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Arif Bacchus Arif Bacchus (Oct 28 2014 1:34PM) : TItle [Edited] more

Interesting title because there have been many power couples in American HIstory. If I didn’t have to read this for an assignment and just saw this title in a paper, I would have read on to see which one the author was referring to.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:37AM) : I'm not sure there have been that many power couples. How many could you list?
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Stacey Karson Stacey Karson (Oct 29 2014 2:03PM) : Power Couples more

Some historical power couples I think of are JFK and Jackie, Obama and Michelle, Bill and Hillary, Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes, Dolce & Gabana, Bill and Melinda Gates, Jay-Z and Beyonce. These are just a few I can think of. I also think that it is up to the individual to decide who is a power couple or not, depending on what era and social context they are referring to. If I saw this couple, I would be intrigued as well to see who the writer was referring to considering there were so many power couples in past history and currently today.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:28AM) : In part it depends how you define power. Quite a difference between Hillary and Jackie.
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Jason Javaherian Jason Javaherian (Oct 30 2014 10:36PM) : Frank and Claire Underwood come to mind. For the definition to be true the power source has to come from both husband and wife. With respect to Jackie Kennedy Onassis, she did not have the political clout of a ER, or Hillary Clinton.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:34AM) : Good example
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Mr. Kishan Singh Mr. Kishan Singh (Dec 16 2014 12:29AM) : A lot of these couples are not historic. FDR ruled at a time when there were major world shaping events (USA:very important world player). Incomparable.
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Arif Bacchus Arif Bacchus (Oct 30 2014 4:47PM) : Stacey more

I think Stacey did a good job of answering your question about the Power Couples. I had quite a few in mind before she answered—- including the Obamas, the Kennedys, De Blasios, Gates, etc.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:35AM) : Not sure, though, about Jackie. It depends on whether you think she was interested in power.
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Arif Bacchus Arif Bacchus (Oct 31 2014 12:29PM) : Interesting more

Now that you mention that, Power could have dual meaning? On one side The couple can be out for power or have power. Then on the other side the public can just view them as a powerful couple regardless of what they do? Like the Obamas are a powerful couple because they are political.. But then the Gates are just powerful because the public respects what they do as philanthropists. One is more celebrity and the other is more serious.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 7:59AM) : Yes, power couple could mean all of what you say.
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FRANKLIN AND ELEANOR: AN EXTRAORDINARY MARRIAGE

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By: Hazel Rowley.

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Publisher: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 345 pages, $27.

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That Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt formed a splendid partnership is not news. While FDR superbly calculated the political consequences of nearly every move he made, Eleanor encouraged him to act on his convictions -- sometimes goading him to do the right thing at the risk of his career. And it is not surprising to learn about FDR's extramarital dalliances with other women, or about Eleanor's passionate attachments to both women and men, attachments that verged on and perhaps included romantic affairs.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 7:29AM) : Why does the lead paragraph tell you what is not news. [Edited]
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Thomas Seubert Thomas Seubert (Oct 27 2014 10:08PM) : Relationships more

The lede interestingly points out that this power couple’s symbiotic relationship was/is something well-known.

It also says that some less noble details about there relationship aren’t really surprising either.

The play on words here, though maybe not intended, is interesting. Intricacies of relationships and extramarital affairs were never reported on. They weren’t “news,” at least until Gary Hart.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 28 2014 8:39AM) : The first paragraph is also a setup for the second paragraph. How?
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Thomas Seubert Thomas Seubert (Oct 28 2014 3:13PM) : Second Paragraph more

The second paragraph explains how this biographer further details the relationship described in the first paragraph, which serves as a way into the review.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:38AM) : So dealing with familiar material is okay if what conditions are met?
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Abel Tavarez Abel Tavarez (Oct 29 2014 6:45PM) : To elaborate on what Tom said, using known material to segue is permissible. more

You can discuss familiar material if you are using it to bounce off into lesser-known information. Starting with the known sets the stage for the meaty parts, so to speak.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:29AM) : What about the role of interpretation?
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Trudy Knockless Trudy Knockless (Oct 28 2014 2:39PM) : To show that the what makes their story relevant is not that they formed a partnership, but how it was formed, how they sustained it and what they did within that partnership. Everyone already knows they had a successful partnership, but only few would k [Edited] more

To show that the what makes their story relevant is not that they formed a partnership, but how it was formed, how they sustained it and what they did within that partnership. Many people already know they had a splendid partnership, but only few would know how they managed to sustain their relationship.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:38AM) : So the biographer goes into more depth.
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Trudy Knockless Trudy Knockless (Nov 04 2014 11:19AM) : Yes, he took us inside their relationship.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 05 2014 8:38AM) : You mean she.
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Nadine Roman Nadine Roman (Oct 29 2014 11:39PM) : . more

It immediately lets the reader know that the review won’t be about things that’s considered commonly known. The paragraph gets all the things most people have read about the couple out of the way to set up for the actual review.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:30AM) : Good Point.
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Claudia Rodriguez Claudia Rodriguez (Oct 30 2014 11:04PM) : Eleanor and FDR's relationship. more

The good things about Eleanor and FDR’s relationship are well known and the author is letting us know that he will be discussing some lesser known details about their marriage.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:36AM) : Lesser known or approached from a different angle.
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It is a writing technique of stating the obvious to later depart from it by revealing unusual, hidden. Chosen first sentence here sets the stage for the story of what was behind the scenes.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:36AM) : A technique or strategy.
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Stephen Herman Stephen Herman (Oct 31 2014 11:07AM) : The paragraph sets up what's to come. By the end of it, I was instantly hooked to want to keep reading, especially when the idea of possible romantic affairs (especially) between women came up. I'm not usually one for that, but this somehow felt truthful.
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Irina Groushevaia Irina Groushevaia (Oct 31 2014 12:22PM) : . more

To let us know, that we are not here for the ordinary background story. It’s a hint to know there will more interesting details, than of what we already know

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 8:00AM) : Quite right.
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Yelena Melnichenko Yelena Melnichenko (Dec 05 2014 9:59AM) : Introducing Something New more

The lead probably wants to establish what we already know, or should know, in order to introduce a new element and something we maybe DON’T know.It forms a kind of ‘turn’ in the writing.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 06 2014 6:57AM) : Turn is a good word in this context.
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But Hazel Rowley, author of acclaimed biographies of Christina Stead, Richard Wright, and Jean Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir, dramatizes in intimate detail just how close the connection between husband and wife became, and how incredibly generous they were with one another. FDR even built a home on his Hyde Park estate for two women who had become his wife's intimate friends. He took an active interest in Eleanor's female partners, such as Lorena Hickok, whom FDR employed in the Federal Emergency Relief Administration.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 7:31AM) : Why are Rowley's other biographies mentioned? And what about her choice of subjects?
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Thomas Seubert Thomas Seubert (Oct 27 2014 10:12PM) : Experience more

The other biographies illustrate an experience and the biographer’s personal interest in investigating couples.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 28 2014 8:40AM) : What about the range of subjects?
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Thomas Seubert Thomas Seubert (Oct 28 2014 3:19PM) : Difference more

It shows that the biographer is capable of handling subjects with a variety of backgrounds. While all of them are writers, in some form or another, each of their situations are vastly different.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:39AM) : Right.
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Arif Bacchus Arif Bacchus (Oct 28 2014 1:32PM) : Reputation. more

It shows the reader a background of the biographer and reasserts the biographer’s reputation. It also shows the reader that the biographer has deep experience in writing about a wide range of subjects. As for the subjects, the subjects range from all over the place—-from Australian novelist Christina Stead, African novelist Richard Wright, or Philosopher jean Paul Sarttre.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:39AM) : Yes.
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To establish his authority as a biographer, since the choice of his subjects is very diverse – African-American author of controversial stories, an Australian novelist, and both French existential philosophers.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:36AM) : Wide-ranging authority.
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Irina Groushevaia Irina Groushevaia (Oct 31 2014 12:25PM) : . more

It gives authority to the writer, by knowing she has experience in writing and learning about other couples. Also if its her personal interest to investigate about couples in particular it adds more depth to why we can trust her. It also shows versatility of her topics, even though many are about couples, they all have different backgrounds and lives.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 8:00AM) : All true.
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Yelena Melnichenko Yelena Melnichenko (Dec 05 2014 10:01AM) : Authority and Versatility more

The introduction of the other biographies establishes her range of knowledge in the matter and how the versatility of subjects probably impacts the way she’d investigate FDR and Eleanor.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 06 2014 6:57AM) : Yes experience applied to new subjects.
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This was never merely a marriage of convenience. Eleanor needed Franklin to involve her in a broader and more complex world than her sheltered upbringing allowed her to imagine. Initially, she had no interest in politics, but in her efforts to please her husband, she discovered that she actually excelled in the public arena. Franklin relied on Eleanor as an antidote to his manipulative, controlling mother. It was Eleanor who helped him break out of his depression after contracting polio, urging him to continue his quest to become president at a time his mother wanted to confine him to a life of pampered invalidism at his Hyde Park estate.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 7:35AM) : How did Eleanor's concern with FDR's health contribute to his success as a politician?
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Thomas Seubert Thomas Seubert (Oct 27 2014 10:10PM) : Pushing Him more

Eleanor pushed FDR to pursue a career in politics, something other familial influences didn’t support.

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Arif Bacchus Arif Bacchus (Oct 28 2014 1:48PM) : Family more

She tried to be pleasing, and she cared for him…something his other members of the family tree were not doing.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:40AM) : What about Franklin's mother?
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Abel Tavarez Abel Tavarez (Oct 29 2014 6:59PM) : Eleanor served as a counterweight to FDR's overbearing mother.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:30AM) : Can overbearing also be supportive?
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His mother was very possessive of him, perhaps she was just a possessive person, needing to interfere into Franklin’s every major decision, even as an adult. She almost broke off his engagement to Eleanor, and would rather have him aside as a quite countryman, rather than politician she would have to share with the entire world. Possessive love is selfish, not supportive.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:37AM) : quiet.
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Trudy Knockless Trudy Knockless (Oct 28 2014 2:54PM) : They both seem to love being around people who are vibrant and full of life. Having a depressed FDR around her would create a solemn environment. He was always supportive of her and this was a time when he needed her most, especially since his mother wa more

They both seem to love being around people who are vibrant and full of life. Having a depressed FDR around her would create a solemn environment. He was always supportive of her and this was a time when he needed her most, especially since his mother wasn’t being supportive. She knew how much politics and becoming president meant to him and if he wasn’t able to do that he would die faster. She pushed him into continuing on that journey because she knows it would bring him out of his depression and it would give him something to do other than thinking about his illness.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:41AM) : His mother was giving him support, but not the kind he needed.
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Trudy Knockless Trudy Knockless (Nov 04 2014 11:20AM) : True.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 05 2014 8:39AM) : So support in itself is not always welcome.
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Claudia Rodriguez Claudia Rodriguez (Oct 30 2014 11:10PM) : Creation of a Bond more

Eleanor’s concern with FDR’s health had allowed her to push her husband towards the presidency and away from the concern’s of his controlling mother who preferred that he stay home for the rest of his life. Eleanor decided to build his self esteem and had realized how she could help him by involving herself in politics at a time her husband did not have the strength to.

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Eleanor knew him very good, and she anticipated what would make him feel better in the long run, knowing his ambitious and steel determined nature.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:38AM) : knew him very well.
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Stephen Herman Stephen Herman (Oct 31 2014 11:21AM) : It seems she wanted him not to simply succumb to his illness and break his spirit. She saw this as a chance for him to push past it and be stronger, I imagine a president who excelled at his duties with a ill fated disease would stir up hope in anyone.
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A successful relationship needs support and understanding – what FDR could not get from his mother. So they were very close not only in politics, but in their personal lives as well.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 8:01AM) : Close but not always intimate.
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Sebastian Lema Sebastian Lema (Oct 31 2014 4:04PM) : Although FDR was sick and depressed she knew that he had to continue his political career. She helped him out of his slump and have him working unlike his mother that wanted him bedridden. Additionally, she always encouraged him to follow his gut.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 8:02AM) : Eleanor wanted a strong independent Franklin. His mother wanted a dependent.
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Her concern with his health helped him break out of his shell and build confidence with her encouragement. She was the female figure that drove him forward, unlike his mother, and made him challenge himself to succeed.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 06 2014 6:59AM) : Concern yes, but I think another word is need to characterize the nature of that concern.
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Even more importantly, Eleanor came to love Louis Howe, the single most important figure in Franklin's rise to the presidency. At first, Howe, a chain smoking, rumpled ex-journalist who crafted FDR's public persona, disgusted Eleanor, but the undeterred Howe encouraged her involvement in politics at a time when candidates' wives were hardly more than decorative features of political campaigns.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 7:34AM) : Compare Eleanor's lack of interest in politics, to begin with, to her reaction to Louis Howe. What is the design of this paragraph and the preceding one?
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Abel Tavarez Abel Tavarez (Oct 29 2014 7:05PM) : Eleanor's love of politics and the importance of Louis Howe to the Roosevelt's is tied together. more

The two paragraphs show how Eleanor’s love of politics was spurred by a man she initially found repulsive.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:31AM) : True.
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This paragraph is designed to introduce Louis Howe and illustrate his influence in Eleanor’s later interest in politics. It shows that through Howe’s likeminded love for community, Eleanor was able to come around to politics and see it in a more appealing light.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:31AM) : Right.
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Paragraphs are designed in such a way that the evolution of the thought of the subject is revealed. From lack of interest in politics, Eleanore found herself excelling as a public figure. Same way her attitude towards Howe changed.

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It is also not clear whether she was that disengaged in politics prior her marriage to Roosevelt. Her headteacher, known for her strong independent views and desire to cultivate same independent thinking in young girls, in the private boarding school highly influenced Eleanor Roosevelt. And young Eleanore became quite famous within the school walls. Social ad political activism might have rooted in her back then in the boarding school.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:38AM) : Social activism, yes, and then politics is another way to express that activism.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:38AM) : Yes, evolution is the word.
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Sebastian Lema Sebastian Lema (Oct 31 2014 4:17PM) : It shows how a man that she originally was not fond of got her into the world of politics something in which she had no interest in at the time. ... more

The significance is to show how (considering FDRs health) it was her responsibility to aid him by involving herself in politics something that presidents wives normally don’t do.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 8:02AM) : Eleanor was capable of learning from and adjusting to changes in her life.
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This paragraph serves almost as a parallel foil to the previous. It compares Eleanor’s struggle with something, and the person who helped her overcome it, in comparison to FDR’s struggle and who helped him. Eleanor was able to involve herself in politics when it wasn’t expected, showing the faith he had in her, the way that Eleanor had faith in FDR.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 06 2014 6:59AM) : Right parallel construction.
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What united FDR and ER was their sense of community. They wanted friends and lovers around them, and they wanted to share their homes and the White House itself with those who served them and supplied the news about the world. Franklin Roosevelt and Eleanor Roosevelt, upper New York State aristocrats, became more attuned to the lives of the American people than any other presidential couple -- not a claim Rowley makes, but one that becomes evident in reading her magnificent biography.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 7:33AM) : How is the Roosevelt marriage connected to their sense of community?
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Trudy Knockless Trudy Knockless (Oct 28 2014 2:56PM) : It shows that to have a successful community people must stick together and support each other. People also have to understand each other and embrace others for who they are. if you can do that in a marriage, it can be successful; and if you can do that more

It shows that to have a successful community people must stick together and support each other. People also have to understand each other and embrace others for who they are. if you can do that in a marriage, it can be successful; and if you can do that as a community you can have a united community.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 29 2014 7:42AM) : Eleanor helped her husband at a time when he was weaker than she was, just as he helped her at a time when she was weaker than him. All that has political implications given what they couple managed to do.
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Abel Tavarez Abel Tavarez (Oct 29 2014 7:27PM) : The marriage is an example of how both saw greatness in each other, and, by extension, the U.S. through their love of community. [Edited]
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 30 2014 8:32AM) : And the recognition that at some point most people need help.
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Trudy Knockless Trudy Knockless (Nov 04 2014 11:24AM) : It also shows you never know if and when you will need help and who may have to help you. You can be at the heights of greatness one day and be reduced greatly the next due to illness or other issues.
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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 05 2014 8:39AM) : Yes.
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They were capable of overcoming the complications of their marriage and sustain close friendship and support for each other. Eleanor could have destroyed his political career if she divorced Roosevelt, or she could have made a big public scandal out of his affair. She chose not to, and managed to remain a loyal friend not only to Franklin, but his surrounding.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Oct 31 2014 8:39AM) : Would you say, then, that part of Eleanor's decision could be called political?
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It was a political decision for all parties involved, especially Franklin’s mother, since she gave him a very clear ultimatum – divorce or inheritance. Maybe this ability to take a rational decision and maintain peace within the family reflects their sense of community.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 02 2014 5:47AM) : And their sense of politics.
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When both had hard times they would look out for each other, it was not a competition, but a union between them. That helped them grow in their personal lives, as well as their political lives.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Nov 01 2014 8:03AM) : Yes, developing together.
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It wasn’t perfect, with wavering faith at times, but it was something that was worked on time after time and made strong. As a couple they most likely understood the struggles of others because of their own and knew just how much people deserved a second chance. They cared about one another and they cared about the world and that was enough for them to spur change.

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Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 06 2014 7:00AM) : A good example of what it means when it is said the personal is political.
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Carl Rollyson is a biographer and professor of journalism at Baruch College, City University of New York.

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