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Native American mascots: Pride or prejudice?

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By Moni Basu, CNN

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(CNN) – Suzan Shown Harjo remembers when she walked into a store with her grandfather in El Reno, Oklahoma. She wanted to get something cool to drink on a summer day. It was the early 1950s and the storekeepers told the 6-year-old she had to leave.

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“No black redskins in here,” they said.

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Layza Hiciano (Sep 23 2014 10:41AM) : i think this is very racist more

naming Indians black redskins is very racist instead of this name the easier name is Indians

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Shakira Pineda (Sep 23 2014 11:30AM) : i agree with you more

you can’t spell that good , but i agree with what you said.

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Ronny Morales (Nov 13 2014 7:33AM) : I agree more

These people are going to far with this racist stuff and they should stop

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George Mendoza (Nov 13 2014 8:08AM) : I agree more

I think we are all equel

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KYANA CHISHOLM (Nov 13 2014 8:29AM) : I totally agree more

i do as well being the fact that redskins and other is not so different we are all equal no one is any better then the other.

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Cindy Rodriguez (Sep 23 2014 10:54AM) : There are saying that there are no black redskin in here more

i think that this is raises because there are not red skin there normal just like uss

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Shakira Pineda (Sep 23 2014 11:31AM) : i agree more

we are all and should be looked at as equal

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Moses Ortiz (Sep 23 2014 11:38AM) : I agree with you
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Danny Garcia (Sep 29 2014 11:43AM) : i agree [Edited] more
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Catherin Taveras (Sep 23 2014 10:56AM) : Thus means that people with different colored skin cannot go into the store more

i think this is racist and not fair why cant colored people be treated the same as white people there still human

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Shakira Pineda (Sep 23 2014 11:32AM) : i'm lost at this sentence more

white , black people, Chinese people should all be treated the same!

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Deanna Alvarado (Sep 24 2014 11:37AM) : i agree with you because its true
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Danny Garcia (Sep 29 2014 11:44AM) : i agree
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Ronny Morales (Nov 13 2014 7:32AM) : I agree more

Right white people think that because they are white its okay ti treat others like that

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George Mendoza (Nov 13 2014 8:20AM) : I agree
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Kymani West (Sep 24 2014 11:50AM) : she saying that black people aren't allowed were she was at or going more

thats odee

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Ronny Morales (Sep 29 2014 11:03AM) : Suggested Revision more Tags: wording

Suggested new wording:

“No black redskins in here,” they said.

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Trenasia Lee (Oct 09 2014 10:42AM) : They are saying that because of the people color they not allowed. more

I feel like that’s disrespectful and why judge a person that’s just embarrassing and very immature

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Ronny Morales (Nov 10 2014 10:34AM) : This is racist more

They said no black redskins in here and its racist because its describing no black here

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At that moment, Harjo felt small, unsafe, afraid. Because she was a dark-skinned Native American Cheyenne and Hodulgee Muscogee she was being identified by just her coloring. She wasn’t even a whole human being. Not even her grandpa, whom she saw as all-powerful, could do anything to protect her.

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Trenasia Lee (Oct 09 2014 10:49AM) : Harjo feels like people are judging her from every direction and people aren't accepting her for what she is. more

This is a disgrace because like people have feelings people shouldn’t be treated like animals.

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KYANA CHISHOLM (Nov 13 2014 8:39AM) : threntend. more

being the fact that she is being restricted in place its pretty a “indelible moment” for Harjo

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Ashley Martinnez (Sep 23 2014 10:48AM) : They did not want a dark skin native american in their store. more

If i was her i would feel scared and unsafe and embarrassed because they’re telling me to get out of their store and they are yelling at a little 6 year old.

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Deanna Alvarado (Sep 24 2014 11:35AM) : i agree with you
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Trenasia Lee (Sep 29 2014 10:44AM) : i agree with you more

i feel like that’s very hurtful knowing that your not accepted for who you are or what you look like its a very confusing reason to dislike someone.

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Trenasia Lee (Oct 07 2014 10:54AM) : I agree more

I agree because they judging people and disrespecting people for what they look like and not for who they are.

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George Mendoza (Nov 13 2014 8:13AM) : I agree more

I agree because i think we shouldn’t be judged by ower racist.

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Ronny Morales (Sep 23 2014 10:58AM) : They were hating on native american more

I think this is very disrespectful because we should respect each other

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George Mendoza (Nov 13 2014 8:18AM) : I agree [Edited] more

I agree with bombiyo

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Deanna Alvarado (Sep 29 2014 11:47AM) : Harjo felt small, unsafe, afraid. Because she was a dark-skinned Native American more

If i was her i will be mad because nobody should ever fill like that just because of there skin color.

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Ronny Morales (Nov 12 2014 10:47AM) : No respect more

People need to think first when goin to say something

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Later in her life, that incident made her angry. Angry enough for Harjo to launch a lifelong mission to protect her people.

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Trenasia Lee (Oct 09 2014 10:54AM) : i agree more

I agree because i would do the exact same thing like help out my people

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Part of her work took aim at sporting teams that use Native Americans as mascots. With the start of the baseball season this week, some of those teams have been front and center. The Cleveland Indians, for instance, feature a smiling Indian dubbed Chief Wahoo, criticized by Native Americans as a racist caricature.

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Ashley Martinnez (Sep 19 2014 1:58PM) : native americans adn mascots more

Whats so bad about using other teams using native American names and mascots.

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Yelitza Sanchez (Sep 23 2014 1:32PM) : native americas more

is a rude racess and it makes pepole feel bad is like the same thing with mexicans is not nice

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Trenasia Lee (Oct 09 2014 1:51PM) : I agree more

Like at least they not throwing shit at the Indian are like disrespecting them with racial slurs or gestures

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Ronny Morales (Nov 13 2014 10:29AM) : I agree more

Theres nothing wrong people are just bad

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Ronny Morales (Nov 13 2014 10:27AM) : Disrespect more

This is a disrespect they would not liked if they were indians

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George Mendoza (Nov 13 2014 11:15AM) : I agree
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The most offensive example of a mascot, says Harjo, is the one used by Washington’s football team. She has been fighting for years to get the Redskins to change their name.

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The R-word she can’t even bring herself to say it is the same as the N-word, says Harjo, president of Morning Star Institute, a national Native American rights organization.

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She finds it unbelievable that more than half a century after she was told to get out of that El Reno store, after decades of civil rights struggles and progress on race relations, Americans have no problem with rooting for a team called the Redskins.

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KYANA CHISHOLM (Nov 13 2014 8:24AM) : not taking it serious. more

In America there are so many different types of nationalities but for some reason they dont really take it to serious about the teams and mascots and stuff

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Fans say the name is an honorific. But the Merriam-Webster dictionary says this: “The word redskin is very offensive and should be avoided.” And to many Native Americans, nothing could be more derogatory than the use of that word.

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“The Washington team it’s the king of the mountain,” Harjo says. “When this one goes, others will.”

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The controversy over Native American names in sports is longstanding and surfaces in headlines now and then, as it did in December when the Atlanta Braves baseball team was reportedly considering bringing back a dated “screaming Indian” logo for batting practice caps.

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Or when Amanda Blackhorse, a 31-year-old Navajo social worker, went to Washington last month to attend a hearing of the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. She has petitioned to cancel the Redskins trademark on grounds that the name is racist. Harjo filed a similar petition in 1992 and won, but she later lost in the appeals process.

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Harjo was defeated in the courts, but public opinion has been shifting steadily on the matter.

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Trenasia Lee (Oct 09 2014 10:59AM) : I feel bad more

Like why wouldn’t they let her win.She was trying to do whats right.

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In March, several lawmakers introduced a bill in Congress that would amend the Trademark Act of 1946 to ban the term “redskin” in a mark because it is disparaging of native people. Among the sponsors of the bill is civil rights activist Rep. John Lewis, D-Georgia.

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Harjo says she hopes the legislation will accomplish what litigation has failed to do so far.

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If passed, the bill would force the Washington football team to discard its trademarked name and ban the use of any offensive term in any future trademarks.

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Proponents believe that Native American mascots pay homage to the people and help promote a better understanding of those who dominated America before Europeans landed.

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The Cleveland Indians mascot, Chief Wahoo, has been criticized as a racist caricature.

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KYANA CHISHOLM (Nov 13 2014 8:35AM) : misunderstanding? more

in the other paragraph it says that its a form of appreciation but are all the people in the team are native american? maybe its offensive because they’re not all indians… or if they are then their probably not dark skinned.

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Layza Hiciano (Oct 09 2014 10:45AM) : not exeptional more

I would also criticize this photo because they gave this mascot a really dark red color and that’s disrespecting Indians, known as native american

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But opponents say the mascots perpetuate stereotypes that are void of context and history. They argue that even if the mascots themselves are not racially insensitive, they portray native people as one-dimensional.

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“A good many Americans don’t know any Indians,” says Kevin Gover, who heads the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of the American Indian.

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“The Indian you see most often in Washington, D.C., is at a football game at the expense of real Indians, real history, real culture. The petty stereotype has become expected.”

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In February, the Smithsonian museum hosted a symposium on racist stereotypes and cultural appropriation in American sports. The idea was to make people think about how these stereotypes can be damaging to Indians.

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“Kids grow up and think it’s OK,” Gover says. “It’s not OK.”

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Yelitza Sanchez (Sep 19 2014 10:48AM) : this is about when u go to games and u see indains stuff kids and some pepole think that is okay and is not okay to use that
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There used to be more than 3,000 teams with Native American names and mascots. That’s down to about 900 now but that’s still 900 too many for Gover.

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He grew up, also in Oklahoma, and recalled how the University of Oklahoma became the first collegiate team to drop its unofficial mascot, Little Red, a student who dressed as an Indian chief and danced on the sidelines during football games.

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Protests on campus forced the demise of Little Red. In 2005, Oklahoma adopted two costumed horses, Boomer and Sooner, as mascots who represented the real horses that pulled the Sooner Schooner. But many students didn’t take to them.

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One of them was Royce Young, who wrote about the university’s “mascot crisis” in an online forum in 2007:

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“But why can’t OU bring back Little Red? Oklahoma prides itself on being ‘Native America.’ American Indian heritage is something that is more prevalent in this state than any other in the nation. Would it be so wrong to have Native American imagery representing ‘Native America?’ "

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Young, 27, and a writer for CBS Sports, said he now believes he would have written a more educated post after having discussed the mascot issue with Native Americans.

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"I wouldn’t say I regret writing it,” he said. “But I’d be much more sensitive of understanding why Little Red was insensitive to some instead of saying, ‘What’s the big deal?’

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Royce said he saw nothing wrong with Oklahoma honoring its native people, but not with a tasteless mascot.

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Several college teams followed Oklahoma’s footsteps and dropped Native American mascots Stanford and Syracuse among them.

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The movement to do away with Indian mascots gained momentum after theAmerican Psychological Association in 2005 called for the immediate retirement of the mascots based on studies that showed the harmful effects of inaccurate racial portrayals.

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The following year, the NCAA, the governing body of collegiate sports, adopted a policy banning teams with “hostile or abusive racial/ethnic/national origin mascots, nicknames or imagery” from competition. The ban affected high-powered football schools such as Florida State University with Chief Osceola and the University of Illinois, whose official symbol was Chief Illiniwek.

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Some states have put the morality of the Indian mascots up for a vote.

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Last year, voters dumped the University of North Dakota's Fighting Sioux mascot.And Oregon prohibited public schools from the use of Native American names, symbols or images. The names on the banned list include: Redskins, Savages, Indians, Indianettes, Chiefs and Braves.

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At Florida State University, a white man dresses up as Chief Osceola, smears war paint on his face and rides an appaloosa called Renegade to the middle of Doak Campbell Stadium. He plants a burning spear on the field before every home game. The marching band plays Indian-themed music, and the crowd goes wild doing the “tomahawk chop,” a move picked up by the Atlanta Braves.

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FSU student Lincoln Golike, who played Osceola in 2002, told the Florida State Times back then that it was tremendous honor to have so many admiring fans.

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The Seminole tribe in Florida made an agreement with FSU to allow the use of its name that allows the university to continue competing in the NCAA. The university says its relationship with the Seminole tribe is one of mutual respect.

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However, the Seminole nation in Oklahoma, comprised of the descendants of a majority of the Seminoles forced from their lands by the Indian Removal Act, has voiced its opposition to FSU’s mascot.

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The real Chief Osceola fought U.S. soldiers in the Seminole Wars. He was captured in 1837 under a flag of truce and died in prison. Before his burial, the soldiers chopped off the head of the Indian warrior to keep as a trophy. That Osceola serves as a mascot at FSU doesn’t sit well with the Seminoles in Oklahoma and many other Native Americans.

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“Native Americans feel offended, they feel hurt. They feel their identity is being trivialized,” says Carol Spindel, who wrote “Dancing at Halftime,” a book that explored native mascots.

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“This is such an ingrained part of American culture that it’s very hard to get people to question it,” says Spindel, a professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, where the official symbol used to be Chief Illiniwek. He was the subject of debate for decades and made his last appearance in 2007 under the threat of NCAA sanctions.

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Noah Burton (Sep 23 2014 2:01PM) : people are not sure about a football team more

native Americans should be valued in history not in sports

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Destiny Delgado (Oct 01 2014 2:46PM) : Natives more

Why can’t Native americans be valued in both, I mean it’s like not being valued in sports is bad…

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But five years later, there are still some who want Illiniwek back. A nonbinding student referendum held just weeks ago strongly favored making him the official mascot again.

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Spindel concluded in her book that mascots such as Chief Illiniwek were a reflection not of native people but of those who invented them.

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“If we do a census of the population in our collective imagination, imaginary Indians are one of the largest demographic groups,” Spindel writes in her book.

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“They dance, they drum, they go on the warpath; they are always young men who wear trailing feather bonnets. Symbolic servants, they serve as mascots and metaphors. We rely on these images to anchor us to the land and verify our account of our own past. But as these Indians exist only in our own imaginations, they provide a solipsistic connection and leave us, ultimately, untethered and rootless.”

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Noah Burton (Oct 01 2014 2:44PM) : this is about how people like to be in FOOT BALL more

let indien be n history but there could be in foot ball

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Yelitza Sanchez (Sep 19 2014 1:55PM) : this is about what theyu do waht they wear symbolic servants that indians only estist in our imaginations more

i thik this is not true and is so wroong period

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At 67, Harjo believes she has made strides in her struggle to do away with racial stereotypes but says Native Americans have a long way to go.

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“Because we as Indians, we don’t have the numbers,” she says, referring to the dwindling population. The latest census listed 2.9 million people as American Indian and Alaska Native.

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“So we don’t pose a threat,” she says. “If we organized a march, the numbers would be so small. We’ve done it school by school. State by state.”

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Harjo knows if the powerful Washington football team is forced to discard its name, then everyone else will follow. But for now, she takes pride in small victories.

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Just a few weeks ago, a high school in Cooperstown, New York, decided to retire its R-word mascot.

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C.J. Hebert, superintendent for the Cooperstown Central School District, said students approached him regarding their discomfort with the mascot that had been around for decades.

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“I do think that times change and perspectives change, and certainly it’s historically a time for us to reconsider what the name is,” Hebert said.

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That’s a statement that makes Harjo feel her campaign has been worthwhile.

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Tell us what you think about Native American names and mascots below.

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DMU Timestamp: September 17, 2014 22:45

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Yelitza Sanchez (Sep 19 2014 10:47AM) : this is about pepole trying to cahnge redskin names becuase they think is bad and they think mascot is way beetter more

i think they should take both names of becuase it just wrong period

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