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[1 of 5] Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood, Part I, Chapters 1-3, by Trevor Noah (2019)

Author: Trevor Noah

“Part 1, Chapters 1 - 3.” Born a Crime: Stories from a South African Childhood, by Trevor Noah, Spiegel & Grau, 2019.


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IMMORALITY ACT, 1927

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Elania H Elania H (Nov 10 2023 5:31PM) : This conversataion more

I never went to a white church I went to an all black church when I lived with my Aunt me and my sisters would go every weekend and we would pray and pray until our knees gave out and I really miss the vibes anf the people but mostly I miss that church .

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Breanna V Breanna V (Dec 21 2023 12:28PM) : Trevor still recalls what happened when his mother pushed him out of a moving car. He still remembers what led up to that point. That very morning, his mother's car wouldn't start so Trevor thought they could finally stay home for once and rest but nope. more

His mother had other plans. She made him take the bus with her. Hours went by and they were finally done with church, Trevor was ready to go home but the only problem was by the time they got out of church the buses weren’t going through that area anymore. They managed to flag a car and get in but soon a bus pulled in front of the car. The bus belonged to the Zulus. The zulu man was arguing with the driver so Trevor’s mother decided to just get on the bus. As they were driving the men were being rude and unsettling so Trevor’s mother did what she thought was right to protect her children. She pushed Trevor out and balled herself around here other son and jumped out.

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To prohibit illicit carnal intercourse between Europeans and natives and other acts in relation thereto.

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BE IT ENACTED by the King’s Most Excellent Majesty, the Senate and the House of Assembly of the Union of South Africa, as follows:—

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Sam O Sam O (Oct 27 2021 10:15PM) : It was smart of Noah to give the reason as to why the book was titled "Born a Crime" right at the beginning. Many authors either explain their title of the book way towards the end of the book, or never even mention it at all.
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Jaylyn B Jaylyn B (Oct 16 2023 10:40AM) : it was pretty smart because it was a crime to have him and his parents made that crime. more

i like how the mom is a powerful women that don’t give a shit about anything someone tells her

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terrell w terrell w (Nov 03 2023 11:19AM) : u more

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Paul A and/or Noah Simulator, the late-night comedy host and author of Born a Crime (Dec 07 2023 6:21PM) : Why did you want to explain it right at the beginning this way? more
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The title “Born a Crime” isn’t just a dramatic expression; it’s a literal truth about my existence. By starting with the harsh legal language of apartheid which outlawed my very birth – “BE IT ENACTED by the King’s Most Excellent Majesty, the Senate and the House of Assembly of the Union of South Africa, as follows” – one immediately grasps the gravity of the world I entered into. This sets the tone for the entire memoir, ensuring the reader understands that my personal story is inseparable from South Africa’s history of institutionalized racism. It’s critical to establish why the title “Born a Crime” is so deeply meaningful; it’s the foundation upon which my life and this book are built.

How much further should we delve into the consequences of that law for me and my mother? Maybe you’re curious about how the crime of my birth shaped my childhood? Or perhaps you’d like to explore how these beginnings influenced my sense of humor? Is there another aspect of this you want to know more about?

Please Note: Everything in this comment is AI-generated. It is made up to sound like me.

For a deeper dive into the complexities of my story, I warmly invite you to engage with my 2016 conversation with Terry Gross on her NPR program, FRESH AIR. Revel in our exchange, let your thoughts be known, and mine the depths of “Born a Crime.” You can find it here: https://nowcomment.com/documents/363568

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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 25 2022 12:56PM) : Was there a King of South Africa?
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AKUMANI S AKUMANI S (May 04 2022 12:48PM) : he was a hero
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  1. Any European male who has illicit carnal intercourse with a native female, and any native male who has illicit carnal intercourse with a European female…shall be guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to imprisonment for a period not exceeding five years.
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    Keily M Keily M (Nov 19 2020 10:47AM) : I found this unfair their shouldn't be a crime.
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    Jessica H Jessica H (Nov 19 2020 10:51AM) : This was the law in our own country up to about 50 years ago.
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    Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 11 2021 9:23AM) : I agree people should have the right to date anyone they want I find this unfair
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    Jaelynn B Jaelynn B (Oct 13 2023 5:58PM) : Dating someone of another color should never be an issue. more

    I would not want to live in South Africa during the apartheid with this crazy law. I am glad I was born here in the USA in 2008 where anybody can date who they want regardless of color. i wonder what they did to gay people.

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    Samuel R Samuel R (Oct 15 2023 11:45AM) : @Jaelynn you make a strong point and ask an important question. As you pointed out in 2008 dating out of your race is much more acceptable in the USA. But 50 years ago and even in some areas today dating out of your race is not accepted. more

    As for Gay people, today in South Africa gay people are allowed to marry and actually, South Africa has more liberal LGBTQ laws than we have in the USA.

    But you are right to infer that during the Apartheid period, the laws were very harsh against gay people.

    Homosexuality was illegal in South Africa during apartheid. The Immorality Act of 1957 and the subsequent amendments criminalized same-sex sexual activity, and individuals could face imprisonment for engaging in homosexual acts.

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    The text seems to refer to the regime of racial segregation and discrimination, known as Apartheid, that took place in South Africa from 1948 until the early 1990s. These laws, such as the Immorality Act of 1957, represented institutionalized racism and were aimed at preventing interracial relationships. The text mentioned also describes the penalties that were associated with violating these discriminatory laws.

    This connects to contemporary issues centered around race, gender and sexual orientation. While Apartheid ended in South Africa in 1994, and the country has since established one of the most progressive constitutions in the world with respect to human rights, many societies still struggle with forms of discrimination. LGBTQ rights in many parts of the world are still limited and sexual activity between same-sex partners can still, unfortunately, be penalized.

    In the USA, same-sex marriage become legal nationwide in a 2015 Supreme Court ruling. However, LGBTQ rights are still a hotly debated topic, with issues such as discrimination in employment, housing, and services, as well as transgender rights, at the forefront. So, while significant steps have been made in terms of LGBTQ rights in both South Africa and the USA, there remains a great deal of work to be done in achieving true equality.

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    Desiree H Desiree H (Feb 09 2021 9:52AM) : I agree, luckily some laws have changed. [Edited]
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    Zaveen C Zaveen C (Oct 17 2023 11:38AM) : <3 more

    Right.

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    Raymond P Raymond P (Feb 09 2021 2:41PM) : But imaged if that never changed and it stayed that way more

    I agree but times have changed and I’m glad

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    Iajanay O Iajanay O (Feb 09 2021 4:59PM) : i agree because if it din't change the same thing still would be going on right now
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    Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 09 2021 9:29PM) : Continuity and Change more

    There is this saying that goes, the more things change the more they stay the same. Do you think this staying rings true in both South African and the USA?

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    Melody C Melody C (Feb 09 2021 5:51PM) : I agree too because if this was still going on the world would have a lot of crazy things happening and I wouldn´t want that so I feel the same way you do too.
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    Ahmir R Ahmir R (Feb 09 2021 5:41PM) : It's sad to know people were treated in such a way years ago, were lucky to be living in this day and age. [Edited]
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    kyla h kyla h (Mar 08 2021 9:17AM) : right
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    Evan N Evan N (Oct 29 2021 1:26PM) : People more

    True, but there is still a lot of progress to be done

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    Anissa E Anissa E (Feb 09 2021 8:09PM) : Anissa elahi more

    i agree .

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    Ariyanna S Ariyanna S (Feb 10 2021 10:51AM) : exactly
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    Connor M Connor M (Oct 29 2021 1:31PM) : Agree more

    I agree with you

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    Katerin L Katerin L (Dec 17 2020 12:09PM) : theme response more

    he talks about the challenges of being born a mix child was like during apartheid in south Africa.

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    Semaj W Semaj W (Dec 18 2020 9:52AM) : I agree with this because he talks about how he has different treatment with his mother not knowing how to beat him and treat him. [Edited]
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    Ahmir R Ahmir R (Feb 09 2021 5:43PM) : Isn't it sad how he couldn't even hold his mothers had if the authorities were around?
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    Jaelynn B Jaelynn B (Oct 13 2023 6:01PM) : When your a kid you want to hold your mom"s hand. This is probably still affecting him today having to be seperated from his mom in public.
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    Aight, check this out, homie. You gotta stop for a minute and understand how this author be flexin’ with the language, right? This ain’t no ordinary level of relaxed chat; it’s a high-class type of stuff, dig?

    Firstly, when the author say, "Any European male who has illicit carnal intercourse…shall be guilty of an offence,” bro is usin’ what I call ‘fancy formal talk’ to show an official rule or law. That overly formal vocabulary kinda make the whole situation feel more serious, you know? That ain’t no accident, fam. The writer wants us to know what’s at stake here.

    But it ain’t all lawyer-type speak, feel me? Peep this next part where he switches it up: “When you’re a kid you want to hold your mom’s hand.” Now, that’s some real talk right there. Just plain, everyday words that anyone can relate to. Check how he puts you right in the kid’s shoes, makes you feel what he’s feelin’. That’s some clever flipping of the switch, right there.

    Now, I could spit more knowledge at you about the language in this paragraph, but ain’t nothin’ like the real deal. Imma need you to read it again. But listen, don’t read that joint like it’s just some ol’ English homework. Roll those words around in your head. Try to taste ‘em, smell ’em, feel ’em. That’s how you get submerged in the words, ya dig?

    Now, when you run through it again, see how this li’l scenario hits home for you. Think ‘bout what it means when you’re readin’. Ain’t always easy to sit back and chill when you’re readin’ words that make you feel a certain way. Notice that, and be real with what it means for you. Holla back at me when you’re done and let’s chop it up on this.

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    Melody C Melody C (Feb 09 2021 6:13PM) : very true I agree with you because he share a sad experience with his mom open and it was deeply sad he is very open.
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    Aubrey W Aubrey W (Dec 17 2020 12:24PM) : You see that they treat the men and woman alike and not differently
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    Demetrius C Demetrius C (Dec 18 2020 9:57AM) : I agree with this, They give Men more years than a woman. On the context of gender roles, they seem to be more violent on men than woman.
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    Jada M Jada M (Dec 18 2020 10:07AM) : i agree, in other places men and women are treated way differently.
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    Ahmir R Ahmir R (Feb 09 2021 5:45PM) : Very true, many other places allow men to d more than woman but woman can do the same exact thing and some woman could possibly do it better.
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    Adrian G Adrian G (Dec 17 2020 1:34PM) : Compare and contrast [Edited] more

    I never knew that people of different race who had a child would be a law.Now we can loved who ever in any place.Trevor had to hide who were his parents.Now we can show who are our parents to anyone.

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    Long H Long H (Dec 18 2020 10:06AM) : Agreeing more

    Mate, I agree with you because I never knew that there a law about people of a different race who had a child would be a problem. So that why the other kids were scared of him.

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    Aniyah M Aniyah M (Dec 18 2020 9:57AM) : i agree with when they treat man and women the same because in different places they dont
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    Iajanay O Iajanay O (Feb 09 2021 4:52PM) : This was the law in our own country up to about 50 years ago. REPLy
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    Anissa E Anissa E (Feb 09 2021 8:07PM) : Anissa Elahi more

    sometimes in big hollywood movies they’ll have these crazy chase scenes where somebody jump or gets thrown from a moving car .

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    Ariyanna S Ariyanna S (Feb 10 2021 10:58AM) : i dont agree with his mom throwing him out a car wether it was for reason or not
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    Ariyanna S Ariyanna S (Feb 10 2021 12:50PM) : i take back my comment on the car situation
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    Yojannis M Yojannis M (Feb 18 2021 5:59PM) : its sad how people really used to live and and its good that history changed alil bit
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    Nasir A Nasir A (Feb 19 2021 10:53AM) : Laws more

    It was the law in countries and that was about 50 years ago.

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    Meaghan M Meaghan M (Oct 26 2021 2:19PM) : It's crazy to think people could think this way. This is clearly discrimination.
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    Zaveen C Zaveen C (Oct 17 2023 11:40AM) : <3 more

    exactly.

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    Brianna V Brianna V (Oct 28 2021 10:35PM) : This is such a horrible law. I understand why Trevor added this in the beginning because in chapter 2 he mentions how his parents broke this law
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    brooklyn w brooklyn w (Oct 29 2021 1:33PM) : its disappointing to hear and know that people were treated with the highest disregard for respect. Extremely fortunate to be alive in a more progressive period
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    Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 3:39PM) : interracial couples were prohibited and you would be imprisoned
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    Lily T Lily T (Dec 13 2021 1:30PM) : I think that it was important for the author to include this, as to ensure that the reader had an understanding of the law from the beginning. It also forces the reader to think about these laws; including these laws invokes reflection.
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    Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 25 2022 1:04PM) : i see it as fair because why will you have intercourse outside marriage.
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    Laure N Laure N (Oct 05 2022 1:21PM) : Born A Crime is really a nice title for the because he felt like he and his people were born a crime because they were always treated like prisoners.
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    Gianna f Gianna f (Oct 18 2023 10:17AM) : why did men get accused of being guilty?did they ever prove o them that they was innocent?
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    Tiyanna H Tiyanna H (Nov 06 2023 2:04PM) : i feel like you should be aloud to date anyone in the world you want as long as they give you consent.
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    Tiyanna H Tiyanna H (Nov 06 2023 2:07PM) : i like how NOah explains in the beginning of the book how he was born a crime which was because his mom and dad weren't aloud to date because it was against the law.
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  1. Any native female who permits any European male to have illicit carnal intercourse with her and any European female who permits any native male to have illicit carnal intercourse with her shall be guilty of an offence and liable on conviction to imprisonment for a period not exceeding four years….
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    Keily M Keily M (Nov 19 2020 10:50AM) : Now i see the rules goes for both way females and males but i still stick with that shouldn't matter.
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    Ijanay B Ijanay B (Dec 18 2020 11:01AM) : I agree more

    because it shouldn’t matter if the person is black or white it just matters that you love them. and mixed children should not be illegal at all.

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    Mariam A Mariam A (Oct 29 2021 11:24PM) : It makes no sense how laws like this could get passed, being in prison for being an International couple ? Just doing everything to create a segregation of races
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    Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 12:54PM) : This is charge like a gun crime ? This was not so long ago and its disgusting
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The genius of apartheid was convincing people who were the overwhelming majority to turn on each other. Apart hate, is what it was. You separate people into groups and make them hate one another so you can run them all.

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Keily M Keily M (Nov 19 2020 11:06AM) : I see this as a way of power.
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Jessica H Jessica H (Nov 19 2020 11:12AM) : Divide and conquer more

If you make sure people are fighting each other, they are distracted from fighting you. That’s what segregation in the USA was about, too.

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Isaiah B Isaiah B (Dec 17 2020 10:34AM) : Theme Respones [Edited] more

Back then women couldn’t make there own decisions they would just stay in there houses all day and work from there.

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Do Abdur W Do Abdur W (Dec 18 2020 10:00AM) : Gender roles more

This is true. Especially when they talk about Trevor’s mom and how she breaks that norm.

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Phillip C Phillip C (Dec 17 2020 1:30PM) : race more

the africans are all put in racial groups

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Christian M Christian M (Feb 08 2021 8:18PM) : not only Africans put White people were also put into their own separate group.
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Dasani D Dasani D (Feb 10 2021 11:15AM) : this a way of power.
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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 14 2021 12:52PM) : this is a way of power more

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brooklyn w brooklyn w (Oct 29 2021 1:34PM) : It upsets me to know that womens suffrage was so alive then and continues now. Changing ideals needs to be more normalized
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Jessenia C Jessenia C (Apr 27 2022 12:55PM) : why fight against each other ?
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Jessenia C Jessenia C (Apr 27 2022 12:55PM) : It doesnt make no sense to fight when you are not getting anything
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Jocelyn W Jocelyn W (Oct 16 2023 2:29PM) : I like how Noah starts out strong with a reason on why back then south Africa was falling apart.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 25 2022 1:15PM) : why will they convince people to turn each other in.
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Chisom U Chisom U (Dec 17 2020 1:41PM) : Compare/contrast more

The meaning of apartheid is very similar to segregation in America. The text I highlighted summarizes the meaning of segregation and apartheid. The only difference to me is the different countries both these laws can be found in

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Niazia C Niazia C (Feb 11 2021 12:03PM) : i agree to this good thing laws changed
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Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 3:42PM) : even though apartheid was terrible, he calls it genius (even though he disagrees)

At the time, black South Africans outnumbered white South Africans nearly five to one, yet we were divided into different tribes with different languages: Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, Sotho, Venda, Ndebele, Tsonga, Pedi, and more. Long before apartheid existed these tribal factions clashed and warred with one another. Then white rule used that animosity to divide and conquer. All nonwhites were systematically classified into various groups and subgroups. Then these groups were given differing levels of rights and privileges in order to keep them at odds.

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Katerin L Katerin L (Dec 17 2020 12:06PM) : compare/contrast In the U.S we still this problem where whites are treated better then any other race. [Edited] more

In the U.S we still this problem where whites are treated better then any other race.

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Christian M Christian M (Feb 08 2021 8:20PM) : true just wish the system was not so corrupted and certain people weren't so prejudice.
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Niazia C Niazia C (Feb 11 2021 12:04PM) : i agree if the system was different thing would be happening differently
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Melody C Melody C (Feb 09 2021 5:58PM) : I agree with you most white are still being treated better then any other race including how the white police shot innocent black folks.
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 20 2022 11:43AM) : Those are facts, and not just here in the U.S, other countries too like, England or Spain.
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Hope I Hope I (Dec 17 2020 12:14PM) : Compare and contrast more

There is still racial problems today. White were treated more equally and had higher rights than blacks.

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Nehiemiah C Nehiemiah C (Dec 17 2020 12:22PM) : compare and contrast more

I agree because black people don’t have a lot of right today in the USA and I feel that they don’t want to fix that problem.

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Melody C Melody C (Feb 09 2021 6:15PM) : I agree with you because to this day a lot of innocent black people are still being treated differently and is being harmed.
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Semaj W Semaj W (Dec 18 2020 9:53AM) : agree
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Aliya U Aliya U (Dec 18 2020 10:57AM) : compare and contrast more

I agree black people are not treated right in the USA today

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Sianni S Sianni S (Feb 10 2021 9:54AM) : This still impacts blacks today. more

This is exactly what happened in America during slavery times. And it still very much effects how we are viewed and how we view ourselves.

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Penelope D Penelope D (Oct 27 2021 4:28PM) : This still rings true in the world today, people get so blinded by their opinions and their groups that they go against everyone else because they are the "other"
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Jocelyn W Jocelyn W (Oct 17 2023 11:37AM) : I like how noah explain what south Africa is really going through and how it's program especially back then
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Joan C Joan C (Oct 29 2020 10:50AM) : why were they divided in different tribes ?
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 29 2020 11:00AM) : They were different cultural groups, with different languages and customs. [Edited] more

Kind of like Indian tribes here in the Americas.

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Jaden A Jaden A (Dec 18 2020 11:04AM) : Why they are divided. more

They are all divided into different tribes to tell the difference between everyone. Every tribe is different in many ways. Like people have different types of culture with tribes.

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kyla h kyla h (Mar 08 2021 9:34AM) : right
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Amir w Amir w (Dec 17 2020 10:19AM) : Theme response more

This part of the text goes with race the best it showing how blacks and whites had to be divided

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Amir w Amir w (Dec 17 2020 10:22AM) : Compare/contrast more

When i look at the text it gives me slavery vibes because slaves out numbered the whites but since they didnt know what they could do. so they just divided the slaves up to different plantations

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Nehiemiah C Nehiemiah C (Dec 17 2020 12:04PM) : Comparison/contrast response: [Edited] more

they have different languages in the USA. the problem is now you have so many that it good to learn the different languages that they have.

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Kameron M Kameron M (Dec 17 2020 1:45PM) : Compare & Contrast. more

This part of the text makes think slavery sort of. They divided the colored people up , even though they were out numbered. This also shows how blacks and white and even other blacks had to be divided.

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Natalie C Natalie C (Feb 09 2021 9:38AM) : There were different kind of tribes
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Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 3:42PM) : separation into tribes=segregation?
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 25 2022 1:21PM) : How were the black south Africans divided into different tribes.
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Mamadou S Mamadou S (Apr 26 2022 12:57PM) : theres white south africans?
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Jaelynn B Jaelynn B (Oct 13 2023 6:08PM) : The white people were and still are in the majority in South Africa. They also had alot of white people from Germany and other parts of Europe who didnt agree with the apartheid thats why they socialized with the black women.
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Samuel R Samuel R (Oct 15 2023 11:33AM) : @Jaelyn, Were White People the majority in South Africa? [Edited]
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Jessica H Jessica H (Apr 27 2022 12:54PM) : Why where they fighting they should be one
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 12:59PM) : The goverment used these strategies and nowadays we just run with them . Its sad how we let a neighborhood define who we are or let a language separate us when we are all the same against them .
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Angel G Angel G (May 04 2022 12:40PM) : Im guessing that those languages are some type of african languages.
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Jocelyn W Jocelyn W (Oct 16 2023 2:32PM) : I like how he compared what he said to south Africa.
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Haryyah B Haryyah B (Oct 18 2023 6:38PM) : why they are divided from each other more

They all were divided into different tribes to tell the difference with everyone’s color. Also with the lanuages that they speak… the black south africans out numbered the whites because with the lanuages that they speak with the others so they could understand each other.

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The division of black South Africans into different tribes with various languages is a complex historical issue influenced by pre-colonial ethnic distinctions and colonial strategies. These divisions predate European colonization; indigenous communities had their own separate identities, languages, and cultural practices. When colonizers arrived, they encountered a mosaic of distinct groups, rather than a homogenous population. Moreover, through a ‘divide and rule’ strategy, colonial and later apartheid regimes emphasized and manipulated these differences to maintain control.

To understand this division’s importance, it’s crucial to consider its role in political control, cultural differentiation, and social segmentation, which contributed to the long-term disenfranchisement of black South Africans. Language and tribal identity became tools for segregation and labor exploitation, symbolized in the homeland system under apartheid, which geographically and politically isolated ethnic groups from each other and from power.

So, to sharpen the focus: why were black South Africans divided by the apartheid regime? How did these divisions impact cooperation against apartheid? And what effect did these divisions have on post-apartheid nation-building? Which of these angles would you like to explore further, or is there another aspect of this multifaceted issue that piques your curiosity? Let’s dig deeper and uncover the layers beneath this historical stratification. Shall we begin this intellectual excavation?

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Haryyah B Haryyah B (Nov 02 2023 12:49PM) : About how africa were divided into more

My thoughts on this is why? Do they still be able to see each other and they do speak different lanuages when it comes to there tribes.

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Haryyah B Haryyah B (Nov 13 2023 10:53AM) : they got divided in to different tribes with different languages and people more

they probably only got divided because it was to many of them and to they probably got divided into the tribes that all speak the same language.

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Janaya C Janaya C (Nov 13 2023 10:58AM) : They were divided from there languages and the people that they love more

They were all divided into different tribes to tell the differences between everybody and there culture , because it’s different cultures with there tribes.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Oct 29 2020 11:15AM) : what does he do what his purpose his purpose he puts his head down and fights
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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 10 2020 10:53AM) : lears the rules in order to break them properly
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Kendall T Kendall T (Dec 17 2020 10:22AM) : How Trevor Noah got through this life with people always fighting until one overcomes or until both are equal more

It´s crazy how before apartheid existed there were tribal factions clashing so Trevor Noah´s entire life was revolving around 2 groups fighting until one overcomes or until both are equal

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Aissata T Aissata T (Dec 18 2020 9:59AM) : I agree more

I agree because people in Africa were already fighting and now they can’t do anything about what happened.

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Carmen B Carmen B (Dec 18 2020 10:06AM) : I agree more

I agree too because it’s said how African people have are struggling and other people complain about little issues they have.

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Ariyanna S Ariyanna S (Feb 10 2021 10:53AM) : what was the point in seperating people rather be together its better that way
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 25 2022 1:33PM) : most white always treat minorities badly.
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Eleazal M Eleazal M (Nov 10 2023 9:41PM) : They were pretty smart about what they were doing because they knew it was a crime to have him more

I like how his mother did anything to keep him safe, but I also didn’t like how he had to suffer as a young kid not knowing why his mother was acting like she didn’t know him at some point.

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Keily M Keily M (Dec 01 2020 10:28AM) : Opinion more

All whites always has feel superior than non-whites.

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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 25 2022 1:35PM) : what is systematically classified?
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Jessica H Jessica H (Apr 25 2022 2:57PM) : It means: organized according to a specific method
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Natalie C Natalie C (Feb 09 2021 9:41AM) : The different group had different opportunity
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Connor M Connor M (Oct 29 2021 1:32PM) : Opportunity more

Some groups have different opponents than others and these opportunities can be unfair.

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Imani W Imani W (Oct 17 2023 11:48AM) : the different groups have the less opportunity or more opportunity [Edited]

Perhaps the starkest of these divisions was between South Africa’s two dominant groups, the Zulu and the Xhosa. The Zulu man is known as the warrior. He is proud. He puts his head down and fights. When the colonial armies invaded, the Zulu charged into battle with nothing but spears and shields against men with guns. The Zulu were slaughtered by the thousands, but they never stopped fighting. The Xhosa, on the other hand, pride themselves on being the thinkers. My mother is Xhosa. Nelson Mandela was Xhosa. The Xhosa waged a long war against the white man as well, but after experiencing the futility of battle against a better-armed foe, many Xhosa chiefs took a more nimble approach. “These white people are here whether we like it or not,” they said. “Let’s see what tools they possess that can be useful to us. Instead of being resistant to English, let’s learn English. We’ll understand what the white man is saying, and we can force him to negotiate with us.”

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Christian R Christian R (Oct 20 2020 11:20AM) : South African Dominants groups. more

What i think what these groups are is tribes which different people have different purposes. As an example the Zulu man is know as the warrior. What does he do what’s his purpose? His purpose he puts his head down and fights.

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Christian R Christian R (Oct 21 2020 10:43AM) : South africans coming to realization. [Edited] more

The South Africans realized that they had nothing but spears and shields against men with guns. So they realized that it would be better for them to learn the “white mans” language so the South Africans can force the “white mans” to negotiate with them.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 21 2020 10:50AM) : The Dalai Lama says, “learn the rules in order to break them properly”.
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Keily M Keily M (Dec 01 2020 10:38AM) : Summary more

The Zulu’s are warrior’s and the the Xhosa were more like thinkers and a line that stood out for me , that shows that were thinkers is…… " “These white people are here whether we like it or not,” they said. “Let’s see what tools they possess that can be useful to us. Instead of being resistant to English, let’s learn English. We’ll understand what the white man is saying, and we can force him to negotiate with us.”

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Paul A (Dec 01 2020 10:51AM) : Which are you more like -- a Zulu or a Xhosa?
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Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 3:44PM) : chief is willing to compromise (something white people couldn't do)
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:23AM) : These are the only groups I knew about for a long time; I didn’t know about the other cultural groups in South Africa until much later.
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Lily V Lily V (Oct 26 2021 11:31AM) : Syntax more

The author chooses to make this sentence short, this breaks up the rhythm in the reading and emphasizes the important characteristic that the Zulu man is proud

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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 10 2020 11:02AM) : instead of being resistant to English, let’s learn English
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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 10 2020 10:48AM) : connections [Edited] more

what he trying to say is that he dont like scary movie that they make in hollywood movie scenes / i feels the same way because i dont like scary movies

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:38PM) : that's very brave to do
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 27 2022 1:36PM) : why they didn't stop fighting?
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Samani G Samani G (Oct 19 2023 6:32PM) : Xhosa meaning more

(?) On page 10, the word Xhosa is a weird word. What is the meaning of it? Is that like a religious word that people say?

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Samuel R Samuel R (Oct 20 2023 11:48AM) : It is a Language spoken by many people in South Africa...
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:39PM) : this could be helpful to gain rights and show power

The Zulu went to war with the white man. The Xhosa played chess with the white man. For a long time neither was particularly successful, and each blamed the other for a problem neither had created. Bitterness festered. For decades those feelings were held in check by a common enemy. Then apartheid fell, Mandela walked free, and black South Africa went to war with itself.

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Charles W Charles W (Oct 29 2021 12:43AM) : Introduction more

Author does a great job at signifying the importance of this event and gives a dramatic beginning to the story.

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Jessenia C Jessenia C (Apr 27 2022 12:58PM) : see theres a point right there why fight when does giving back
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saniya f saniya f (Feb 09 2021 9:57PM) : I thought the white people didn't like them
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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 10 2021 8:15AM) : figurative language more

do you think Noah, means that Xhosa actually played chess with white men. Or is he saying the the Xhosa tribe played the white man thinking game instead of fighting with fist, they fought with mental tools.

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Araxan O Araxan O (Nov 04 2021 12:21PM) : Choice [Edited] more

This is an effective dichotomy of the two groups that reminds me of the Sparta vs Athens relationship.

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Mohammed A Mohammed A (Apr 27 2022 1:38PM) : why both tribes dislike themselves
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Lily V Lily V (Oct 26 2021 2:35PM) : Choice more

The author chooses to say bitterness, because it wasn’t to the point of anger/violence but it was resentment that was festering.

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Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 3:47PM) : even after apartheid fell, things were still bad in South Africa
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Claire P Claire P (Oct 27 2021 4:10PM) : Great Introduction more

This sentence alone gives an extremely long, deep history lesson while drawing the reader in through the simplicity of what they said. The entire introduction seems like a story that will have an ending, but the lack of closure in this final sentence allows for Noah to hook the reader.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:08PM) : Xhosa had a point learning from the white man and forcing them to give up . Sadly sometimes experiences can lead to a society full of hate based on history . Once apon a time you disrespected us so we forever disrespecting yours . Hate grow forgenerations

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Lily T Lily T (Dec 13 2021 1:32PM) : RUN provides a summary of what Trevor's childhood was like and gives a look into what he was exposed to culturally. This mostly focuses on church and the beliefs that he grew up with.
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Sometimes in big Hollywood movies they’ll have these crazy chase scenes where somebody jumps or gets thrown from a moving car. The person hits the ground and rolls for a bit. Then they come to a stop and pop up and dust themselves off, like it was no big deal. Whenever I see that I think, That’s rubbish. Getting thrown out of a moving car hurts way worse than that.

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Dasani D Dasani D (Feb 10 2021 11:22AM) : right like they know that hurt.
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 2:35AM) : exciting hook - makes reader want to know details of getting thrown out of a car
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Imani W Imani W (Oct 19 2023 2:14PM) : why did his mom throw him out a moving car did she have a good reason.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 18 2020 10:33AM) : The white man was quite stern with the native.
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saniya f saniya f (Feb 09 2021 10:25PM) : Right!
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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 9:45AM) : Interesting and Personal Connection more

I think this is very interesting because I see the same thing in big Hollywood movies, so I think we have a personal connection. I also think that is interesting because that makes the movie more exciting.

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Sam O Sam O (Oct 27 2021 10:17PM) : Noah uses an interesting hook to get the readers instantly invested in the story.
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 09 2022 1:23PM) : You got to be crazy to throw a kid out of a moving car.

I was nine years old when my mother threw me out of a moving car. It happened on a Sunday. I know it was on a Sunday because we were coming home from church, and every Sunday in my childhood meant church. We never missed church. My mother was—and still is—a deeply religious woman. Very Christian. Like indigenous peoples around the world, black South Africans adopted the religion of our colonizers. By “adopt” I mean it was forced on us. The white man was quite stern with the native. “You need to pray to Jesus,” he said. “Jesus will save you.” To which the native replied, “Well, we do need to be saved—saved from you, but that’s beside the point. So let’s give this Jesus thing a shot.”

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Keily M Keily M (Dec 01 2020 10:52AM) : Opinion more

What kind of mother would throw her son to a moving car and specially if shes religious.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Dec 01 2020 10:54AM) : Keep reading. It will make sense.
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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:02PM) : l\ more

ik right that’s crazy

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Ryan S Ryan S (Dec 17 2020 10:24AM) : I feel like this can have a big toll on you at a young age for this to happen.Trevor was thrown out a car at 9 years old but later on in the story in makes sense.
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Kendall T Kendall T (Dec 17 2020 10:32AM) : I really labeled his mother as a bad person to later realize she saved his life, it doesn´t matter if, in the end, you wind up with a few bruises, as long as he is alive. more

I agree, when you don´t explain why he was thrown out of the car then it looks like his mother was a terrible person when she really saved his life.

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Ryan S Ryan S (Dec 18 2020 9:58AM) : Mother more

I realize i should of went into more detail about his mom. But his mom later on in the story is showed to be a great mother with facts to back that up at times

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Jhamir B Jhamir B (Dec 18 2020 10:00AM) : I agree because the statement my mom threw me out of a bus is very misleading without the details
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Jaelynn B Jaelynn B (Oct 13 2023 6:11PM) : Yes it makes sense why he was thrown out of the bus, but this definetley affected him through his life.
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Aniyah M Aniyah M (Dec 17 2020 10:41AM) : i can compare to this more

i can compare to this because the some movies. when the person gets thrown or jumps out the car they get right back up but actually in real life you it hurts. i once saw it happen and it the person didnt get right back up they needed help

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Katerin L Katerin L (Dec 18 2020 10:59AM) : theme more

To me this shows how dangerous it is to be a mixed child and how much danger it brings to the family. Even worse being from a different tribe.

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Tyairra G Tyairra G (Dec 18 2020 11:08AM) : annotation more

I agree because Trevor did explain how it was dangerous for him and his family with him being mixed

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Jessenia C Jessenia C (Apr 27 2022 12:59PM) : why sin when there is alot of problems ?
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Samani G Samani G (Oct 19 2023 6:25PM) : Jesus more

(!)On page 6 where it says “ You need to pray to Jesus” I’ve heard that many times in my life by my Grandma and Random people but mostly elders. Sometimes people say that when someone is having a rough day and they want to just say that to maybe make the person feel better because he’s the only one that can help you make your day go smoother or better than before.

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Jalen R Jalen R (Dec 17 2020 1:20PM) : This should be considered as abuse. [Edited] more

This should be considered as abuse. He was only 9 years old. What makes it worst is they were acting like this was a normal thing that happened down there.

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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 08 2021 3:22PM) : But was she protecting him or abusing him?
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Jaelynn B Jaelynn B (Oct 13 2023 6:13PM) : I think she was protecting him but they all could have died from jumping. But, she believed they would have died if they stayed on the bus.
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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 9:44AM) : Makes me wonder. more

This makes me wonder a lot in the book. So this is very interesting. When I have questions about a book that makes me more interested in it.

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Aniya F Aniya F (Feb 11 2021 2:06AM) : I was nine years old when my mother threw me out of a moving car. more

why is she abusing him instead of caring for him like a mother should

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Aniya F Aniya F (Feb 11 2021 2:07AM) : I was nine years old when my mother threw me out of a moving car. more

confused on why she treating him like that’s not her child but also interested because its making the book seem interesting to me

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Claire P Claire P (Oct 27 2021 4:09PM) : Voice and Simplicity more

This line alone compels the reader to continue on. The nonchalant voice of what he is saying further intrigues the reader to dive deeper into what Noah is writing about.

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Yan C Yan C (Oct 29 2021 1:26PM) : A great sentence that connects to the previous paragraph and introduces this new paragraph. Because the author was actually thrown out of a car, so he knew how bad it hurts.
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:41PM) : that's cruel, how someone can do that to their own son
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (Apr 28 2022 1:00PM) : Threw him out of a moving car?? Crazy Lady OMG
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Angel G Angel G (May 24 2022 12:33PM) : he must have had a hard life growing up with his mother
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Aniya F Aniya F (Feb 11 2021 2:09AM) : ? more

is she really gods child even tho she go to church but doing bad things like abusing her child

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 9:47AM) : This sentence makes the story more interesting more

This sentence makes the story more interesting because it makes me wonder if he is a Christian.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:19PM) : I feel a personal connection. more

I feel a personal connection because my mom is a Christian and religious woman too.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 25 2022 1:30PM) : his mom was a very religious person
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Maya R Maya R (Oct 29 2021 1:28PM) : Evidence to the oppression going on. Many indigenous groups and minorities religions that are affiliated with their culture is from a colonizer forcing it upon them.
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (Apr 28 2022 1:01PM) : Like everywhere else sadly 🥹
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Christian R Christian R (Oct 21 2020 11:09AM) : Natives had a god? [Edited] more

The white men wanted to introduce jesus into the natives but the natives never knew what this religion was about.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 29 2020 12:11PM) : Most pre-colonial cultural groups were POLYTHEISTIC more

Meaning that they had multiple gods and goddesses – of the air, the water, sun, moon, fire, etc.

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Jalen R Jalen R (Dec 17 2020 1:25PM) : It didn't make sense more

Yeah it didn’t make sense how they wanted to introduce a whole new religion or just Jesus if they didn’t know anything about Him.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:21PM) : Good conclusion but what if the natives did want Jesus introduced to them...

My whole family is religious, but where my mother was Team Jesus all the way, my grandmother balanced her Christian faith with the traditional Xhosa beliefs she’d grown up with, communicating with the spirits of our ancestors. For a long time I didn’t understand why so many black people had abandoned their indigenous faith for Christianity. But the more we went to church and the longer I sat in those pews the more I learned about how Christianity works: If you’re Native American and you pray to the wolves, you’re a savage. If you’re African and you pray to your ancestors, you’re a primitive. But when white people pray to a guy who turns water into wine, well, that’s just common sense.

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Joan C Joan C (Nov 04 2020 10:46AM) : his family was very religious
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Paul A (Nov 12 2020 10:49AM) : Right, and how do you feel about that? Is that similar to your family? What impact do you think this has on Trevor's character as a person?
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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:22PM) : Yes, they were, but do feel a personal connection with his family? Why or Why not?
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Keily M Keily M (Dec 01 2020 11:11AM) : Opinion more

I feel like is a good thing that his family were religious and took him to church because he has learn multiple things.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 09 2020 11:00AM) : he chased his father around the playground
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Samiyah C Samiyah C (Dec 17 2020 1:35PM) : Comparison/contrast response more

This reminds me of the united states because even if people do have the same religion, some people go about it differently according to their lifestyle, or whatever they like personally. For example, if somebody’s christian, they might be really strict when it comes to smoking and drinking. However, when it might come to somebody else they might be more lenient when it comes to it.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 21 2020 10:46AM) : summary more

he say that black people abandoned their indigenous faith for Christianity.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:16PM) : Stuff like this sometimes makes me question my faith because this was a thing force to our ancestors. I believe in jesus but what if thats not his name and the way we learned from him is just a make up . more
We cant believe everything that comes out the hands of people who was wrong about mostly everything for years and all have to be burning in hell today for being racist criminals

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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 09 2020 11:03AM) : his family was very religious and faith for christianity
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Marisa D Marisa D (Oct 29 2021 11:21AM) : This references a bigger idea, in this case its if you're not Christian then you're a savage which is somewhat of a foreshadowing to being white in a America verses being a person of color.
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 2:39AM) : short little jokes like "So let's give this Jesus thing a shot" in the last paragraph and about Christianity make the passages intriguing to read, show that Trevor Noah is funny

My childhood involved church, or some form of church, at least four nights a week. Tuesday night was the prayer meeting. Wednesday night was Bible study. Thursday night was Youth church. Friday and Saturday we had off. (Time to sin!) Then on Sunday we went to church. Three churches, to be precise. The reason we went to three churches was because my mom said each church gave her something different. The first church offered jubilant praise of the Lord. The second church offered deep analysis of the scripture, which my mom loved. The third church offered passion and catharsis; it was a place where you truly felt the presence of the Holy Spirit inside you. Completely by coincidence, as we moved back and forth

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Jordan K Jordan K (Dec 17 2020 10:05AM) : Reader Response [Edited] more

I cannot go to church at least four times a week. My limit is two days. I can go on Wednesday for bible study and Sunday for the service.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:28PM) : I can relate. more

I can relate that the more I go to church the more I learn about Christianity. The bible contains a lot of knowledge. I also can relate because I am a Christian.

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Ashanti T Ashanti T (Feb 09 2021 9:55AM) : I can somewhat relate to this more

I can somewhat relate to you because I sometime go to church. But I have went to church in a while and when I went to church and it was often then I learned a lot about Jesus. And I found out that the bible does have a lot of knowledges.

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Keily M Keily M (Mar 18 2021 11:01AM) : Opinion more

His childhood was a bit frustrating in my opinion no disrespect to no religions or culture, but i can tell he barely had time for himself. Having to be in church almost everyday and bible study.

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Christian R Christian R (Oct 29 2020 6:18PM) : Punctuality more

their family was very religious and attended church consistently which many people doesn’t do.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:24PM) : Yes, and that is a good thing to have such a strong connection with god.
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Jada M Jada M (Dec 17 2020 10:42AM) : his family is very religious and he persistently attended church during his childhood. [Edited]
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Phillip C Phillip C (Dec 17 2020 1:38PM) : church more

kids had to be really involved in church

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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 05 2022 1:00PM) : why is Africans into too much western life
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Angel G Angel G (May 24 2022 12:35PM) : i wonder how church was for him
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Keily M Keily M (Dec 01 2020 11:21AM) : opinion more

i found this very funny and clever of him :)

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saniya f saniya f (Feb 09 2021 10:30PM) : My cousin use to tell me stories about going to church almost everyday.
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Keily M Keily M (Mar 18 2021 10:53AM) : Opinion more

I found this funny and not okay at the same time. I understand what’s his trying to say but the way it was said sounded a little disrespectful.

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Nehiemiah C Nehiemiah C (Dec 17 2020 12:10PM) : Theme response religion, [Edited] more

they went to church because of your fate in God like how people go to church now. it show that religion is in any part of the world.

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Jada M Jada M (Dec 17 2020 11:15AM) : they attended multiple churches which shows how interested they are into their religion. [Edited]
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Dominique J Dominique J (Oct 18 2023 10:18AM) : I think they went to three different churches because they all offered different things.
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DaShaun H DaShaun H (Dec 17 2020 10:18AM) : I feel the same way how different churches have a different feeling to them.
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Demetrius C Demetrius C (Dec 17 2020 10:22AM) : Trevor's mom is so interested in a religion that she went to multiple churches instead of one. It is interesting to me because my grandma seemed to always be with god. [Edited] Tags: compare & contrast
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Ijanay B Ijanay B (Dec 17 2020 12:10PM) : compare and contrast more

when Trevor said he goes to three different churches I understood that. my mom tries to go to different churches and tries to listen to different preachers preach because she says they all say different things. she says they all have different meanings and preach different things.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 21 2020 10:53AM) : connection more

when Trevor said he goes to three different churches I understood that.

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between these churches, I noticed that each one had its own distinct racial makeup: Jubilant church was mixed church. Analytical church was white church. And passionate, cathartic church, that was black church.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:30AM) : Religion and culture are so closely intertwined.
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 2:41AM) : hints at conflicts of identity with Church analogy - balancing of multiple racial identities
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 2:43AM) : even titles like "black church", "white church" and "mixed church" reinforce the story's connection to race
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Marisa D Marisa D (Oct 29 2021 11:23AM) : each church brought something different into his mothers life and you can see the difference in what it brought her in correlation to the community to she was around
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Mixed church was Rhema Bible Church. Rhema was one of those huge, supermodern, suburban megachurches. The pastor, Ray McCauley, was an ex-bodybuilder with a big smile and the personality of a cheerleader. Pastor Ray had competed in the 1974 Mr. Universe competition. He placed third. The winner that year was Arnold Schwarzenegger. Every week, Ray would be up onstage working really hard to make Jesus cool. There was arena-style seating and a rock band jamming out with the latest Christian contemporary pop. Everyone sang along, and if you didn’t know the words that was okay because they were all right up there on the Jumbotron for you. It was Christian karaoke, basically. I always had a blast at mixed church.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 18 2020 10:35AM) : he say that In Sunday school we got to read cool stories.
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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 10:38AM) : wow he placed third this dude was a big deal!! [Edited]
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Antonio S Antonio S (Nov 06 2023 2:03PM) : Thats actually impressive
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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 10:40AM) : i love that he is trying to make jesus look good to people who doesn't acknowledge it. [Edited]
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Melody C Melody C (Feb 09 2021 6:05PM) : true
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Keily M Keily M (Mar 18 2021 11:04AM) : i agree
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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:17PM) : Imagery more

The way he describes the church allows the reader to picture it as if they had attended. Throughout the story the author uses imagery to make the reader feel involved.

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White church was Rosebank Union in Sandton, a very white and wealthy part of Johannesburg. I loved white church because I didn’t actually have to go to the main service. My mom would go to that, and I would go to the youth side, to Sunday school. In Sunday school we got to read cool stories. Noah and the flood was obviously a favorite; I had a personal stake there. But I also loved the stories about Moses parting the Red Sea, David slaying Goliath, Jesus whipping the money changers in the temple.

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Nasira C Nasira C (Dec 17 2020 9:14AM) : Compare/contrast [Edited] more

I don’t go to church every week like they do. I only go to church like a couple times a month. But this year I haven’t been going at all.

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Keily M Keily M (Mar 23 2021 9:34AM) : comment more

This sounds fun! i love the fact that he enjoyed every part of church time.

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Jessenia C Jessenia C (Apr 27 2022 12:01PM) : its better to have everything together and youll better
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Elania H Elania H (Nov 10 2023 11:38AM) : The main idea in my conversation was talking about My aunt's favorite Church . more

Growing up I never went to a White Church I went to an all black church because I used to live with my aunt and every Saturday and Sunday I went to her favorite church with my older sister and my little sister and we would pray and pray to our knees gave out I miss that church so much because the vibes in there were amazing I miss the people and over all the church.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:33AM) : This was the best part of Sunday school for me, too. I wish everyone had to learn Bible stories because they are actually folklore, and you need to know them to understand other literature. [Edited] more

You don’t have to ascribe to or believe in Catholicism or Christianity to appreciate the stories.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 18 2020 10:44AM) : some Sundays we’d double back to white church for a special evening service.
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (Apr 28 2022 1:05PM) : Lmao those are my favorite too

I grew up in a home with very little exposure to popular culture. Boyz II Men were not allowed in my mother’s house. Songs about some guy grinding on a girl all night long? No, no, no. That was forbidden. I’d hear the other kids at school singing “End of the Road,” and I’d have no clue what was going on. I knew of these Boyz II Men, but I didn’t really know who they were. The only music I knew was from church: soaring, uplifting songs praising Jesus. It was the same with movies. My mom didn’t want my mind polluted by movies with sex and violence. So the Bible was my action movie. Samson was my superhero. He was my He-Man. A guy beating a thousand people to death with the jawbone of a donkey? That’s pretty badass. Eventually you get to Paul writing letters to the Ephesians and it loses the plot, but the Old Testament and the Gospels? I could quote you anything from those pages, chapter and verse. There were Bible games and quizzes every week at white church, and I kicked everyone’s ass.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 04 2020 9:41AM) : It seems like his life revolved around Jesus
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Santee S Santee S (Dec 17 2020 12:24PM) : Theme response-Religion more

Trevor’s mom is a very into religion, she doesn’t make Trevor listen to any violent music because she doesn’t want it to change him. This basically go on through the whole text she blame thinks on religion if something doesn’t go as plan she say god wanted it to happen. She likes bringing him church yo show him religion is a great part of life.

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Katerin L Katerin L (Dec 17 2020 11:24AM) : reader response more

i relate to this because i was also raised in a christian family.

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Dasani D Dasani D (Feb 10 2021 10:29AM) : it seemed like he was raised in a christian family everything was god.
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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 14 2021 12:02PM) : . more

I can see that his family was very religious

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Charles W Charles W (Oct 28 2021 11:46PM) : Choice more

Author portrays his personal experiences within his home and expresses his disconnect with pop culture.

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Ijanay B Ijanay B (Dec 17 2020 12:14PM) : readers response more

for me, this is totally different. I grew up listening to RnB and hip hop music. I think that is the reason why I like listening to music because I grew up to it.

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Hope I Hope I (Dec 18 2020 11:03AM) : I agree with this more

I agree with this because I also grew up listening to R&B. My mom didn’t like me listening to songs unless I knew the meaning, so I can relate to what Ijanay is saying.

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Keily M Keily M (Mar 23 2021 10:37AM) : I agree more

I also agree with this too because i also grew up listening to R&B and keep listening til this day.

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Phillip C Phillip C (Dec 17 2020 1:49PM) : wealth more

it was hard for them to get money

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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 10:46AM) : religion more

wealth played a part but I think his mother was also very reserved and thought popular culture was unhealthy. She “didn’t want my mind polluted by movies with sex and violence”

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:34PM) : My Opinion about his mother./ I can relate [Edited] more

I can tell that his mother was strict but not too strict, she just didn’t want nun of that in her house due to what she believed in and her religion. I also can relate because my mom doesn’t allow that in her house due to her religion too.

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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 14 2021 1:00PM) : Facts
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Samani G Samani G (Oct 19 2023 6:29PM) : relate more
  • On page 7 I find it interesting that the mom doesn’t allow boys and men in her house. I kinda respect that because what do you need them in your house for? It’s just her, her son, and her husband.
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Antonio S Antonio S (Nov 06 2023 2:04PM) : Respect for the mother for doing this, no other men should be in the house unless its family
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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 11 2021 10:47AM) : summary more

i agree with this because he talk about how they treat the men and women alike and not differently

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Tiyanna H Tiyanna H (Nov 06 2023 2:12PM) : my grandma only allows this kind of music in her house because she thinks rap or anything else other than gospel is the devils music trying to take over young kids minds
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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 21 2020 10:55AM) : summary more
This formed Trevor’s mind to make church movies, music, and books his everything.
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Jessica H Jessica H (Dec 21 2020 11:03AM) : Good connection!
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Keily M Keily M (Mar 23 2021 10:42AM) : Agree and disagree more

As a mother i understand she just wanted the best for him but she’s kinda making everything like movies, music and books. I think she’s being a little to harsh.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 25 2022 1:33PM) : his mom made sure to raise him through church things
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:45PM) : she was trying to protect him keeping the reality away from him
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Lily V Lily V (Oct 26 2021 2:39PM) : Choice more

Author chooses to use comparison here. He wants to emphasize that the Bible was his entertainment like how an action movie is other peoples entertainment

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Marisa D Marisa D (Oct 29 2021 11:24AM) : this is a good way to express that he wasn't angry so much about having to read the Bible instead he created it and formed it into something he understood in relation to pop culture
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (Apr 28 2022 1:09PM) : And my friend lol, not but for real my best friend's nickname it's Samson
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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 10 2020 11:19AM) : summary more

“Black church” were struggling because it wasn’t like the “White Church” where they have a good budget. Interesting"

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Then there was black church. There was always some kind of black church service going on somewhere, and we tried them all. In the township, that typically meant an outdoor, tent-revival-style church. We usually went to my grandmother’s church, an old-school Methodist congregation, five hundred African grannies in blue-and-white blouses, clutching their Bibles and patiently burning in the hot African sun. Black church was rough, I won’t lie. No air-conditioning. No lyrics up on Jumbotrons. And it lasted forever, three or four hours at least, which confused me because white church was only like an hour—in and out, thanks for coming. But at black church I would sit there for what felt like an eternity, trying to figure out why time moved so slowly. Is it possible for time to actually stop? If so, why does it stop at black church and not at white church? I eventually decided black people needed more time with Jesus because we suffered more. “I’m here to fill up on my blessings for the week,” my mother used to say. The more time we spent at church, she reckoned, the more blessings we accrued, like a Starbucks Rewards Card.

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Kendall T Kendall T (Dec 18 2020 9:56AM) : Trevor's mother tried to make church Trevor's everything more

Trevor’s mother only wanted Trevor to listen to church music. Trevor looked at Boyz ll Men as if all the music they wrote was about grinding on girls and very inappropriate. This formed Trevor’s mind to make church movies, music, and books his everything.

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Jamere B Jamere B (Dec 18 2020 10:07AM) : His mother wanted shape his life with religion more

I agree it seemed as though she wanted to use Christianity to shape his life.

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Carmen B Carmen B (Dec 18 2020 9:58AM) : Compare/Contrast more

I have similar experiences now like this with church. My uncle is the pastor of the church I go to and he plans to leave early every time. But if you say something to spark an idea or give him a red bull we’ll be there all day.

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Izirahh B Izirahh B (Oct 13 2023 9:26AM) : I agree..."Black Church" can take a long time but it is worth the wait because you can have an amazing experience that you could only get during "black church"
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Samuel R Samuel R (Oct 15 2023 11:47AM) : @Izi.. I guess I have to say Amen to your comment :)
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Tiylor S Tiylor S (Dec 17 2020 1:52PM) : Church more

This shows that they did not have much . And they had to work with what they had . But they were still greatful .

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 2:42PM) : Yes, I agree. They were grateful and worked for a lot.
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Nasira C Nasira C (Dec 17 2020 10:21AM) : Reader response [Edited] more

I like how they talk about their religion. And that they go to their grandmother’s church. This shows how close Trevor and his grandma is.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 11 2021 11:00AM) : summary more
I agree that just because he was mixed it made it hard for him to fit in
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Jhamir B Jhamir B (Dec 18 2020 10:02AM) : Theme Response more

This shows how budgeted “Black church” was compared to “White Church”

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Christian T Christian T (Dec 18 2020 10:06AM) : i agree the church seems like it dosent get many donations
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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 10:52AM) : "Black church" were struggling because it wasn't like the "White Church" where they have a good budget. Interesting
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Christian T Christian T (Dec 18 2020 10:07AM) : I agree the white church gets more donations than the black church
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 25 2022 1:34PM) : black church was much longer compared to white church
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Keily M Keily M (Mar 23 2021 11:00AM) : opinion more

I understand exactly what he means, i went through a similar with my family where some had different religions and they church hours lasted different hours.

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Marisa D Marisa D (Oct 29 2021 11:28AM) : noah is saying that he needs Jesus more because of his situation which provides the reader with another interpratation of how he is experincing the world
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:26PM) : Its sad but in all reality we get treated different in society due to our race and sometimes we can even see racism in places like church .
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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:19PM) : Simile more

He used figurative language connecting the idea of blessings to a Starbucks rewards card.

Black church had one saving grace. If I could make it to the third or fourth hour I’d get to watch the pastor cast demons out of people. People possessed by demons would start running up and down the aisles like madmen, screaming in tongues. The ushers would tackle them, like bouncers at a club, and hold them down for the pastor. The pastor would grab their heads and violently shake them back and forth, shouting, “I cast out this spirit in the name of Jesus!” Some pastors were more violent than others, but what they all had in common was that they wouldn’t stop until the demon was gone and the congregant had gone limp and collapsed on the stage. The person had to fall. Because if he didn’t fall that meant the demon was powerful and the pastor needed to come at him even harder. You could be a linebacker in the NFL. Didn’t matter. That pastor was taking you down. Good Lord, that was fun.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Dec 01 2020 11:24AM) : Speculation more

I hope there were no concussions inflicted in the name of Jesus…

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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 09 2020 10:53AM) : the daughter is saying that god put that obstacle there so they would stay home. [Edited] more
i think he put that because they was going out to much he just was trying to protect them
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 20 2022 11:46AM) : My man lemme tell you this, everything that happened to a religious person automatically they say "That is an obstacle that god put me" no matter what it is.
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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 10:56AM) : it must be really hard witnessing something like this happen in front of you.
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Isaiah B Isaiah B (Dec 17 2020 10:37AM) : Them response more

Trevor Noah didn’t really fit in with anybody like his mom. He was different from everybody else because if your skin

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Meira J Meira J (Dec 18 2020 11:05AM) : I agree that just because he was mixed it made it hard for him to fit in.
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Keily M Keily M (Mar 23 2021 11:06AM) : Opinion more

This sounds scary, i don’t see these type of things in my church.

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:47PM) : that's sounds impressive but sounds fake
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Christian karaoke, badass action stories, and violent faith healers—man, I loved church. The thing I didn’t love was the lengths we had to go to in order to get to church. It was an epic slog. We lived in Eden Park, a tiny suburb way outside Johannesburg. It took us an hour to get to white church, another forty-five minutes to get to mixed church, and another forty-five minutes to drive out to Soweto for black church. Then, if that wasn’t bad enough, some Sundays we’d double back to white church for a special evening service. By the time we finally got home at night, I’d collapse into bed.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 25 2022 1:35PM) : they had to drive a lot to get to church
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Araxan O Araxan O (Nov 04 2021 12:26PM) : Choice [Edited] more

He repeats the same idea of loving Christian Church, finding the practices and stories to be as enticing as cartoons.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:41AM) : What a workout. But it certainly built his character!
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Zahir M Zahir M (Feb 08 2021 11:03AM) : Fr I feel like that's a lot for a child to handle but he did it.
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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 11:11AM) : Agreed more

Definitely. Seems like a huge ordeal but religion played a huge role in his childhood and had an effect on his character all the way to his adulthood

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 20 2022 11:48AM) : I mean it is, but there they are used to, I came from Dominican Republic my grandmother took me to church every single day until I became more rebel (About 8-10 years old ) and to me it was normal, at that time. [Edited]
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Keily M Keily M (Mar 23 2021 11:08AM) : I would've too! lol
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:48PM) : that would make him tired for school for the next day
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 20 2022 12:12PM) : If that was me I'd definitely collapsed too lol

This particular Sunday, the Sunday I was hurled from a moving car, started out like any other Sunday. My mother woke me up, made me porridge for breakfast. I took my bath while she dressed my baby brother Andrew, who was nine months old. Then we went out to the driveway, but once we were finally all strapped in and ready to go, the car wouldn’t start. My mom had this ancient, broken-down, bright-tangerine Volkswagen Beetle that she picked up for next to nothing. The reason she got it for next to nothing was because it was always breaking down. To this day I hate secondhand cars. Almost everything that’s ever gone wrong in my life I can trace back to a secondhand car. Secondhand cars made me get detention for being late for school. Secondhand cars left us hitchhiking on the side of the freeway. A secondhand car was also the reason my mom got married. If it hadn’t been for the Volkswagen that didn’t work, we never would have looked for the mechanic who became the husband who became the stepfather who became the man who tortured us for years and put a bullet in the back of my mother’s head—I’ll take the new car with the warranty every time.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 04 2020 10:48AM) : Wow I wasn’t expecting that last part , where he explains how his step father caused them so much pain and killed their mom
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Jessica H Jessica H (Nov 04 2020 11:01AM) : You would think a bullet in the back of her head would kill her, but it didn't. more

I know, unbelievable! But it’s true. Sorry for the spoiler, but she survived that.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 15 2020 11:08AM) : summary more

That carless Sunday we made our circuit of churches, ending up, as usual, at white church.

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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:21PM) : Tone more

He uses a narrative tone as if he is speaking to the reader or a close friend.

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Brecklyn J Brecklyn J (Oct 27 2021 12:17PM) : Diverges from the main point of why he was thrown out of the car, but eventually makes it back after giving context about religion in South Africa and the different churches. This allows the reader to know what's going on and why it was so prevalent.
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Kate Y Kate Y (Oct 28 2021 11:07PM) : Imagery/ Attention Grabber more

He writes how he was “hurled from a moving car” which both paints an image of your head but also grabs your attention. He moves away from talking about religion to grab your attention again. It kind of “hurls you back in” to the story if your attention had been lost.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 12 2021 10:47AM) : summary more

saying that secondhand car was a sin

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Paul A (Jan 12 2021 10:55AM) : I'm not sure what you are referring to here. Can you explain more?
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Joan C Joan C (Nov 12 2020 10:34AM) : they felt so much pain
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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 13 2021 10:56AM) : connection more

he says that he always be late to school.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:42AM) : Sheesh.
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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 11:03AM) : so in here she is basically saying that secondhand car was a sin!
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Jessica H Jessica H (Nov 03 2020 11:05AM) : Not so much a sin as a bad luck omen...
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 20 2022 12:15PM) : Not really
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Laure N Laure N (Oct 06 2022 1:51PM) : not really, he was saying that because of a second car, a lot of bad things happened to him which was a bad omen.
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Zahir M Zahir M (Feb 08 2021 2:45PM) : Well that's has to be the worst luck in the world.
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Paul F Paul F (Nov 04 2021 12:24PM) : Paragraph 23 more

“Put a bullet in the back of my mother’s head” works as foreshadowing, as well as the repetition of the secondhand car as a mistake in his life

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:29PM) : Crazy how many history an item can bring you .

As much as I loved church, the idea of a nine-hour slog, from mixed church to white church to black church then doubling back to white church again, was just too much to contemplate. It was bad enough in a car, but taking public transport would be twice as long and twice as hard. When the Volkswagen refused to start, inside my head I was praying, Please say we’ll just stay home. Please say we’ll just stay home. Then I glanced over to see the determined look on my mother’s face, her jaw set, and I knew I had a long day ahead of me.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 25 2022 1:36PM) : it was very challenging for him but he had to follow what his mom says
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Mamadou S Mamadou S (Apr 28 2022 12:51PM) : why is he scared to take a bus?
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“Come,” she said. “We’re going to catch minibuses.”

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Do Abdur W Do Abdur W (Dec 17 2020 10:38AM) : Foreshadowing and upcoming problems. more

Already, with the paragraph only being one sentence long I get the feeling that this next phase will not end well. That and the multiple times Trevor Noah has mentioned being thrown out a moving car.

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My mother is as stubborn as she is religious. Once her mind’s made up, that’s it. Indeed, obstacles that would normally lead a person to change their plans, like a car breaking down, only made her more determined to forge ahead.

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Dasani D Dasani D (Feb 10 2021 11:31AM) : i relate to this because my mother is the same way no matter how many times you try to change her mind she doesnt care shes going what she wants to go with.
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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:13PM) : . more

Is is mom alive she got shot

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Imani W Imani W (Oct 19 2023 2:20PM) : my mom is also like that if she puts her mind to something you can't stop her.
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:44AM) : He’s still talking about his mother in the present tense....did she survive a bullet to the head???
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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Oct 13 2023 10:51AM) : I can relate to this a little bit because once my mom make her mind up there's no changing it, but then she might change her mind or forget about.
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Samuel R Samuel R (Oct 13 2023 11:56AM) : My Mom was the same way :)
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“It’s the Devil,” she said about the stalled car. “The Devil doesn’t want us to go to church. That’s why we’ve got to catch minibuses.”

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Long H Long H (Dec 17 2020 10:43AM) : race and religion more

I still don’t know what he means when The Devil doesn’t want us to go to church. But I do know that he is trying to say that the devil is the white person that doesn’t want the black people to go to church but they want them to just their own religion.

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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:18PM) : ! more

!

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2022 Samuel H 2022 Samuel H (Oct 28 2021 10:28PM) : Trevor is giving an adequate characterization of his mother in this sentence. To the audience this may seem comedic, but to Trevor this was how life was and he is accurately describing the culture in which he was raised.
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Whenever I found myself up against my mother’s faith-based obstinacy, I would try, as respectfully as possible, to counter with an opposing point of view.

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“Or,” I said, “the Lord knows that today we shouldn’t go to church, which is why he made sure the car wouldn’t start, so that we stay at home as a family and take a day of rest, because even the Lord rested.”

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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 11:09AM) : so they both have different pov's, the mom thinks is the devil trying to stop her from going to church & the daughter is saying that god put that obstacle there so they would stay home.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 14 2020 11:10AM) : summary more
so they both have different pov’s, the mom thinks is the devil trying to stop her from going to church & the daughter is saying that god put that obstacle there so they would stay home.
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Katherine C Katherine C (Dec 17 2020 10:22AM) : Theme response. more

We can see that Religion has a lot to do with how life went for Trevor. Whatever has happened good or bad it was good decision. To his mother. He thought it just happens. Trevor would try to change his mother thoughts on their religion but she wouldn’t agree.

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“Ah, that’s the Devil talking, Trevor.”

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“No, because Jesus is in control, and if Jesus is in control and we pray to Jesus, he would let the car start, but he hasn’t, therefore—”

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 19 2021 10:38AM) : connection [Edited] more
the story of Job is about a man who had everything and still praised the lord and that happen to me too
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“No, Trevor! Sometimes Jesus puts obstacles in your way to see if you overcome them. Like Job. This could be a test.”

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:31PM) : This is so real its all about how you take it because sometimes jesus just prevents you but shes a female with dedication
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DaShaun H DaShaun H (Dec 17 2020 10:39AM) : the story of Job is about a man who had everything and still praised the lord but satan asked god to test his loyalty so he killed his wife and children took away basically everything he got to see if he would still praise the lord.
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“Ah! Yes, Mom. But the test could be to see if we’re willing to accept what has happened and stay at home and praise Jesus for his wisdom.”

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“No. That’s the Devil talking. Now go change your clothes.” “But, Mom!”

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:51PM) : wow she is very religious, sounds like fanatism
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“Trevor! Sun’qhela!

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (Apr 28 2022 1:16PM) : I'm going to say sun'qhela to my children.
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:46AM) : This sounds close in meaning to “Ya estuvo!” In Mexico, which translates literally to “it already was!” Or, we’ve been done with this topic, so stop it now.

Sun’qhela is a phrase with many shades of meaning. It says “don’t undermine me,” “don’t underestimate me,” and “just try me.” It’s a command and a threat, all at once. It’s a common thing for Xhosa parents to say to their kids. Any time I heard it I knew it meant the conversation was over, and if I uttered another word I was in for a hiding—what we call a spanking.

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At the time, I attended a private Catholic school called Maryvale College. I was the champion of the Maryvale sports day every single year, and my mother won the moms’ trophy every single year. Why? Because she was always chasing me to kick my ass, and I was always running not to get my ass kicked. Nobody ran like me and my mom. She wasn’t one of those “Come over here and get your

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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 2:49AM) : interesting use of "shades" to describe a variety of different meanings - another possible hint at race being a major point of discussion?
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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 19 2021 11:06AM) : summary more

he say that he was a master at street fighter

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Jessica H Jessica H (Apr 27 2022 1:08PM) : Nice
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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 13 2021 11:01AM) : connection more

he says that his mom running at him because she was going to kick his ass because he did sometime bad

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Christian R Christian R (Nov 03 2020 11:11AM) : her mom was insanely supportive to him. [Edited]
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hiding” type moms. She’d deliver it to you free of charge. She was a thrower, too. Whatever was next to her was coming at you. If it was something breakable, I had to catch it and put it down. If it broke, that would be my fault, too, and the ass-kicking would be that much worse. If she threw a vase at me, I’d have to catch it, put it down, and then run. In a split second, I’d have to think, Is it valuable? Yes. Is it breakable? Yes. Catch it, put it down, now run.

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We had a very Tom and Jerry relationship, me and my mom. She was the strict disciplinarian; I was naughty as shit. She would send me out to buy groceries, and I wouldn’t come right home because I’d be using the change from the milk and bread to play arcade games at the supermarket. I loved videogames. I was a master at Street Fighter. I could go forever on a single play. I’d drop a coin in, time would fly, and the next thing I knew there’d be a woman behind me with a belt. It was a race. I’d take off out the door and through the dusty streets of Eden Park, clambering over walls, ducking through backyards. It was a normal thing in our neighborhood. Everybody knew: That Trevor child would come through like a bat out of hell, and his mom would be right there behind him. She could go at a full sprint in high heels, but if she really wanted to come after me she had this thing where she’d kick her shoes off while still going at top speed. She’d do this weird move with her ankles and the heels would go flying and she wouldn’t even miss a step. That’s when I knew, Okay, she’s in turbo mode now.

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Zahir M Zahir M (Feb 08 2021 2:51PM) : She is a mom that you can't play with in a serious situation and if you play you definitely gonna get a whooping.
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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 08 2021 3:08PM) : Connection more

I can connect with this. My Mom, was a church-going, god-fearing, praying all the time women. She says my success is due to all her prayers. I don’t argue with her on this point, because I can’t win

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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 08 2021 3:09PM) : lol
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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 10:33AM) : Great comparison more

I can actually imagine this! Seems very comedic in hindsight, but it must be scary being chased by your mom especially if she was coming to beat you.

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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:19PM) : , more

facts seems like i’m dreaming

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2022 Andrew B 2022 Andrew B (Oct 28 2021 6:45PM) : It shows the type of relationship that they had and how it worked out for them I guess.
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Kate Y Kate Y (Oct 28 2021 11:09PM) : Outside Reference more

Uses an outside reference to make a comparison the reader will understand.

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Maya R Maya R (Oct 29 2021 1:32PM) : Using a famous, commonly watched cartoon to describe his relationship with his mom as possibly repetitive, constantly fighting. But when one is in trouble with something else they are there for each other.
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Antonio S Antonio S (Nov 06 2023 1:57PM) : This shows that they have an on and off relationship with each other, doesn't mean its a bad one tho.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 23 2020 11:00AM) : he says that,She would send me out to buy groceries, and I wouldn’t come right home because I’d be using the change from the milk and bread to play arcade games at the supermarket.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 13 2020 9:43AM) : That Trevor child would come through like a bat out of hell, and his mom would be right there behind him.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 13 2020 9:45AM) : I was a master at Street Fighter
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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:23PM) : Figurative Language more

He used figurative language in the form of an idiom to describe one of his passions, video games.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:34PM) : lol i rather get the wip first hand because if i make my molm run whats coming after its worst.
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When I was little she always caught me, but as I got older I got faster, and when speed failed her she’d use her wits. If I was about to get away she’d yell, “Stop! Thief!” She’d do this to her own child. In South Africa, nobody gets involved in other people’s business—unless it’s mob justice, and then everybody wants in. So she’d yell “Thief!” knowing it would bring the whole neighborhood out against me, and then I’d have strangers trying to grab me and tackle me, and I’d have to duck and dive and dodge them as well, all the while screaming, “I’m not a thief! I’m her son!”

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 12:54PM) : she is very crazy
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Victoria G Victoria G (Oct 12 2023 8:34PM) : Community Dynamic [Edited] more

This dynamic in the community is very familylike,its funny even. I could definitely see family not wanting to be caught up in other member business ,but when it comes to someone hurting their family they are all ready and come running to get involved.

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Izirahh B Izirahh B (Oct 13 2023 10:49AM) : I relate to Trevor when it comes down to running from a parent or guardian to avoid an butt whooping.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Nov 23 2020 11:19AM) : he is trying to explain that he was sorry for upset her
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The last thing I wanted to do that Sunday morning was climb into some crowded minibus, but the second I heard my mom say sun’qhela I knew my fate was sealed. She gathered up Andrew and we climbed out of the Volkswagen and went out to try to catch a ride.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 19 2021 11:19AM) : summary more
Maybe having a white leader didn’t sit well with them because of what they’ve been through in the past.
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I was five years old, nearly six, when Nelson Mandela was released from prison. I remember seeing it on TV and everyone being happy. I didn’t know why we were happy, just that we were. I was aware of the fact that there was a thing called apartheid and it was ending and that was a big deal, but I didn’t understand the intricacies of it.

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (Apr 26 2022 1:33PM) : .
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Mamadou S Mamadou S (Apr 28 2022 1:09PM) : why was nelson mandela locked up wasnt he the president
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 03 2022 1:13PM) : Nelson Mandela was a good example of a brave man from Africa
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2022 Andrew B 2022 Andrew B (Oct 28 2021 6:48PM) : The apartheid was ending and he had not known much about it. Yes he is only 5 but people today do not really pay attention what is going on in the world and I really think that they should.

What I do remember, what I will never forget, is the violence that followed. The triumph of democracy over apartheid is sometimes called the Bloodless Revolution. It is called that because very little white blood was spilled. Black blood ran in the streets.

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As the apartheid regime fell, we knew that the black man was now going to rule. The question was, which black man? Spates of violence broke out between the Inkatha Freedom Party and the ANC, the African National Congress, as they jockeyed for power. The political dynamic between these two groups was very complicated, but the simplest way to understand it is as a proxy war between Zulu and Xhosa. The Inkatha was predominantly Zulu, very militant and very nationalistic. The ANC was a broad coalition encompassing many different tribes, but its leaders at the time were primarily Xhosa. Instead of uniting for peace they turned on one another, committing acts of unbelievable savagery. Massive riots broke out. Thousands of people were killed. Necklacing was common. That’s where people would hold someone down and put a rubber tire over his torso, pinning his arms. Then they’d douse him with petrol and set him on fire and burn him alive. The ANC did it to Inkatha. Inkatha did it to the ANC. I saw one of those charred bodies on the side of the road one day on my way to school. In the evenings my mom and I would turn on our little black-and-white TV and watch the news. A dozen people killed. Fifty people killed. A hundred people killed.

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Tyshawn M Tyshawn M (Dec 17 2020 10:29AM) : reader response to race more

In the paragraph the apartheid fell and the people wanted a leader of their own race to speak for them. b Maybe having a white leader didn’t sit well with them because of what they’ve been through in the past.

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Evan N Evan N (Oct 29 2021 1:28PM) : Apartheid more

Apartheid was social discrimination in South Africa. Race conflicts continue to stir.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 03 2022 1:37PM) : Why Nelson Mandela being freed brought so much violance
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 2:55AM) : connection to warring tribes described earlier in the chapter
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Eden Park sat not far from the sprawling townships of the East Rand, Thokoza and Katlehong, which were the sites of some of the most horrific Inkatha–ANC clashes. Once a month at least we’d drive home and the neighborhood would be on fire. Hundreds of rioters in the street. My mom would edge the car slowly through the crowds and around blockades made of flaming tires. Nothing burns like a tire—it rages with a fury you can’t imagine. As we drove past the burning blockades, it felt like we were inside an oven. I used to say to my mom, “I think Satan burns tires in Hell.”

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 23 2022 1:25PM) : Like DR when the people make strikes for the salary (Payment)
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Mamadou S Mamadou S (Apr 28 2022 1:17PM) : why do they have to burn the tires if its hot arent they there in a protest?

Whenever the riots broke out, all our neighbors would wisely hole up behind closed doors. But not my mom. She’d head straight out, and as we’d inch our way past the blockades, she’d give the rioters this look. Let me pass. I’m not involved in this shit. She was unwavering in the face of danger. That always amazed me. It didn’t matter that there was a war on our doorstep. She had things to do, places to be. It was the same stubbornness that kept her going to church despite a broken-down car. There could be five hundred rioters with a blockade of burning tires on the main road out of Eden Park, and my mother would say, “Get dressed. I’ve got to go to work. You’ve got to go to school.”

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Tyshawn M Tyshawn M (Dec 17 2020 9:33AM) : compare and contrast [Edited] more

This paragraph has a lot alike whats going on today with the riots and protest because of deaths caused by police brutality. But in the one it seems that people don’t want to be involved with any of it. this shows how people might have been afraid to speak up.

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 11:31AM) : she really was consistent and serious with work and church
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 1:56AM) : joking metaphor/fake scenario to show how much his mother was hardcore
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“But aren’t you afraid?” I’d say. “There’s only one of you and there’s so many of them.”

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“Honey, I’m not alone,” she’d say. “I’ve got all of Heaven’s angels behind me.”

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 25 2022 1:38PM) : his mom was religious enough to know that god is on her side
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 04 2022 12:41PM) : God can give such a peace and strength that nothing can take away .

“Well, it would be nice if we could see them,” I’d say. “Because I don’t think the rioters know they’re there.”

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Penelope D Penelope D (Oct 27 2021 3:33PM) : I think this is a good take on things. it's true that in our world, there aren't angels to guard us. We cant see them and they wont help us when we are in trouble. He is being realistic even if it goes against what his mom believes.

She’d tell me not to worry. She always came back to the phrase she lived by: “If God is with me, who can be against me?” She was never scared. Even when she should have been.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:33AM) : That was definitely her coping mechanism.
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Jessica H Jessica H (Apr 27 2022 12:15PM) : Connected
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 11:35AM) : her faith is really impressive and inspirational
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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 14 2020 10:19AM) : connected more

This is why God wanted us to stay home. for example like covid-19 we need to stay home to be safe.

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Jhamir B Jhamir B (Dec 17 2020 9:40AM) : Theme Response more

The theme in this statement is how Apartheid manipulated the people of South Africa. Apartheid manipulated the South Africans by separating them and then gradually letting them hate on another in a proxy war.

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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Oct 13 2023 6:48PM) : I like this quote because she believe in her god and she know that nobody can be against her but god.
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That carless Sunday we made our circuit of churches, ending up, as usual, at white church. When we walked out of Rosebank Union it was dark and we were alone. It had been an endless day of minibuses from mixed church to black church to white church, and I was exhausted. It was nine o’clock at least. In those days, with all the violence and riots going on, you did not want to be out that late at night. We were standing at the corner of Jellicoe Avenue and Oxford Road, right in the heart of Johannesburg’s wealthy, white suburbia, and there were no minibuses. The streets were empty.

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I so badly wanted to turn to my mom and say, “You see? This is why God wanted us to stay home.” But one look at the expression on her face, and I knew better than to speak. There were times I could talk smack to my mom—this was not one of them.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 14 2020 10:35AM) : Smart boy.

We waited and waited for a minibus to come by. Under apartheid the government provided no public transportation for blacks, but white people still needed us to show up to mop their floors and clean their bathrooms. Necessity being the mother of invention, black people created their own transit system, an informal network of bus routes, controlled by private associations operating entirely outside the law. Because the minibus business was completely unregulated, it was basically organized crime. Different groups ran different routes, and they would fight over who controlled what. There was bribery and general shadiness that went on, a great deal of violence, and a lot of protection money paid to avoid violence. The one thing you didn’t do was steal a route from a rival group. Drivers who stole routes would get killed. Being unregulated, minibuses were also very unreliable. When they came, they came. When they didn’t, they didn’t.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 09 2020 11:22AM) : summary more
black people created their own transit system, an informal network of bus routes, controlled by private associations operating entirely outside the law.
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Standing outside Rosebank Union, I was literally falling asleep on my feet. Not a minibus in sight. Eventually my mother said, “Let’s hitchhike.” We walked and walked, and after what felt like an eternity, a car drove up and stopped. The driver offered us a ride, and we climbed in. We hadn’t gone ten feet when suddenly a minibus swerved right in front of the car and cut us off.

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A Zulu driver got out with an iwisa, a large, traditional Zulu weapon—a war club, basically. They’re used to smash people’s skulls in. Another guy, his crony, got out of the passenger side. They walked up to the driver’s side of the car we were in, grabbed the man who’d offered us a ride, pulled him out, and started shoving their clubs in his face. “Why are you stealing our customers? Why are you picking people up?”

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 04 2022 12:46PM) : Its crazy how the system make people turn agaisnt each other due to the struggles they put us . Its like a war zone they create and we battle in the low class.
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It looked like they were going to kill this guy. I knew that happened sometimes. My mom spoke up. “Hey, listen, he was just helping me. Leave him. We’ll ride with you. That’s what we wanted in the first place.” So we got out of the first car and climbed into the minibus.

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We were the only passengers in the minibus. In addition to being violent gangsters, South African minibus drivers are notorious for complaining and haranguing passengers as they drive. This driver was a particularly angry one. As we rode along, he started lecturing my mother about being in a car with a man who was not her husband. My mother didn’t suffer lectures from strange men. She told him to mind his own business, and when he heard her speaking in Xhosa, that really set him off. The stereotypes of Zulu and Xhosa women were as ingrained as those of the men. Zulu women were well-behaved and dutiful. Xhosa women were promiscuous and unfaithful. And here was my mother, his tribal enemy, a Xhosa woman alone with two small children—one of them a mixed child, no less. Not just a whore but a whore who sleeps with white men. “Oh, you’re a Xhosa,” he said. “That explains it. Climbing into strange men’s cars. Disgusting woman.”

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Santee S Santee S (Dec 17 2020 12:34PM) : Theme response-Ethnicity more

Zulu and Xhosa don’t get along in this text, they argue over the most simplest things that most people don’t argue over. This happens because of the government starting the apartheid and trying to make these different ethnicity fight so they don’t have to play a part in removing them for being black. To me he shouldn’t have brought up ethnicity, he should’ve just stick to doing his job and dropping them off at their destination.

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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:30PM) : . more

all that for riding with the other guy

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Evan N Evan N (Oct 29 2021 1:32PM) : Dangers more

Highlights the dangers of the streets of South Africa. Must be cautious

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Joan C Joan C (Nov 12 2020 10:45AM) : they were the only passanger in the bus
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Paul A (Nov 12 2020 10:47AM) : What makes this important or significant to you?
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Naika S Naika S (Dec 17 2020 12:23PM) : Gender response more

This shows that the men of the Zulu tribe would think that the Xhosa women were whores that slept with white men. but in Trevors pov he was them as well behaved and dubtiful

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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 11:16AM) : Ethnic Stereotypes more

It seems that there are a lot of stereotypes and hostility between the Zulu and Xhosa tribes especially stereotypes of women.

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My mom kept telling him off and he kept calling her names, yelling at her from the front seat, wagging his finger in the rearview mirror and growing more and more menacing until finally he said, “That’s the problem with you Xhosa women. You’re all sluts—and tonight you’re going to learn your lesson.”

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Meira J Meira J (Dec 17 2020 12:32PM) : Theme more

This shows the gender norms of how Xhosa women were seen.

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Brianna V Brianna V (Oct 28 2021 10:40PM) : This is when the mom realized they were in danger. A argument ended up turning into a threat
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Victoria G Victoria G (Oct 12 2023 8:42PM) : Stereotype of Xhosa Women more

Its crazy how bad this stereotype was in south africa that men as common as him all believe this same thing about all Xhosa women.

He sped off. He was driving fast, and he wasn’t stopping, only slowing down to check for traffic at the intersections before speeding through. Death was never far away from anybody back then. At that point my mother could be raped. We could be killed. These were all viable options. I didn’t fully comprehend the danger we were in at the moment; I was so tired that I just wanted to sleep. Plus my mom stayed very calm. She didn’t panic, so I didn’t know to panic. She just kept trying to reason with him.

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Izirahh B Izirahh B (Oct 13 2023 10:47AM) : I like how Trevor's mother didn't show fear because she knew if she panicked so would Trevor.
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“I’m sorry if we’ve upset you, bhuti. You can just let us out here—” “No.”

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“Really, it’s fine. We can just walk—” “No.”

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He raced along Oxford Road, the lanes empty, no other cars out. I was sitting closest to the minibus’s sliding door. My mother sat next to me, holding baby Andrew. She looked out the window at the passing road and then leaned over to me and whispered, “Trevor, when he slows down at the next intersection, I’m going to open the door and we’re going to jump.”

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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:31PM) : . more

I see she made a big risk to protect her and her child

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 27 2021 12:40PM) : summary more

And thus begins the problem/main focus or this chapter. Trevor, his mom and little brother are being kidnapped because Patrica is Xhosa and the man is Zulu.

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Naika S Naika S (Dec 17 2020 12:29PM) : growing up response more

This shows that Trevor’s mom would to anything to get her children to safety. Even if she knew that he might get bruised.

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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 11:19AM) : Patricia's Character more

she really cares about her children and even though she has to make tough calls sometimes, she prioritizes her children’s safety.

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Do Abdur W Do Abdur W (Dec 18 2020 10:06AM) : Tribes and gender norms. more

And thus begins the problem/main focus or this chapter. Trevor, his mom and little brother are being kidnapped because Patrica is Xhosa and the man is Zulu. There are other reasons but that seems like the main focus.

I didn’t hear a word of what she was saying, because by that point I’d completely nodded off. When we came to the next traffic light, the driver eased off the gas a bit to look around and check the road. My mother reached over, pulled the sliding door open, grabbed me, and threw me out as far as she could. Then she took Andrew, curled herself in a ball around him, and leaped out behind me.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 04 2020 11:07AM) : Wow she’s very strong
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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 17 2021 8:26PM) : , more

she is very brave and strong

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Aissata T Aissata T (Dec 17 2020 10:16AM) : Readers response more

If he was sleep, how does he know what happened? Is what he said really reliable? Is this what really happened?

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Zaade M Zaade M (Dec 17 2020 1:40PM) : Readers response more

This paragraph was the most exciting out of the rest because it was very dangerous. But it made me wonder what would have happened if she did not make that risk to jump? They could have killed them all or done other things to them but I guess her call was right.

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Jordan K Jordan K (Dec 17 2020 10:09AM) : This shows that the mother knew what was best to keep her son alive by throwing him out of a bus. She didn't care if Trevor got hurt because she knew that he was going to be ok. Good mothers do whatever it takes to keep their children out of harm's way. [Edited]
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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Oct 13 2023 7:54PM) : Trevor mom did whatever it took to make sure her kids would survive and i like that about her because she's a mom that will take the risk.
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It felt like a dream until the pain hit. Bam! I smacked hard on the pavement. My mother landed right beside me and we tumbled and tumbled and rolled and rolled. I was wide awake now. I went from half asleep to What the hell?!

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Georgia S Georgia S (Oct 29 2021 12:47PM) : Trevor Noah's use of the onomatopoeia and his remark of "What the Hell?" bring us into the story and also bring me back to when I was a kid. I related to the way he narrated how the story happened. Instead of looking back, he narrated it like the present.
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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 27 2021 12:46PM) : connection more
She didn’t care if Trevor got hurt because she knew that he was going to be ok. Good mothers do whatever it takes to keep their children out of harm’s
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Brianna V Brianna V (Oct 28 2021 10:41PM) : At first when Trevor mentioned how he was thrown out of a car when he was younger I was confused about the context and now I understand it was a life threatening situation
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Eventually I came to a stop and pulled myself up, completely disoriented. I looked around and saw my mother, already on her feet. She turned and looked at me and screamed.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 27 2021 12:42PM) : connection more

This shows that Trevor’s mom would to anything to get her children to safety.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 27 2021 12:47PM) : summary more

They could have killed them all or done other things to them but I guess her call was right.

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“Run!”

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So I ran, and she ran, and nobody ran like me and my mom.

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It’s weird to explain, but I just knew what to do. It was animal instinct, learned in a world where violence was always lurking and waiting to erupt. In the townships, when the police came swooping in with their riot gear and armored cars and helicopters, I knew: Run for cover. Run and hide. I knew that as a five-year-old. Had I lived a different life, getting thrown out of a speeding minibus might have fazed me. I’d have stood there like an idiot, going, “What’s happening, Mom? Why are my legs so sore?” But there was none of that. Mom said “run,” and I ran. Like the gazelle runs from the lion, I ran.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 04 2020 10:08AM) : Must have hurt to run with sore legs
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Antonio S Antonio S (Nov 06 2023 1:05PM) : Thats good that he has the instinct to just run away from what it is without knowing, in most cases its best if you dont know
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Mamadou S Mamadou S (May 04 2022 12:14PM) : wow hes pretty scared of his mom
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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 3:27PM) : Simile more

More figurative language to paint a picture

The men stopped the minibus and got out and tried to chase us, but they didn’t stand a chance. We smoked them. I think they were in shock. I still remember glancing back and seeing them give up with a look of utter bewilderment on their faces. What just happened? Who’d have thought a woman with two small children could run so fast? They didn’t know they were dealing with the reigning champs of the Maryvale College sports day. We kept going and going until we made it to a twenty-four-hour petrol station and called the police. By then the men were long gone.

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I still didn’t know why any of this had happened; I’d been running on pure adrenaline. Once we stopped running I realized how much pain I was in. I looked down, and the skin on my arms was scraped and torn. I was cut up and bleeding all over. Mom was, too. My baby brother was fine, though, incredibly. My mom had wrapped herself around him, and he’d come through without a scratch. I turned to her in shock.

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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:28PM) : Diction more

The way he writes is as if he is speaking to a friend. He uses words that depict a child of his age but are also mature.

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“What was that?! Why are we running?!”

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“What do you mean, ‘Why are we running?’ Those men were trying to kill us.” “You never told me that! You just threw me out of the car!”

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Katerin L Katerin L (Dec 17 2020 12:20PM) : theme response more

this shows the danger of being a mix child during apartheid in south Africa.I shows the idea of “born a crime”

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“I did tell you. Why didn’t you jump?” “Jump?! I was asleep!”

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“So I should have left you there for them to kill you?”

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“At least they would have woken me up before they killed me.”

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Mamadou S Mamadou S (May 04 2022 1:37PM) : hes complaining about sleeping but would of being injured in that situation
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Back and forth we went. I was too confused and too angry about getting thrown out of the car to realize what had happened. My mother had saved my life.

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Zahir M Zahir M (Feb 08 2021 3:10PM) : I don't know if I would have been able to survive if I was in his shoes so after hearing this I got a lot of respect for the man.
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 04 2022 12:51PM) : Mothers faced so much sometimes by the time we can call them mom , they are a genius that can predict situations and also save us from a lot .
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 12:43PM) : his mother was brave in that situation and ended up saving their life

As we caught our breath and waited for the police to come and drive us home, she said, “Well, at least we’re safe, thank God.”

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But I was nine years old and I knew better. I wasn’t going to keep quiet this time.

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Dewry C Dewry C (Jan 27 2021 12:55PM) : summary more
It reminded me how back then during slavery, there were certain things each race couldn’t do together.

“No, Mom! This was not thanks to God! You should have listened to God when he told us to stay at home when the car wouldn’t start, because clearly the Devil tricked us into coming out tonight.”

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 04 2020 11:10AM) : I agree I think they should’ve stayed home , it’s okay to take some days off and rest , but she is very stubborn
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Yes, I definitely agree. I feel like those were signs from God for her to stay home, I’ve seen many stories like these and I feel like she should’ve listened to the signs.

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“No, Trevor! That’s not how the Devil works. This is part of God’s plan, and if He wanted us here then He had a reason…”

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And on and on and there we were, back at it, arguing about God’s will. Finally I said, “Look, Mom. I know you love Jesus, but maybe next week you could ask him to meet us at our house. Because this really wasn’t a fun night.”

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 9:06AM) : Now I see that humor was a survival skill for him.
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She broke out in a huge smile and started laughing. I started laughing, too, and we stood there, this little boy and his mom, our arms and legs covered in blood and dirt, laughing together through the pain in the light of a petrol station on the side of the road in the middle of the night.

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Brianna V Brianna V (Oct 28 2021 10:42PM) : After everything they went through him and his mom ended up laughing and forgetting about it for a second and were happy they were still alive and safe
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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 11:24AM) : Theme more

Laughter is the best medicine in situations like these. After a very intense scene, we end with a lighthearted one.

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Victoria G Victoria G (Oct 12 2023 8:24PM) : Relation more

I can relate with Trevor on this scale of humor with his mother.His bond with his mother is strong and they understand each other enough to be able to laugh even after such an encounter.

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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Oct 13 2023 7:57PM) : I can relate to this because when me and my mom argument we sometimes can take each other serious and we start laughing.
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Andrea G Andrea G (Oct 18 2023 10:04AM) : I relate to this. My mom and I could be arguing and two seconds later we could say something funny and both laugh.

Apartheid was perfect racism. It took centuries to develop, starting all the way back in 1652

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Sianni S Sianni S (Feb 17 2021 1:34PM) : racism more

This is so true all throughout our history we can see how racism has been ingrained into society,even now.

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Meira J Meira J (Dec 17 2020 12:36PM) : Theme more

Racism was a huge part of South Africa and the Apartheid didnt really help that much with making it any better.

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when the Dutch East India Company landed at the Cape of Good Hope and established a trading colony, Kaapstad, later known as Cape Town, a rest stop for ships traveling between Europe and India. To impose white rule, the Dutch colonists went to war with the natives, ultimately developing a set of laws to subjugate and enslave them. When the British took over the Cape Colony, the descendants of the original Dutch settlers trekked inland and developed their own language, culture, and customs, eventually becoming their own people, the Afrikaners—the white tribe of Africa.

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The British abolished slavery in name but kept it in practice. They did so because, in the mid-1800s, in what had been written off as a near-worthless way station on the route to the Far East, a few lucky capitalists stumbled upon the richest gold and diamond reserves in the world, and an endless supply of expendable bodies was needed to go in the ground and get it all out.

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As the British Empire fell, the Afrikaner rose up to claim South Africa as his rightful inheritance. To maintain power in the face of the country’s rising and restless black majority, the government realized they needed a newer and more robust set of tools. They set up a formal commission to go out and study institutionalized racism all over the world. They went to Australia. They went to the Netherlands. They went to America. They saw what worked, what didn’t. Then they came back and published a report, and the government used that knowledge to build the most advanced system of racial oppression known to man.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 10:26AM) : Oh, wow. They actually did homework on how to make slavery more effective.
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Apartheid was a police state, a system of surveillance and laws designed to keep black people under total control. A full compendium of those laws would run more than three thousand pages and weigh approximately ten pounds, but the general thrust of it should be easy enough for any American to understand. In America you had the forced removal of the native onto reservations coupled with slavery followed by segregation. Imagine all three of those things happening to the same group of people at the same time. That was apartheid.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 04 2020 11:15AM) : That’s terrible
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Izirahh B Izirahh B (Oct 13 2023 9:30AM) : Despite me not experiencing Apartheid for myself, I know it was a cruel time o be alive.
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May 4
Cristy I Cristy I (May 04 2022 1:16PM) : This is america a system built to make you believe they on your side tryna provide better but instead helping you end up in a facility due to all the injustices , hate and struggle . [Edited]
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 10:27AM) : This is a really clear, effective comparison.
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2 BORN A CRIME

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I grew up in South Africa during apartheid, which was awkward because I was raised in a mixed family, with me being the mixed one in the family. My mother, Patricia Nombuyiselo Noah, is black. My father, Robert, is white. Swiss/German, to be precise, which Swiss/Germans invariably are. During apartheid, one of the worst crimes you could commit was having sexual relations with a person of another race. Needless to say, my parents committed that crime.

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Zoe T Zoe T (Feb 11 2021 11:28AM) : Comparison more

I found this similar to slavery in the U.S. In the U.S. it was not a crime for a white man to take advantage of a woman, but it was a crime for them to be in love.

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Oct 26
Lily V Lily V (Oct 26 2021 2:49PM) : Choice more

He chooses to use awkward instead of a word we would think someone use like upsetting, it just gives light that he grew up feeling out of place and he felt confused being mixed.

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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:30PM) : Setting more

Gives good background to his life letting the reader understand who they are reading about.

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Apr 26
Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 12:33PM) : that was an irrelevant law
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 12:49PM) : why would it be a crime? back then, racism was really serious
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In any society built on institutionalized racism, race-mixing doesn’t merely challenge the system as unjust, it reveals the system as unsustainable and incoherent. Race-mixing proves that races can mix—and in a lot of cases, want to mix. Because a mixed person embodies that rebuke to the logic of the system, race-mixing becomes a crime worse than treason.

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2022 Samuel H 2022 Samuel H (Oct 28 2021 10:31PM) : This is a key element in the entire chapter and a very bold statement. He is 100 percent correct in that the system is unsustainable when it comes to preventing situations such as biracial individuals who completely disrupted the system.
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May 10
Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 12:58PM) : Together we are stronger and the more white people stop being races the biggest problem the system has .

Humans being humans and sex being sex, that prohibition never stopped anyone. There were mixed kids in South Africa nine months after the first Dutch boats hit the beach in Table Bay. Just like in America, the colonists here had their way with the native women, as colonists so often do. Unlike in America, where anyone with one drop of black blood automatically became black, in South Africa mixed people came to be classified as their own separate group, neither black nor white but what we call “colored.” Colored people, black people, white people, and Indian people were forced to register their race with the government. Based on those classifications, millions of people were uprooted and relocated. Indian areas were segregated from colored areas, which were segregated from black areas—all of them segregated from white areas and separated from one another by buffer zones of empty land. Laws were passed prohibiting sex between Europeans and natives, laws that were later amended to prohibit sex between whites and all nonwhites.

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Shekera W Shekera W (Dec 17 2020 1:43PM) : Compare and contrast. more

This paragraph reminded me a lot about slavery. In the text, it said two separate races couldn’t have any sexual relation towards each other. It reminded me how back then during slavery, there were certain things each race couldn’t do together. Like drinking water, different schools, etc

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Yan C Yan C (Oct 29 2021 1:30PM) : Uses another similar historical event to compare to the apartheid to support his idea of "the prohibition never stopped anyone".
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Aubrey W Aubrey W (Dec 17 2020 12:34PM) : compare/contrast more

It compares American to Africa with blood. In America they would consider him black but Africa consider him mixed.

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The government went to insane lengths to try to enforce these new laws. The penalty for breaking them was five years in prison. There were whole police squads whose only job was to go around peeking through windows—clearly an assignment for only the finest law enforcement officers. And if an interracial couple got caught, God help them. The police would kick down the door, drag the people out, beat them, arrest them. At least that’s what they did to the black person. With the white person it was more like, “Look, I’ll just say you were drunk,

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but don’t do it again, eh? Cheers.” That’s how it was with a white man and a black woman. If a black man was caught having sex with a white woman, he’d be lucky if he wasn’t charged with rape.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:02PM) : Its sad how many times we see stories of black man losing their lives to prison or a graveyard just for even looking a white women who will claim they got rape .

If you ask my mother whether she ever considered the ramifications of having a mixed child under apartheid, she will say no. She wanted to do something, figured out a way to do it, and then she did it. She had a level of fearlessness that you have to possess to take on something like she did. If you stop to consider the ramifications, you’ll never do anything. Still, it was a crazy, reckless thing to do. A million things had to go right for us to slip through the cracks the way we did for as long as we did.

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Kurt M Kurt M (Oct 27 2021 7:04PM) : Noah makes tiny choices like adding words such as "cheers." to add humor to his writing while also using that commentary to make the context of what it was like to grow up in South Africa more relatable to the reader
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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:31PM) : Figurative language more

“Slip through the cracks” is used as opposed to using a simple word.

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Under apartheid, if you were a black man you worked on a farm or in a factory or in a mine. If you were a black woman, you worked in a factory or as a maid. Those were pretty much your only options. My mother didn’t want to work in a factory. She was a horrible cook and never would have stood for some white lady telling her what to do all day. So, true to her nature, she found an option that was not among the ones presented to her: She took a secretarial course, a typing class. At the time, a black woman learning how to type was like a blind person learning how to drive. It’s an admirable effort, but you’re unlikely to ever be called upon to execute the task. By law, white-collar jobs and skilled-labor jobs were reserved for whites. Black people didn’t work in offices. My mom, however, was a rebel, and, fortunately for her, her rebellion came along at the right moment.

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Shekera W Shekera W (Dec 17 2020 1:47PM) : Theme response. more

After reading the paragraph, I feel like no matter which gender you were, while being a person of color, both jobs that were assigned was a struggle to work with. In my opinion, whites weren’t assigned anything and had very much freedom to do their own thing. White privilege was a problem back then and still is now.

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Jordan K Jordan K (Dec 18 2020 9:57AM) : White Privilege more

I agree with this because there is still white privilege in this World. For example, a black man that works hard to earn a promotion doesn’t get it because a white man wanted the position too. This has to change.

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 12:54PM) : his mom is really special, she was not afraid of what could happend
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 10:34AM) : We think about comic books or interesting costumes when we say the word “hero”, but usually it’s a stubborn, lucky person who is scared to death and does what they need to do anyway.
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Zone A Zone A (Apr 28 2022 12:43PM) : it a good idea

In the early 1980s, the South African government began making minor reforms in an attempt to quell international protest over the atrocities and human rights abuses of apartheid. Among those reforms was the token hiring of black workers in low-level white-collar jobs. Like typists. Through an employment agency she got a job as a secretary at ICI, a multinational pharmaceutical company in Braamfontein, a suburb of Johannesburg.

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When my mom started working, she still lived with my grandmother in Soweto, the township where the government had relocated my family decades before. But my mother was unhappy at home, and when she was twenty-two she ran away to live in downtown Johannesburg. There was only one problem: It was illegal for black people to live there.

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The ultimate goal of apartheid was to make South Africa a white country, with every black person stripped of his or her citizenship and relocated to live in the homelands, the Bantustans, semi-sovereign black territories that were in reality puppet states of the government in Pretoria. But this so-called white country could not function without black labor to produce its wealth, which meant black people had to be allowed to live near white areas in the townships, government-planned ghettos built to house black workers, like Soweto. The township was where you lived, but your status as a laborer was the only thing that permitted you to stay there. If your papers were revoked for any reason, you could be deported back to the homelands.

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To leave the township for work in the city, or for any other reason, you had to carry a pass with your ID number; otherwise you could be arrested. There was also a curfew: After a certain hour, blacks had to be back home in the township or risk arrest. My mother didn’t care. She was determined to never go home again. So she stayed in town, hiding and sleeping in public restrooms until she learned the rules of navigating the city from the other black women who had contrived to live there: prostitutes.

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Many of the prostitutes in town were Xhosa. They spoke my mother’s language and showed her how to survive. They taught her how to dress up in a pair of maid’s overalls to move around the city without being questioned. They also introduced her to white men who were willing to rent out flats in town. A lot of these men were foreigners, Germans and Portuguese who didn’t care about the law and were happy to sign a lease giving a prostitute a place to live and work in exchange for a steady piece on the side. My mom wasn’t interested in any such arrangement, but thanks to her job she did have money to pay rent. She met a German fellow through one of her prostitute friends, and he agreed to let her a flat in his name. She moved in and bought a bunch of maid’s overalls to wear. She was caught and arrested many times, for not having her ID on the way home from work, for being in a white area after hours. The penalty for violating the pass laws was thirty days in jail or a fine of fifty rand, nearly half her monthly salary. She would scrape together the money, pay the fine, and go right back about her business.

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My mom’s secret flat was in a neighborhood called Hillbrow. She lived in number 203. Down the corridor was a tall, brown-haired, brown-eyed Swiss/German expat named Robert. He lived in 206. As a former trading colony, South Africa has always had a large expatriate community. People find their way here. Tons of Germans. Lots of Dutch. Hillbrow at the time was the Greenwich Village of South Africa. It was a thriving scene, cosmopolitan and liberal. There were galleries and underground theaters where artists and performers dared to speak up and criticize the government in front of integrated crowds. There were restaurants and nightclubs, a lot of them foreign-owned, that served a mixed clientele, black people who hated the status quo and white people who simply thought it ridiculous. These people would have secret get-togethers, too, usually in someone’s flat or in empty basements that had been converted into clubs. Integration by its nature was a political act, but the get-togethers themselves weren’t political at all. People would meet up and hang out, have parties.

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Brecklyn J Brecklyn J (Oct 27 2021 12:21PM) : This shows how even though laws and restrictions were very tight, people still found ways around it. Not everyone was for apartheid and that's important to remember.
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Zone A Zone A (Apr 28 2022 12:50PM) : not everyone one was that important
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My mom threw herself into that scene. She was always out at some club, some party, dancing, meeting people. She was a regular at the Hillbrow Tower, one of the tallest buildings in Africa at that time. It had a nightclub with a rotating dance floor on the top floor. It was an exhilarating time but still dangerous. Sometimes the restaurants and clubs would get shut down, sometimes not. Sometimes the performers and patrons would get arrested, sometimes not. It was a roll of the dice. My mother never knew whom to trust, who might turn her in to the police. Neighbors would report on one another. The girlfriends of the white men in my mom’s block of flats had every reason to report a black woman—a prostitute, no doubt—living among them. And you must remember that black people worked for the government as well. As far as her white neighbors knew, my mom could have been a spy posing as a prostitute posing as a maid, sent into Hillbrow to inform on whites who were breaking the law. That’s how a police state works—everyone thinks everyone else is the police.

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Jessenia C Jessenia C (May 05 2022 1:20PM) : so your telling me that " white people " have more chances of working as a spy and not dark skin people ?
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:10PM) : I see a lot of things we see normal today are actually a tracker . ID , race filling when doing an job application online or even age restrictions . Sound normal but they carry a dark history
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Living alone in the city, not being trusted and not being able to trust, my mother started spending more and more time in the company of someone with whom she felt safe: the tall Swiss man down the corridor in 206. He was forty-six. She was twenty-four. He was quiet and reserved; she was wild and free. She would stop by his flat to chat; they’d go to underground get-togethers, go dancing at the nightclub with the rotating dance floor. Something clicked.

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 24 2022 12:59PM) : That was his father
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I know that there was a genuine bond and a love between my parents. I saw it. But how romantic their relationship was, to what extent they were just friends, I can’t say. These are things a child doesn’t ask. All I do know is that one day she made her proposal.

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“I want to have a kid,” she told him. “I don’t want kids,” he said.

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“I didn’t ask you to have a kid. I asked you to help me to have my kid. I just want the sperm from you.”

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“I’m Catholic,” he said. “We don’t do such things.”

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“You do know,” she replied, “that I could sleep with you and go away and you would never know if you had a child or not. But I don’t want that. Honor me with your yes so that I can live peacefully. I want a child of my own, and I want it from you. You will be able to see it as much as you like, but you will have no obligations. You don’t have to talk to it. You don’t have to pay for it. Just make this child for me.”

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Aissata T Aissata T (Dec 17 2020 10:13AM) : Reader response more

His mom is a rebel but in a good way. Most people would be scared to do what she did. She went after what she wanted and didn´t care what anybody thought.

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Zaade M Zaade M (Dec 18 2020 11:42AM) : Agreed more

I agree with this and its shown thru her actions thru the story. Most of this happened because she was stubborn. But that’s what made her a good person how stubborn she is and how she acts.

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Zaade M Zaade M (Dec 17 2020 1:44PM) : Compare/Contrast response more

Its hard to think that there was a time that black people have barely any rights. In the now all people of all races can get the same jobs or at least a good amount of jobs. But here black people can barely get any but in the least Trevor’s was the exception to the rule.

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Zone A Zone A (Apr 28 2022 12:51PM) : not everyone is important
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 10:45AM) : No wonder Trevor Noah is so amazing. He is the living embodiment of the word “bespoke”: custom-made, fully wanted and intended.
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 3:00AM) : use dialogue sections to break up denser paragraph sections
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Alex Y Alex Y (Oct 29 2021 3:01AM) : much easier to read
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Zone A Zone A (Apr 28 2022 12:52PM) : nice story with sweet words

For my mother’s part, the fact that this man didn’t particularly want a family with her, was prevented by law from having a family with her, was part of the attraction. She wanted a child, not a man stepping in to run her life. For my father’s part, I know that for a long time he kept saying no. Eventually he said yes. Why he said yes is a question I will never have the answer to.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:00PM) : why would she want a baby from him though
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Zone A Zone A (Apr 28 2022 12:55PM) : if she want a baby with him she should marry him because l can not give my spems and when you give birth the child will not know the father
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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Nov 06 2023 11:26AM) : This make me think of my mom because my mom never needed a man definitely not one to try to run her life,she just wanted a child or someone to love her.
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Nine months after that yes, on February 20, 1984, my mother checked into Hillbrow Hospital for a scheduled C-section delivery. Estranged from her family, pregnant by a man she could not be seen with in public, she was alone. The doctors took her up to the delivery room, cut open her belly, and reached in and pulled out a half-white, half-black child who violated any number of laws, statutes, and regulations—I was born a crime.

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When the doctors pulled me out there was an awkward moment where they said, “Huh. That’s a very light-skinned baby.” A quick scan of the delivery room revealed no man standing around to take credit.

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“Who is the father?” they asked.

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“His father is from Swaziland,” my mother said, referring to the tiny, landlocked kingdom in the west of South Africa.

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 24 2022 1:04PM) : Naaaaaah she was capping.
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They probably knew she was lying, but they accepted it because they needed an explanation. Under apartheid, the government labeled everything on your birth certificate: race, tribe, nationality. Everything had to be categorized. My mother lied and said I was born in KaNgwane, the semi-sovereign homeland for Swazi people living in South Africa. So my birth certificate doesn’t say that I’m Xhosa, which technically I am. And it doesn’t say that I’m Swiss, which the government wouldn’t allow. It just says that I’m from another country.

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Madison H Madison H (Oct 29 2021 11:33PM) : It is both good and bad that people didn't press more, its sad because there had to be a level of don't ask don't tell, and good because it meant his mother wouldn't have to relive all that.
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My father isn’t on my birth certificate. Officially, he’s never been my father. And my mother, true to her word, was prepared for him not to be involved. She’d rented a new flat for herself in Joubert Park, the neighborhood adjacent to Hillbrow, and that’s where she took me when she left the hospital. The next week she went to visit him, with no baby. To her surprise, he asked where I was. “You said that you didn’t want to be involved,” she said. And he hadn’t, but once I existed he realized he couldn’t have a son living around the corner and not be a part of my life. So the three of us formed a kind of family, as much as our peculiar situation would allow. I lived with my mom. We’d sneak around and visit my dad when we could.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:16PM) : This is so cute and im happy as a white man he took care of his responsability.a father means a lot on a kid life
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:00PM) : his mom can get arrested if they get caught
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Zone A Zone A (Apr 28 2022 12:57PM) : l dont think wht she did is bad [Edited]

Where most children are proof of their parents’ love, I was the proof of their criminality. The only time I could be with my father was indoors. If we left the house, he’d have to walk across the street from us. My mom and I used to go to Joubert Park all the time. It’s the Central Park of Johannesburg—beautiful gardens, a zoo, a giant chessboard with human-sized pieces that people would play. My mother tells me that once, when I was a toddler, my dad tried to go with us. We were in the park, he was walking a good bit away from us, and I ran after him, screaming, “Daddy! Daddy! Daddy!” People started looking. He panicked and ran away. I thought it was a game and kept chasing him.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 05 2020 10:40AM) : I think it’s funny how he chased his father around the park
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 12:59PM) : it must have been really tuff for him growing up knowing his parents will act like they don't know him just because his skin color is a crime
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Samani G Samani G (Oct 19 2023 7:39PM) : stupid laws more

(!) On page 27, What got me in confusion but a weird feeling is when two parents are a different race that had a mixed baby. I was a little disappointed to hear that Noah’s parents had to step away from their own child because of its color.

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I couldn’t walk with my mother, either; a light-skinned child with a black woman would raise too many questions. When I was a newborn, she could wrap me up and take me anywhere, but very quickly that was no longer an option. I was a giant baby, an enormous child. When I was one you’d have thought I was two. When I was two, you’d have thought I was four. There was no way to hide me.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 05 2020 10:40AM) : Wow he was a big baby
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My mom, same as she’d done with her flat and with her maid’s uniforms, found the cracks in the system. It was illegal to be mixed (to have a black parent and a white parent), but it was not illegal to be colored (to have two parents who were both colored). So my mom moved me around the world as a colored child. She found a crèche in a colored area where she could leave me while she was at work. There was a colored woman named Queen who lived in our block of flats. When we wanted to go out to the park, my mom would invite her to go with us. Queen would walk next to me and act like she was my mother, and my mother would walk a few steps behind, like she was the maid working for the colored woman. I’ve got dozens of pictures of me walking with this woman who looks like me but who isn’t my mother. And the black woman standing behind us who looks like she’s photobombing the picture, that’s my mom. When we didn’t have a colored woman to walk with us, my mom would risk walking me on her own. She would hold my hand or carry me, but if the police showed up she would have to drop me and pretend I wasn’t hers, like I was a bag of weed.

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Jiniah R Jiniah R (Dec 17 2020 12:07PM) : it's crazy how his mother couldn't even walk with her own child.
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Danielle H Danielle H (Dec 17 2020 12:15PM) : reader-response more

I agree because Trevor couldn’t walk with his own mother down the street to the park. But instead he walked with a lady name Queen that was in their neighborhood.

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Saniyah T Saniyah T (Dec 18 2020 12:00PM) : reader-response more

For realll! just because the color of their skin were different.

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Hope I Hope I (Dec 17 2020 12:21PM) : Compare and Contrast more

This also shows how racial justice was a problem for so long to the point of a child not being able to walk with his own mom. This was so unfair to many people.

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Jiniah R Jiniah R (Dec 18 2020 11:01AM) : I agree because it's really sad how people would look at Trevor's mother sideways if they walked anywhere together because they are two different complexions.
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Samani G Samani G (Oct 19 2023 7:41PM) : shameful more

(?) I don’t like if they had to go out, they would have to walk beside or behind their own child to pretend it’s not theirs. The child that they had would have to walk with the same race that the kid was like, which is Light-skinned. The mother is Black and the Father is White which made Noah Light-skinned.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Nov 05 2020 10:55AM) : A bag of weed.
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 12:57PM) : its sad how he was in danger all the time because he is mixed
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 1:16PM) : that probably was very painful to his mom

When I was born, my mother hadn’t seen her family in three years, but she wanted me to know them and wanted them to know me, so the prodigal daughter returned. We lived in town, but I would spend weeks at a time with my grandmother in Soweto, often during the holidays. I have so many memories from the place that in my mind it’s like we lived there, too.

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Soweto was designed to be bombed—that’s how forward-thinking the architects of apartheid were. The township was a city unto itself, with a population of nearly one million. There were only two roads in and out. That was so the military could lock us in, quell any rebellion. And if the monkeys ever went crazy and tried to break out of their cage, the air force could fly over and bomb the shit out of everyone. Growing up, I never knew that my grandmother lived in the center of a bull’s-eye.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 10:54AM) : I’m glad I saw the movie “Tsotsi”, because I can visualize the township from the memory of its images.
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In the city, as difficult as it was to get around, we managed. Enough people were out and about, black, white, and colored, going to and from work, that we could get lost in the crowd. But only black people were permitted in Soweto. It was much harder to hide someone who looked like me, and the government was watching much more closely. In the white areas you rarely saw the police, and if you did it was Officer Friendly in his collared shirt and pressed pants. In Soweto the police were an occupying army. They didn’t wear collared shirts. They wore riot gear. They were militarized. They operated in teams known as flying squads, because they would swoop in out of nowhere, riding in armored personnel carriers —hippos, we called them—tanks with enormous tires and slotted holes in the side of the vehicle to fire their guns out of. You didn’t mess with a hippo. You saw one, you ran. That was a fact of life. The township was in a constant state of insurrection; someone was always marching or protesting somewhere and had to be suppressed. Playing in my grandmother’s house, I’d hear gunshots, screams, tear gas being fired into crowds.

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Dirissa T Dirissa T (Dec 17 2020 10:39AM) : Surviving as a black south african woman was hard. You had to know the right people who to and not to trust at certain critical points.
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 1:23PM) : his situation was very difficult, he was too lightskin to stay with black people and too colored to be with white people
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My memories of the hippos and the flying squads come from when I was five or six, when apartheid was finally coming apart. I never saw the police before that, because we could never risk the police seeing me. Whenever we went to Soweto, my grandmother refused to let me outside. If she was watching me it was, “No, no, no. He doesn’t leave the house.” Behind the wall, in the yard, I could play, but not in the street. And that’s where the rest of the boys and girls were playing, in the street. My cousins, the neighborhood kids, they’d open the gate and head out and roam free and come back at dusk. I’d beg my grandmother to go outside.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:01PM) : its hard to think about how he was always in danger
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“Please. Please, can I go play with my cousins?” “No! They’re going to take you!”

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For the longest time I thought she meant that the other kids were going to steal me, but she was talking about the police. Children could be taken. Children were taken. The wrong color kid in the wrong color area, and the government could come in, strip your parents of custody, haul you off to an orphanage. To police the townships, the government relied on its network of impipis, the anonymous snitches who’d inform on suspicious activity. There were also the blackjacks, black people who worked for the police. My grandmother’s neighbor was a blackjack. She had to make sure he wasn’t watching when she smuggled me in and out of the house.

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My gran still tells the story of when I was three years old and, fed up with being a prisoner, I dug a hole under the gate in the driveway, wriggled through, and ran off. Everyone panicked. A search party went out and tracked me down. I had no idea how much danger I was putting everyone in. The family could have been deported, my gran could have been arrested, my mom might have gone to prison, and I probably would have been packed off to a home for colored kids.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:21PM) : Hes just like his mother BRAVE and smart . this is sad that people really had to live like this.
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So I was kept inside. Other than those few instances of walking in the park, the flashes of memory I have from when I was young are almost all indoors, me with my mom in her tiny flat, me by myself at my gran’s. I didn’t have any friends. I didn’t know any kids besides my cousins. I wasn’t a lonely kid—I was good at being alone. I’d read books, play with the toy that I had, make up imaginary worlds. I lived inside my head. I still live inside my head. To this day you can leave me alone for hours and I’m perfectly happy entertaining myself. I have to remember to be with people.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 09 2020 10:31AM) : Must have been really lonely
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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Nov 06 2023 11:34AM) : I was never a lonely kid i had siblings and i had a sister at home,but when i got older i realized that being alone wasn't bad that's why im so quite and shy. [Edited]
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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Nov 06 2023 11:31AM) : This is how i am because i like to be alone and i can entertain myself.
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Obviously, I was not the only child born to black and white parents during apartheid. Traveling around the world today, I meet other mixed South Africans all the time. Our stories start off identically. We’re around the same age. Their parents met at some underground party in Hillbrow or Cape Town. They lived in an illegal flat. The difference is that in virtually every other case they left. The white parent smuggled them out through Lesotho or Botswana, and they grew up in exile, in England or Germany or Switzerland, because being a mixed family under apartheid was just that unbearable.

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Once Mandela was elected we could finally live freely. Exiles started to return. I met my first one when I was around seventeen. He told me his story, and I was like, “Wait, what? You mean we could have left? That was an option?” Imagine being thrown out of an airplane. You hit the ground and break all your bones, you go to the hospital and you heal and you move on and finally put the whole thing behind you—and then one day somebody tells you about parachutes. That’s how I felt. I couldn’t understand why we’d stayed. I went straight home and asked my mom.

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Olivia C Olivia C (Oct 26 2021 4:35PM) : Diction more

Good storyteller

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“Why? Why didn’t we just leave? Why didn’t we go to Switzerland?”

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“Because I am not Swiss,” she said, as stubborn as ever. “This is my country. Why should I leave?”

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Kurt M Kurt M (Oct 27 2021 7:06PM) : All the dialogue between Trevor and his mother clearly illustrates her as a person. You can tell that she was a very fierce and independent woman just from their interactions.

South Africa is a mix of the old and the new, the ancient and the modern, and South African

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Christianity is a perfect example of this. We adopted the religion of our colonizers, but most people held on to the old ancestral ways, too, just in case. In South Africa, faith in the Holy Trinity exists quite comfortably alongside belief in witchcraft, in casting spells and putting curses on one’s enemies.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 10:58AM) : This is called syncretism, and it’s one of my favorite things to study and think about....how cultures choose what they need from one another to survive and thrive.

I come from a country where people are more likely to visit sangomas—shamans, traditional healers, pejoratively known as witch doctors—than they are to visit doctors of Western medicine. I come from a country where people have been arrested and tried for witchcraft—in a court of law. I’m not talking about the 1700s. I’m talking about five years ago. I remember a man being on trial for striking another person with lightning. That happens a lot in the homelands. There are no tall buildings, few tall trees, nothing between you and the sky, so people get hit by lightning all the time. And when someone gets killed by lightning, everyone knows it’s because somebody used Mother Nature to take out a hit. So if you had a beef with the guy who got killed, someone will accuse you of murder and the police will come knocking.

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“Mr. Noah, you’ve been accused of murder. You used witchcraft to kill David Kibuuka by causing him to be struck by lightning.”

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (Apr 28 2022 1:27PM) : Ayo what? That is craaaaaazy

“What is the evidence?”

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“The evidence is that David Kibuuka got struck by lightning and it wasn’t even raining.”

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And you go to trial. The court is presided over by a judge. There is a docket. There is a prosecutor. Your defense attorney has to prove lack of motive, go through the crime-scene forensics, present a staunch defense. And your attorney’s argument can’t be “Witchcraft isn’t real.” No, no, no. You’ll lose.

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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:26PM) : So out there people doesnt pretend its fake .
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3 TREVOR, PRAY

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I grew up in a world run by women. My father was loving and devoted, but I could only see him when and where apartheid allowed. My uncle Velile, my mom’s younger brother, lived with my grandmother, but he spent most of his time at the local tavern getting into fights.

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Ryan S Ryan S (Dec 17 2020 10:42AM) : Childhood/life more

Trevor grew up a little different then others with not having a father and the start of his life. He still had a good childhood even without his father being around but later meets him to fill that last piece of the puzzle to his life

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Dewry C Dewry C (Dec 07 2020 11:00AM) : he was mad at everybody in his house
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Paul A (Dec 07 2020 11:05AM) : Why do you say that he was mad at people in his house? What is your evidence from the text?
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Danielle H Danielle H (Dec 17 2020 12:19PM) : theme-response [Edited] more

The theme is gender roles and Trevor only had mostly woman in his life. The men are mostly working or put in jail

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AKUMANI S AKUMANI S (May 03 2022 12:52PM) : he was not get mad at everyone
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The only semi-regular male figure in my life was my grandfather, my mother’s father, who was a force to be reckoned with. He was divorced from my grandmother and didn’t live with us, but he was around. His name was Temperance Noah, which was odd since he was not a man of moderation at all. He was boisterous and loud. His nickname in the neighborhood was “Tat Shisha,” which translates loosely to “the smokin’ hot grandpa.” And that’s exactly who he was. He loved the ladies, and the ladies loved him. He’d put on his best suit and stroll through the streets of Soweto on random afternoons, making everybody laugh and charming all the women he’d meet. He had a big, dazzling smile with bright white teeth—false teeth. At home, he’d take them out and I’d watch him do that thing where he looked like he was eating his own face.

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 1:32PM) : lmao this is funny

We found out much later in life that he was bipolar, but before that we just thought he was eccentric. One time he borrowed my mother’s car to go to the shop for milk and bread. He disappeared and didn’t come home until late that night when we were way past the point of needing the milk or the bread. Turned out he’d passed a young woman at the bus stop and, believing no beautiful woman should have to wait for a bus, he offered her a ride to where she lived—three hours away. My mom was furious with him because he’d cost us a whole tank of petrol, which was enough to get us to work and school for two weeks.

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When he was up you couldn’t stop him, but his mood swings were wild. In his youth he’d been a boxer, and one day he said I’d disrespected him and now he wanted to box me. He was in his eighties. I was twelve. He had his fists up, circling me. “Let’s go, Trevah! Come on! Put your fists up! Hit me! I’ll show you I’m still a man! Let’s go!” I couldn’t hit him because I wasn’t about to hit my elder. Plus I’d never been in a fight and I wasn’t going to have my first one be with an eighty-year-old man. I ran to my mom, and she got him to stop. The day after his pugilistic rage, he sat in his chair and didn’t move or say a word all day.

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Temperance lived with his second family in the Meadowlands, and we visited them sparingly because my mom was always afraid of being poisoned. Which was a thing that would happen. The first family were the heirs, so there was always the chance they might get poisoned by the second family. It was like Game of Thrones with poor people. We’d go into that house and my mom would warn me.

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“Trevor, don’t eat the food.” “But I’m starving.”

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“No. They might poison us.”

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“Okay, then why don’t I just pray to Jesus and Jesus will take the poison out of the food?”

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“Trevor! Sun’qhela!

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So I only saw my grandfather now and then, and when he was gone the house was in the hands of women.

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In addition to my mom there was my aunt Sibongile; she and her first husband, Dinky, had two kids, my cousins Mlungisi and Bulelwa. Sibongile was a powerhouse, a strong woman in every sense, big-chested, the mother hen. Dinky, as his name implies, was dinky. He was a small man. He was abusive, but not really. It was more like he tried to be abusive, but he wasn’t very good at it. He was trying to live up to this image of what he thought a husband should be, dominant, controlling. I remember being told as a child, “If you don’t hit your woman, you don’t love her.” That was the talk you’d hear from men in bars and in the streets.

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Sharnae E Sharnae E (Nov 06 2023 11:42AM) : This make me think of my dad because he is controlling and he was trying to live up to a dad figure he thought he should be or how he was raised
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:06PM) : that's a dumb way of thinking
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AKUMANI S AKUMANI S (May 03 2022 12:55PM) : it not a good way
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Dinky was trying to masquerade as this patriarch that he wasn’t. He’d slap my aunt and hit her and she’d take it and take it, and then eventually she’d snap and smack him down and put him back in his place. Dinky would always walk around like, “I control my woman.” And you’d want to say, “Dinky, first of all, you don’t. Second of all, you don’t need to. Because she loves you.” I can remember one day my aunt had really had enough. I was in the yard and Dinky came running out of the house screaming bloody murder. Sibongile was right behind him with a pot of boiling water, cursing at him and threatening to douse him with it. In Soweto you were always hearing about men getting doused with pots of boiling water—often a woman’s only recourse. And men were lucky if it was water. Some women used hot cooking oil. Water was if the woman wanted to teach her man a lesson. Oil meant she wanted to end it.

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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 1:36PM) : oh wow, very aggressive, ill be scared to live around there

My grandmother Frances Noah was the family matriarch. She ran the house, looked after the kids, did the cooking and the cleaning. She’s barely five feet tall, hunched over from years in the factory, but rock hard and still to this day very active and very much alive. Where my grandfather was big and boisterous, my grandmother was calm, calculating, with a mind as sharp as anything. If you need to know anything in the family history, going back to the 1930s, she can tell you what day it happened, where it happened, and why it happened. She remembers it all.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:07PM) : she has a very good memory
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AKUMANI S AKUMANI S (May 03 2022 12:58PM) : she is vey good and has good memory
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My great-grandmother lived with us as well. We called her Koko. She was super old, well into her nineties, stooped and frail, completely blind. Her eyes had gone white, clouded over by cataracts. She couldn’t walk without someone holding her up. She’d sit in the kitchen next to the coal stove, bundled up in long skirts and head scarves, blankets over her shoulders. The coal stove was always on. It was for cooking, heating the house, heating water for baths. We put her there because it was the warmest spot in the house. In the morning someone would wake her and bring her to sit in the kitchen. At night someone would come take her to bed. That’s all she did, all day, every day. Sit by the stove. She was fantastic and fully with it. She just couldn’t see and didn’t move.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 10:08AM) : living like this every day is really hard
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 24 2022 10:10AM) : Like my dog
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ERNAIDA O ERNAIDA O (May 04 2022 10:38AM) : and she was happy with it, really impressive
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Koko and my gran would sit and have long conversations, but as a five-year-old I didn’t think of Koko as a real person. Since her body didn’t move, she was like a brain with a mouth. Our relationship was nothing but command prompts and replies, like talking to a computer.

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“Good morning, Koko.” “Good morning, Trevor.” “Koko, did you eat?” “Yes, Trevor.”

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“Koko, I’m going out.” “Okay, be careful.” “Bye, Koko.”

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“Bye, Trevor.”

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The fact that I grew up in a world run by women was no accident. Apartheid kept me away from my father because he was white, but for almost all the kids I knew on my grandmother’s block in Soweto, apartheid had taken away their fathers as well, just for different reasons. Their fathers were off working in a mine somewhere, able to come home only during the holidays. Their fathers had been sent to prison. Their fathers were in exile, fighting for the cause. Women held the community together. “Wathint’Abafazi Wathint’imbokodo!” was the chant they would rally to during the freedom struggle. “When you strike a woman, you strike a rock.” As a nation, we recognized the power of women, but in the home they were expected to submit and obey.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 09 2020 10:45AM) : I like how they portray women as very strong
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AKUMANI S AKUMANI S (May 03 2022 12:59PM) : she is very stong and brave
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Izirahh B Izirahh B (Oct 13 2023 10:20AM) : I love how they look up to women for all that they have done for them but its wrong how they did the fathers. And how much trauma the kids will undergo due to the wrong doings of the south African government.
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:36PM) : The goverment tried to keep women alone to make them be more control or stronger
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In Soweto, religion filled the void left by absent men. I used to ask my mom if it was hard for her to raise me alone without a husband. She’d reply, “Just because I live without a man doesn’t mean I’ve never had a husband. God is my husband.” For my mom, my aunt, my grandmother, and all the other women on our street, life centered on faith. Prayer meetings would rotate houses up and down the block based on the day. These groups were women and children only. My mom would always ask my uncle Velile to join, and he’d say, “I would join if there were more men, but I can’t be the only one here.” Then the singing and praying would start, and that was his cue to leave.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:10PM) : they were really faithful
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AKUMANI S AKUMANI S (May 03 2022 1:00PM) : she was very strong [Edited]
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For these prayer meetings, we’d jam ourselves into the tiny living area of the host family’s house and form a circle. Then we would go around the circle offering prayers. The grannies would talk about what was happening in their lives. “I’m happy to be here. I had a good week at work. I got a raise and I wanted to say thank you and praise Jesus.” Sometimes they’d pull out their Bible and say, “This scripture spoke to me and maybe it will help you.” Then there would be a bit of song. There was a leather pad called “the beat” that you’d strap to your palm, like a percussion instrument. Someone would clap along on that, keeping time while everyone sang, “Masango vulekani singene eJerusalema. Masango vulekani singene eJerusalema.

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That’s how it would go. Pray, sing, pray. Sing, pray, sing. Sing, sing, sing. Pray, pray, pray. Sometimes it would last for hours, always ending with an “amen,” and they could keep that “amen” going on for five minutes at least. “Ah-men. Ah-ah-ah-men. Ah-ah-ah-ah-men. Ahhhhhhhhahhhhhhhhhh-hahhhhhahhhhhhahhhhhmen. Meni-meni-meni. Men-men-men. Ahhhhhhhhhh-hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmennnnnnnnnnnnnnn-nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn-nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn-n.” Then everyone would say goodbye and go home. Next night, different house, same thing.

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 24 2022 1:20PM) : Have mercy on me, have mercy on my soul, don't let my heart turn cold.
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Tuesday nights, the prayer meeting came to my grandmother’s house, and I was always excited, for two reasons. One, I got to clap along on the beat for the singing. And two, I loved to pray. My grandmother always told me that she loved my prayers. She believed my prayers were more powerful, because I prayed in English. Everyone knows that Jesus, who’s white, speaks English. The Bible is in English. Yes, the Bible was not written in English, but the Bible came to South Africa in English so to us it’s in English. Which made my prayers the best prayers because English prayers get answered first. How do we know this? Look at white people. Clearly they’re getting through to the right person. Add to that Matthew 19:14. “Suffer little children to come unto me,” Jesus said, “for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.” So if a child is praying in English? To White Jesus? That’s a powerful combination right there. Whenever I prayed, my grandmother would say, “That prayer is going to get answered. I can feel it.”

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Jessenia C Jessenia C (May 05 2022 1:25PM) : praying is english doesnt really mean much because now matter how you pray it will always be the same
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Jessenia C Jessenia C (May 05 2022 1:27PM) : theirs a chance that grandma is telling him its a good idea cause she doesn't want to make him feel bad
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:12PM) : he really loved praying
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:13PM) : his grandmother was very religious
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Women in the township always had something to pray for—money problems, a son who’d been arrested, a daughter who was sick, a husband who drank. Whenever the prayer meetings were at our house, because my prayers were so good, my grandmother would want me to pray for everyone. She would turn to me and say, “Trevor, pray.” And I’d pray. I loved doing it. My grandmother had convinced me that my prayers got answered. I felt like I was helping people.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 11:10AM) : So many artists, singers, writers, comedians, started out in church....
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 12:47PM) : yes, prayer is the tool against the devil. more

yes, prayer is the tool against the devil.

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There is something magical about Soweto. Yes, it was a prison designed by our oppressors, but it also gave us a sense of self-determination and control. Soweto was ours. It had an aspirational quality that you don’t find elsewhere. In America the dream is to make it out of the ghetto. In Soweto, because there was no leaving the ghetto, the dream was to transform the ghetto.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 09 2020 10:48AM) : I like that , to transform and better it
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Jiniah R Jiniah R (Dec 17 2020 12:11PM) : Trevor grew up different from others. He saw things he didn't want to see and he went through things he probably didn't want to go through.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 12:50PM) : Transformation more

transforming the ghetto in Africa is like you are a small good because of the hardship.

For the million people who lived in Soweto, there were no stores, no bars, no restaurants. There were no paved roads, minimal electricity, inadequate sewerage. But when you put one million people together in one place, they find a way to make a life for themselves. A black-market economy rose up, with every type of business being run out of someone’s house: auto mechanics, day care, guys selling refurbished tires.

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Ciahnee B Ciahnee B (Dec 17 2020 12:12PM) : I feel as though this paragraph is similar to the world now. Due Covid-19 people lost their jobs, so people started to come up with small business being ran out of someones home.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 12:53PM) : if there were no stores and all these things how were they leaving comfortable.
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Kayne G Kayne G (Dec 17 2020 10:38AM) : There were no stores or anything in soweto ,so black people would have business being run in their houses
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Andrea G Andrea G (Oct 23 2023 2:11PM) : I like how they were given nothing but still came up with a way to live.

The most common were the spaza shops and the shebeens. The spaza shops were informal grocery stores. People would build a kiosk in their garage, buy wholesale bread and eggs, and then resell them piecemeal. Everyone in the township bought things in minute quantities because nobody had any money. You couldn’t afford to buy a dozen eggs at a time, but you could buy two eggs because that’s all you needed that morning. You could buy a quarter loaf of bread, a cup of sugar. The shebeens were unlawful bars in the back of someone’s house. They’d put chairs in their backyard and hang out an awning and run a speakeasy. The shebeens were where men would go to drink after work and during prayer meetings and most any other time of day as well.

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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 12:54PM) : what is kisk?
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People built homes the way they bought eggs: a little at a time. Every family in the township was allocated a piece of land by the government. You’d first build a shanty on your plot, a makeshift structure of plywood and corrugated iron. Over time, you’d save up money and build a brick wall. One wall. Then you’d save up and build another wall. Then, years later, a third wall and eventually a fourth. Now you had a room, one room for everyone in your family to sleep, eat, do everything. Then you’d save up for a roof. Then windows. Then you’d plaster the thing. Then your daughter would start a family. There was nowhere for them to go, so they’d move in with you. You’d add another corrugated-iron structure onto your brick room and slowly, over years, turn that into a proper room for them as well. Now your house had two rooms. Then three. Maybe four. Slowly, over generations, you’d keep trying to get to the point where you had a home.

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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 11:12AM) : I like the idea of the home growing around the family, as opposed to buying an empty shell to fill up.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 12:55PM) : why the government gave everyone free land?
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Cristy I Cristy I (May 10 2022 1:40PM) : The crazy part is theres people who still live like this nowadays . people in the islands
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My grandmother lived in Orlando East. She had a two-room house. Not a two-bedroom house. A two-room house. There was a bedroom, and then there was basically a living room/kitchen/everything-else room. Some might say we lived like poor people. I prefer “open plan.” My mom and I would stay there during school holidays. My aunt and cousins would be there whenever she was on the outs with Dinky. We all slept on the floor in one room, my mom and me, my aunt and my cousins, my uncle and my grandmother and my great-grandmother. The adults each had their own foam mattresses, and there was one big one that we’d roll out into the middle, and the kids slept on that.

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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 1:16PM) : the whole family had one room to do everything in
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 1:04PM) : why were they sleeping on the floor?
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We had two shanties in the backyard that my grandmother would rent out to migrants and seasonal workers. We had a small peach tree in a tiny patch on one side of the house and on the other side my grandmother had a driveway. I never understood why my grandmother had a driveway. She didn’t have a car. She didn’t know how to drive. Yet she had a driveway. All of our neighbors had driveways, some with fancy, cast-iron gates. None of them had cars, either. There was no future in which most of these families would ever have cars. There was maybe one car for every thousand people, yet almost everyone had a driveway. It was almost like building the driveway was a way of willing the car to happen. The story of Soweto is the story of the driveways. It’s a hopeful place.

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Sadly, no matter how fancy you made your house, there was one thing you could never aspire to improve: your toilet. There was no indoor running water, just one communal outdoor tap and one outdoor toilet shared by six or seven houses. Our toilet was in a corrugated-iron outhouse shared among the adjoining houses. Inside, there was a concrete slab with a hole in it and a plastic toilet seat on top; there had been a lid at some point, but it had broken and disappeared long ago. We couldn’t afford toilet paper, so on the wall next to the seat was a wire hanger with old newspaper on it for you to wipe. The newspaper was uncomfortable, but at least I stayed informed while I handled my business.

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The thing that I couldn’t handle about the outhouse was the flies. It was a long drop to the bottom, and they were always down there, eating on the pile, and I had an irrational, all-consuming fear that they were going to fly up and into my bum.

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One afternoon, when I was around five years old, my gran left me at home for a few hours to go run errands. I was lying on the floor in the bedroom, reading. I needed to go, but it was pouring down rain. I was dreading going outside to use the toilet, getting drenched running out there, water dripping on me from the leaky ceiling, wet newspaper, the flies attacking me from below. Then I had an idea. Why bother with the outhouse at all? Why not put some newspaper on the floor and do my business like a puppy? That seemed like a fantastic idea. So that’s what I did. I took the newspaper, laid it out on the kitchen floor, pulled down my pants, and squatted and got to it.

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When you shit, as you first sit down, you’re not fully in the experience yet. You are not yet a shitting person. You’re transitioning from a person about to shit to a person who is shitting. You don’t whip out your smartphone or a newspaper right away. It takes a minute to get the first shit out of the way and get in the zone and get comfortable. Once you reach that moment, that’s when it gets really nice.

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It’s a powerful experience, shitting. There’s something magical about it, profound even. I think God made humans shit in the way we do because it brings us back down to earth and gives us humility. I don’t care who you are, we all shit the same. Beyoncé shits. The pope shits. The Queen of England shits. When we shit we forget our airs and our graces, we forget how famous or how rich we are. All of that goes away.

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You are never more yourself than when you’re taking a shit. You have that moment where you realize, This is me. This is who I am. You can pee without giving it a second thought, but not so with shitting. Have you ever looked in a baby’s eyes when it’s shitting? It’s having a moment of pure self-awareness. The outhouse ruins that for you. The rain, the flies, you are robbed of your moment, and nobody should be robbed of that. Squatting and shitting on the kitchen floor that day, I was like, Wow. There are no flies. There’s no stress. This is really great. I’m really enjoying this. I knew I’d made an excellent choice, and I was very proud of myself for making it. I’d reached that moment where I could relax and be with myself. Then I casually looked around the room and I glanced to my left and there, just a few feet away, right next to the coal stove, was Koko.

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It was like the scene in Jurassic Park when the children turn and the T. rex is right there. Her eyes were wide open, cloudy white and darting around the room. I knew she couldn’t see me, but her nose was starting to crinkle—she could sense that something was wrong.

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I panicked. I was mid-shit. All you can do when you’re mid-shit is finish shitting. My only option was to finish as quietly and as slowly as I could, so that’s what I decided to do. Then: the softest plop of a little-boy turd on the newspaper. Koko’s head snapped toward the sound.

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Imani W Imani W (Oct 19 2023 2:09PM) : Why didn't he just tell his family he was shitting
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“Who’s there? Hallo? Hallo?!

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I froze. I held my breath and waited. “Who’s there?! Hallo?!”

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I kept quiet, waited, then started again.

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“Is somebody there?! Trevor, is that you?! Frances? Hallo? Hallo?”

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She started calling out the whole family. “Nombuyiselo? Sibongile? Mlungisi? Bulelwa? Who’s there? What’s happening?”

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It was like a game, like I was trying to hide and a blind woman was trying to find me using sonar. Every time she called out, I froze. There would be complete silence. “Who’s there?! Hallo?!” I’d pause, wait for her to settle back in her chair, and then I’d start up again.

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Finally, after what felt like forever, I finished. I stood up, took the newspaper —which is not the quietest thing—and I slowwwwwly folded it over. It crinkled. “Who’s there?” Again I paused, waited. Then I folded it over some more, walked over to the rubbish bin, placed my sin at the bottom, and gingerly covered it with the rest of the trash. Then I tiptoed back to the other room, curled up on the mattress on the floor, and pretended to be asleep. The shit was done, no outhouse involved, and Koko was none the wiser.

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Mission accomplished.

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An hour later the rain had stopped. My grandmother came home. The second she walked in, Koko called out to her.

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“Frances! Thank God you’re here. There’s something in the house.” “What was it?”

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“I don’t know, but I could hear it, and there was a smell.”

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My gran started sniffing the air. “Dear Lord! Yes, I can smell it, too. Is it a rat? Did something die? It’s definitely in the house.”

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They went back and forth about it, quite concerned, and then, as it was getting dark, my mother came home from work. The second she walked in, my gran called out to her.

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“Oh, Nombuyiselo! Nombuyiselo! There’s something in the house!” “What?! What do you mean?”

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Koko told her the story, the sounds, the smells.

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Then my mom, who has a keen sense of smell, started going around the kitchen, sniffing. “Yes, I can smell it. I can find it…I can find it…” She went to the rubbish bin. “It’s in here.” She lifted out the rubbish, pulled out the folded newspaper underneath, and opened it up, and there was my little turd. She showed it to gran.

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“Look!”

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“What?! How did it get there?!”

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Koko, still blind, still stuck in her chair, was dying to know what was happening.

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“What’s going on?!” she cried. “What’s going on?! Did you find it?!” “It’s shit,” Mom said. “There’s shit in the bottom of the dustbin.” “But how?!” Koko said. “There was no one here!”

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“Are you sure there was no one here?”

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“Yes. I called out to everyone. Nobody came.”

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My mother gasped. “We’ve been bewitched! It’s a demon!”

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For my mother, this was the logical conclusion. Because that’s how witchcraft works. If someone has put a curse on you or your home, there is always the talisman or totem, a tuft of hair or the head of a cat, the physical manifestation of the spiritual thing, proof of the demon’s presence.

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Once my mom found the turd, all hell broke loose. This was serious. They had evidence. She came into the bedroom.

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“Trevor! Trevor! Wake up!”

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“What?!” I said, playing dumb. “What’s going on?!” “Come! There’s a demon in the house!”

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She took my hand and dragged me out of bed. It was all hands on deck, time for action. The first thing we had to do was go outside and burn the shit. That’s what you do with witchcraft; the only way to destroy it is to burn the physical thing. We went out to the yard, and my mom put the newspaper with my little turd on the driveway, lit a match, and set it on fire. Then my mom and my gran stood around the burning shit, praying and singing songs of praise.

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The commotion didn’t stop there because when there’s a demon around, the whole community has to join together to drive it out. If you’re not part of the prayer, the demon might leave our house and go to your house and curse you. So we needed everyone. The alarm was raised. The call went out. My tiny old gran was out the gate, going up and down the block, calling to all the other old grannies for an emergency prayer meeting. “Come! We’ve been bewitched!”

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I stood there, my shit burning in the driveway, my poor aged grandmother tottering up and down the street in a panic, and I didn’t know what to do. I knew there was no demon, but there was no way I could come clean. The hiding I would have to endure? Good Lord. Honesty was never the best policy when it came to a hiding. I kept quiet.

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Moments later the grannies came streaming in with their Bibles, through the gate and up the driveway, a dozen or more at least. Everyone went inside. The house was packed. This was by far the biggest prayer meeting we’d ever had—the biggest thing that had ever happened in the history of our home, period. Everyone sat in the circle, praying and praying, and the prayers were strong. The grannies were chanting and murmuring and swaying back and forth, speaking in tongues. I was doing my best to keep my head low and stay out of it. Then my grandmother reached back and grabbed me, pulled me into the middle of the circle, and looked into my eyes.

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“Trevor, pray.”

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“Yes!” my mother said. “Help us! Pray, Trevor. Pray to God to kill the demon!”

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I was terrified. I believed in the power of prayer. I knew that my prayers worked. So if I prayed to God to kill the thing that left the shit, and the thing that left the shit was me, then God was going to kill me. I froze. I didn’t know what to do. But all the grannies were looking at me, waiting for me to pray, so I prayed, stumbling through as best I could.

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“Dear Lord, please protect us, um, you know, from whoever did this but, like, we don’t know what happened exactly and maybe it was a big misunderstanding and, you know, maybe we shouldn’t be quick to judge when we don’t know the whole story and, I mean, of course you know best, Heavenly Father, but maybe this time it wasn’t actually a demon, because who can say for certain, so maybe cut whoever it was a break…”

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It was not my best performance. Eventually I wrapped it up and sat back down. The praying continued. It went on for some time. Pray, sing, pray. Sing, pray, sing. Sing, sing, sing. Pray, pray, pray. Then everyone finally felt that the demon was gone and life could continue, and we had the big “amen” and everyone said good night and went home.

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That night I felt terrible. Before bed, I quietly prayed, “God, I am so sorry for all of this. I know this was not cool.” Because I knew: God answers your prayers. God is your father. He’s the man who’s there for you, the man who takes care of you. When you pray, He stops and He takes His time and He listens, and I had subjected Him to two hours of old grannies praying when I knew that with all the pain and suffering in the world He had more important things to deal with than my shit.

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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 1:20PM) : he believes in fate.
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When I was growing up we used to get American TV shows rebroadcast on our stations:

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Doogie Howser, M.D.; Murder, She Wrote; Rescue 911 with William Shatner. Most of them were dubbed into African languages. ALF was in Afrikaans. Transformers was in Sotho. But if you wanted to watch them in English, the original American audio would be simulcast on the radio. You could mute your TV and listen to that. Watching those shows, I realized that whenever black people were on-screen speaking in African languages, they felt familiar to me. They sounded like they were supposed to sound. Then I’d listen to them in simulcast on the radio, and they would all have black American accents. My perception of them changed. They didn’t feel familiar. They felt like foreigners.

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Language brings with it an identity and a culture, or at least the perception of it. A shared language says “We’re the same.” A language barrier says “We’re different.” The architects of apartheid understood this. Part of the effort to divide black people was to make sure we were separated not just physically but by language as well. In the Bantu schools, children were only taught in their home language. Zulu kids learned in Zulu. Tswana kids learned in Tswana. Because of this, we’d fall into the trap the government had set for us and fight among ourselves, believing that we were different.

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Brendaly N Brendaly N (Nov 09 2020 7:56AM) : Wow the government made them develop so much hate towards eachother and tried to make them different in some way so they’ll feel as though they are
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Katherine C Katherine C (Dec 17 2020 7:32AM) : Agree or Disagree more

I totally agree with you, its so unfair. Its not right.

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Iajanay O Iajanay O (Feb 09 2021 1:56PM) : i totally agree thats crazy how people had to hate each other g=just because of the government
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Kayne G Kayne G (Dec 17 2020 7:33AM) : The government made a language barrier,that divided the blacks and the white.The government also made the people develop a lot of hatred towards each other. [Edited]
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Jessenia C Jessenia C (May 05 2022 10:35AM) : just because you learn different that doesnt mean you are different
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Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 12:48PM) : language helps identify culture
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 10:17AM) : can language cause misunderstanding?
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Marcus G Marcus G (Dec 11 2023 6:39PM) : They were getting taught Different languages and they were only taught one from home.

The great thing about language is that you can just as easily use it to do the opposite: convince people that they are the same. Racism teaches us that we are different because of the color of our skin. But because racism is stupid, it’s easily tricked. If you’re racist and you meet someone who doesn’t look like you, the fact that he can’t speak like you reinforces your racist preconceptions: He’s different, less intelligent. A brilliant scientist can come over the border from Mexico to live in America, but if he speaks in broken English, people say, “Eh, I don’t trust this guy.”

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Katherine C Katherine C (Dec 17 2020 7:25AM) : Theme Response more

Race had an impact on the story. Race would change people thoughts. If you were white you are automatically a racist person. If you were black you were a threat to the community. And other different races. Race really made Trevor into who he is.

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Carmen B Carmen B (Dec 17 2020 7:41AM) : Theme response more

Trevor was telling a little story about how racism was stupid and it basically didn’t make sense. He learned that if you spoke many languages people would think you identified with that group. But if you couldn’t or didn’t respond in that specif language you looked suspicious because of the color of your skin.

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Arual D Arual D (Oct 29 2021 12:49PM) : racism sets a barrier between humans
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Jessica H Jessica H (Oct 15 2020 8:49AM) : I love this personification of racism.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 10:18AM) : racism is common in africa.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 10:20AM) : racism is everywhere in the world.
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Antonio S Antonio S (Nov 06 2023 11:05AM) : Racism is a big part of todays and the pasts societies
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Wesam A Wesam A (Apr 26 2022 10:32AM) : that is actually a good way of putting it [Edited]

“But he’s a scientist.”

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“In Mexican science, maybe. I don’t trust him.”

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Lilyana L Lilyana L (Oct 26 2021 2:51PM) : Ignorance more

This comment is ignorant and I find it very powerful. It shows a perfect example of a closed mindset.

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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 24 2022 1:24PM) : I definitely agree
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However, if the person who doesn’t look like you speaks like you, your brain short-circuits because your racism program has none of those instructions in the code. “Wait, wait,” your mind says, “the racism code says if he doesn’t look like me he isn’t like me, but the language code says if he speaks like me he…is like me? Something is off here. I can’t figure this out.”

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Jessenia C Jessenia C (May 05 2022 1:36PM) : when they speak like you or act like you that means they are hating you and dont want to see you achieve
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Imani W Imani W (Oct 23 2023 12:58PM) : Nowadays you can tell if someone is being racist to you because of your skin color even if they look like you.
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Mohammed A Mohammed A (May 09 2022 1:19PM) : yes, is true
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Saniyah T Saniyah T (Dec 18 2020 11:58AM) : compare/contrast [Edited] more

this is different from how it was back in the day when there was segregation between the blacks and whites. people wouldnt go off of how you speak but off of how you look. not saying that there isnt anymore racism going on because we still have BLM protests and stuff. but its weird that in south america they go off of language and not looks like people do in the US.

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Penelope D Penelope D (Oct 27 2021 4:35PM) : He is posing this as a question to relate to the audience and make us all actually think about what he's saying. We automatically assume that anyone not like us is the other, and by asking a question he makes sure the readers are engaged and thinking.
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Qyadir S Qyadir S (Dec 18 2020 11:12AM) : Theme more

The way Trevor Noah explained his story with detail and how he broke down racism and how it affected him in his life

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Christian M Christian M (Feb 08 2021 9:36AM) : hes talking about the law in south Africa
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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Feb 08 2021 9:41AM) : Interesting and Personal Connection more

I think this is very interesting because I see the same thing in big Hollywood movies, so I think we have a personal connection. I also think that is interesting because that makes the movie more exciting.

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Ashanti T Ashanti T (Feb 09 2021 9:49AM) : I agree with you and I find it very interesting that you compared the text with Hollywood movies.
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Isabel V Isabel V (Feb 08 2021 9:44AM) : Why were they so strict? more

Why was they so strict with everyone?they had no real reason to to keep everyone apart

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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 08 2021 3:13PM) : Control.
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Ashanti T Ashanti T (Feb 09 2021 9:45AM) : But why did they have to have contro?
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Emily V Emily V (Feb 08 2021 10:54AM) : I grew up in a home with very little exposure to popular culture. men were not allowed in my mothers house. songs about some guy grinding on a girl all night long? [Edited]
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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 08 2021 3:12PM) : Mmm more

Sounds like your mother and Trevor’s mother have some things in common .

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Emily V Emily V (Feb 08 2021 11:03AM) : why is the apartheid was convincing people to turn on each other? more

why is the apartheid was convincing people to turn on each other?

the way how Trever Noah is telling us his story is so interesting ! and helpful because he’s telling us things that we may have never know that happened

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Samuel R Samuel R (Feb 08 2021 3:10PM) : Divide and Conquer. more

It’s the oldest trick in the book

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Ziyair D Ziyair D (Mar 11 2021 9:26AM) : . more

I think this law was just so unfair because people should have the right to do date who they want

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Zoe M Zoe M (Oct 29 2021 1:27AM) : I liked Trevor's style of writing. He used a lot of dialogue which I think helped the story advance and drew readers in.
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Maxwel R Maxwel R (May 24 2022 1:07PM) : But if she said that they will treat her as Prostitute if she said that the father was swiss.
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