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Apr 11

But now, Janie finally found her voice, and once she did, death came for Joe. Not that its related to his death but the stress and anger of knowing that Janie’s voice was no longer under his control and was used against him is what further his death along.

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Apr 11

Even with the ridicule she receives from Joe, if she messes up just a little, Janie continues to do everything while it seems that Joe is the one exercising the privileges of mayorhood by not doing anything.

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Apr 11

This is all by designed by Joe since he wants to appear bigger than life to the otherwise small world of this town. By having Janie be decked out in obsessive riches, he is essentially showing off his most valued treasure. It fits the time period of how husbands would show of their wealth through their wives. If their wives were dressed in the most fashionable clothes and donned the most expensive jewelry, they were able to show off their power and wealth.

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Apr 11

Talking about stores and post shops, they followed along. So in a way Joe is kinda appearing to take on the role of being a white savior with Janie helping establish this position due to her complexion and Joe keeping her looked away inside.

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Apr 11

I think the porches represent either traditional gender roles or a form of freedom. Janie isn’t allowed on the porch, but she is allowed to look out upon them through the window you mentioned, Holden. The men are able to sit freely, discuss freely, and joke freely, while the women have to do all the work.

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Apr 11

a trophy wife who he can parade around and tell what to do. Janie fit the bill of being desperate and naive enough to go with him not realizing the obvious red flags of his controlling nature. This could partly be from her never knowing a difference – Logan was controlling, and Nanny was too.

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Apr 11

This has a lot of biblical language such as altars and gods. She treats Janie like a god because he “looks more white” than herself. I think that it just shows that Janie experiences racism in not only white people, but people of the same race as well. Nanny warned her about slavery and racism, but this is the first in person racism in the book

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Apr 11

The fact that Tea Cake has the more control in the relationship. She isn’t coping with the fact that Tea Cake has all the control and she doesn’t. This makes her very insecure and very jealous of Nunkie. This shows that their relationship isn’t as strong as it looks like

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Apr 11

I think that it is very sweet that Tea Cake misses Janie all day that he can’t stand to work the whole day without her. Janie loves Tea Cake so much that she is willing to work by her own free will. She isn’t forced to do her husband’s work, she wants to do it. Both Tea Cake and Janie seem genuinely in love with each other.

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Apr 11

Tea Cake is different that Starks. He teaches Janie everything she needs to know to be independent. He is different because Joe didn’t even let Janie play chess. He yelled at her for making a mistake in the store. It seems like Tea Cake takes pride in Janie’s endeavors.

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Apr 11

Im just really surprised that in the end of all of this, Janie accepts Tea Cake’s apology. Its hard to think that she could just forgive and forget about the troubles he caused her. Even with all these gambling issues, Janie seems to be more in love with him and develops a deeper bond in the process. She is blinded by the thought of perfection that Tea Cake supposedly brings in her life.

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Apr 11

I feel like this line symbolizes Janies transition into a period of mourning after her husbands death. Instead of isolating herself, she becomes the center of attention, and I think that is so powerful. She has this ability to captivate people and draw them towards her, even in times of despair and loss.

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Apr 11

This quote shows just how deeply Tea Cake cares for Janie, despite their age difference. Tea cake proudly claims Janie as his wife, and he chooses to reject the idea that she could be mistaken for his daughter. This was an extremely powerful statement that challenges societal norms and expectations for marriage.

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Apr 11

This line holds great significance, and I feel like it reflects the idea that women have the power to choose exactly what memories to hold onto, and what memories to let go of. It speaks to the resilience and strength of women as they choose their own experiences.

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Apr 10

the fact that she flirted with him and he did not immediately drop kick her onto another plane of existence is a MASSIVE RED FLAG and may be indicative of a future problem.

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Apr 10

I agree, It seems that unlike the other men Janie has been with Tea Cake views her as an equal rather than “just a woman”

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Apr 10

While I agree that Tea Cake gambled for what he thought was a good reason, his want to “win it back” can show how he pays no attention to risk and might cause some problems later

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Apr 10

I do not really understand Tea Cake’s financial choices and it may be foreshadowing his character being wishy washy with janie just like he is with money

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Apr 10

I agree that Teacake could end up turning out bad because of his ability to just run away with the money without asking her

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Apr 10

I believe that the relationship seems to go too well too fast because Hurston is writing about the one relationship that seems to go well for Janie.

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Apr 10

This is actually so cute. Even though I’m a lil doubtful of Tea Cake their relationship is aborable and wholesome compared to Joe’s.

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Apr 10

I think it’s funny but interesting at the same time that she ‘asked like a woman’, to show that woman will hold onto things and keep grudges for longer.

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Apr 10

I did notice how important meals are to their relationship, as their early stages began with them catching and frying a fish, and I like how you pointed out it’s a symbol of their eequality.

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Apr 10

I might be reading into this too much, but I feel like these last three lines are foreshadowing something bad, like Tea Cake eventually doing something bad for money, or winning money from a person with nothing to spare.

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Apr 10

Now I’m honestly not on Tea Cake’s side. If he had went and got stuff for a better life, whatever. But he just went and blew the money off? I can’t believe no one else has commented on this because he’s literally giving Janie’s money that he stole out of her dress to random people just to stay out.

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Apr 10

I really like the style in this paragraph, from it switching as the narrator’s turn of events based on Janie’s perspective, to Janie’s exact thoughts and prayers. That’s why Hurston writing in the dialect is so meaningful, because this part easily could have been skipped over if not for the extreme difference in accent.

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Apr 10

This line feels out of place but I think it shows the nature of their relationship. It was very fast and rushed, and built entirely on affection. But just affection doesn’t guarantee a good relationship.

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Apr 10

Joe is called “The Little Emperor” and is stated to leave the county still in power which emphasizes the extent of his rule and power over the town when he was mayor and alludes to his role as "royalty’.

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Apr 10

This further pushes Joe’s effects on the community and how he characterized himself as essentially royalty in the town.

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Apr 10

What struck me as interesting with this line is how it’s similar to the class system in Latin America in the past. The introduction of this historicalish allusion within the story could show why Janie might feel isolate or maybe a reason why Tea Cake could feel unworthy of Janie. Even though none of the main characters acknowledge this racial pyramid, the one side character that blatantly does, reveals the subconsciousness of the other characters with how they feel about it.

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Apr 10

Joe’s house is the central place because he was the mayor, a symbol of power and structure, whereas Tea Cake’s house is because he issues fun and music that is all very contrasting to what Joe allowed.

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Apr 9

Tea Cakes whole role in the story is how he differs from Joe and what that means for Janie. With Joe she was caged, but with Tea Cakes she was free to work and talk and be herself. She even ended up liking to work and stopped the misconceptions that were originally placed on her that always followed her back at the old town.

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Apr 9

His justification for gambling the money is dependent on the idea that he is going to be able to earn it back even though theres no definite that he will. Although with this in mind, he was going to walk away once he earned the 200 back and did give it straight to Janie urging her to put it away in her account or the little pocket again. So with his gambling addictions, its not so bad that he cant separate himself away from the money

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Apr 9

Janie, however, seems more preoccupied with the character of a person’s purpose, as seen in her criticisms of Joe, her rejection of gossip shared by townsfolk, and her opinions on vanity and image — as further shaped by her own experience living under scrutiny for hers

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Apr 9

One thing about Tea Cake is that he treats Janie as an equal. All his plans, he shares with her and wants her opinions. The ‘we eat then talk’ is better then simply ignoring his wrongs, Tea Cake wants to comfort Janie and tell her what is going on instead of pushing it aside like Joe did often

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Apr 9

This would be the first time that Janie was ever in a big town or outside of a set path (Logan’s plot, or White House and Store) So to know that so much is out there and now that she is alone, it kinda seems like a panic attack as she doesn’t want to end up like that other lady and also doesn’t want to think about whether or not Tea Cake left her.

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Apr 9

Its odd to know that he steals Janie’s money, didnt tell her and then proceeded to spend it all with the off chance that he can gain it all back like it never happens.

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Apr 9

Tea Cake is giving her a spotlight, and wants to love her loudly and openly, with pride and assurance and a willingness to do and to act. As in contrast to Joe, he wishes for Janie to be seen and held up, and not for his own personal gain or image — from at least anything we’ve seen so far

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