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Dan Doernberg

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(Nov 16 2011 11:27AM) : Compared to, not necessarily in place of! more

As noted below, the two approaches can be very complementary!

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mr. pranav garg (Nov 16 2011 12:48PM) : How do you make a comment more

how do ypou make a comment

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NowComment® Online Discussion

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General Differences

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A lot of information is shared (text and pictures are high bandwidth visual information).

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Melissa Castranova (Mar 25 2012 9:36PM) : 1st paragraph comment more

comment

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Relatively little information shared (speech is low bandwidth).

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Fredric Stein (Nov 16 2011 12:51PM) : No opportunity to reflect and modify one's comment before releasing it.
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Ms. JoAnne Wangsatorntanakhun (Nov 16 2011 12:53PM) : Moodle more

This could be a good supplement to moodle.

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Multiple simultaneous conversations; students can comment at any time on whatever they find interesting (including tangential observations) without interrupting other conversations

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mr. pranav garg (Nov 16 2011 12:50PM) : Weird first time users should be helped with tips of how to make comment otherwise it would be difficult for them to figure out how they can be productive.
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There's only one conversation, which may not give some students a good opening to turn the conversation to their topic. Tangents can derail the current conversation.

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No need to split attention; full discussion transcript remains accessible for student review and teacher evaluation.

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Laura Costello (Nov 16 2011 12:50PM) : Full transcript inhibits "thinking out loud?" more

Students may be more likely to make “thinking out loud”-type comments in a face-to-face discussion, precisely because there will not be a full transcript available later. This may constitute an advantage over NowComment.

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Joann Agnitti (Nov 16 2011 12:57PM) : transcript advatnages more

Being able to respond in a face-to-face setting is definitely a benefit. I think have a transcript and being able to make specific comments on it could also be useful, though!

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Students and teachers must juggle listening and note-taking; retention is constrained by imperfect memory and note-taking ability.

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Fred Rossoff (Nov 16 2011 12:50PM) : Note-Taking more

Yes, let the infinite internet take your notes.

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Ms. JoAnne Wangsatorntanakhun (Nov 16 2011 12:57PM) : supplement not replacement more

We think this tool should be presented as a supplement to face to face discussion rather than a replacement

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One upload gives the class ongoing access to both the document and discussion transcript.

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Time and expense of distributing paper copies (which students often lose or forget to bring).

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Fred Rossoff (Nov 16 2011 12:49PM) : Saves Trees more

This site could save many trees.

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Fred Rossoff (Nov 16 2011 12:49PM) : Forgetful more

I always forget assignments. This will give us forgetful students a leg up.

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Overcome Time Constraints

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Opportunity to make as many comments as each person thinks is important, because making comments doesn't take time away from others.

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Megha A (Nov 16 2011 12:51PM) : Quality of comments more Tags: spam, quality

How do we make sure we are maintaining quality comments as the amount of comments grow?

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This comment was deleted by Megha A at Nov 16 2011 12:53PM.

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Kate Meersschaert (Nov 16 2011 12:54PM) : Quality Control more

Very subjective, is there a moderator function? Does this take the democracy out of the tool?

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Fred Rossoff (Nov 16 2011 12:53PM) : Moderator more

We need some kind of moderator on this document!

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Fred Rossoff (Nov 16 2011 12:55PM) : Democracy more

Democracy is overrated

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Kate Meersschaert (Nov 16 2011 12:57PM) : Agreed! more

Yes, democracy comes with harsh consequences:)

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Kate Meersschaert (Nov 16 2011 12:52PM) : Helpful for in-class & outside of class discussion more

Makes comments richer! Can be used both for both in-class & out of class discussion! Perhaps inspires more lively debate as opposed to a forum.

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Only time for a few comments; some people get no turn to speak, many don't get to express all the thoughts they feel are important.

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Demetri Lales (Nov 16 2011 12:58PM) : test more

test

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Opportunity for more developed, detailed, and nuanced comments; long comments don't take time away from others.

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There's usually no time to fully communicate complex ideas, explore tangential themes, etc.

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Ryan Friend

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(Apr 11 2012 9:47AM) : Complex Ideas more

Typing out a response allows users the ability to see what they are saying while analyzing word choice and purpose of their argument.

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New Technology, New Options

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Option to hide viewing of comments until a certain date/time lets students comment with minimal peer pressure/influence.

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George Nantwi (Nov 16 2011 12:51PM) : Teachers can prepare comments and reveal them at the right time more

This can be helpful. Teachers can prepare comments in advance and choose to reveal them at the right time according to their lesson plans, or even change them before publishing based on students’ progress.

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Shane Chin (Nov 16 2011 12:52PM) : Great Feature for controversial topics more

I like the idea of this feature in very controversial documents. When you take a topic like Abortion, dissenting opinions might not get shared without such a feature.

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Inescapable influence or pressure of previously voiced comments in class discussions.

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Zhou Zhou (Nov 16 2011 12:51PM) : Pressure is not necessarily a bad thing more

In FtF, pressures may prompt the students to think harder.

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Top Ten Educational Advantages of Online Discussion

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Comfortable Online Social Context

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Writing is done in private (often from home or other safe environment). Students get to choose which comments to respond to and which students to engage with. Online discussion is a fresh format that leverages students' comfort, facility, and enjoyment of online and social media.

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Demetri Lales (Nov 16 2011 12:53PM) : Kids comfortable with commenting more

Kids are known to be more comfortable commenting online than speaking out loud during class.

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Melissa Castranova (Mar 25 2012 9:34PM) : new comment more

new comment

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George Nantwi (Nov 16 2011 12:53PM) : true for shy people more

and second language learners!

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Very formal, high social pressure (public speaking, all eyes on the speaker). Whose comments a student gets to respond to are determined by whom the Teacher calls on or whose hand is raised first. A familiar but not exciting format.

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Alex Park (Nov 16 2011 12:49PM) : Disagree more

Which is an essential social skill! We must teach our students public speaking.

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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:53PM) : Only one comment here?
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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:55PM) : How many levels can it make?
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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:55PM) : next level
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Verena;Daniel Kollig (Mar 12 2012 3:09PM) : Agree to Disagree more

Absolutely, it is a social skill. And we must assure students that it is okay to express opinions openly, in public, and that it is all right if not everyone agrees with each other.

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Students can take time to think through and fully express their thoughts; no one is ever interrupted.

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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:48PM) : I am trying to see other's comments
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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:48PM) : When will they refresh the comment table?
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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:51PM) : I did not see other's comments. more

I can only see the comments in my paragraph.

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Shane Chin (Nov 16 2011 1:00PM) : No AJAX, Requires Refresh more

It requires a page refresh.

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A few highly verbal extroverts often dominate the conversation (and sometimes interrupt others); students have to speak up quickly or risk losing their turn, even if their ideas aren't fully formed. Shy students habitually don't participate.

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Megha A (Nov 16 2011 12:56PM) : hehaha more

Test

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Daniel Vergara (Nov 16 2011 12:51PM) : test
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Wei An (Nov 16 2011 12:56PM) : For this sentence?
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Joann Agnitti (Nov 16 2011 12:50PM) : An outlet for shy users more

I agree— online discussions are a great outlet for students who generally don’t participate in class discussions.

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George Nantwi (Nov 16 2011 12:56PM) : This is true. more

but what about scaffolding for actual public speaking?

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Megha A (Nov 16 2011 12:57PM) : Circle or rectangle? more

Whats the difference between circle comment and rectangle comment?

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Demetri Lales (Nov 16 2011 1:03PM) : Comment thought bubbles more

Circles are comments on sentences and Rectangles are comments on paragraphs, according to what was said earlier..I think

Students can intellectually engage with each other to explore in depth (e.g. multiple back-and-forths) similar or divergent perspectives, related ideas, interesting implications.

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Yudan Li (Nov 16 2011 12:53PM) : First comment to p 31
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Few chances to talk through varying perspectives, rarely able to ask follow-up questions or pose challenges, etc.

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Note: Online discussion nicely complements face-to-face discussion, lectures, and other traditional methods:

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  • leverage online comments to energize face-to-face discussion

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  • use online discussion to reinforce concepts after a presentation

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  • request online comments to see what people understand before giving a presentation

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  • review discussion transcripts to identify research projects, writing projects, group assignments, etc.

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Please visit our educational applications page for helpful links and sample uses:

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For more information about NowComment please contact: info@fairness.com

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(Apr 11 2012 9:53AM) : Face-to-Face Discussions more

When conflicting viewpoints are discussed in person, sometimes the opposing view intimidates their opponent with their manors. Reading a person’s response allows for a more meaningful conversation that is absent from threatening stares.

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