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The Broken Promises of Choice in New York City Schools, By Elizabeth A. Harris and Ford Fessenden

Author: Elizabeth A. Harris and Ford Fessenden

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:21PM) : a bunch of kids following directions more

Following directions is important because later in the future you will be on the right path , this connect to me because at that age i followed directions till i graduated middle school

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Jonathan De La Mota (May 08 2017 4:42PM) : i agree
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Kiara Natal (May 08 2017 3:58PM) : i see a group of little kid who are going to high school more

this is important because these students are getting extra time from now to start palling for college. they have the chance to start planning their future from now. this connects to me because i was never able to pan my future as early like these students

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:44PM) : i agree more

Students often need this in order to keep going with their education and getting motivated.

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:45PM) : agree they do
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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:12PM) : i agree more

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Student Justin Cordero (May 08 2017 4:06PM) : I see a teacher or dean of some sort helping make sure kids get to class more

this is important because while i was growing up and when i was messing up in my old school we didnt really have techers or monitors making sure we got to class on time or even went

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:04PM) : In this image i see a teacher and her students. more

The teacher is holding the door for her students which makes this image important because it shows that the teacher has respect for her students and they have respect for her. This is something that we need to see more often in schools.

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Jonathan De La Mota (May 08 2017 4:19PM) : students are preparing for high school more

this topic does not connect to me. what makes it important is middle school students have to prepare for high school by doing so it will make it a easier transition

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:12PM) : thats so true more

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:22PM) : poster more

i see they have notes on the door probably a rule for the students

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:21PM) : down more

is the down stairs

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Derek Aponte (Jun 05 2017 4:32PM) : I see that they city promised these kids a chance in a good school but the city has not provided them with it more

this connects to me because i feel like if i would have been provided with a good school where teachers had controlled amounts of students and good training i would have been more satisfied with going to school

It was a warm Sunday morning, the breeze sweeping aside the last wisps of summer, and 31 students from Pelham Gardens Middle School in the Bronx had signed up to spend the day indoors, at a showcase for New York City’s public high schools.

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The annual fair kicks off the city’s high school application season in September, and Jayda Walker, 13, arrived with a plan.

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An eager young woman with an easy smile, Jayda wants to be a divorce lawyer, and at the fair, held at Brooklyn Technical High School, she planned to focus on schools with a legal theme, located in Manhattan. She had already looked through the high school directory, an intimidating tome the size of an old-fashioned phone book, and thought Manhattan offered more variety. Besides, she said, she wanted to get out of the Bronx.

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Cristal Lebron (May 08 2017 4:07PM) : I see Jayda is explaining what she wants to become and what she wants to do with her future. more

What makes it important is how she has a future planned and looked at resources that can help her achieve her goal. It connects to me because its something similar i want to do.

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:10PM) : This is encouraging for the new generation. [Edited] more

jayda is a young student who have her mind set on being a divorce lawyer. Although most students have an idea as to what they want to be. Most just keep their dream job at the back of their minds. However jayda is actually taking steps to reach her dream. This connects to me because ive always had an idea as to what i want to be when i get older and i am dedicated and doing my best to reach my goal.

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Student Justin Cordero (May 08 2017 4:13PM) : i see a young girl prepared for a open house more

It is important because she was organized ahead of time she knew what she was looking for she had set a goal already so it was no confusion this is important because you have to set goals and know what u want in life i need to be more like this young girl

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Robert Dufour (May 08 2017 4:39PM) : The high school application process is very intimidating more

This year my wife and I assisted our daughter in choosing her high school. The process was not s easy as I thought it would be, in fact I was overwhelmed!

She actually goes to a good middle school that is also a high school but the selection process was still a pain.

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She and her classmates arrived early and were at the front of the line, with hundreds of people behind them eager to get inside.

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But for many of the students from Pelham Gardens, and others like them, it was already too late. The sorting of students to top schools — by race, by class, by opportunity — begins years earlier, and these children were planted at the back of the line.

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Olga Morales (May 08 2017 4:25PM) : in this paragraph i have read how students were being sorted by race, color, class, age , opportunity and so on instead of the students education. more

this is important to me because it is really sad how us students has to struggle for education because of who we are and where we come from, this connects to me because i am a student with color that has had trouble trying to find the right school for me.

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Kenya Fernandez (May 08 2017 4:28PM) : This Students Were Judged On ALL The Wrong Things. They Had There Chances & Either Way They Held Them Back Due To Their Race, Class, & Etc. Which Was Not Right At All more

This Is Important To Because That Extremely Awful & Racist. This Kids Had Just Enough Chance As The Kid Their Opposite Race. It Connects To Me Because I Know How It Feel To Be Judged, People Would Look At Me Wrong & Because Of My Skin Color Spanish People Would Say Slick Things & Not Even Know That I Understand Them Very Well.

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Jayda Walker, a student at Pelham Gardens. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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Under a system created during Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s administration, eighth graders can apply anywhere in the city, in theory unshackling themselves from failing, segregated neighborhood schools. Students select up to 12 schools and get matched to one by a special algorithm. This process was part of a package of Bloomberg-era reforms intended to improve education in the city and diminish entrenched inequities.

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 2:52PM) : the mayor improving the schools more

this is a great idea that mayor Bloomberg is dong because he want the students to succeed with their education thats why he want to improve it

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Robert Dufour (May 08 2017 4:41PM) : The High School selection process more

he high school selection process existed long before Bloomberg!

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There is no doubt that the changes yielded meaningful improvements. The high school graduation rate is up more than 20 points since 2005, as the administration of Mayor Bill de Blasio has built on Mr. Bloomberg’s gains. The graduation gap between white and black or Hispanic students, while still significant and troubling, has narrowed.

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Kiara Natal (May 08 2017 4:20PM) : they talking about the mayor and how they re trying to improve graduation rates more

this is important because is tells how the people part of the board of ed is trying to help high school students graduate. this connects to me because schools need to start changing to that more students are able to graduate

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angie liranzo (May 10 2017 4:42PM) : i agree more

I agree with you. This is a great example of how every high school should be.

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Student Justin Cordero (May 08 2017 4:22PM) : i see a statistic more

this is very important because more and more kids are actually graduating every year this connects to me because i will be graduating this year through all the ups and downs

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But school choice has not delivered on a central promise: to give every student a real chance to attend a good school.

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Cristal Lebron (May 08 2017 4:14PM) : Not every school gives kids an opportunity. more

I see how the feelings are expressed about kids not being able to enter a good school. This is important because its true schools tend to not give students a chance based on their grades and other things. This connects to me because i remembered when i wanted to enter a school that i wanted and i couldn’t because of my grades.

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Jonathan De La Mota (May 08 2017 4:43PM) : i agree
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Derek Aponte (Jun 05 2017 4:37PM) : I can agree with this because I too would be discouraged to show up to school because all I was told was I had no chance even though I had one
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Fourteen years into the system, black and Hispanic students are just as isolated in segregated high schools as they are in elementary schools — a situation that school choice was supposed to ease.

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Kiara Natal (May 08 2017 4:24PM) : this is saying out blacks and hispanics are separated in schools more

this is important because no matter what your race is you should always have the same oppoutunties as any other student in your school . And this just shows hoe main stream schools push blacks and hispanics to the side and thats the main reason for low graduation rights

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Olga Morales (May 08 2017 4:30PM) : this sentence shows how long black and hispanic students are isolated in segregated schools more

this is important to me because it gets me angry how people of other race gets more oppertunies in education than us colored people do, it is not fair for us having to fight everyday to make it where we want to be

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Within the system, there is a hierarchy of schools, each with different admissions requirements — a one-day high-stakes test, auditions, open houses. And getting into the best schools, where almost all students graduate and are ready to attend college, often requires top scores on the state’s annual math and English tests and a high grade point average.

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 2:11PM) : Information on how the system works more

What makes the system important is knowing everything you have to know the pros and cons before attending or enrolling in a school , this connects to me because i already knew how the system worked and i knew whether or not if i was qualified to attend in the best schools

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Those admitted to these most successful schools remain disproportionately middle class and white or Asian, according to an in-depth analysis of acceptance data and graduation rates conducted for The New York Times by Measure of America, an arm of the Social Science Research Council. At the same time, low-income black or Hispanic children like the ones at Pelham Gardens are routinely shunted into schools with graduation rates 20 or more percentage points lower.

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Cristal Lebron (May 08 2017 4:21PM) : even though these kids attend these types of schools they stay in middle class more
I see in this paragraph that even though you attend a good school some kids don’t get out of the middle class. They’re income will still be low and the graduation rates are low. It connects with me because its true only because they get into a good school it doesn’t mean those kids future is going to change in a big way.
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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:46PM) : your right [Edited] Tags: agreeing
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Derek Aponte (Jun 05 2017 4:42PM) : i disagree i feel that if the students are in an environment they are comfortable with it would help them concentrate and stay on track
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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:15PM) : How low income black or hispanic students progress more

This is important because people believe low income students perform low and reading that sentence should be able to know know this and make us look better because already most people believe if you come from a low income family black or hispanic your not most likely to succeed it connects to me because when i entered my first year as a freshman they already look down on us saying we wont graduate on time

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Kiara Natal (May 08 2017 4:30PM) : where blacks and hispanic students are placed in high schools more

this is stating that blacks and hispanic students are placed in high schools that have low graduation rates. this is important because if you put a student in a school where no one graduates from how do you expect that person to overcome that a graduate

While top middle schools in a handful of districts groom children for competitive high schools that send graduates to the Ivy League, most middle schools, especially in the Bronx, funnel children to high schools that do not prepare them for college.

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Cristal Lebron (May 08 2017 4:29PM) : some middle schools don't care about their students basically. more

some middle schools wont help their students get into good high schools that could get them into college. This is important because its true theres many middle schools that wont prepare kids for college. It connects to me because i’ve heard many people talk about this situation.

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The roots of these divisions are tangled and complex. Students in competitive middle schools and gifted programs carry advantages into the application season, with better academic preparation and stronger test scores. Living in certain areas still comes with access to sought-after schools. And children across the city compete directly against one another regardless of their circumstances, without controls for factors like socioeconomic status.

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:16PM) : Students who are gifted more

It makes it important because whether you have problems or not anyone can make it because at one point i was one of those students in elementary being one of the highest in my school

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Ultimately, there just are not enough good schools to go around. And so it is a system in which some children win and others lose because of factors beyond their control — like where they live and how much money their families have.

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Measure of America examined the enormous sorting exercise of high school placement by looking at the graduating class of 2015. When they were applying to high school in 2011, about 30 percent of eighth graders were white or Asian.

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Kenya Fernandez (May 08 2017 2:36PM) : Most Blacks and Hispanics attended unselective schools because that's what was left. Meanwhile, ALL the Whites have were chosen to the selective schools. [Edited] more

I’m truly glad that at least the Blacks and Hispanics still have a school to attend to and to get their education. I hope that they’re getting the same educations as all the Whites.


The Times spent months following the high school application process at Pelham Gardens, where families do not have the advantages that routinely open doors to the city’s best schools. Many families are new to the country, and most are poor.

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The school is new, and just its third graduating class will start high school in the fall. But its guidance counselor, Ayana Bryant, knows the application process as well as anybody. She has worked in middle school guidance for 16 years.

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On the morning of the fair, she took Jayda and the other students to Brooklyn Tech on a yellow school bus in the hope that they would connect with the right schools. But that hope was tempered by her experience.

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Kiara Natal (May 08 2017 2:36PM) : its good students had a counselor like Jayda more

its important for students to have some one like Jayda to teach them from early how hard things really can be and to show them that they really need to work for what they want. this connects to me because i wish had a teacher like her to show me how to get everything done and then maybe i could of went to high school that pushed me forward instead of dragging me down

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“They say it’s choice, but is it really?” she said of the city’s system. “Some schools really aren’t for everybody.”

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 2:55PM) : they need to fix the classroom more

i feel like this don’t look like a classroom and they should give the students a better look of a classroom and better boards even desks for teachers

Each year, about 160 children under Ms. Bryant’s guidance join the flood of 80,000 eighth graders applying for New York City’s public high schools, in a system intended to diminish entrenched inequities. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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Student Justin Cordero (May 08 2017 2:35PM) : teachers helping students be better more

she is trying to help students get into better schools that are dominated by whites and Asian so that the in balance in selective schools will end this connects to me because i am apart of the ids who have a less likely chance of getting selected to these schools

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‘The Beast’

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Founded in 2012, Pelham Gardens Middle School occupies a slice of the northeastern Bronx around the corner from a used-car dealership, and not far from the Co-op City housing development. The building, which looks like a giant cinder block painted the color of butter, contains two other schools and a rooftop field of solar panels. About 95 percent of the middle school’s students are black or Hispanic, many of them the children of Jamaican immigrants or immigrants themselves. Most of them come from poor families.

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The closest subway line, the No. 5, is about a half-mile away, and traveling to other boroughs requires a significant investment of time. The No. 5 train can make more than a dozen stops before it reaches northern Manhattan.

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Kiara Natal (May 08 2017 4:42PM) : transportation more

this is very important because everyone tends to forget the most important part. yes you can try to go to any high school you want but its hard when the school you want to go to is about 2 hours away. its hard for some students to pick high schools because they dont live close to any of them

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:13PM) : true more

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Each year, about 160 children from Pelham Gardens join the flood of 80,000 eighth graders applying for the city’s public high schools. The field on which they compete is enormous: They have to choose from 439 schools that are further broken up into 775 programs. One program may admit students based on where they live, while another program at the same school may admit only those with strong grades.

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 1:09PM) : confused? more

im not understanding why some schools has to be based on you having good grades or based on living ? don’t think it should matter as longs they get their most important education

The sheer number of choices offers up great possibilities, but it can also make the system maddeningly complex, with so many requirements, open houses, deadlines and portfolios to keep track of. Yaslin Turbides helps middle schoolers apply through the Cypress Hills Local Development Corporation, a nonprofit organization in Brooklyn. She said that she and her colleagues called the application system “the beast.”

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Kenya Fernandez (May 10 2017 4:28PM) : Look at Huge stone building! more

Why can’t the school in the Bronx look like pleasant places? So many of the schools look like prisons!

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 2:56PM) : the school more
saw this school before

Pelham Gardens shares a building with two other schools. The middle school is not far from the Co-op City housing development, and many of its students are poor. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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Rare is a 13-year-old equipped to handle the selection process alone.
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The process can become like a second job for some parents as they arm themselves with folders, spreadsheets and consultants who earn hundreds of dollars an hour to guide them. But most families in the public school system have neither the flexibility nor the resources to match that arsenal.

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At a school like Pelham Gardens, much navigation falls to the guidance counselor, and Ms. Bryant is tireless in trying to help the children make the best decisions. She pulls groups of students into her office to explain the basics, trying to get each of them in front of her at least once. She takes them on visits to high schools. She writes tip sheets over the summer, and puts together curriculums so seventh-grade teachers can acquaint their students with the process. She warns students away from the lowest-performing schools.

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Robert Dufour (May 08 2017 4:45PM) : Where are the parents?!!!! more

Every year, there are mandate for teachers to do new things in order to help the students in their care. Many of the policies are in place because the parents are absent!!!!!

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Student Justin Cordero (May 08 2017 4:46PM) : a counselor doing her job at its best more

this is important because u need a guidance counselor who cares about you and is actually trying to help u make the best decision possible that will help u in the future

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Ms. Bryant grew up in the Soundview Houses, a public housing development in the eastern Bronx, an area where she still lives. In addition to being a guidance counselor, she has worked for years at a program that helps low-income students prepare for the specialized high school exam, which admits students to a group of top-performing schools like Stuyvesant High School and the Bronx High School of Science. Her daughter went to Beacon School, on the West Side of Manhattan, one of the highest-performing schools in the city.

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Olga Morales (May 08 2017 4:41PM) : ms bruant and how she has helped students in low income school study for their regents more

this is important because atleast the students are showned that they have someone that can help them , this connects to me because i have gotten help from teachers that are amzing at heart just like ms bruant is

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In January, Ms. Bryant pulled some students into her office so they could practice for their interviews at University Heights Secondary School, a top school in the Bronx where there are 20 applicants for every spot. Two students, Darnell Donaldson and Samantha Suriel, were seated in front of her while the rest of the group observed. Ms. Bryant asked them to tell her about themselves.

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“I like to stand out in class and participate a lot,” Darnell said.

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“I like to study sometimes, or read books,” Samantha said quietly, her face pointed toward the floor.

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“Why should I pick you over him?” Ms. Bryant asked Samantha. Flummoxed, she stammered for a moment before saying she had been on the honor roll since sixth grade.

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:29PM) : A student and teacher interacting more

This is important because communicating with your teacher will help a lot and make your years in middle schools or high school more easier , it connects to me because when i came to pulse when i started communicating with the teachers and staff members it made my work and my time being her so far easier

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Robert Dufour (May 08 2017 4:47PM) : Wow! What a great lady. more

God bless this woman! The pressure she must feel . . . I am inspired.

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Kenya Fernandez (May 10 2017 4:32PM) : This Women Seems Overworked more

Where Are The Parents ? Some Students Wouldn’t Even Have To Go To Their Guidance, They’ll Just Go To Their Parent

Nickoy Francis, a sixth grader, with Ms. Bryant, who has worked in middle school guidance for 16 years. Most of her time is taken up by responsibilities other than advising on the application process. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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Ms. Bryant asked if anyone had a comment or critique.

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“When you walk in, you should introduce yourself, out of politeness,” a girl named Ivyana Rivas offered.

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:30PM) : This is important to our society more

Kids should always be reminded to show respect to get respect. This is important because it helps students prepare for the future where they will have to show respect to others. Thus connects to me because i always tell my little sister that as she gets older things will change and she will have to show respect to everybody in order for others to respect her.

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Ms. Bryant then asked the children whom they would accept.

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A boy called out, “No one!”

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:33PM) : This is an example of why kids should be taught how to behave and how to give respect. more

Instead of shouting the kid couldve stood silent of say it back in a more polite way. This connects to me because i see it often and its not a good look. However people will always learn from their mistakes.

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After all the students had practiced interviewing, Ms. Bryant stood up from her chair. “Some of you, when you shook my hand, you acted like you didn’t want to touch me,” she said.

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“Now I know some of us are germophobes, and Ms. Bryant is one,” she grinned, and her audience chuckled. “I will wash my hands later. But you’ve got to make sure your hand is in their palm,” she said, reaching out to shake a boy’s hand.

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“Your hand is in their palm. Your hand is in their palm,” she repeated as she reached for them one by one.

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:03PM) : figurative speaking more

a great way to tell the students to take with them

Still, most of Ms. Bryant’s time is taken up by the mandated student meetings and accompanying paperwork for children in special education. She is also on the attendance and college committees, and acts as the child-abuse liaison. How much time can she squeeze out of the day to help children find the right high school?

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 2:59PM) : progress more

this s very important cause as each step through school it can be middle school high school and college they all look at the progress or the struggles you have so they can fix whats the problem and be a better person

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Matthew Collier (May 08 2017 3:39PM) : The counselor working in less than optimal situations. more

To me it seems the solution for this is more good schools, otherwise there will never be enough spots for the underprivileged. Ms. Bryant’s task is more challenging than it should be, and may feel impossible. What are your thoughts on how to best desegregate and improve outcomes for poor kids?

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Sharp Differences

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The citywide graduation rate for all kinds of high schools is 72.6 percent, according to the Education Department. But that average masks sharp variations between schools based on their admissions methods. When Measure of America analyzed the rate for each method, it found that selectivity and graduation rates declined essentially in lock step, and that as graduation rates fell, the students were more likely to be poor and black or Hispanic.

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Schools use a variety of methods to select the students they admit.

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:25PM) : How schools accept their students more

This important for students who are hoping to go to their dreams schools that they need to understand that schools look at your progress in middle school , high school and even college . they choose if you get admitted or not based on you . it connects to me because pulse accepted me based on my progress in my old schools

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Derek Aponte (Jun 05 2017 5:01PM) : i noticed that the good school's are the ones with the highest amount of graduation rate and how they are mostly located near high income areas more

this connects to me because i live in a low income area and never was offered the opportunity to assist a good school


Graduation rates are not a perfect proxy for education quality. In many schools, students arrive far behind, and it is a major effort to help them graduate on time. Elsewhere, ninth graders show up on Day 1 doing work at grade level or above, so the steps required to get them diplomas are less onerous. And it is difficult to say how much of a school’s success is because of what happens within its walls — the curriculum, the teachers, the leadership — and how much is because of advantages children bring from home.

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 4:19PM) : catching up if you behind more

ITs important because there are schools you can apply to like pulse school that can help you catch up in time for you to graduate , it connects to me because im in that predicament i came to pulse far behind and i caught up

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But graduation remains a meaningful measure of a school, and of the opportunities it provides. If parents felt they had another option, how many would be happy to send their children to a school where more than a quarter of students do not graduate?

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:36PM) : This is a good look of the staffs and the school. more

The staffs are making sure that the students are under control and in their table. This is important because every school should be like this and this. This connects to me because i constantly have to sit in school and be wait patiently.

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Kenya Fernandez (May 10 2017 4:33PM) : Barely See Kids Eating more

Why Are These Schools So Packed ?
Could This Be Effecting Their Learning?

Students in the Pelham Gardens cafeteria. Low-income black or Hispanic children, like many students at Pelham Gardens, are routinely shunted into schools with low graduation rates.

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Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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For its analysis, Measure of America looked at how individual students were admitted to high school for the 2011-12 academic year, breaking data down by the children’s race, the borough in which they lived and whether they were poor enough to qualify for services like free lunch. Then it examined graduation rates for the different admissions methods four years later. The Education Department said the analysis contained “major methodological issues,” but it did not dispute the findings.

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Kristen Lewis, one of the directors of Measure of America, said the data revealed, in essence, two separate public school systems operating in the city. There are some great options for the families best equipped to navigate the application process. But there are not enough good choices for everyone, so every year thousands of children, including some very good students, end up in mediocre high schools, or worse.

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“The average kid has to be able to get a good education, because most people are average,” Ms. Lewis said. “It’s great that the highfliers are succeeding, and they deserve the chance to succeed. But so do the average kids.”

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Feeders

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A common mantra among teachers, administrators and politicians is that a child’s ZIP code should not dictate the quality of his or her education. If the schools in a child’s neighborhood are failing, the system is supposed to let him or her attend a better school elsewhere.

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Jake Jacobs (May 09 2017 6:45AM) : HALF RIGHT: Teachers don't believe zip code should dictate the quality of education students receive BUT there is debate on the solution - why would we say students should "flee" to another school instead of improving their local school? more

Teachers I know support EQUITY across the system and would never repeat the mantra “trapped in failing schools” the mantra used by school privatizers and politicians.

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But in practice, children who grow up in neighborhoods with low-performing elementary schools tend to go to low-performing middle schools, then on to high schools with low graduation rates and even lower college-readiness rates.

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Students beginning their journey home from Pelham Gardens. The closest subway line is about a half-mile away, and those planning to attend Manhattan high schools will face significant travel time. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times


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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:15PM) : The students are determined. more

Dont matter the distance that they have to walk daily. The students still look pass the walking distance and do their best to attend school. This connects to me because in my old school i had to walk a pretty long distance however i didnt mind and still atteneded school everyday.

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Middle school choice generally revolves around the city’s community school districts. In some districts, children tend to go to their assigned neighborhood schools, while in others there is competition to get into middle schools that require good grades or entrance exams. There are a few programs open to high achievers from all over the city, or to children from a particular borough. Some districts have a greater number of top-performing middle schools than others.

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An analysis by the Center for New York City Affairs at the New School found that half of all students who got top scores on state tests came from just 45 middle schools out of more than 500. And 60 percent of students who went to specialized high schools came from those same 45 schools. None of those middle schools are in the Bronx.

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These feeder schools, like NYC Lab Middle School in the Chelsea section of Manhattan or the Marie Curie Middle School in Bayside, Queens, have several advantages over a place like Pelham Gardens. For one thing, many have competitive admissions themselves, so students come in with strong academic records, and the school’s job is to keep them advancing. At schools like Pelham, most new students arrive behind grade level. Teachers there have the more difficult task of helping students catch up.

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Last year, 146 seventh graders at Pelham Gardens took the state tests. On the English exam, 29 passed, which requires a score of at least 3 out of 4. Fifteen did that well in math. Only seven scored at least a 3 on both tests.

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This means that a majority of the children had no real chance of getting into the most selective schools, like Manhattan/Hunter Science High School or Townsend Harris High School in Queens, where students must have a 3 or higher on the tests. The high school directory lists 29 programs in the city that did not accept anyone with a score lower than 3 on the math exam.

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Townsend Harris High School, a selective school in Queens. The majority of Pelham Gardens students had no real chance of getting into the school last year for not having high enough state test scores. Credit Johnny Milano for The New York Times
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Advanced courses taught at many feeder schools also create an advantage. Laura Zingmond is a senior editor at the InsideSchools website, a project of the Center for New York City Affairs. Ms. Zingmond said that students from some middle schools had simply done more interesting work than their peers elsewhere.

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“It’s not even that their writing skills are better, but what they’re writing about is better,” Ms. Zingmond said. When it is time to apply to high school and create a portfolio, which is required in some cases, they “will just have a lot more they can pull from.”

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By contrast, Ms. Turbides, who helps middle schoolers apply to high school in eastern Brooklyn, said the opposite was often true.

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“We have teachers who have no idea they need to be holding on to students’ work, and they throw it out because they have no place to put it,” Ms. Turbides said. “So for a lot of these students, when it comes time to submit a portfolio, they have nothing to submit.”

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 2:43PM) : mistakes that teachers make more

This important because teachers have a habit of doing that thats why you make copies or make sure they dont throw it out this connects to me because a teacher did this to me and i end up failing his classes

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The Fair

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In the imposing Brooklyn Tech building, each of the city’s five boroughs had been given a floor or two, and the high schools had set up displays at slender tables. Students rushed from one to the next asking questions and printing their names on clipboards. Many tables were sheathed in school colors and littered with swag. There were branded pens, mints and lip balm. George Washington Carver High School, a school in Queens with a veterinary program, brought along a guinea pig called Mugsy, a turtle named Frankie and a rabbit who went by Marshmallow.

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“Ms. Bryant, this hallway is giving me a heart attack!” a Pelham Gardens student named Tabitha Gonzalez called out on one of the floors devoted to Manhattan schools. “There are so many schools I just don’t even know.”

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 2:42PM) : Not organized. more

This quote is important because it shows that schools work best if its only one single school in the building. This connects to me because when i was in my old school i had trouble getting through the halls and getting to my class on time. There were 4 schools and the halls would be packed.

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On the floor for Bronx schools, the halls were quieter, with fewer students exploring what they had to offer. Bronx schools find themselves on the wrong side of many important measures. They had the lowest graduation rate in the city last year, at just 65 percent. Of the students who should have graduated, more than one in 10 had dropped out.

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Kenya Fernandez (May 10 2017 2:35PM) : This Kids Look Ready To Learn & Into The Task more

This Kids Are Getting A Head Start On learning About Colleges, I Didnt Hear About It Till 8th Grade

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Angel Acosta, a college-readiness consultant, encouraging seventh graders at Pelham Gardens to start thinking about higher education early.

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:18PM) : This is important. more

When i was in 7th grade i didnt have anybody giving me information or motivating me to look into colleges. So i think that this is great for students because they are able to start looking at colleges early and getting motivated to keep going with their education. This connects to me because i wish that i had this type of assistance when i as as young as the students in the image above.

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Jonathan De La Mota (May 08 2017 4:42PM) : i agree
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Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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By noon, the hallways were stuffy, and two dozen Pelham Gardens students sat against the walls of an empty corridor, resting their legs.

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Jayda was among them, and though she had started the day aiming for Manhattan schools, she said that she had changed her mind. She preferred the schools on the fourth floor, the ones in the Bronx.

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“Manhattan schools didn’t explain themselves,” she said. “They would say their school was better, but never said how it was better.”

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She said her favorite school she saw that day was DeWitt Clinton, a large Bronx high school that was represented at the fair by a passionate principal. But DeWitt Clinton is in trouble. It is part of Renewal Schools, a city program for struggling schools, and only 48 percent of its students graduated last year.

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Making Choices

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By Ms. Bryant’s estimate, there are only about 15 high schools in the Bronx doing a consistently solid job. The rest have disappointing records, with too few students graduating and even those who earn diplomas not possessing the skills they need for college.

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But families at Pelham Gardens often choose schools in their home borough anyway. Getting to a school in Upper Manhattan, like the Manhattan Center for Science and Mathematics, a successful school in East Harlem, can take an hour. Plenty of parents do not want to sign up their 14-year-olds to leave the house before sunrise and spend three hours a day on the train.

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So they choose more local options, like Herbert H. Lehman High School, in the Westchester Square neighborhood of the Bronx, just two miles away from Pelham Gardens. But there, only 52 percent of students graduated last year. Ms. Bryant has warned Pelham Gardens students about the school, but 15 students have matched there.

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Derek Aponte (Jun 05 2017 3:07PM) : i cant help but notice how the students were mostly offered the opportunity of schools near low income areas more

this connects to me because i applied to many lower Manhattan school and did not get accepted into one

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“The options in the Bronx are very limited,” said Nathaniel Query, whose daughter, Emma, is an eighth grader at Pelham Gardens. She is an honor roll student with straight A’s, he said.

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“In Manhattan there are so many good choices, even if not specialized schools, just good schools,” Mr. Query said. “And Brooklyn and Queens are too far.”

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Sukanya Thompson was one of Pelham Gardens’ strongest students. A tall girl with colorful braces — green in the fall, red in the spring — she was born in Jamaica and came to the United States when she was 3. She hopes one day to be an obstetrician, and she had the grades and scores to apply to screened schools, like the Manhattan Center, which has a 96 percent graduation rate. But her mother is a nurse in the northern Bronx, and she wants to be able to attend parent-teacher conferences and other events at her daughter’s school.

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“I thought going to Manhattan would be cool, but she said no,” Sukanya said. “She said to put good Bronx schools at the top of the list and good Manhattan schools at the bottom.”

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Sukanya Thompson, a student at Pelham Gardens, described the selection process as a stressful puzzle. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times


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Despite her strong report cards and a confidence that she would do well, Sukanya still described the process as a stressful puzzle. She said she changed her list multiple times, cycling through her sixth version by early November.

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“When I move one thing on my list, the whole thing changes,” she said. “It’s like if you take out the middle section of a building, the whole thing will fall down.”

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In the spring, Sukanya was matched with her first choice, Eximius College Preparatory Academy in the Bronx, a limited unscreened school, which means all it requires is that applicants visit or sign in at a high school fair. When Sukanya was applying in the fall, the most recent graduation rate for the school was 86 percent. Those figures have since been updated, and the rate at Eximius has dipped to 81 percent.

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“I’m excited, it was my first choice,” she said. “I wish it could be higher,” she said of the graduation rate, “but it’s still O.K.”

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Experts on the process caution that a school’s admissions method is not necessarily an indicator of quality. There are limited unscreened schools that perform well, just as there are screened schools they would not recommend.

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Indeed, there is an enormous range among programs, even if they share an admissions model.

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Take screened schools. Some screened programs set their threshold for English or math grades at an 85 or higher, or require a 2.9 average on state tests. These most selective programs are in successful schools that are mostly white and Asian.

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:24PM) : Another reason for us to try harder. more

Many people judge hispanics and blacks because our graduation rate is lower than others. However charts like these only cause social issues because its putting a label on these students. This connects to me because being hispanic i dont like the fact that both hispanics and blacks are compared to other races due to the graduation rate. W try as hard as they do and we shouldnt be judged.


Another class of high schools also contributes to the sorting of students by race and class, schools that give preference to students living nearby.

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The best of these zoned programs are in white and Asian neighborhoods, and are effectively out of reach for black and Hispanic students. Zoned programs in black and Hispanic neighborhoods have low graduation rates.

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Over the course of three years, none of the children at Pelham Gardens have gotten into one of the city’s specialized high schools, even though Ms. Bryant encourages lots of students to take the test. Still, some students have gotten into very good programs. Ten students have matched at the Manhattan Center, and one has gone to the highly regarded Beacon.

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The average graduation rate for the schools to which students at Pelham Gardens were assigned was 72.3 percent, about the same as the city rate. Even so, almost 60 percent of the students matched at schools with below-average graduation rates, including schools where less than half of students graduate.

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Sean P. Corcoran, an associate professor of economics and education policy at New York University, has researched the choice process and how students match. He said that the best option is for students to reach for the best possible school for which they are qualified, and indeed, most students get one of their top choices. But in many cases, students reach either too low or too high.

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“I went into this many years ago thinking kids were uninformed and were just making bad choices, but it’s a lot more complicated than that,” Dr. Corcoran said. “People are trying to make good choices based on the obstacles that are there.”

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For Jayda, the process ended with an offer from Mott Haven Village Preparatory High School in the South Bronx, which was her sixth choice, she said. Last year, 59 percent of Mott Haven students graduated.

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“At first, I was really upset,” Jayda said. She thought about reapplying in the second round of admissions, but the only schools available would be those that did not fill up in the first round. “I thought about it and decided I didn’t want leftover schools.”

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At least, she said, it is in a different neighborhood.

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Students at Pelham Gardens generally use a side entrance to the building their school shares. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times


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Better Schools

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In the winter, after eighth graders had submitted their final applications, Ms. Bryant arranged for some of them to speak to the seventh grade about their experiences.

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“If I could do seventh grade over, I would change my whole mind-set,” said a girl from behind a pair of glasses. “My mind-set was: ‘Oh, this is middle school; it doesn’t mean nothing. My high school will depend on my eighth-grade grades, so I’ll do better then, but I’ll just slack now.’ If I could go back, I would change everything.”

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angie liranzo (May 08 2017 4:28PM) : This connects to me. more

This quote is important because this is something that every students say at some point in their life. This connects to me because i always say that if i can go back to freshmen year i would do everything different.

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Dennis Walcott, a schools chancellor during the Bloomberg administration who helped devise the choice system, said information allowed families “to be smart consumers,” and let students go to school anywhere in the city, even far from their own neighborhoods.

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“That flexibility was built into the system,” Mr. Walcott said, “and to me that’s how you move away from a segregated school environment and you open up the process.”

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The changes the Bloomberg administration made to the system have shown significant improvements. The four-year graduation rate has risen by more than 20 points, and the gap in graduation rates between white and black or Hispanic students has narrowed. But there remains a divide of 14 percentage points between whites and blacks, and 15 between whites and Hispanics.

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These improvements make real differences in the lives of students, but they leave plenty of room for children to fall through the cracks. And high schools remain exceedingly segregated. The isolation of black and Hispanic students in high schools is nearly as complete as in neighborhood school

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Josh Wallack, a deputy chancellor for strategy and policy in the Education Department, said that choice and market forces could not be left to mold the system on their own.

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Mr. Wallack said the de Blasio administration had tried to make information about high schools more accessible. In the fall, it started a mobile website called School Finder, which allows families to search the high school directory on their phones. It has also taken a range of steps to strengthen the school system over all, like expanding prekindergarten and offering more computer science and Advanced Placement courses. He described this as a holistic approach to improving all schools so that students were better prepared, no matter where they landed in high school.

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“Choice is a really important part of our system, but it’s not enough just to have choices,” Mr. Wallack said.

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“You have to have good systems and personal help in figuring out what the best fit is for you,” he continued. “We know different families need different kinds of help, and that is what we aim to provide.”

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 2:45PM) : A principle loving her job more

we need more principles more like her because they care about the students in the school based of the picture the students enjoy her as being a principle

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Denise Williams, the principal at Pelham Gardens, said it was too soon to judge how well the system had worked for her students, since only three classes had been matched with high schools so far. Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times


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Denise Williams, the sharp and energetic principal at Pelham Gardens, said it was too soon to judge how well the system had worked for her students, since only three classes had been matched with high schools so far.

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“I like the idea of choice, for students to have the opportunity to branch out from where they’re from,” she said. “On the flip side, it is a huge system. Any time you’re serving this many kids, the process itself is going to be challenging.”

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Many educators believe that some sort of preference should be created for low-income students, for example. That way, children whose parents do not have the ability to take them to open houses across the city are not competing so directly with those from families that can make the high school quest their mission. The city is experimenting with that idea now, allowing two Manhattan high schools with high graduation rates, Harvest Collegiate High School and Central Park East High School, to test that idea.

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In the meantime, Mr. Wallack said that “as a matter of practice,” the city was not adding any screened seats at this point, and that the number of those seats had fallen by about 675 since 2015. The city is not looking to expand limited unscreened seats, either, he said.

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Jayda, who wants to be a lawyer, had originally planned to attend a Manhattan high school with a legal focus. Instead she is headed to Mott Haven Village Preparatory High School in the South Bronx, her sixth choice, she said.

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Credit Christian Hansen for The New York Times

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But no matter how well the algorithm works or how much information families have, as long as there are low-performing schools, there will always be children assigned to attend them. And who are those children likely to be?

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“They do need to have a choice,” Ms. Bryant said from behind her desk. “But are the opportunities these kids have real opportunities?”

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She gave a gentle shrug. “They just need better schools.”

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Siree Barry (May 08 2017 2:31PM) : a comment a student made more

its important because students don’t understand its them or makes the school better or not just the school suppose to be better out of no where , i learned that on my own i realized we the students makes how the schools looks the reputation of the school is based on how we act

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Agustin Armendariz contributed research.

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A version of this article appears in print on May 7, 2017, on Page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: The Broken Promise of Choice In New York City High Schools.

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Natasia Shannon (Jun 01 2017 3:19PM) : the principal more

we definitely need more confidence for the student which the principal is dong. when i was younger nobody ever told me about college. it all be more better to have principals or even teachers to boost the students for a brighter future they can have.also to re state what i wrote in the paragraphs i definitely believe if a student want to travel far for their education then it should be cause at the end its their success

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