. People who are overconfident often overestimate their abilities and underestimate others’ abilities. I do not respond to people’s vanity
I also think not responding to people’s vanity is the best way to handle it!
I agree that people who are overconfident often overestimate their own ability and underestimate other’s abilities. People often higher their own self-confidence by looking down on others, which eventually leads to overconfidence in oneself.
I like that you mention vanity being a negative emotion as well as being arrogant. I also find vain people to be seeking attention.
Vanity could be explained as a person who have excessive satisfaction toward their own appearance or achievements. Whereas, overconfidence means to be totally certain or very self assured in any situation. People tend to cross the line of being overconfident by over expressing their pride and not be concerned about any situation that they are in. On the other hand, people would cross vanity by commenting and comparing on other people’s appearances, believing that they are the only one that’s attractive. I would usually not respond to people’s vanity but if their acts are starting to harm people around them, then I would shut them down.
I agree that people satisfy and show their vanity by comparing with others.
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