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1/29/2020John Hattie's 10th Mindframe foritt'sLearnFinding-PeterCommonDeWGroundeek - Education W

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Education Week's blogs > Peter DeWitt's Finding Common Ground

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John Hattie's 10th Mindframe for Learning

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By Peter DeWitt on October 20, 2015 7:40 AM

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We all teach, lead and learn under different Mindframes. They envelope our personal lives as well as into our professional conversations. John Hattie, someone I have worked with for the last year and a half as a Visible Learning trainer, has written extensively about the nine Mindframes our students need for learning (click here for his guest blog when there were 7). Those Mindframes are equally as important for teachers and school leaders as well.

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Mrs. Angela Honeycutt Mrs. Angela Honeycutt (Feb 03 2020 10:35PM) : Teacher student relationships have an effect. more

I agree with the article that I am A Change Agent. This is the reason that I became a teacher. But yet, so many times we or I forget our purpose and our passion. We get so caught up in the day to day that we do not fully live up to our potential. We forget that we have an audience and that we can make a difference in their lives and their learning.

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Tammy thorp Tammy thorp (Feb 03 2020 10:28PM) : One data point does not give a clear picture of student knowledge.
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Teacher Deborah Piombino Teacher Deborah Piombino (Feb 03 2020 10:34PM) : I agree one data point does not accurately reflect a student's progress
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Dr. Elaine Harper Dr. Elaine Harper (Feb 05 2020 2:17PM) : We teach can teach from personal experiences that we have had in our lives.
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Last week, as some of us presented with Hattie on his jam-packed presentation tour across the U.S., he announced a 10th mindframe, which is easy to discuss but less easy to put into practice. First and foremost, Hattie believes that in order to maximize learning we need to make sure that we embody the following 9 mindframes:

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I am an evaluator -Evaluation isn't just about the formal evaluation that comes down from the state education department and district offices. As educators we all have to evaluate whether our practices are bringing out the best learning in our students. After all, in Hattie's words we have to "Know Thy Impact."

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Christina Levey _ Staff - WakefieldMS Christina Levey _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:28PM) : Evaluation more

Students can’t be evaluated just based on a test, but what they show us on a daily basis. If we focus on test scores, we miss the actual growth that is taking place.

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Dr. Elaine Harper Dr. Elaine Harper (Feb 05 2020 2:19PM) : Evaluation is a continuing process not just something done a at the end of the year.
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Angie Mills _ Staff - WakefieldMS Angie Mills _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:27PM) : What am I doing to bring out the best in my students?
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Kristen Pearce _ Staff - WakefieldMS Kristen Pearce _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:28PM) : We should always evaluate our effectiveness to see if our students are understanding what we are trying to teach them. If not, we need to try something different.
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R Krainik R Krainik (Feb 03 2020 10:29PM) : Day to Day more

This can be class to class, day to day. Much of what is seen here can/might show up differently within standards based assessments.

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I am a change agent - In these days of more accountability and more on the plates of teachers and leaders, it's easy to feel as though we are victims to our present educational situations. Hattie believes we have to change our mindsets to understanding we are change

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Meredith Furr _ Staff - WakefieldMS Meredith Furr _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:37PM) : Teachers are change agents. more

I agree that we are change agents but cannot have an impact on students if we are feeling overwhelmed and down about our career. I feel like teaching is so important in student’s lives. In some cases, we are the only change agents for them!

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Alyssa Gasperini _ Staff - WakefieldMS Alyssa Gasperini _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 05 2020 2:12PM) : I completely agree we need to make sure we are taking care of ourselves, so we can then give our best to our students!
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Dr. Elaine Harper Dr. Elaine Harper (Feb 05 2020 5:06PM) : As a counselor, being a change agent really resonates with me. I try to help students change their mindset despite the worldview they may have. It is important to emphasize that change can be difficult but productive.
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agents. This is important, because research shows that when teachers have a low level of efficacy they feel as though they don't have any impact on student learning, which doesn't put them in the role of change agent at all. It's important for leaders to establish a school climate that fosters an increased sense of teacher efficacy, so that they can build collective teacher efficacy as a staff, and help teachers realize they may be one of the only change agents in a child's life.

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Samantha Barlow _ Staff - WakefieldMS Samantha Barlow _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:34PM) : More learning, less being told how to teach more

I know that teachers need professional development to keep skills current. But, sometimes, I want less of that and more time to plan for the great learning. There never seems to be enough time to plan thoughtfully for the best or deepest learning while still getting all the other things done.

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Mr David Knecht Mr David Knecht (Feb 03 2020 10:34PM) : A bit of a responsibility.

I talk about learning and not about teaching - When we talk about teaching we are focusing on the adult in the room and very often forget about the students. The adult is important, but focusing on the student is more important. In the Politics of Distraction, Hattie wrote that school stakeholders, policymakers and politicians talk a great deal about the adult issues in school, such as unions, prep time and teacher evaluation, but not enough time discussing learning.

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Daniel Sichak _ Staff - WakefieldMS Daniel Sichak _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : Students are the learners with the focus on them as individuals as well as members of a group. How do they learn best as an individual and how can other students, as well as the teacher, help bridge what is to be learned with what is learned. [Edited]
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Beimnet Baissa Beimnet Baissa (Feb 03 2020 10:29PM) : It can be hard, but it's important to remember that our teaching doesn't matter if no one is learning.
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Anne Travis Anne Travis (Feb 03 2020 10:30PM) : This describes me because being in extended content every student comes in with different abilities that can range across the spectrum. It is not about me it is solely about reaching them at their learning point by all the means given to me
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Teacher Deborah Piombino Teacher Deborah Piombino (Feb 03 2020 10:35PM) : I could not have said it better!
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David Harris David Harris (Feb 05 2020 2:11PM) : Adults are important but students are more improtant more

Students are more important. They are the reason we are here as educators

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Kristin Ball _ Staff - WakefieldMS Kristin Ball _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:29PM) : Need more time to talk in PLTs about learning...how the students learn, scaffolding, ect. We use a lot of time, planning, looking at data and getting materials together. [Edited]
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Tammy thorp Tammy thorp (Feb 03 2020 10:30PM) : Education focuses more on teacher rather than learning.
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Mr David Knecht Mr David Knecht (Feb 03 2020 10:36PM) : "If mama ain't happy, baby ain't happy." If teachers are struggling due to their work environment obviously they can't deliver their best.

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I see assessment as feedback to me - Ward et al wrote that schools are awash with data but very often the data that we all have access to is not used at the depth that it could be because data has been used as a "gotcha" instead of a tool that could lead to deeper conversations. What sort of formative assessment (click here for this guest blog by Shirley Clarke) are we doing to make sure that what we are doing in the classroom is actually working?

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Mrs. Mallory Vaccaro Mrs. Mallory Vaccaro (Feb 03 2020 10:39PM) : I am looking forward to working with other teachers interpreting the data that we receive and how to respond to it.
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Kristen Pearce _ Staff - WakefieldMS Kristen Pearce _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:31PM) : We need to shift our mindsets to learn from data and adjust practices to help improve student learning data.
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I engage in dialogue and not monologue - In these days of 24/7 communication tools I wonder if we really listen to one another any better than we did before we had access to those tools? Do we engage in dialogue where we listen to the thoughts of the person on the other side of the conversation, or do we use the conversation to merely get our own self-interests across? In the classroom with students, do teachers listen to students or just lecture and talk at students without giving them enough time to debate and discuss?

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Christopher Watson _ Staff - WakefieldMS Christopher Watson _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:27PM) : Engage in Dialogue and not monologue more

Our curriculum puts an emphasis on student discussion and conversations. The teacher is more a facilitator than an instructor.

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India Williams _ Staff - WakefieldMS India Williams _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 05 2020 2:13PM) : Dialoguing with students validates their voice and encourages them to confidently participate in class.
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Laura Kellerman _ Staff - WakefieldMS Laura Kellerman _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 05 2020 2:17PM) : Yes, I find that I must keep moving along or I will fall behind in curriculum expectations. Technology seems to make everything move faster, but the irony is that we need to slow down in some areas if we truly want student learning to be the focus.
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Aaron Fussell _ Staff - WakefieldMS Aaron Fussell _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:35PM) : I find myself just wanting to move it along instead of listening to the student.
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Kristin Ball _ Staff - WakefieldMS Kristin Ball _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:31PM) : Love this, Hard with some units, but so easy with others to get students points of view and make them part of their learning.

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I enjoy challenge - Hattie believes we spend too much time giving students answers to questions that they struggle with in the classroom; instead of taking the opportunity to teach them that error is the best way to learn. It's through error that they dig deep within themselves. This will work better, if at a young age, we teach students that learning is not always easy, which is one of the greatest parts of it.

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Nathaniel Myers _ Staff - WakefieldMS Nathaniel Myers _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:28PM) : This right here. This paragraph resonates the most because it serves as the foundation for my teaching philosophy. I think the best way to learn is through experience and discovery. [Edited] more

This right here. This paragraph resonates the most because it serves as the foundation for my teaching philosophy. I think the best way to learn is through experience and discovery. Information sticks better when a student is able to personally come to the realization themselves of the answer. Productive struggle and encouraging failure is good because it’s more reflective of the real world. This is why I structure my courses around projects and design thinking, trying to encourage students to tap into creativity and increase their critical thinking skills.

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Assistant Principal Mary CiffoneBaker Assistant Principal Mary CiffoneBaker (Feb 03 2020 10:29PM) : Productive struggle is important and letting students know that it is ok to fail!!
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Mr David Knecht Mr David Knecht (Feb 03 2020 10:30PM) : Learning is not always easy, and that which is worthwhile rarely is.
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Gina DeBose _ Staff - WakefieldMS Gina DeBose _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : We don't often allow children to struggle. We are too quick to step in. It is the struggle that allows growth. more

I agree with this statement. Too often, students are willing to give up rather than persist on more challenging assignments. They need to feel free to make mistakes.

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And some have been taught that it is ok to give up, that we will save them, instead of letting them fail.

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Alyssa Gasperini _ Staff - WakefieldMS Alyssa Gasperini _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 05 2020 2:15PM) : The best way to do this is to model for students that it is okay to struggle and that this helps students learn that mistakes occur and its okay as this is a part of learning more

Often times students are SO afraid to make mistakes that they miss out on actually developing their own thoughts for fear of being wrong without ever knowing for certain if they were accurate or not.

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Nicole Vortherms _ Staff - WakefieldMS Nicole Vortherms _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 05 2020 9:48PM) : Productive struggle is major in our curriculum. It can be my first reaction to tell students how or why when they ask but it is so important to step back and have them find the how or why. It is so much more impactful when they discover the learning.
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Mrs. Suzanne Rurkowski Mrs. Suzanne Rurkowski (Feb 03 2020 10:29PM) : I value challenging not only myself but also my students. Students have proven that they connect with content better when they struggle at first.
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Angie Mills _ Staff - WakefieldMS Angie Mills _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:32PM) : This is easier said than done, especially when "grades" matter to the students, parents and district.
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Aaron Fussell _ Staff - WakefieldMS Aaron Fussell _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:32PM) : I am often too quick to respond instead of getting them to develop their thinking because I want to move on to the next step.
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Zachary Yoder _ Staff - WakefieldMS Zachary Yoder _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : Mistakes are instructive [Edited] more

I like to convey to students that they should view the errors/mistakes they make as learning opportunities. Whenever they take the time to examine their mistakes, students can often find that more impactful on learning than the questions they answer correctly.

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Brittany Foster _ Staff - WakefieldMS Brittany Foster _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : This resonates with me because in the age of instant access, students need to learn that the answer is not always right in front of them, but they need to work at it to get it. It's OK to make mistakes, as long as we learn from it.
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Erin Cooper Erin Cooper (Feb 03 2020 10:38PM) : Give students the opportunity to answer themselves. more

This can be difficult but really important for student learning.

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Struggle builds the learning relationship.

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I engage in positive relationships - In Hattie's work he has shown that teacher-student relationships have an effect size of .72 which is nearly double the hinge point (.40) he found through his research that offers a year's worth of growth for a year's input. Positive relationships, whether through teacher-student relationships, or the relationships students have with peers, can have an enormous benefit.

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Nathaniel Myers _ Staff - WakefieldMS Nathaniel Myers _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:29PM) : Students rarely remember what you teach them and more how you make them feel (not to say they aren't learning but the feeling you give them resonates more than the material, which can be learned/taught by almost anyone theoretically.
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Christine Cox _ Staff - WakefieldMS Christine Cox _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : Positive Relationships more

This I believe is the most important part of my work as a counselor, but also critical to any one working in a school. If I can make a student feel just a little more comfortable, a little more welcome, or a little more important, I believe he or she will have a reason to show up. Without a positive relationship, a student would never be invested in our work together and would negate the reason I am here!

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Catherine Delaney Catherine Delaney (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : This resonates with me at the most. If I can't connect with students in a positive relationship, they can't learn from me. Building relationships is key to a healthy learning environment. [Edited]
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Kirstie McCool Kirstie McCool (Feb 03 2020 10:35PM) : Positive Student Relationship more

I think having positive student relationships is an important foundation for being an effective teacher. Of course you, as the teacher know the content, and can explain it, but if you have a positive relationship with students this can be so impactful on student motivation!If students feel more comfortable in class, they will be more willing to learn and try, therefore will perform better.

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Dianne Lewis _ Staff - WakefieldMS Dianne Lewis _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:35PM) : :) more

Having a positive relationship with students allows the student to trust you as a teacher and trust themselves to believe that they can achieve anything they want to achieve! Also, if you have a positive relationship with a student they will feel more comfortable coming to you with anything they are struggling with.

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Mrs. Tamuri Basaldu Mrs. Tamuri Basaldu (Feb 03 2020 10:37PM) : Positive Relationships more

Building relationships is very important when trying to reach students that are not willing participates in their own learning. Unless they buy into the idea that you care about their well being they can be obstinate towards change.

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Douglas Curry _ Staff - WakefieldMS Douglas Curry _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 05 2020 2:17PM) : I believe that forming positive relationships is the most important part of teaching. These relationships need to balanced and formed in such a way that allow for a continual destruction and rebuilding of the dynamics of the relationship. more

There are two types of relationships that need to be made. One is a general relationship with the group and the other is a personal relationship with individual students.

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Coach Trever Schock Coach Trever Schock (Feb 03 2020 10:30PM) : Building positive relationships have a huge effect on students in your class and you come into contact with
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Teacher Heather Macsuga Teacher Heather Macsuga (Feb 03 2020 10:32PM) : Positive interactions with students beginning on the first day of school is the key to creating a strong rapport with students. It requires consistency but when kids think that you care, then it makes it easier to relate to them.
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Kelsie Stocz _ Staff - WakefieldMS Kelsie Stocz _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : Being a warm demander works best if you build a connection with the student and show the student that you can about them.
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Christine Resta _ Staff - WakefieldMS Christine Resta _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:34PM) : Relationships are so important. They help build trust.
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Beimnet Baissa Beimnet Baissa (Feb 03 2020 10:30PM) : Relationships are important. They are important, I think either way, but in school because they have a real academic impact. [Edited]
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Beimnet Baissa Beimnet Baissa (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : This is the one I resonate with the most. I want students to know that they're cared for, and that school is a safe place. more

This is the one I resonate with the most. I want students to know that they’re cared for, and that school is a safe place.

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Mr David Knecht Mr David Knecht (Feb 03 2020 10:31PM) : It helps if students like you.Duh
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Tammy thorp Tammy thorp (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : When we feel wanted and included, we all want to be present and engaged in that environment. PLT should focus on student engagement and participation in all aspects of the school-not just the classroom.
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Brian Kiesler _ Staff - WakefieldMS Brian Kiesler _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : I agree with this statement because I believe positive relationships are the foundation for a successful classroom setting. It's all about trust.
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Nicole Boriotti Nicole Boriotti (Feb 03 2020 10:33PM) : Establishing positive relationships students helps foster learning and also builds trust. Students will be more likely to endure a difficult learning opportunity if they have a positive relationship with the teacher and their peers.
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By building strong relationships, teachers are not only building trust, but they are building a bond to help students get through the struggle of learning and mastering.

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Haley Yow Haley Yow (Feb 05 2020 2:17PM) : I agree with this statement. Positive student/teacher relationships are needed

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I use the language of learning - The focus on learning is important, which is why we need to talk about it more than we talk about teaching. However, having common language around learning is the crucial next step. Schools that focus on learner dispositions and teach students how and when to use them can help change the mindset of school stakeholders.

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I see learning as hard work - All of the above Mindframes come together in this mindframe. Engaging in dialogue, diving deeply into assessment data, teaching students about learning dispositions, and becoming change agents is no easy task, which is why learning is hard work.

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Samantha Barlow _ Staff - WakefieldMS Samantha Barlow _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:43PM) : How do we make students aware of Mindframes? more

Students can’t use these mindframes unless they are aware of them. When and how can the students learn about them?

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The 10th mindframe that Hattie released last week is:

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I Collaborate - Hattie not only has 10 mindframes but within his research he found 150 influences on learning, which continues to grow. I collaborate is crucial to the influence that is near the top spot, which is collective teacher efficacy. We, as adults, teach students about the importance of collaboration, and team sports have hopefully been focusing on that issue as well. Unfortunately, adults still don't collaborate as grade levels and departments nearly as often as they should. It happens in pockets, but not always across schools.

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Mrs. Suzanne Rurkowski Mrs. Suzanne Rurkowski (Feb 03 2020 10:32PM) : I plan to work with my team to come up with a plan for future classes and units.
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In the End

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The Mindframes of learning are important, and I'm not just saying that because I am a Visible Learning trainer and work with John Hattie. Adults go to counselors and invest a great deal of time and energy into practices that will help them shift their Mindframes at home. We need to do the same for our Mindframes that we carry to work with us every day.

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Collaboration, which brings together diverse thinkers who engage in authentic conversation, can help shift our thinking which inspires us to grow as learners. It's why Twitter is so popular with educators because they find professional and personal learning networks which help them think outside the box. Imagine how much better it would be if we didn't always have to go to social networking for that and could find it within our own buildings as well.

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Kristen Pearce _ Staff - WakefieldMS Kristen Pearce _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:35PM) : Collaboration is so important. We should always be willing to help one another and branch off of one another's ideas.
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Anna Peck _ Staff - WakefieldMS Anna Peck _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:34PM) : Collaboration is important for all students and teachers. Students learn so much more from each other. more
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Daniel Sichak _ Staff - WakefieldMS Daniel Sichak _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:38PM) : Collaboration helps students learn from each other what they don't know and helps to reinforce what they do know.
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Communication Educational Leadership

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Tags: Cheryl Ward Collaboration

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Diane Lapp Douglas Fisher John Hattie

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Mindframes for Learning Nancy Frey

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Politics of Distraction Shirley Clarke

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Visible Learning

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blogs.edweekg/edweek/finding.or_common_ground/2015/10/hatties_10th_mindframe_for_learning.html?qs=Hattie&print=13/3

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Sharon Merante _ Staff - WakefieldMS Sharon Merante _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:42PM) : I collaborate is easier said than done for me. more

I know that collaborate is very useful but it is a learning curve for me due to the amount of noise in the classroom. I’m old school but I know that is where learning is going to prepare students for future jobs. I am trying differents strategies to incorporate collaboration into my lesson plans more.

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Sherry Adamson _ Staff - WakefieldMS Sherry Adamson _ Staff - WakefieldMS (Feb 03 2020 10:42PM) : Listening to comments from students and how they solve problems helps me to understand how they learn
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