Most recent public comments by Julia Ertischek https://nowcomment.com/users/143940 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290406 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290406 how interesting would it be if the seeds turned out to be pear seeds and its a full circle. Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:30:01 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290405 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290405 Janie isn't very independent throughout the story; she quite literally puts her life in the hands of multiple men in hopes of a better life and never quite cares about her independence and identity in the matter. But when Tea Cake attacks her, this is the first point she has to take matters into her own hands to protect her life. Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:29:05 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290403 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290403 Arguably, hair in this story plays a more significant part in racial status than the color of the character's skin. Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:25:22 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290400 The incorporation of the title and the invocation that is brings up to the reader makes the whole storm feel like a divine intervention. The religious aspect of this storm, where there had been no rain for so long, and once there was a message that a storm of great magnitude was coming from an unexpected messager (the natives), no one believed it but a few. It gives the image of Noah's ark especially as those who forgone the warning must wait and pray to God. Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:22:24 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290398 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290398 Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:18:05 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290395 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290395 Tea Cake, a younger girl that is more carefree and youthful, and Janie, an older more who biracial and is rich. Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:15:44 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290390 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368826?scroll_to=3290390 Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:08:46 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286759 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286759 But now, Janie finally found her voice, and once she did, death came for Joe. Not that its related to his death but the stress and anger of knowing that Janie's voice was no longer under his control and was used against him is what further his death along. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 21:02:49 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286749 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286749 the scene with Daisy is kinda like Janie daydreaming about what could have been. Then all of sudden Joe ruined it all and shattered the dream. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:59:39 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286735 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286735 Even with the ridicule she receives from Joe, if she messes up just a little, Janie continues to do everything while it seems that Joe is the one exercising the privileges of mayorhood by not doing anything. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:56:23 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286726 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286726 Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:53:01 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286721 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286721 This is all by designed by Joe since he wants to appear bigger than life to the otherwise small world of this town. By having Janie be decked out in obsessive riches, he is essentially showing off his most valued treasure. It fits the time period of how husbands would show of their wealth through their wives. If their wives were dressed in the most fashionable clothes and donned the most expensive jewelry, they were able to show off their power and wealth. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:51:26 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286712 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286712 Talking about stores and post shops, they followed along. So in a way Joe is kinda appearing to take on the role of being a white savior with Janie helping establish this position due to her complexion and Joe keeping her looked away inside. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:47:07 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286700 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286700 I think the porches represent either traditional gender roles or a form of freedom. Janie isn't allowed on the porch, but she is allowed to look out upon them through the window you mentioned, Holden. The men are able to sit freely, discuss freely, and joke freely, while the women have to do all the work. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:44:05 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286694 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368827?scroll_to=3286694 a trophy wife who he can parade around and tell what to do. Janie fit the bill of being desperate and naive enough to go with him not realizing the obvious red flags of his controlling nature. This could partly be from her never knowing a difference - Logan was controlling, and Nanny was too. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 20:41:19 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284070 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284070 What struck me as interesting with this line is how it's similar to the class system in Latin America in the past. The introduction of this historicalish allusion within the story could show why Janie might feel isolate or maybe a reason why Tea Cake could feel unworthy of Janie. Even though none of the main characters acknowledge this racial pyramid, the one side character that blatantly does, reveals the subconsciousness of the other characters with how they feel about it. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:23:30 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284069 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284069 Wed, 10 Apr 2024 00:04:03 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284068 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284068 Joe's house is the central place because he was the mayor, a symbol of power and structure, whereas Tea Cake's house is because he issues fun and music that is all very contrasting to what Joe allowed. Wed, 10 Apr 2024 00:01:36 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284067 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284067 Tea Cakes whole role in the story is how he differs from Joe and what that means for Janie. With Joe she was caged, but with Tea Cakes she was free to work and talk and be herself. She even ended up liking to work and stopped the misconceptions that were originally placed on her that always followed her back at the old town. Tue, 09 Apr 2024 23:59:29 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284066 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284066 His justification for gambling the money is dependent on the idea that he is going to be able to earn it back even though theres no definite that he will. Although with this in mind, he was going to walk away once he earned the 200 back and did give it straight to Janie urging her to put it away in her account or the little pocket again. So with his gambling addictions, its not so bad that he cant separate himself away from the money Wed, 17 Apr 2024 22:51:32 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284064 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284064 One thing about Tea Cake is that he treats Janie as an equal. All his plans, he shares with her and wants her opinions. The 'we eat then talk' is better then simply ignoring his wrongs, Tea Cake wants to comfort Janie and tell her what is going on instead of pushing it aside like Joe did often Tue, 09 Apr 2024 23:54:34 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284063 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284063 This would be the first time that Janie was ever in a big town or outside of a set path (Logan's plot, or White House and Store) So to know that so much is out there and now that she is alone, it kinda seems like a panic attack as she doesn't want to end up like that other lady and also doesn't want to think about whether or not Tea Cake left her. Tue, 09 Apr 2024 23:51:59 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284062 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368832?scroll_to=3284062 Its odd to know that he steals Janie's money, didnt tell her and then proceeded to spend it all with the off chance that he can gain it all back like it never happens. Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:02:17 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276611 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276611 Janie is the sole person in the narrative who we know to have been situated on this 'porch'. To others, it seems like a dream where you have everything you want with little work, but to Janie, it's like a prison—a bird cage, if I may. If you give a bird a large enclosure, its large to you and only you. To the bird who might have known the Horizon as the wall of its cage the "large" enclosure is nothing more than a joke. The porch Janie is placed on by both her grandmother and Joe stems from two different perspectives. Her grandmother wanted the security and dream that this "large" enclosure would give Janie, not acknowledging that she was forcing Janie to give up her freedom. While Joe wanted to be able to look at Janie and know that she will always be there, also taking away her freedom. So to Pheoby, who has only seen this "large" enclosure from the outside, doesn't understand how stifling and suffocating this enclosure truly is. Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:50:25 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276596 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276596 it shows how she is more sceptical about intentions now, whether that stems from the age difference or the idea that hes in it for the money is very known but she's hesitant to enter into anything to protect herself from another sweet-talking Joe that ends up being .controlling. Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:42:25 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276589 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276589 Did this strike anyone else as odd? Him preparing a comb in the off chance that this would occur? Tue, 02 Apr 2024 20:14:21 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276586 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276586 Her smuggling Tea Cakes out and fishing with him at night seems like what children who are in love would do if they were avoiding their parents, in this case, the community. Kinda like a forbidden love that is filled with excitement and secrets. Tue, 02 Apr 2024 07:00:45 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276578 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276578 I think it shows just how much of an impact Joe's ridicule had on Janie. Later on, she doesn't even seem to look at herself in the mirror due to the comments that Joe made in the past about her age and her appearance. Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:35:15 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276568 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276568 The author is definitely painting the picture of how Tea Cakes is different by having Janie be able to do things she never could do with Joe. Tea Cakes does not appear to think little of women or have a more traditional mindset to where women should and shouldn't do, too. Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:33:09 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276562 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276562 For so long, Janie was tied down to other people - her grandmother, Logan, Joe - so when she is now on her own, it allows her to figure out what she actually wants for the first time. She's finding her identity that has for so long been tied to and molded into what other people wanted it to be. Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:29:26 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276554 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276554 Correct me if I am wrong, but it's been some time since Janie and Joe have shared a bed. The silence is only recognized because its the absence of more - lonesomeness. Janie was never technically truly alone with Joe, so the silence never actually was a presence she sought comfort from, but since now there's only her, truly on her, Janie searches for answers about where her life went wrong when the absence takes hold. Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:27:09 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276544 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368824?scroll_to=3276544 It's kind of ironic that the first event that Janie was allowed to attend was Joe's funeral. But at the same time, Janie is continuing to compose herself as this upright picture that Joe always held her to. So, in a way, even though she is free, Joe's presence is still forcing her to hide her inner self. Tue, 02 Apr 2024 19:16:54 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268881 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268881 Open doors often do symbolzie new beginnings where once you enter there's no looking back. Like the saying when one door closes another opens. Janie closes the oven's door, domestic life filled with boring, mundane aspects, to the open gates, where there's a wide empty road ahead. Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:42:15 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268877 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268877 Janie is still young at this point but is expected to manage a house. By asking if she still likes sweetness is kinda painting the picture of Joe Starks viewing her as a child again, which is a little disturbing since he's willing to marry her Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:39:35 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268874 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268874 so much of the beginning of her chapters starts with this feeling of emptiness and waiting for something. Since this is from Janie's perspective, one can assume that this is what Janie's whole life has been like, a sense of waiting for more. I bet once we meet Tea Cakes, the chapter beginnings are going to change. Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:36:40 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268869 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268869 Girls were married so young in the past in an attempt to prevent rape and allow them security, whether that be for their families or the girl themselves, is circumstantial. It's like girls always had a countdown over their heads before they were deemed ready to be wed off. Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:33:00 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268868 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268868 Race seems like such a downplayed part of the novel. It's not the central idea, and it's to the point where Janie herself doesn't even recognize it. I might be getting ahead of myself since what im about to cite is from farther into the story but the only person who seems inflicted with the racial tension was Janie's grandmother. She talks about race within her dialogue and how that influenced her actions greatly. While on the other head, the main character of this book, Janie, doesn't comment really at all over it. These are just some parallels I found, might be off the topic. Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:52:44 -0400 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268863 https://nowcomment.com/documents/368823?scroll_to=3268863 To add to your idea, porches showcase this balance of hospitality and separation. Janie sits on her back porch, away from eyes, to the point that Pheoby has to go in through the back like it's a secret. Nonetheless, Janie welcome her and they end up sitting comfortably with the breeze. I think the idea of porches showing relationships within the book is going to become more prevalent once we hear the stories with Janie's past husbands. Sun, 17 Mar 2024 23:22:19 -0400