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Norman Mailer: A Top American Novelist

Norman Mailer, a Top American Novelist

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By CARL ROLLYSON, Special to the Sun | November 12, 2007

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With the passing of Norman Mailer at 84, American literature has lost one of its major voices.

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Norman Mailer reflects on turning 80 during an interview in his Brooklyn Heights apartment in January 2003.

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Mailer, who died Saturday morning at Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan of renal failure, catapulted himself into the front ranks of American writers early, with his critically acclaimed and best-selling debut, the war novel "The Naked and the Dead" (1948). "The Armies of the Night" (1968), his account of the march on the Pentagon, won the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize, and he won another Pulitzer for "The Executioner's Song" (1979), his epic account of murderer Gary Gilmour.

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samiyha jimenez samiyha jimenez (Mar 27 2015 5:08PM) : The first paragraph is a brief introduction into his case of death and the significance of Norman Mailer's existence. I feel like this paragraph is formatted to gain the readers attention.

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Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez (Mar 28 2015 1:26AM) : The first paragraph starts almost as a news story

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Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:31AM) : It is a introduction of his success but yet his work hasn't been recognized as a american novelist

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:27PM) : What does the first paragraph establish? What other beginning can you imagine for this obituary?

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Brittani Scott Brittani Scott (Sep 07 2014 6:25PM) : This paragraph establishes a sense of urgency for the reader to know that Norman Mailer was one of America's well-known writers. And multiple titles of his writings were given to prove that he was one of the best. I would have imagined the obituary more

starting off with his beginning life, of where he was born and who he was before he became this great writer.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 08 2014 12:57PM) : Not all readers would know about Mailer's significance, so just to begin with the beginning might not attract enough atention.

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Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez (Mar 28 2015 1:40AM) : I agree with you professor, because as in real life some people might not care about someone's death. That would be the reason why it won't attract so much attention.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:48PM) : ok

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Julia Howe Julia Howe (Sep 08 2014 8:20PM) : The first paragraph gives a quick account of who Norman Mailer was. Using imagery such as "catapulted himself into the front ranks.." aids in drawing in a reader who may not have known his work. more

Perhaps beginning with his accomplishments before mentioning his renal failure would be another option for the obituary.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 09 2014 1:03PM) : Most people (including me) want to know what a person died of right away.

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Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez (Mar 28 2015 4:00AM) : Yes but if we get to know right away, then we would lose many details.

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 09 2014 5:45PM) : To pull the reader in. more

This first paragraph lets you know of Mailer’s life in the brief description covering the highlights of his career and the ending of his life, intriguing the reader into wanting to know the details in between these two great points of a person’s life.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:38PM) : Between two great points--a good way to put it.

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Mr. Douglas Cosgriff Mr. Douglas Cosgriff (Sep 10 2014 4:02PM) : The first paragraph establishes who Mailer was, for those who hadn't previously known, and how experienced he was. It also quickly tells that he is dead. more

While I think most obituaries would state his notable work early on, an obituary might be complimentary to the person’s personality and lifestyle rather than just what the person has achieved.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 11 2014 2:01PM) : And what does the first paragraph do for a reader who does know Mailer's work and something about his life?

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Zelene Pineda Suchilt Zelene Pineda Suchilt (Sep 12 2014 1:44AM) : It let's you know where and what he died of, and what were his most notable accomplishments as a writer. he was a Pulitzer winner, one if not the highest honors a writer can receive in his lifetime,aside from a Nobel peace prize

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:05PM) : A quick summing up of his significance.

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Andrey Buslov Andrey Buslov (Sep 12 2014 6:57PM) : The first paragrah describes the work of the author and how he catapulted to fame by his achievements in writing thoe articles and novels. It also gives a brif description of his death. It lists his most achieved work throughout his life.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:44PM) : right

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Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez Joirnalism 3900 Alex Lopez (Mar 28 2015 4:02AM) : The first paragraph acts like a lead in a news story. I agree with you.

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Sebastian Lema Sebastian Lema (Sep 12 2014 11:14AM) : It gives a list of his most well known works and achievements as to demonstrate his accomplishments as a writer. It also establishes how he died. All information need for someone who doesn't know Mailer. [Edited]

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:06PM) : Right band for someone who does?

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Thomas Moy Thomas Moy (Sep 12 2014 5:40PM) : "catapulted" sets the theme of the obituary, and the imagery of a medieval catapult lasts for the whole article. more

To state the obvious, the reader is informed of Mailer’s death.

But then the reader encounters the word ‘catapulted’, which I found to be an interesting choice of wording. It gave me a sense that this person might have written about war or been affiliated people/organizations with war. Which then is affirmed by the literary pieces he has written (a war novel, and an account of a war/political event).

‘Catapulted’ also was an interesting choice because of it’s metaphorical use & imagery with the rest of the sentence : catapulted himself into the front ranks of American writers early. To break this down just a bit:

1) In the middle ages, to set up a catapult siege device; the device must be loaded with large objects of significant size/weight. This loading stage gives me a sense that Mailer was famous in American Literature, or held some kind of weight in the community.

2) After the catapult device is loaded, it is then aimed and hurled towards it’s target at an extreme unrelenting speed and vigor. Till it reaches it’s target and leaves an impact on the target. This second part served as a metaphor for Mailer’s awards for his work. It also works with imagery/metaphorically for how he “catapulted himself into the front ranks of American writers early”. This statement captures the raw impact of what Mailer has done for American Literature as he is put into attention of “the front ranks of American Literature”.

I am content with this opening, however I would like to know more about his personality. Or is it the act of catapulting himself symbolic of his nature to want to make an impact on the world?

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:45PM) : raw impact is a good way to put it.

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Stephanie Bieniek Stephanie Bieniek (Sep 12 2014 6:46PM) : The first paragraph establishes the importance of Norman Mailer. It discusses the work he accomplished in his lifetime and the time, date, place, and cause of his death. Another beginning could be starting off what caused him to become a writer.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:46PM) : Will people be interested in what caused him to be a writer if they don't already know something about him?

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Mr. Kishan Singh Mr. Kishan Singh (Dec 16 2014 5:10AM) : At 84, even though I don't know who Norman Mailer is, I would presume that being of that age, he has been a novelist who had covered a lot of major world events in his lifetime to transcribe, therefore a key novelist, and as the title says, a top one.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:22PM) : Transcribe is not the right word.

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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:23PM) : The first paragraph establishes to the reader a great loss of an American novelist who had much success during his career. more

One other beginning I could picture for this obituary was maybe providing a quote by Normal Miller that would then tie into his legacy and what a loss it is to lose such a prolific novelist.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:51AM) : Yes, a possibility.

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Aaron Ferrer Aaron Ferrer (Mar 27 2015 6:44AM) : It immediately provides you with his accolades to help establish his importance for a reader who may not have heard of him before. It's meant to intrigue enough to keep reading because it tries to show the reader he is a person of significance.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:52AM) : Correct

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Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:05PM) : It establishes some credibility, because leading up to it they coined Mailer as one of American Literatures major voices. It highlights his accomplishments and legacy.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:39PM) : Right

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Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 27 2015 7:26PM) : description more

This first section tells you of Mailer’s life in the brief depiction covering the highlights of his vocation and the consummation of his life, captivating the peruser into needing to know the subtle elements in the middle of these two extraordinary purposes of a man’s life.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:47PM) : Yes, a kind of teaser.

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MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:28AM) : It establishes his works through out his career. I think another beginning could have displayed his last moments before his death.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:23PM) : Yes, begining with the death is sometimes the way such pieces are written.

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Yet, despite these towering achievements, Mailer never quite achieved the title to which he aspired: Great American Novelist. His bids for that honor — huge novels such as "Ancient Evenings" (1983) and "Harlot's Ghost" (1991) — have great themes but lack the narrative drive, humor, and spontaneity of more modest efforts, such as "Marilyn" (1973) and "The Fight" (1975). Something in Mailer froze up when he deliberately set his sights on literary fame; his prose became elephantine and mannered.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:28PM) : What is elephantine and mannered prose?

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Brittani Scott Brittani Scott (Sep 07 2014 6:54PM) : Elephantine and Mannered Prose more

Elephantine prose being the use of large vocabulary and mannered prose being the way of speaking or writing in a precise or essential way.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 08 2014 12:57PM) : Nothing wrong with using a large vocabulary. Elephantine means something else.

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Julia Howe Julia Howe (Sep 08 2014 8:23PM) : Elephantine maybe meaning clumsy? Mannered meaning too overworked? He began writing solely for recognition, which may have resulted in forced and therefore awkward prose.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 09 2014 1:04PM) : Clumsy and awkward and sort of blundering about--the opposite of concise and elegant.

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Zelene Pineda Suchilt Zelene Pineda Suchilt (Sep 12 2014 1:48AM) : The Elephant in the Room more

the question made me think of this phrase. He also tried to run away from his BK Jewish origins while at the same time placing himself in his work conspicuously trying to place himself in the ranks of masculine literary figures like Hemingway.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:07PM) : Run away or downplay?

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 09 2014 5:50PM) : Tried too hard and became overdone and sloppy almost more

His works becoming elephantine seems to mean clumsy but could also mean sloppy, and mannered would anticipate tense or overcooked for the type of literary writing he was hoping to achieve.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:39PM) : Overblown might also fit with elephantine

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Mr. Douglas Cosgriff Mr. Douglas Cosgriff (Sep 10 2014 4:05PM) : In this regard, I believe that his work was sloppy. He was focused on a certain identity he had to fit and therefore didn't put greater thought into his stylistic choices.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 11 2014 2:02PM) : Mailer gave a lot of thought to style. But in some cases he made poor choices.

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Thomas Moy Thomas Moy (Sep 12 2014 5:46PM) : grandiose more

By the structure of this paragraph, I think the statement of his prose becoming “elephantine and mannered” explains that he had good intentions with his prose but he made poor choices as noted by “froze up”.

This paragraph gave me a sense that after his success his ego of now successful novelist, his prose must be of a higher quality in literary language, but it ended up sounding too grandiose for his personality.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:47PM) : Right. A problem with grandiosity.

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Mr. Kishan Singh Mr. Kishan Singh (Dec 16 2014 5:16AM) : Somewhat theatrics, elephantine meaning extremely famous, but yet not as effective as he had hoped.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:23PM) : elephantine has nothing to do with being famous.

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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:27PM) : Elephantine in regards to writing might mean that it was clumsy and many mistakes could be found and not enough flow. Mannered writing might be unnatural and writing that is attempting too hard to impress people.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:53AM) : Not mistakes.

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Aaron Ferrer Aaron Ferrer (Mar 27 2015 6:48AM) : His writing suffered because it became clumsy and over the top when he decided he wanted the fame and recognition.

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Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:11PM) : Elephantine is resembling characteristics of an elephant especially in being large, clumsy or awkward. Mannered prose is writing in a way that is extremely formal.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:39PM) : Correct

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Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:32AM) : It is generally awkward written work and it was all the same in connection.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:49PM) : I'm not sure what you mean by "all the same in connection."

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MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:34AM) : It is largely clumsy writing and it was all the same in context.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:24PM) : Yes, clumsy, lumbering, overblown.

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samiyha jimenez samiyha jimenez (Mar 27 2015 5:13PM) : The elephantine prose meaning awkward or clumsy and mannered prose would be writing in a way that is not formal or graceful.

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Other writers might not have found this so difficult. After all, Mailer could have probed his family life and Jewish background. But it was precisely that persona, "the nice Jewish boy from Brooklyn," that he was determined to jettison in his frantic muscle building efforts to emulate Hemingway and — even more importantly — Malraux. For Mailer had imbibed the Malraux myth of the writer as man of action, one who places himself at the center of world-shaking events.

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MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:37AM) : Professor I don't see a question here. Beside Sexuality and the paragraph does not discuss it.

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Chris Zumtobel Chris Zumtobel (Sep 12 2014 5:04PM) : I can think of a few Jewish artists who could relate. more

Artists like Philip Roth, Jonathan Ames, Leonard Cohen, and even Woody Allen, to an extent,all tend toward sexuality in their writings as a way of escaping “the nice Jewish boy” upbringing.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:48PM) : Toward sexuality? What does that mean?

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Chanelle Perrin Chanelle Perrin (Mar 27 2015 5:25PM) : He wanted his writing to be jarring and dramatic not safe. So any thing that would allow him to shed that image, for example, sexuality, would help him shed predetermined stereotypes.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:45PM) : Yes

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However, in the late 1950s, despite his growing reputation as a public personality, Mailer still felt stymied by his devotion to earlier literary models. He needed a break from tradition to find his rhythm and natural register. He helped found the Village Voice in 1955. He tried short fiction, producing a few notable pieces, such as "The Man Who Studied Yoga" and "The Time of Her Time," but the short story form did not really suit his expansive sensibility. Then, out of desperation, Mailer decided to take control by interviewing himself, and making his quest to become a great writer the subject of his writing. He became his own narrator, experiencing a freedom from literary conventions that turned him, Tristram Shandy-like, into a comical yet cunning character the reader could side with. In "Advertisements for Myself" (1959), Mailer kept up a running commentary on excerpts he included from his own fiction and nonfiction, explaining its failures and touting its successes, providing alternative tables of contents that gave readers different ways of approaching his work. The book was wonderful theater.

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MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:40AM) : This reference is due to the fact that Thistram Shady was a lot Mailer.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:26PM) : Mailer was a lot like Tristrim Shandy.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:26PM) : Who was Tristrim Shandy. Why is that the appropriate reference?

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Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:44PM) : Tristram Shandy is a character from a novel by Laurence Sterne. It is an appropriate reference because this piece imitates that novel a bit.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:41PM) : Mailer treats himself as a comic figure just as Tristrim treats himself.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:29PM) : Why the reference to Tristram Shandy? [Edited] more

Look up a description of the novel if necessary

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 09 2014 6:02PM) : Thistram Shady was a similar character in a fictional novel who wrote books from his memories of his family history topped with many opinions and little actual detail. more

Thistram Shady was a similar character in a fictional novel who wrote books from his memories of his family history topped with many opinions and little actual detail which was similar to what Mailer was doing by using himself as the subject of his own writing.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:41PM) : Tristram Shandy is sly and comical about himself and that is the way Mailer treats himself in Advertisements for Myself.

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Student Vince Brigante Student Vince Brigante (Sep 12 2014 6:17PM) : I think that is a crucial aspect of being a writer. As also stated, it makes you relatable to the reader. Often it's said to 'write about what you know' and hopefully you certainly know about yourself. I think this gives a sort of personal read.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:48PM) : Personal or intimate.

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Mr. Kishan Singh Mr. Kishan Singh (Dec 16 2014 5:19AM) : Psychologically, he gives the readers what they know, except his version of it.

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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:32PM) : Tristram Shandy wrote "The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy" and he tells his life in a humorous way. He does not explain things simply and there is a lot of context in his story. I believe Mailer treats himself the same way in his writing.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:55AM) : Yes

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Aaron Ferrer Aaron Ferrer (Mar 27 2015 6:52AM) : To show how Mailer decided to emulate a certain style that was effective and try to capitalize on it by discussing his own self and his work in a comical manner

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:55AM) : Right

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Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:34AM) : It demonstrate how Mailer chose to copy a certain style that was powerful and attempt to exploit it by examining his own in a diverting way

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:49PM) : right

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"The Armies of the Night" led to the apotheosis of the Mailer persona: the swaggering writer swept up in the maelstrom of the march on the Pentagon, the unreliable narrator challenging the unreliability of history, the novelist once again sizing up the talent in the room (notably poet Robert Lowell), but in the guise of a participant in a newsworthy and nation-defining moment. Mailer was writing about war again, but this time he was central to the combat he described; indeed, he embodied the warring sides of the American mind. This masterpiece was the closest Mailer would come to fulfilling the ambition he had announced in "Advertisements for Myself": effecting "a revolution in the consciousness of our time."

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:30PM) : To what work of literature does Armies of the Night refer?

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Julia Howe Julia Howe (Sep 08 2014 8:31PM) : "All the King's Men" Warren?

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 09 2014 1:04PM) : No, the phrase "armies of the night" is a reference to a very famous poem.

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 09 2014 6:16PM) : Dover Beach by Matthew Arnold more

This poem is in reference to the dark and comfortless place the world can become when you are put in the battlefield at night, fighting both enemy and friend, pure chaos

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:42PM) : Yes and also a larger metaphor for what?

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 10 2014 11:02PM) : It was a metaphor for the chaos that brought about the ultimate fame earned by Mailer and his ability to write about the chaos happening in the world.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 11 2014 2:03PM) : Yes, Mailer is connecting the personal and political.

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Zelene Pineda Suchilt Zelene Pineda Suchilt (Sep 12 2014 1:50AM) : great title. war and neurotics

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:08PM) : Why neurotics?

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Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:49PM) : The armies of night was based on Washington peace demonstrations. It is in reference to a famous poem by Mathew Arnold.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:41PM) : Right

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Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:34AM) : It was an illustration for the tumult that achieved a definitive popularity earned via Mailer and his capacity to expound on the disarray happening on the planet

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:50PM) : illustration of

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But Mailer's inability to produce an incontestable masterpiece after "The Executioner's Song" hurt his reputation — as did continuing attacks from feminist critics. His fraught personal life, as well as his treatment of women in fiction, made certain readers dismiss him out of hand. He seemed a relic of a macho age.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:31PM) : What other writers fits into the macho age? And what does that phrase mean?

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 09 2014 6:45PM) : Ernest Hemigway would fit under the description of the macho age writer. more

Ernest Hemigway would fit under the description of the macho age writer. This phrase refers to a masculinity, an age where male writers prevailed.

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Stephanie Kotsikonas Stephanie Kotsikonas (Sep 10 2014 1:36AM) : Macho age writers more

I agree that Hemingway would also be considered a macho age writer, but I think it’s about more than just coming out on top over women in writing. The macho age writer would demonstrate his masculinity in all areas of his life, including his personal life, his hobbies, and his general attitude. Hemingway, for example, demonstrated his masculinity in his every day speech, in the anecdotes and stories he told, and in his hobby as a hunter.

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Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 10 2014 2:08AM) : Mailer more

In this context it also suggests that Mailer was rather pro male dominance in a social context as well as his writings which would also explain the phrase macho age

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:43PM) : That's right: macho is a way of life as well as a literary style.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:42PM) : Where macho prevailed and was considered the standard by which the writer measured himself.

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Zelene Pineda Suchilt Zelene Pineda Suchilt (Sep 12 2014 1:54AM) : Hemingway reads feminist though more

Hemingway’s gift was the way he brought out the dignity in his characters and in his voice. Despite his being an athletic and masculine voice, it is also an honest and vulnerable voice. The women in his stories are dignified, brave and adult. a finesse not all writers possess.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:10PM) : Many women don't like Mailer or Hemingway. Why?

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Student Vince Brigante Student Vince Brigante (Sep 12 2014 6:29PM) : It's very possible because of that 'macho' attitude itself. Mailer was listed for having 6 wives, and Hemingway had a few also I believe. Mailer was also known to be bery aggressive even though he was a relatively 'small' guy. more

I’m sure some of that aggression carried over into his writing potentially leading women away from it.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:49PM) : Some women object to his women characters.

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Mr. Douglas Cosgriff Mr. Douglas Cosgriff (Sep 10 2014 4:10PM) : Hemingway fits into the macho age. I believe that it wasn't so much as a real thing as it was something that the writer proclaimed himself. more

Both in everyday life and in writing, this type of person is separating themselves from ideas that could be considered elitist. Also, Mailer’s obvious view of females in his position show that he viewed his masculinity as something that made him better.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 11 2014 2:04PM) : Yes, what some women--and men--don't like about Mailer is a macho sense of superiority--although he often undercuts that with self-deprecating humor.

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Jason Javaherian Jason Javaherian (Sep 12 2014 5:28AM) : two sides more

A theme in the piece is Mailer’s personal vs, professional side. Did Mailer seek to inject himself into the narrative of his works, or was this more a creation of his critics? In other words did he self-promote and use the media to his advantage.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:10PM) : He certainly self-promoted.

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Tristan Bolano Tristan Bolano (Sep 12 2014 5:37PM) : Similarities more

It’s clear that both Mailer and Hemingway seek to capture this masculinity in their writings since it was a clear reflection of their own personas and life. It would not surprise me if Mailer became a similar figure to the macho one portrayed in Lillian Ross’ ‘Portrait of Hemingway’

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:50PM) : There are similarities, although Mailer was more apt to make fun of himself.

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Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:36AM) : Old Tradition Men writers who believe women should be a house wife and then men do all the work

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:51PM) : Not exactly. Mailer's wives worked outside the home. They all had careers.

Nov 19

MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:53AM) : the phase Macho age is describing a time when Men did not have to worry about he opinion a woman may have about their work. It hurt Mailer acting the way he did because he was in a different era.

Dec 16

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:27PM) : What you are describing is an aspect f macho, but not the main definition of it.

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Chanelle Perrin Chanelle Perrin (Mar 27 2015 5:43PM) : Interesting to see that he wanted to shed the image of good Jewish boy to such an extreme that he alienates a majority of his female audience. [Edited]

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It could be said that Mailer was the last Romantic. He invested figures as diverse as John F. Kennedy and Fidel Castro with a magical aura akin to Thomas Carlyle's worshipful great man theory of history. Mailer liked to put on the gloves, to step in the ring with the likes of Muhammad Ali (the subject of one of Mailer's best books, "The Fight").

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MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:58AM) : This phase is being used because THe writer is relating a message based off what he has heard about the person they're writing about. A more direct approach is not being used because the author is not sure if it is true.

Dec 16

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:29PM) : Confusing. Which writer? Both the author of the book and the reviewer know more than what they have heard about Mailer.

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Aug 25

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:31PM) : What is the effect of beginning the paragraph with "It could be said" Why not use a more direct phrase?

Sep 7

Brittani Scott Brittani Scott (Sep 07 2014 7:08PM) : "It could be said" more

The effect of the author using this sort of redundancy is to extend what he is trying to say. It is normally unnecessary for a writer to place this kind of beginning to a paragraph. Maybe this was some sort of way for the writer to make the reader see that Norman Mailer was seen to be one of the last Romantics.

Sep 8

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 08 2014 12:59PM) : But why say "it is said" Focus on why that phrase is used. Why doesn't the reviewer express his own opinion directly? [Edited]

Sep 8

Julia Howe Julia Howe (Sep 08 2014 8:34PM) : It would be a biased article then, if the the reviewer inserted his opinion.

Sep 9

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 09 2014 1:05PM) : An article can be biased without making a direct statement of opinion. And surely this article expresses an opinion or point of view about the writer.

Sep 10

Student Michelle Gontar Student Michelle Gontar (Sep 10 2014 2:11AM) : It could be said more

This phrase could have been used because the author didn’t necessarily agree with the fact that Mailer was the last Romantic, or simply because there is no exact way to see for sure who was the exact last Romantic and it is all up for personal opinion/discussion.

Sep 10

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:44PM) : Very good. "It could be said" leaves the comment open and subject to debate.

Mar 27

Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:54PM) : Usually biographies are biased. Based on how the author felt about the subject they are speaking about. That line allows for the reader to agree or disagree. It gives flexibility to the readers.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:42PM) : Biographies have a bias, which is not the same thing as saying they are biased. Do you see the difference?

Sep 10

Mr. Douglas Cosgriff Mr. Douglas Cosgriff (Sep 10 2014 4:10PM) : It leaves room for argument.

Sep 11

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 11 2014 2:04PM) : Good point. It allows the reader to think differently.

Sep 12

Zelene Pineda Suchilt Zelene Pineda Suchilt (Sep 12 2014 1:57AM) : It's up for debate more

The Last Romantic is a competitive title, many would protest to Mailer being the reigning “Last…”

Sep 12

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:11PM) : Provocative title.

Sep 12

Sebastian Lema Sebastian Lema (Sep 12 2014 11:18AM) : A general opinion that many may have. He wants to separate fact from opinion. [Edited]

Sep 12

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:12PM) : Right.

Sep 12

Thomas Moy Thomas Moy (Sep 12 2014 5:51PM) : It's quite a statement for an obituary more

“It could be said” lets the reader agree or disagree with the statement without offending a person who may think otherwise. I believe it is important to not polarize the reader by disrespecting [in the reader’s eyes] the person the obituary is for.

Sep 13

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:51PM) : "It could be said" is tactful.

Sep 12

Deena Farrell Deena Farrell (Sep 12 2014 6:32PM) : "It could be said" more

The phrase “it could be said” is used to express the opinions of Mailer by some people. It is not a definite fact that Mailer was the last Romantic. Some could even disagree and claim he wasn’t a Romantic at all.

Sep 13

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:51PM) : Right. "It could be said" leaves the issue open.

Mar 26

Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:36PM) : The phrase "it could be said" gets the reader into the argument. Just like a rhetorical question, it gets the reader thinking and it also shows that the author is not bias.

Mar 27

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:57AM) : A less definite way of putting the point.

Mar 27

Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:52PM) : It shows an opinion. It allows for disagreement.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:42PM) : Yes

Mar 28

Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:37AM) : A general feeling that numerous may have. He needs to divided fact from opinion.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:51PM) : Not numerous but many.

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Critics often complained that Mailer spent entirely too much time on such public antics. They merely diverted him from writing better novels. But Mailer's life and work suggests otherwise.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:32PM) : This paragraph on the critics is typical of an obituary. If this was not an obituary, how might the phrasing be different?

Sep 10

Mr. Douglas Cosgriff Mr. Douglas Cosgriff (Sep 10 2014 4:12PM) : It is possible that it may have been much harder on Mailer, rather than say that his critics' view of his work is open to interpretation.

Sep 11

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 11 2014 2:05PM) : Yes, the obituary form tends to make for at least a somewhat gentler approach to the subject--although there are exceptions, of course.

Sep 12

Tristan Bolano Tristan Bolano (Sep 12 2014 5:42PM) : Being that an obituary is posthumous, there should probably be some sense of respect for the person. If anyone is to draw criticisms about this person after reading, it would probably be based on their own research or opinions.

Sep 13

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:52PM) : Don't ever use "being that." The word to use is "since."

Sep 12

Thomas Moy Thomas Moy (Sep 12 2014 5:53PM) : cold more

“Critics often complained that Mailer wasted his time doing things that he has no business doing rather than focusing on what he does best …”

Sep 13

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:52PM) : cold?

Sep 12

Deena Farrell Deena Farrell (Sep 12 2014 6:40PM) : If this was not an obituary the phrasing of this paragraph may explain the way in critics thought that Mailer's public antics affected his writing.

Sep 13

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:53PM) : Quite possibly.

Mar 26

Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:39PM) : If not an obituary, the phrasing might have continued to leave Mailer's life open to argument, but the author switches gears from the previous paragraph and states that his life and worth suggest otherwise from his novels.

Mar 27

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:58AM) : I'm not clear about your last sentence.

Mar 27

Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 27 2015 10:57PM) : In the 12th paragraph, more is expressed about his the lows in his career and how many people criticized him. Then the tone of the piece changes in the 14th paragraph and it shows that the critics were a stepping stone to the successes he gained. more

Basically what I’m trying to say is that because it is an obituary, it looks at the negatives with a positive perspective. If it wasn’t an obituary, it would have continued to stay in the tone of the 12th paragraph, more critical.

Mar 27

Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:56PM) : If gives it a milder approach. Had it not been an obituary, it wouldn't accuse the critics of diverting him from writing better novels. It also would not include "But Mailer's life and works suggest otherwise."

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:43PM) : Maybe not.

Mar 28

Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:38AM) : It would examine a greater amount of what faultfinders needed to say took after by what Mailer needed to say in regards to his commentators.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:52PM) : Hard to follow

Nov 19

MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 1:59AM) : It would discuss more of what critics had to say followed by what Mailer had to say about his critics.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:30PM) : Right

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In his own mind, he could not be a writer without also being so much more.

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Aug 25 2014 3:32PM) : Explain the last gnomic sentence.

Sep 10

Stephanie Kotsikonas Stephanie Kotsikonas (Sep 10 2014 1:20AM) : The last sentence of the article... more

The last sentence of the article is saying that Mailer believed that the person he was outside of his writing played an important role in his work. He believed that he had to lead a life outside of his career and be a person apart from being just a writer. His “separate lives” were not really separate at all, but complements of each other.

Sep 10

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 10 2014 1:45PM) : A very good analysis of one sentence which also shows how much can be said about one sentence if it is composed in such a way as to invite comment.

Sep 12

Jason Javaherian Jason Javaherian (Sep 12 2014 5:23AM) : So much more more

The use of “so much more” leaves this open view in my mind. It makes me think that Mailer had a tremendous amount to offer, and his critics misunderstood him.

Sep 12

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:12PM) : Right.

Sep 12

Zelene Pineda Suchilt Zelene Pineda Suchilt (Sep 12 2014 2:00AM) : A life well lived more

So many writers spend much of their lives inside a room. Mailer wanted to be well known during his lifetime and make history by having an exciting and engaging life.

Sep 12

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 12 2014 1:13PM) : Exactly.

Sep 12

Thomas Moy Thomas Moy (Sep 12 2014 6:02PM) : creative [Edited] more

I can relate with this sentence as I am a person who values creative pursuits. I feel that even though I channel my artistic and creative efforts into writing ; I feel like I cannot be the writer I am without the other stakes I am making in my other creative pursuits in culinary and craft. From the article, you learn that Mailer had put time and effort into non-writing efforts, and not doing particularly well. However this last gnomish sentence ends on a satisfying and respectful node to Mailer’s thoughts. In the end, it is not to our judgement, as for Mailer was satisfied that he made an impact outside of his literary works.

Sep 13

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Sep 13 2014 8:54PM) : Yes, the review returns to what Mailer thought of himself.

Mar 26

Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:41PM) : Miller didn't want to follow the status quote of how a typical writer should live his or her life. I believe his personal life and his writing life were two separate worlds but they influenced each other. In other wards, his life influenced his writing.

Mar 27

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:59AM) : And vice versa

Mar 27

Aaron Ferrer Aaron Ferrer (Mar 27 2015 6:39AM) : It means he did not want to confine himself to just writing, he wanted to do his work and get the recognition he felt he deserved,but he also wanted to have a life outside of writing that he enjoyed.

Mar 27

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 11:59AM) : Ok

Mar 27

Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:59PM) : It summarizes his life in a single sentence. He was more than a writer because his experience in life allowed him to be.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:44PM) : Yes, and newspaper readers are looking for a quick summing up.

Mar 27

Jacaline Intravaia Jacaline Intravaia (Mar 27 2015 7:02PM) : The last sentence really makes you feel like his life meant something, both to his readers, and to Mailer himself. Because life experience inspired his writing, and ultimately his writing honored his time on earth - you get the sense that Mailer more

might feel as if he left behind a substaintial legacy.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:45PM) : The last sentence has to pack a lot of meaning.

Mar 28

Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:42AM) : Such a large number of authors spend a bit in their lives inside a cell. Mailer needed to be remarkable, impact the world forever by having an energizing and connecting with the world.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:52PM) : Good point

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MR. Darrell Morrison MR. Darrell Morrison (Nov 19 2014 2:07AM) : This last sentence is a bit confusing but I believe that he had to be more than a writer in order to the type of writer he was.

Dec 16

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2014 1:31PM) : Your restated the last sentence very well.

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Mr. Rollyson is author of "The Lives of Norman Mailer."

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Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Jan 27 2015 9:44PM) : What advantages and disadvantages are there to using the obituary as a form of biography?

Mar 26

Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 26 2015 8:46PM) : Obituaries are one of the most unique forms of literature ever written. One of the advantages of obituaries is that they can really capture someone's life, if written well. more

However, if not written well, they won’t do justice to someone’s life. I believe writing your own obituary would be the most compelling than if someone else writes it for you, but sometimes you need that outside perspective. Overall, the disadvantage is misconstruing someone’s life and not getting their successes and failures across to the reader.

Mar 27

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 27 2015 12:01PM) : Unique means one of a kind. So nothing can be most unique.

Mar 27

Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 4:01PM) : Maybe not unique, But it can be different. Which can be good or bad depending on how it is delivered.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:44PM) : true

Mar 27

Alicea Ulmer Alicea Ulmer (Mar 27 2015 3:17PM) : An advantage of using an obituary as a form of biography is that it is positive. Obituaries usually highlight the positive stuff that took place in the course of the subjects life. However, the negative is that information can be used wrong. more

Also the deceased cannot dispute any wrong information.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:40PM) : Obituaries do tend to accentuate the positive, but they can include negative judgments of the subject and should if the obituary is to be taken seriously.

Mar 27

Jacaline Intravaia Jacaline Intravaia (Mar 27 2015 7:12PM) : Using obituaries as a form of biography can help tell a broader story. Often times, an obituary acts as a tribute to the deceased. I think this can result in an entertaining form of biographical text because it really touches on a person's overall mark more

or impression they made during their time here; whether it be on a particular industry, the lives of others, and/or their own personal journey. Also, one’s achievements are often viewed differently after they die. This would be interesting to include in a biography and can be very artistically revealing.

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:46PM) : Your last point--about viewing the subject differently after death is important.

Mar 28

Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) Junior Martinez (JRN 3900) (Mar 28 2015 2:46AM) : It could be bias because usually a obituary is praising the good life someone had, never mentioning the bad, It is like a press release for a company with good reports

Mar 28

Professor Carl Rollyson Professor Carl Rollyson (Mar 28 2015 3:53PM) : Obituaries are generally more truthful than press releases.

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