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Remarks by the President on Comprehensive Immigration Reform in El Paso, Texas
Chamizal National Memorial El Paso, Texas
1:21 P.M.
MDT
THE PRESIDENT: Hello, El Paso!
(Applause.)
Well, it is wonderful -- wonderful to be back with all of you in the Lone Star State.
(Applause.)
Everything is bigger in Texas.
(Applause.)
AUDIENCE MEMBER: We love you!
THE PRESIDENT: I love you back!
(Applause.)
Even the welcomes are bigger.
(Applause.)
So, in appreciation, I wanted to give a big policy speech outside on a really hot day.
(Laughter.)
Those of you who are still wearing your jackets, feel free to take them off.
I hope everybody is wearing sunscreen.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: We live here.
THE PRESIDENT: You say you live here?
You don’t need it, huh?
(Laughter.)
Well, it is a great honor to be here.
And I want to express my appreciation to all of you for taking the time to come out today.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: We love you!
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
(Applause.)
You know, about a week ago, I delivered a commencement address at Miami Dade Community College, which is one of the most diverse schools in the nation.
The graduates were proud that their class could claim heritage from 181 countries around the world -- 181 countries.
(Applause.)
Many of the students were immigrants themselves, coming to America with little more than the dream of their parents and the clothes on their back.
A handful had discovered only in adolescence or adulthood that they were undocumented.
But they worked hard and they gave it their all, and so they earned those diplomas.
And at the ceremony, 181 flags -- one for every nation that was represented -- was marched across the stage.
And each one was applauded by the graduates and the relatives with ties to those countries.
So when the Haitian flag went by, all the Haitian kids -- Haitian American kids shouted out.
And when the Guatemalan flag went by, all the kids of Guatemalan heritage shouted out.
And when the Ukrainian flag went by, I think one kid shouted out.
(Laughter.)
This was down in Miami.
(Laughter.)
If it had been in Chicago, there would have been more.
But then, the last flag, the American flag, came into view.
And everyone in the room erupted in applause.
Everybody cheered.
(Applause.)
So, yes, their parents and grandparents -- some of the graduates themselves -- had come from every corner of the globe.
But it was here that they had found opportunity.
It was here that they had a chance to contribute to the nation that is their home.
And it was a reminder of a simple idea, as old as America itself: E pluribus unum.
Out of many, one.
We define ourselves as a nation of immigrants -- a nation that welcomes those willing to embrace America’s ideals and America’s precepts.
That’s why millions of people, ancestors to most of us, braved hardship and great risk to come here -- so they could be free to work and worship and start a business and live their lives in peace and prosperity.
The Asian immigrants who made their way to California’s Angel Island.
The German and Scandinavians who settled across the Midwest.
The waves of Irish, and Italian, and Polish, and Russian, and Jewish immigrants who leaned against the railing to catch their first glimpse of the Statue of Liberty.
This flow of immigrants has helped make this country stronger and more prosperous.
(Applause.)
We can point to the genius of Einstein, the designs of I. M. Pei, the stories of Isaac Asimov, the entire industries that were forged by Andrew Carnegie.
And then when I think about immigration I think about the naturalization ceremonies that we’ve held at the White House for members of our military.
Nothing could be more inspiring.
Even though they were not yet citizens when they joined our military, these men and women signed up to serve.
We did one event at the White House and a young man named Granger Michael from Papua New Guinea, a Marine who had been deployed to Iraq three times, was there.
And you know what he said about becoming an American citizen?
He said, “I might as well.
I love this country already.”
That’s all he said.
Marines aren’t big on speeches.
(Laughter.)
Another was a woman named Perla Ramos who was born and raised in Mexico and came to the United States shortly after 9/11, and joined the Navy.
And she said, “I take pride in our flag and the history we write day by day.”
That’s the promise of this country -- that anyone can write the next chapter in our story.
It doesn’t matter where you come from -- (applause) -- it doesn’t matter where you come from; it doesn’t matter what you look like; it doesn’t matter what faith you worship.
What matters is that you believe in the ideals on which we were founded; that you believe that all of us are created equal, endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights.
(Applause.)
All of us deserve our freedoms and our pursuit of happiness.
In embracing America, you can become American.
That is what makes this country great.
That enriches all of us.
And yet, at the same time, we’re here at the border today -- (applause) -- we’re here at the border because we also recognize that being a nation of laws goes hand in hand with being a nation of immigrants.
This, too, is our heritage.
This, too, is important.
And the truth is, we’ve often wrestled with the politics of who is and who isn’t allowed to come into this country.
This debate is not new.
At times, there has been fear and resentment directed towards newcomers, especially in hard economic times.
And because these issues touch deeply on what we believe, touch deeply on our convictions -- about who we are as a people, about what it means to be an American -- these debates often elicit strong emotions.
That’s one reason it’s been so difficult to reform our broken immigration system.
When an issue is this complex, when it raises such strong feelings, it’s easier for politicians to defer until the problem the next election.
And there’s always a next election.
So we’ve seen a lot of blame and a lot of politics and a lot of ugly rhetoric around immigration.
And we’ve seen good faith efforts from leaders of both parties -- by the way, I just noticed, those of you who have chairs, if you want to sit down, feel free.
There’s no rule about having to stand when I’m --
AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- we love you!
(Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: But we’ve seen leaders of both parties who try to work on this issue, but then their efforts fell prey to the usual Washington games.
And all the while, we’ve seen the mounting consequences of decades of inaction.
Today, there are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants here in the United States.
Some crossed the border illegally.
Others avoid immigration laws by overstaying their visas.
Regardless of how they came, the overwhelming majority of these folks are just trying to earn a living and provide for their families.
(Applause.)
But we have to acknowledge they’ve broken the rules.
They’ve cut in front of the line.
And what is also true is that the presence of so many illegal immigrants makes a mockery of all those who are trying to immigrate legally.
Also, because undocumented immigrants live in the shadows, where they’re vulnerable to unscrupulous businesses that skirt taxes, and pay workers less than the minimum wage, or cut corners with health and safety laws, this puts companies who follow the rules, and Americans who rightly demand the minimum wage or overtime or just a safe place to work, it puts those businesses at a disadvantage.
Think about it.
Over the past decade, even before the recession hit, middle-class families were struggling to get by as the costs went up for everything, from health care, to college tuition, to groceries, to gas.
Their incomes didn’t go up with those prices.
We’re seeing it again right now with gas prices.
So one way to strengthen the middle class in America is to reform the immigration system so that there is no longer a massive underground economy that exploits a cheap source of labor while depressing wages for everybody else.
I want incomes for middle-class families to rise again.
(Applause.)
I want prosperity in this country to be widely shared.
(Applause.)
I want everybody to be able to reach that American dream.
And that’s why immigration reform is an economic imperative.
It’s an economic imperative.
(Applause.)
And reform will also help to make America more competitive in the global economy.
Today, we provide students from around the world with visas to get engineering and computer science degrees at our top universities.
(Applause.)
But then our laws discourage them from using those skills to start a business or a new industry here in the United States.
Instead of training entrepreneurs to stay here, we train them to create jobs for our competition.
That makes no sense.
In a global marketplace, we need all the talent we can attract, all the talent we can get to stay here to start businesses -- not just to benefit those individuals, but because their contribution will benefit all Americans.
Look at Intel, look at Google, look at Yahoo, look at eBay.
All those great American companies, all the jobs they’ve created, everything that has helped us take leadership in the high-tech industry, every one of those was founded by, guess who, an immigrant.
(Applause.)
So we don’t want the next Intel or the next Google to be created in China or India.
We want those companies and jobs to take root here.
(Applause.)
Bill Gates gets this.
He knows a little something about the high-tech industry.
He said, “The United States will find it far more difficult to maintain its competitive edge if it excludes those who are able and willing to help us compete.”
So immigration is not just the right thing to do.
It’s smart for our economy.
It’s smart for our economy.
(Applause.)
And it’s for this reason that businesses all across America are demanding that Washington finally meet its responsibilities to solve the immigration problem.
Everybody recognizes the system is broken.
The question is, will we finally summon the political will to do something about it?
And that’s why we’re here at the border today.
And I want to say I am joined today by an outstanding Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, who’s been working tirelessly on this issue.
(Applause.)
Our commissioner who’s working diligently on border issues, Alan Bersin, is there, and we appreciate him -- Bersin.
(Applause.)
So they’re doing outstanding work.
And in recent years, among one of the greatest impediments to reform were questions about border security.
And these were legitimate concerns.
What was true was a lack of manpower and a lack of resources at the border, combined with the pull of jobs and ill-considered enforcement once folks were in the country.
All this contributed to a growing number of undocumented people living in the United States.
And these concerns helped unravel a bipartisan coalition that we had forged back when I was in the United States Senate.
So in the years since, “borders first, borders first,” that's become the common refrain, even among those who were previously supportive of comprehensive immigration reform.
But over the last two years, thanks to the outstanding work of Janet and Alan and everybody who’s down here working at the border, we’ve answered those concerns.
Under their leadership, we have strengthened border security beyond what many believed was possible.
They wanted more agents at the border.
Well, we now have more boots on the ground on the southwest border than at any time in our history.
(Applause.)
The Border Patrol has 20,000 agents -- more than twice as many as there were in 2004.
It’s a build-up that began under President Bush and that we’ve continued, and I had a chance to meet some of these outstanding agents, and actually saw some of them on horseback who looked pretty tough.
(Laughter.)
So we put the agents here.
Then they wanted a fence.
Well, the fence is --
AUDIENCE: Booo!
THE PRESIDENT: The fence is now basically complete.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Tear it down!
THE PRESIDENT: Then we’ve gone further.
We tripled the number of intelligence analysts working at the border.
I’ve deployed unmanned aerial vehicles to patrol the skies from Texas to California.
We have forged a partnership with Mexico to fight the transnational criminal organizations that have affected both of our countries.
(Applause.)
And for the first time -- for the first time we’re screening 100 percent of southbound rail shipments to seize guns and money going south even as we go after drugs that are coming north.
(Applause.)
So, here’s the point.
I want everybody to listen carefully to this.
We have gone above and beyond what was requested by the very Republicans who said they supported broader reform as long as we got serious about enforcement.
All the stuff they asked for, we’ve done.
But even though we’ve answered these concerns, I’ve got to say I suspect there are still going to be some who are trying to move the goal posts on us one more time.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: They’re racist!
THE PRESIDENT: You know, they said we needed to triple the Border Patrol.
Or now they’re going to say we need to quadruple the Border Patrol.
Or they’ll want a higher fence.
Maybe they’ll need a moat.
(Laughter.)
Maybe they want alligators in the moat.
(Laughter.)
They’ll never be satisfied.
And I understand that.
That’s politics.
But the truth is the measures we’ve put in place are getting results.
Over the past two and a half years, we’ve seized 31 percent more drugs, 75 percent more currency, 64 percent more weapons than ever before.
(Applause.)
And even as we have stepped up patrols, apprehensions along the border have been cut by nearly 40 percent from two years ago.
That means far fewer people are attempting to cross the border illegally.
And also, despite a lot of breathless reports that have tagged places like El Paso as dangerous, violent crime in southwest border counties has dropped by a third.
El Paso and other cities and towns along this border are consistently among the safest in the nation.
(Applause.)
Of course, we shouldn’t accept any violence or crime.
And we’ve always got more work to do.
But this progress is important and it’s not getting reported on.
And we’re also going beyond the border.
Beyond the border, we’re going after employers who knowingly exploit people and break the law.
(Applause.)
And we are deporting those who are here illegally.
And that’s a tough issue.
It’s a source of controversy.
But I want to emphasize we’re not doing it haphazardly.
We’re focusing our limited resources and people on violent offenders and people convicted of crimes -- not just families, not just folks who are just looking to scrape together an income.
And as a result, we’ve increased the removal of criminals by 70 percent.
(Applause.)
That’s not to ignore the real human toll of a broken immigration system.
Even as we recognize that enforcing the law is necessary, we don’t relish the pain that it causes in the lives of people who are just trying to get by and get caught up in the system.
And as long as the current laws are on the books, it’s not just hardened felons who are subject to removal, but sometimes families who are just trying to earn a living, or bright, eager students, or decent people with the best of intentions.
(Applause.)
And sometimes when I talk to immigration advocates, they wish I could just bypass Congress and change the law myself.
But that’s not how a democracy works.
What we really need to do is to keep up the fight to pass genuine, comprehensive reform.
That is the ultimate solution to this problem.
That's what I’m committed to doing.
(Applause.)
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, we can!
Yes, we can!
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, we can.
We can do it.
(Applause.)
AUDIENCE: Yes, we can!
Yes, we can!
Yes, we can!
THE PRESIDENT: The most significant step we can now take to secure the borders is to fix the system as a whole so that fewer people have the incentive to enter illegally in search of work in the first place.
This would allow agents to focus on the worst threats on both of our -- both sides of our borders, from drug traffickers to those who would come here to commit acts of violence or terror.
That’s where our focus should be.
So, El Paso, the question is whether those in Congress who previously walked away in the name of enforcement are now ready to come back to the table and finish the work that we’ve started.
(Applause.)
We’ve got to put the politics aside.
And if we do, I’m confident we can find common ground.
Washington is lagging behind the country on this.
There is already a growing coalition of leaders across America who don’t always see eye-to-eye, but are coming together on this issue.
They see the harmful consequences of a broken immigration system for their businesses and for their communities, and they understand why we need to act.
There are Democrats and Republicans, people like former Republican Senator Mel Martinez; former Bush administration Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; leaders like Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York; evangelical ministers like Leith Anderson and Bill Hybels; police chiefs from across the nation; educators; advocates; labor unions; chambers of commerce; small business owners; Fortune 500 CEOs.
I mean, one CEO had this to say about reform: “American ingenuity is a product of the openness and diversity of this society.
Immigrants have made America great as the world leader in business, in science, higher education and innovation.”
You know who that leader was?
Rupert Murdoch, who owns FOX News, and is an immigrant himself.
I don’t know if you’re familiar with Rupert Murdoch’s views, but let’s just say he doesn’t have an Obama sticker on his car.
(Laughter.)
But he agrees with me on this.
(Applause.)
So there is a consensus around fixing what’s broken.
And now we need Congress to catch up.
Now we need to come together around reform that reflects our values as a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants; reform that demands that everybody take responsibility.
So what would comprehensive reform look like?
First, we know that government has a threshold responsibility to secure our borders and enforce the law.
And that’s what Janet and all her folks are doing.
That’s what they’re doing.
(Applause.)
Second, businesses have to be held accountable if they exploit undocumented workers.
(Applause.)
Third, those who are here illegally, they have a responsibility as well.
So they broke the law, and that means they’ve got to pay their taxes, they’ve got to pay a fine, they’ve got to learn English.
And they’ve got to undergo background checks and a lengthy process before they get in line for legalization.
That’s not too much to ask.
(Applause.)
And fourth, stopping illegal immigration also depends on reforming our outdated system of legal immigration.
(Applause.)
We should make it easier for the best and the brightest to not only stay here, but also to start businesses and create jobs here.
In recent years, a full 25 percent of high-tech startups in the U.S. were founded by immigrants.
That led to 200,000 jobs here in America.
I’m glad those jobs are here.
I want to see more of them created in this country.
We need to provide them the chance.
(Applause.)
We need to provide our farms a legal way to hire workers that they rely on, and a path for those workers to earn legal status.
(Applause.)
And our laws should respect families following the rules -- reuniting them more quickly instead of splitting them apart.
(Applause.)
Today, the immigration system not only tolerates those who break the rules, but it punishes folks who follow the rules.
While applications -- while applicants wait for approval, for example, they’re often forbidden from visiting the United States.
Even husbands and wives may have to spend years apart.
Parents can’t see their children.
I don’t believe the United States of America should be in the business of separating families.
That’s not right.
That’s not who we are.
We can do better than that.
(Applause.)
And we should stop punishing innocent young people for the actions of their parents.
(Applause.)
We should stop denying them the chance to earn an education or serve in the military.
And that’s why we need to pass the DREAM Act.
(Applause.)
Now, we passed the DREAM Act through the House last year when Democrats were in control.
But even though it received a majority of votes in the Senate, it was blocked when several Republicans who had previously supported the DREAM Act voted no.
That was a tremendous disappointment to get so close and then see politics get in the way.
And as I gave that commencement at Miami Dade, it broke my heart knowing that a number of those promising, bright students -- young people who worked so hard and who speak about what’s best in America -- are at risk of facing the agony of deportation.
These are kids who grew up in this country.
They love this country.
They know no other place to call home.
The idea that we’d punish them is cruel.
It makes no sense.
We’re a better nation than that.
(Applause.)
So we’re going to keep fighting for the DREAM Act.
We’re going to keep up the fight for reform.
(Applause.)
And that’s where you come in.
I’m going to do my part to lead a constructive and civil debate on these issues.
And we’ve already had a series of meetings about this at the White House in recent weeks.
We’ve got leaders here and around the country helping to move the debate forward.
But this change ultimately has to be driven by you, the American people.
You’ve got to help push for comprehensive reform, and you’ve got to identify what steps we can take right now -- like the DREAM Act, like visa reform -- areas where we can find common ground among Democrats and Republicans and begin to fix what’s broken.
So I’m asking you to add your voices to this debate.
You can sign up to help at whitehouse.gov. We need Washington to know that there is a movement for reform that’s gathering strength from coast to coast.
That’s how we’ll get this done.
That’s how we can ensure that in the years ahead we are welcoming the talents of all who can contribute to this country and that we’re living up to the basic American idea that you can make it here if you try.
(Applause.)
That’s the idea that gave hope to José Hernández.
Is José here?
Where’s -- José is right over there.
(Applause.)
I want you to hear -- I want you to think about this story.
José’s parents were migrant farm workers.
And so, growing up, he was too.
He was born in California, though he could have just as easily been born on the other side of the border, if it had been a different time of year, because his family moved around with the seasons.
So two of his siblings were actually born in Mexico.
So they traveled a lot, and José joined his parents picking cucumbers and strawberries.
And he missed part of school when they returned to Mexico each winter.
José didn’t learn English until he was 12 years old.
But you know what, José was good at math and he liked math.
And the nice thing is that math was the same in every school, and it’s the same in Spanish as it is in English.
So José studied, and he studied hard.
And one day, he’s standing in the fields, collecting sugar beets, and he heard on a transistor radio that a man named Franklin Chang-Diaz -- a man with a surname like his -- was going to be an astronaut for NASA.
So José decided -- right there in the field, he decided -- well, I could be an astronaut, too.
So José kept on studying, and he graduated high school.
And he kept on studying, and he earned an engineering degree.
And he kept on studying, and he earned a graduate degree.
And he kept on working hard, and he ended up at a national laboratory, helping to develop a new kind of digital medical imaging system.
And a few years later, he found himself more than 100 miles above the surface of the Earth, staring out of the window of the shuttle Discovery, and he was remembering the boy in the California fields with that crazy dream that in America everything is possible.
(Applause.)
Think about that, El Paso.
That’s the American Dream right there.
(Applause.)
That's what we’re fighting for.
We are fighting for every boy and every girl like José with a dream and potential that's just waiting to be tapped.
We are fighting to unlock that promise, and all that holds not just for their futures, but for America’s future.
That's why we’re going to get this done.
And that's why I’m going to need your help.
Thank you.
God bless you.
And may God bless the United States of America.
(Applause.)
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Dan Doernberg(Jan 19 2012 8:47AM):
About this dialogue and its participants
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Fairness.com is exploring use of NowComment as a tool for public policy discussion; this was our first try. We invited a number of professors, researchers, and national organizations who all closely follow (and in some cases advocate for) various approaches to immigration reform to comment on this speech.
Those who graciously contributed comments are (in alphabetical order):
Prof. Allert Brown-Gort, Associate Director Institute for Latino Studies (University of Notre Dame)
Michelle Mittelstadt, Director of Communications Migration Policy Institute
Juan Pedroza, Research Associate Urban Institute
Mark Silverman, Director of Immigrant Policy Immigrant Legal Resource Center
Jessica Vaughan, Director of Policy Studies Center for Immigration Studies
Michele Waslin, Senior Policy Analyst American Immigration Council
Julian Teixeira, Director of Communications for National Council of La Raza, also passed on his organization’s brief summarizing its position on immigration reform.
We ran into a number of logistical and coordination problems on this project, the most significant being choosing the period Thanksgiving through New Years to undertake it. Lessons learned, look for our next efforts soon!
Special thanks to Sheeva Nesva, our Fall 2011 intern, for researching the topic and helping coordinate the project.
Allert Brown-Gort(Dec 01 2011 12:12PM):
Interesting that he fails to mention El Paso del Norte
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It is striking that being in El Paso he mentions Ellis Island and Angel Island, but totally neglects to mention that El Paso was the gateway for Mexican migration to the U.S. (or to what would later become the U.S.) from the 17th century to the mid 20th century.
Allert Brown-Gort(Dec 01 2011 12:22PM):
This ignores one of the principal problems: There is no line in any real sense.
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If we are speaking about the bulk of the undocumented immigrants, there is no line to which they can realistically subscribe. That is, there was until recently, a great deal of demand for their labor, but not really any ordered mechanism for them to enter and access the jobs. If we recognize this type of immigration to be responding to economic factors, then we must recognize that supply will come to balance with demand. If our immigration laws do not recognize (and so respond to) the fundamental nature of this proposition all other efforts are doomed to fail.
Juan Pedroza(Dec 14 2011 12:32PM):
Cutting the line?
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This soundbite is tempting and will continue to shape discussions of immigration into the forseeable future. We should not, however, describe the process of migration in such simplistic terms. After all, we’re not talking about a lunch line or a grocery story checkout. From my point of view, unauthorized migrants who come without a formal invitation (or overstay an intiial invitation) settle in communities that welcome their labor, time, and talents.
Michele Waslin(Jan 03 2012 2:12PM):
what line?
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I agree. We need the president and others to state more clearly that there simply is no line for most unauthorized immigrants. We can’t have a constructive conversation about reforming the immigration system unless everyone understands the current system.
Michelle Mittelstadt(Dec 02 2011 3:45PM):
We need all the talent we can attract
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That’s a very important point. Another important point, and one that is often overlooked, is that the country needs to maximize the talents of the immigrants who have already come to the United States. There are more than 1.5 million college-educated legal immigrants in the United States who are underemployed or unemployed because they cannot obtain work at their skill level. The problem of ‘brain waste’ or lack of recognition of educational and professional credentials obtained abroad is a significant one. California, New York, and Illinois are among the states examining credential recognition; the focus, however, remains at a more ad hoc level.
Michele Waslin(Nov 16 2011 9:56AM):
focus on criminals
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I think it’s a positive step that the Administration has prioritized serious criminals. However, in practice, many of the “criminals” deported have been convicted of a traffic violation or some other minor offense. And many others have no criminal conviction at all. Programs like Secure Communities have identified these immigrants for ICE to deport. The Administration needs to re-visit Secure Communities and ensure that it is in line with its stated priorities and that it truly focuses on serious convicted criminals.
Mark Silverman(Nov 21 2011 1:04PM):
President Obama’s administration is deporting more immigrants than the Bush administration and any time in recent history.
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So this and the prior endorsement rings somewhat hollow. The Obama Administration needs to reduce not increase the separation of families through deportation
Michele Waslin(Nov 16 2011 10:00AM):
state and local laws
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Inaction in Congress has also resulted in harsh anti-immigrant laws at the state and local level, including the new Alabama law which is having a devastating impact on the state’s economy as well as on the immigrant community.
Jessica Vaughan(Nov 18 2011 9:47AM):
That¹s what they're doing
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The President would be hard pressed to find many people, especially in law enforcement, who agree that the border is secure and the law is being enforced. In fact, the GAO has reported that only 15% of the southwest border is fully controlled and only 44% is partially controlled. The rest is not controlled. In addition, the Obama administration has relaxed enforcement of immigration laws in the interior. For example, the number of deportations (or removals), which was rising steadily for the last decade, has leveled off, and the number of apprehensions by ICE in the interior has declined by 20% in recent years. Worksite arrests have dropped by 70%. And, the administration has announced that it intends to remove only those illegal aliens who commit other serious crimes, and has suspended enforcement action against tens of thousands of illegal aliens who have been apprehended through programs such as Secure Communities and 287g. Few observers would characterize the policies of the Obama administration as aggressive or tough.
Jessica Vaughan(Nov 18 2011 9:42AM):
Employer responsibilities
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In addition, businesses have to be held accountable if they knowingly hire illegal workers. The Obama administration’s worksite audit program has resulted mainly in fines for paperwork violations, with the majority of those who are found to have hired suspect workers getting off with warnings, even if they hired large numbers of illegal workers. And, since ICE do not pursue charges against illegal workers, they are free to stay and continue working. This harms job prospects for the millions of U.S. citizen and legal immigraant workers who are seeking work in those occupations.
Jessica Vaughan(Nov 18 2011 8:24AM):
With this speech, the President is attempting an impossible high wire act.
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He misrepresents the policies and accomplishments of his immigration agencies and their leaders, in order to make it appear that they are tough on immigration enforcement, and to support his claim that it is time to enact the policies he supports, which include increases in legal immigration and an amnesty for illegal immigrants. However, the President clearly does not want to sound so tough as to alienate some of his core supporters who favor more lenient policies. He tries to pre-empt criticism of his administration¹s performance by accusing those skeptics of ³moving the goal posts² and making unreasonable demands. It should not be surprising that this speech fell flat, and failed to convince most Americans, either that illegal immigration is under control or that it would be a good time to increase immigration and legalize the huge population of illegal immigrants.
Mark Silverman(Nov 27 2011 9:13PM):
President Obama eloquently lays out the reasons why immigration reform, including a legalization component, is good for all of us, our economy and our society. However, this has a somewhat hollow ring to it...
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since it’s virtually impossible that Congress will enact any immigration reform or even the DREAM Act until 2013 at the very earliest. After the November, 2012 election we will probably know whether there is a realistic possibility of such reform before 2015.
Allert Brown-Gort(Dec 01 2011 12:06PM):
This speech was not helpful in terms of understanding what must be done to resolve the current debate.
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In terms of understanding the current problems around immigration, the President’s speech was not very helpful, in that it was essentially a collection of platitudes that offered little in terms of ideas for really moving forward on this topic. He spoke in El Paso, so he was clearly trying to send a message to the Latino community, but his need to also demonstrate that the border has been strengthened meant that the message was mixed at best, and so it is not clear if it was even successful as a political act. It is instructive that Mexico is not mentioned until paragraph 22. Perhaps the most disappointing is that President Obama relies in part on conflating “high value-added” immigration (i.e. the highly educated and/or those with significant monetary means) with the type of immigrants who form the bulk of the undocumented immigrants. While understandable if the object is to increase support for immigration, it is unfortunate because it takes away clarity from the possible solutions. For example, he only ever indirectly mentions demand in the US economy for these workers (paragraph 41), and to the extent that he mentions employers, the implicit assumption is that they are employing these immigrants because they are unscrupulous and wish to exploit their workers. While I have no doubt that this type of employers exist, we should be careful in thinking that this is the only reason businesses hire the undocumented.
Julian Teixeira(Dec 03 2011 2:07AM):
La Raza's views on the context of, and solutions for, immigration reform
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THECONTEXT
The nation’s immigration system is in urgent need of reform that restores dignity and the rule of law and rejects a status quo that does neither. Congressional failure to enact reform has led to piecemeal measures that are introducing greater chaos into an already broken system, particularly those enacted at the state and local levels, which lack jurisdiction over immigration. Alarmingly, such measures, combined with the toxic tone of the immigration debate, have also fomented an environment of intolerance against immigrants, regardless of immigration status, and against Hispanics in general, making this a defining civil rights issue for the Latino community.
The enactment of piecemeal laws that deal with immigration has been ineffective in reducing the size of the undocumented population. Now forced more deeply into the shadows, this population is more susceptible to exploitation by unscrupulous employers to the detriment of all workers. While dysfunctional legal immigration policies keep families apart and legal workers out, heavy handed enforcement operations have terrorized communities and led to the unlawful detention of legal immigrants and citizens.
It is time for the federal government to accept its responsibility and exercise leadership to fix these failed policies. The country needs real solutions that are aligned with America s best values and traditions.
THESOLUTION
In reality, there is much consensus around solutions to the immigration issue. Poll after poll demonstrates that the American public is in a much more pragmatic place than Congress has been on this issue. This has been corroborated further in recent election cycles, which showed that voters rejected leading anti-immigrant candidates. Voters support a comprehensive overhaul of our broken system that restores the rule of law and includes legalization and smart enforcement.
NCLR (National Council of La Raza) supports a workable and humane immigration system that promotes legality, serves the national interest, and upholds the Constitution and our values. To achieve those goals, reform must:
* Restore the rule of law through a two-pronged approach that includes earned legalization and sensible enforcement. Neither of these measures alone can restore order to the system. * Preserve the rule of law by creating workable legal immigration channels that uphold family unity and protect workers rights. * Strengthen the fabric of America by adopting proactive measures that advance the successful integration of new immigrants.
The sense of urgency and possibility for real change in immigration are stronger than ever. A constructive debate and smart solutions are needed to move the country forward. For more information on NCLR s work on immigration, visit http://www.nclr.org/immigration .
Juan Pedroza(Jan 05 2012 9:38PM):
Reducing the size of the undocumented population
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Do restrictive measures at the local level repel immigrants from local communities, above and beyond the effects of the economy? This is a question where “pick and choose” anecdotes [and very little rigorous evidence] from disparate sides of immigration debates have dominated. NCLR’s position statement above goes a long way at revisiting claims that immigrants initiatively and automatically flee harsh political climates.
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Fairness.com is exploring use of NowComment as a tool for public policy discussion; this was our first try. We invited a number of professors, researchers, and national organizations who all closely follow (and in some cases advocate for) various approaches to immigration reform to comment on this speech.
Those who graciously contributed comments are (in alphabetical order):
Prof. Allert Brown-Gort, Associate Director
Institute for Latino Studies (University of Notre Dame)
Michelle Mittelstadt, Director of Communications
Migration Policy Institute
Juan Pedroza, Research Associate
Urban Institute
Mark Silverman, Director of Immigrant Policy
Immigrant Legal Resource Center
Jessica Vaughan, Director of Policy Studies
Center for Immigration Studies
Michele Waslin, Senior Policy Analyst
American Immigration Council
Julian Teixeira, Director of Communications for National Council of La Raza, also passed on his organization’s brief summarizing its position on immigration reform.
We ran into a number of logistical and coordination problems on this project, the most significant being choosing the period Thanksgiving through New Years to undertake it. Lessons learned, look for our next efforts soon!
Special thanks to Sheeva Nesva, our Fall 2011 intern, for researching the topic and helping coordinate the project.
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It is striking that being in El Paso he mentions Ellis Island and Angel Island, but totally neglects to mention that El Paso was the gateway for Mexican migration to the U.S. (or to what would later become the U.S.) from the 17th century to the mid 20th century.
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If we are speaking about the bulk of the undocumented immigrants, there is no line to which they can realistically subscribe. That is, there was until recently, a great deal of demand for their labor, but not really any ordered mechanism for them to enter and access the jobs. If we recognize this type of immigration to be responding to economic factors, then we must recognize that supply will come to balance with demand. If our immigration laws do not recognize (and so respond to) the fundamental nature of this proposition all other efforts are doomed to fail.
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This soundbite is tempting and will continue to shape discussions of immigration into the forseeable future. We should not, however, describe the process of migration in such simplistic terms. After all, we’re not talking about a lunch line or a grocery story checkout. From my point of view, unauthorized migrants who come without a formal invitation (or overstay an intiial invitation) settle in communities that welcome their labor, time, and talents.
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I agree. We need the president and others to state more clearly that there simply is no line for most unauthorized immigrants. We can’t have a constructive conversation about reforming the immigration system unless everyone understands the current system.
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That’s a very important point. Another important point, and one that is often overlooked, is that the country needs to maximize the talents of the immigrants who have already come to the United States. There are more than 1.5 million college-educated legal immigrants in the United States who are underemployed or unemployed because they cannot obtain work at their skill level. The problem of ‘brain waste’ or lack of recognition of educational and professional credentials obtained abroad is a significant one. California, New York, and Illinois are among the states examining credential recognition; the focus, however, remains at a more ad hoc level.
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I think it’s a positive step that the Administration has prioritized serious criminals. However, in practice, many of the “criminals” deported have been convicted of a traffic violation or some other minor offense. And many others have no criminal conviction at all. Programs like Secure Communities have identified these immigrants for ICE to deport. The Administration needs to re-visit Secure Communities and ensure that it is in line with its stated priorities and that it truly focuses on serious convicted criminals.
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So this and the prior endorsement rings somewhat hollow. The Obama Administration needs to reduce not
increase the separation of families through deportation
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Inaction in Congress has also resulted in harsh anti-immigrant laws at the state and local level, including the new Alabama law which is having a devastating impact on the state’s economy as well as on the immigrant community.
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The President would be hard pressed to find many people, especially in law enforcement, who agree that the border is secure and the law is being enforced. In fact, the GAO has reported that only 15% of the southwest border is fully controlled and only 44% is partially controlled. The rest is not controlled. In addition, the Obama administration has relaxed enforcement of immigration laws in the interior. For example, the number of deportations (or removals), which was rising steadily for the last decade, has leveled off, and the number of apprehensions by ICE in the interior has declined by 20% in recent years. Worksite arrests have dropped by 70%. And, the administration has announced that it intends to remove only those illegal aliens who commit other serious crimes, and has suspended enforcement action against tens of thousands of illegal aliens who have been apprehended through programs such as Secure Communities and 287g. Few observers would characterize the policies of the Obama administration as aggressive or tough.
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In addition, businesses have to be held accountable if they knowingly hire illegal workers. The Obama administration’s worksite audit program has resulted mainly in fines for paperwork violations, with the majority of those who are found to have hired suspect workers getting off with warnings, even if they hired large numbers of illegal workers. And, since ICE do not pursue charges against illegal workers, they are free to stay and continue working. This harms job prospects for the millions of U.S. citizen and legal immigraant workers who are seeking work in those occupations.
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He misrepresents the policies and accomplishments of his immigration agencies and their leaders, in order to make it appear that they are tough on immigration enforcement, and to support his claim that it is time to enact the policies he supports, which include increases in legal immigration and an amnesty for illegal immigrants. However, the President clearly does not want to sound so tough as to alienate some of his core supporters who favor more lenient policies. He tries to pre-empt criticism of his administration¹s performance by accusing those skeptics of ³moving the goal posts² and making unreasonable demands. It should not be surprising that this speech fell flat, and failed to convince most Americans, either that illegal immigration is under control or that it would be a good time to increase immigration and legalize the huge population of illegal immigrants.
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since it’s virtually impossible that Congress will enact any immigration reform or even the DREAM Act until 2013 at the very earliest. After the November, 2012 election we will probably know whether there is a realistic possibility of such reform before 2015.
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In terms of understanding the current problems around immigration, the President’s speech was not very helpful, in that it was essentially a collection of platitudes that offered little in terms of ideas for really moving forward on this topic. He spoke in El Paso, so he was clearly trying to send a message to the Latino community, but his need to also demonstrate that the border has been strengthened meant that the message was mixed at best, and so it is not clear if it was even successful as a political act.
It is instructive that Mexico is not mentioned until paragraph 22. Perhaps the most disappointing is that President Obama relies in part on conflating “high value-added” immigration (i.e. the highly educated and/or those with significant monetary means) with the type of immigrants who form the bulk of the undocumented immigrants. While understandable if the object is to increase support for immigration, it is unfortunate because it takes away clarity from the possible solutions. For example, he only ever indirectly mentions demand in the US economy for these workers (paragraph 41), and to the extent that he mentions employers, the implicit assumption is that they are employing these immigrants because they are unscrupulous and wish to exploit their workers. While I have no doubt that this type of employers exist, we should be careful in thinking that this is the only reason businesses hire the undocumented.
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THE CONTEXT
The nation’s immigration system is in urgent need of reform that restores dignity and the rule of law and rejects a status quo that does neither. Congressional failure to enact reform has led to piecemeal measures that are introducing greater chaos into an already broken system, particularly those enacted at the state and local levels, which lack jurisdiction over immigration. Alarmingly, such measures, combined with the toxic tone of the immigration debate, have also fomented an environment of intolerance against immigrants, regardless of immigration status, and against Hispanics in general, making this a defining civil rights issue for the Latino community.
The enactment of piecemeal laws that deal with immigration has been ineffective in reducing the size of the undocumented population. Now forced more deeply into the shadows, this population is more susceptible to exploitation by unscrupulous employers to the detriment of all workers. While dysfunctional legal immigration policies keep families apart and legal workers out, heavy handed enforcement operations have terrorized communities and led to the unlawful detention of legal immigrants and citizens.
It is time for the federal government to accept its responsibility and exercise leadership to fix these failed policies. The country needs real solutions that are aligned with America s best values and traditions.
THE SOLUTION
In reality, there is much consensus around solutions to the immigration issue. Poll after poll demonstrates that the American public is in a much more pragmatic place than Congress has been on this issue. This has been corroborated further in recent election cycles, which showed that voters rejected leading anti-immigrant candidates. Voters support a comprehensive overhaul of our broken system that restores the rule of law and includes legalization and smart enforcement.
NCLR (National Council of La Raza) supports a workable and humane immigration system that promotes legality, serves the national interest, and upholds the Constitution and our values. To achieve those goals, reform must:
* Restore the rule of law through a two-pronged approach that includes earned legalization and sensible enforcement. Neither of these measures alone can restore order to the system.
* Preserve the rule of law by creating workable legal immigration channels that uphold family unity and protect workers rights.
* Strengthen the fabric of America by adopting proactive measures that advance the successful integration of new immigrants.
The sense of urgency and possibility for real change in immigration are stronger than ever. A constructive debate and smart solutions are needed to move the country forward. For more information on NCLR s work on immigration, visit http://www.nclr.org/immigration .
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Do restrictive measures at the local level repel immigrants from local communities, above and beyond the effects of the economy? This is a question where “pick and choose” anecdotes [and very little rigorous evidence] from disparate sides of immigration debates have dominated. NCLR’s position statement above goes a long way at revisiting claims that immigrants initiatively and automatically flee harsh political climates.
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