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[1 of 5] Their Eyes Were Watching God, Chapters 1-4, by Zora Neale Hurston (1937)

Author: Zora Neale Hurston

“Chapters 1 - 4.” Their Eyes Were Watching God, by Zora Neale Hurston et al., Harper Perennial Modern Classics, 2013. Originally published by J. B. Lippincott on September 18, 1937.


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To Henry Allen Moe

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Ships at a distance have every man’s wish on board. For some they come in with the tide. For others they sail forever on the horizon, never out of sight, never landing until the Watcher turns his eyes away in resignation, his dreams mocked to death by Time. That is the life of men.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:00PM) : Juxtaposition of diction more

This first paragraph seems to be juxtaposed with the rest of the piece; this first selection seems almost mythical and surreal, while the following paragraphs utilize casual vernacular and blunt descriptions.

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Diego P Diego P (May 08 2024 12:32PM) : Este texto trata de atraer la atención del lector mediante la imaginación lo cuál es fantástico,debido a que se utiliza como un gancho para poder obtener la atención e interés del lector
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Natalia A Natalia A (May 11 2024 8:36PM) : Los "barcos a distancia" simbolizan los sueños y aspiraciones de la humanidad, que están siempre presentes pero pueden manifestarse de manera diferente para cada individuo.
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Natalia A Natalia A (May 11 2024 8:39PM) : Janie, al reflexionar sobre su juventud y sus primeras experiencias románticas, reconoce cómo han cambiado y evolucionado con el tiempo, y cómo su percepción de ellas también ha cambiado. Esto puede ser parte de su proceso de maduración y autoconocimiento
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Now, women forget all those things they don’t want to remember, and remember everything they don’t want to forget. The dream is the truth. Then they act and do things accordingly.

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ADDISON C ADDISON C (Apr 11 2024 11:31AM) : resilience of women more

This line holds great significance, and I feel like it reflects the idea that women have the power to choose exactly what memories to hold onto, and what memories to let go of. It speaks to the resilience and strength of women as they choose their own experiences.

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So the beginning of this was a woman and she had come back from burying the dead. Not the dead of sick and ailing with friends at the pillow and the feet. She had come back from the sodden and the bloated; the sudden dead, their eyes flung wide open in judgment.

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The people all saw her come because it was sundown. The sun was gone, but he had left his footprints in the sky. It was the time for sitting on porches beside the road. It was the time to hear things and talk. These sitters had been tongueless, earless, eyeless conveniences all day long. Mules and other brutes had occupied their skins. But now, the sun and the bossman were gone, so the skins felt powerful and human. They became lords of sounds and lesser things. They passed nations through their mouths. They sat in judgment.

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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:23PM) : Porches more

Paragraph 6 establishes the importance of porches to the people of the town, as it serves as a place of community where work, pressure and stress are not found. The people of the town are able to be themselves and discuss what they want on their porches.

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Krystal M Krystal M (Mar 17 2024 11:13PM) : . more

Initially, the community of people who sit on porches are usually either grody men or nosy gossips, but later when Janie sits on the porch with Pheoby, it shows that she has a place where she can share her own story.

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Julia E Julia E (Mar 17 2024 11:22PM) : porches more

To add to your idea, porches showcase this balance of hospitality and separation. Janie sits on her back porch, away from eyes, to the point that Pheoby has to go in through the back like it’s a secret. Nonetheless, Janie welcome her and they end up sitting comfortably with the breeze. I think the idea of porches showing relationships within the book is going to become more prevalent once we hear the stories with Janie’s past husbands.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:06PM) : Metaphors and their effectiveness more

I think that by utilizing extensive metaphors, Hurston is able to emphasize the importance of the porches to the people of this town. The constant allusions and lack of direct/blunt diction highlight the changes that occur in town at sundown.

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 3:14PM) : Unwavering Presence of Men more

“The people all saw her come because it was sundown. The sun was gone, but he had left his footprints in the sky.” These two sentences paint an idea that illustrates how, even in the time of women, there is still the shadow of men’s influence.

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Seeing the woman as she was made them remember the envy they had stored up from other times. So they chewed up the back parts of their minds and swallowed with relish. They made burning statements with questions, and killing tools out of laughs. It was mass cruelty. A mood come alive. Words walking without masters; walking altogether like harmony in a song.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:38PM) : The comments that the men make feel pointed toward Janie, her experience might be not completely reliable here but it is interesting how Hurston shows the men's POVs.
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“What she doin’ coming back here in dem overhalls? Can’t she find no dress to put on?—Where’s dat blue satin dress she left here in?—Where all dat money her husband took and died and left her?—What dat ole forty year ole ’oman doin’ wid her hair swingin’ down her back lak some young gal?—Where she left dat young lad of a boy she went off here wid?—Thought she was going to marry?—Where he left her?—What he done wid all her money?—Betcha he off wid some gal so young she ain’t even got no hairs—why she don’t stay in her class?—”

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 4:53PM) : I think that it is so interesting how language plays an important role in the novel. It give such a raw and real aspect to the characters stories and life in general. more

The book does an amazing job of making it seem like its full of stories of several people, not just from one person.

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 17 2024 11:38PM) : I agree! the use of vernacular gives this novel's characters such depth. I also think its a really interesting way to develop the setting of the story and show the culture of these people to the reader without necessarily having to explain it
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Krystal M Krystal M (Mar 17 2024 11:03PM) : . more

Janie walks away from the questioning townsfolk leaving them to wonder instead of giving in to their questions and derision. Her simple clothes, messy hair, and aloofness all show that Janie no longer cares what these people think.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:39PM) : The 'talk' of the town makes Janie an interesting figure immediately and how the their talk shows how people interact with each other - the gossiping nature of them - and how that adds to conflict.
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Coen I Coen I (Mar 18 2024 1:06AM) : I think this manages to establish the culture and attitudes of the society within the text in the standards they hold others to and treatment of those that fall out of favor, while also forcing readers to understand characters from a fragmented narrative. more

This effectively implements the reader into the situation themselves, having to rely on a patchwork image of a character through others accounts, and even building the traits of the characters gossiping through their attitudes and the things they say

When she got to where they were she turned her face on the bander log and spoke. They scrambled a noisy “good evenin’ ” and left their mouths setting open and their ears full of hope. Her speech was pleasant enough, but she kept walking straight on to her gate. The porch couldn’t talk for looking.

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 4:56PM) : I have never read a book with the addition of this technique of dialect. These long passages really illustrate Janie's culture and her experience as a black person.
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The men noticed her firm buttocks like she had grape fruits in her hip pockets; the great rope of black hair swinging to her waist and unraveling in the wind like a plume; then her pugnacious breasts trying to bore holes in her shirt. They, the men, were saving with the mind what they lost with the eye. The women took the faded shirt and muddy overalls and laid them away for remembrance. It was a weapon against her strength and if it turned out of no significance, still it was a hope that she might fall to their level some day.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:16PM) : Men vs Women's POV more

The visceral and sexual view of the men compared to the superficial/clothing-related views of the women speaks volumes!! It highlights the differences in what is deemed to be ‘important’ or worth judging by those in this town.

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 3:23PM) : I agree. I think it's a powerful juxtaposition but the two thoughts between the women and men work in twisted harmony.
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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 17 2024 11:42PM) : I think this sentence is just stunning. We learn so much about Janie in this sentence alone. Not only do the other women of the town dislike her and look for ways to tear her down, but we learn that it is because they are jealous of her strength and of more

perceived ‘above-ness.’ For some reason, Janie is above these women and they wish to bring her back down

But nobody moved, nobody spoke, nobody even thought to swallow spit until after her gate slammed behind her.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:40PM) : This sentence is just super powerful.
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Pearl Stone opened her mouth and laughed real hard because she didn’t know what else to do. She fell all over Mrs. Sumpkins while she laughed. Mrs. Sumpkins snorted violently and sucked her teeth.

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“Humph! Y’all let her worry yuh. You ain’t like me. Ah ain’t got her to study ’bout. If she ain’t got manners enough to stop and let folks know how she been makin’ out, let her g’wan!”

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“She ain’t even worth talkin’ after,” Lulu Moss drawled through her nose. “She sits high, but she looks low. Dat’s what Ah say ’bout dese ole women runnin’ after young boys.”

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Coen I Coen I (Mar 18 2024 1:15AM) : This sentence speaks a lot about the concerns of the women talking, suggesting that the base cause for their preoccupation with Janie's life and especially appearance. more

Their gossip is revealed as stemming predominantly from fundamental jealousy towards her and possibly between women of Janie’s culture overall. There is an implied sense of competition by statements such as this one, and other’s which weigh Janie’s ‘true’ value as determined by the women of the town

Pheoby Watson hitched her rocking chair forward before she spoke. “Well, nobody don’t know if it’s anything to tell or not. Me, Ah’m her best friend, and Ah don’t know.”

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Coen I Coen I (Mar 18 2024 1:25AM) : Pheoby has a driving motivation at this point in the dialogue to defend Janie on the concerns risen by the group, but her persistence in labeling and reaffirming her relevance as Janie's friend suggests that these motivations may be convoluted. [Edited] more

While she seems to have legitimate reason and desire to defend the reputation of Janie, but this seems to be mixed with an almost status-oriented clash. In this, Pheoby’s behaviour suggests a desire to align herself more definitely with clear labels to Janie, sacrificing some respect and tolerance of the gossiping group, but gaining favour with Janie — a confident, unswayed, and highly if poorly regarded. This may be as part of her own desire to escape the tidepool of influence that the women of the town pull against each other with; competing and gossiping and degrading confidences by weighing acceptance as a condition over one another

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“Maybe us don’t know into things lak you do, but we all know how she went ’way from here and us sho seen her come back. ’Tain’t no use in your tryin’ to cloak no ole woman lak Janie Starks, Pheoby, friend or no friend.”

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“At dat she ain’t so ole as some of y’all dat’s talking.”

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“She’s way past forty to my knowledge, Pheoby.”

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“No more’n forty at de outside.”

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“She’s ’way too old for a boy like Tea Cake.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:43PM) : This is an interesting way for us to start the story knowing how her life ends before she starts telling it to her friend.
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“Tea Cake ain’t been no boy for some time. He’s round thirty his ownself.”

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“Don’t keer what it was, she could stop and say a few words with us. She act like we done done something to her,” Pearl Stone complained. “She de one been doin’ wrong.”

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“You mean, you mad ’cause she didn’t stop and tell us all her business. Anyhow, what you ever know her to do so bad as y’all make out? The worst thing Ah ever knowed her to do was taking a few years offa her age and dat ain’t never harmed nobody. Y’all makes me tired. De way you talkin’ you’d think de folks in dis town didn’t do nothin’ in de bed ’cept praise de Lawd. You have to ’scuse me, ’cause Ah’m bound to go take her some supper.” Pheoby stood up sharply.

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“Don’t mind us,” Lulu smiled, “just go right ahead, us can mind yo’ house for you till you git back. Mah supper is done. You bettah go see how she feel. You kin let de rest of us know.”

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“Lawd,” Pearl agreed, “Ah done scorched-up dat lil meat and bread too long to talk about. Ah kin stay ’way from home long as Ah please. Mah husband ain’t fussy.”

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“Oh, er, Pheoby, if youse ready to go, Ah could walk over dere wid you,” Mrs. Sumpkins volunteered. “It’s sort of duskin’ down dark. De boogerman might ketch yuh.”

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“Naw, Ah thank yuh. Nothin’ couldn’t ketch me dese few steps Ah’m goin’. Anyhow mah husband tell me say no first class booger would have me. If she got anything to tell yuh, you’ll hear it.”

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Pheoby hurried on off with a covered bowl in her hands. She left the porch pelting her back with unasked questions. They hoped the answers were cruel and strange. When she arrived at the place, Pheoby Watson didn’t go in by the front gate and down the palm walk to the front door. She walked around the fence corner and went in the intimate gate with her heaping plate of mulatto rice. Janie must be round that side.

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She found her sitting on the steps of the back porch with the lamps all filled and the chimneys cleaned.

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“Hello, Janie, how you comin’?”

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“Aw, pretty good, Ah’m tryin’ to soak some uh de tiredness and de dirt outa mah feet.” She laughed a little.

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Avery S Avery S (Mar 17 2024 5:21PM) : I think it's interesting that Hurston's narration is juxtaposed with Janie's dialect
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“Ah see you is. Gal, you sho looks good. You looks like youse yo’ own daughter.” They both laughed. “Even wid dem overhalls on, you shows yo’ womanhood.”

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“G’wan! G’wan! You must think Ah brought yuh somethin’. When Ah ain’t brought home a thing but mahself.”

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“Dat’s a gracious plenty. Yo’ friends wouldn’t want nothin’ better.”

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“Ah takes dat flattery offa you, Pheoby, ’cause Ah know it’s from de heart.” Janie extended her hand. “Good Lawd, Pheoby! ain’t you never goin’ tuh gimme dat lil rations you brought me? Ah ain’t had a thing on mah stomach today exceptin’ mah hand.” They both laughed easily. “Give it here and have a seat.”

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“Ah knowed you’d be hongry. No time to be huntin’ stove wood after dark. Mah mulatto rice ain’t so good dis time. Not enough bacon grease, but Ah reckon it’ll kill hongry.”

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“Ah’ll tell you in a minute,” Janie said, lifting the cover. “Gal, it’s too good! you switches a mean fanny round in a kitchen.”

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“Aw, dat ain’t much to eat, Janie. But Ah’m liable to have something sho nuff good tomorrow, ’cause you done come.”

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Janie ate heartily and said nothing. The varicolored cloud dust that the sun had stirred up in the sky was settling by slow degrees.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:17PM) : Diction more

Again, Hurston’s choice of wording and the visualization that comes with it is amazing!

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“Here, Pheoby, take yo’ ole plate. Ah ain’t got a bit of use for a empty dish. Dat grub sho come in handy.”

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Pheoby laughed at her friend’s rough joke. “Youse just as crazy as you ever was.”

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“Hand me dat wash-rag on dat chair by you, honey. Lemme scrub mah feet.” She took the cloth and rubbed vigorously. Laughter came to her from the big road.

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“Well, Ah see Mouth-Almighty is still sittin’ in de same place. And Ah reckon they got me up in they mouth now.”

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“Yes indeed. You know if you pass some people and don’t speak tuh suit ’em dey got tuh go way back in yo’ life and see whut you ever done. They know mo’ ’bout yuh than you do yo’ self. An envious heart makes a treacherous ear. They done ‘heard’ ’bout you just what they hope done happened.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:45PM) : This is additional commentary on townsfolk but I think is also a decent bit of foreshadowing that expectations of Janie's life might not be the truth.
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“If God don’t think no mo’ ’bout ’em then Ah do, they’s a lost ball in de high grass.”

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“Ah hears what they say ’cause they just will collect round mah porch ’cause it’s on de big road. Mah husband git so sick of ’em sometime he makes ’em all git for home.”

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“Sam is right too. They just wearin’ out yo’ sittin’ chairs.”

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“Yeah, Sam say most of ’em goes to church so they’ll be sure to rise in Judgment. Dat’s de day dat every secret is s’posed to be made known. They wants to be there and hear it all.”

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“Sam is too crazy! You can’t stop laughin’ when youse round him.”

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“Uuh hunh. He says he aims to be there hisself so he can find out who stole his corn-cob pipe.”

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“Pheoby, dat Sam of yourn just won’t quit! Crazy thing!”

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“Most of dese ziggaboos is so het up over yo’ business till they liable to hurry theyself to Judgment to find out about you if they don’t soon know. You better make haste and tell ’em ’bout you and Tea Cake gittin’ married, and if he taken all yo’ money and went off wid some young gal, and where at he is now and where at is all yo’ clothes dat you got to come back here in overhalls.”

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“Ah don’t mean to bother wid tellin’ ’em nothin’, Pheoby. ’Tain’t worth de trouble. You can tell ’em what Ah say if you wants to. Dat’s just de same as me ’cause mah tongue is in mah friend’s mouf.”

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“If you so desire Ah’ll tell ’em what you tell me to tell ’em.”

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“To start off wid, people like dem wastes up too much time puttin’ they mouf on things they don’t know nothin’ about. Now they got to look into me loving Tea Cake and see whether it was done right or not! They don’t know if life is a mess of cornmeal dumplings, and if love is a bed-quilt!”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:48PM) : Oooooo imagery is fascinating, especially coming from Hurston. It's nice seeing the comparisons that she chose and how it is so simple yet so charming and indicative of southern living.

“So long as they get a name to gnaw on they don’t care whose it is, and what about, ’specially if they can make it sound like evil.”

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:19PM) : Town society more

I think this sets up the societal focus on judgment and the gossip that is so commonly found in small and close-knit towns.

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“If they wants to see and know, why they don’t come kiss and be kissed? Ah could then sit down and tell ’em things. Ah been a delegate to de big ’ssociation of life. Yessuh! De Grand Lodge, de big convention of livin’ is just where Ah been dis year and a half y’all ain’t seen me.”

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They sat there in the fresh young darkness close together. Pheoby eager to feel and do through Janie, but hating to show her zest for fear it might be thought mere curiosity. Janie full of that oldest human longing—self revelation. Pheoby held her tongue for a long time, but she couldn’t help moving her feet. So Janie spoke.

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“They don’t need to worry about me and my overhalls long as Ah still got nine hundred dollars in de bank. Tea Cake got me into wearing ’em—following behind him. Tea Cake ain’t wasted up no money of mine, and he ain’t left me for no young gal, neither. He give me every consolation in de world. He’d tell ’em so too, if he was here. If he wasn’t gone.”

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Shantell B Shantell B (Mar 18 2024 8:41AM) : Tea Cake more

I think that by Phoeby calling the man she liked Tea Cake shows how she viewed him as the best person for her. Tea Cakes tend to look boring and the same from the outside, but once you eat one, your opinion about it may change. This is just like the man Phoeby liked. On the outside, others just saw him as another man, but once one got to know him, they realized his great personality.

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Pheoby dilated all over with eagerness, “Tea Cake gone?”

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“Yeah, Pheoby, Tea Cake is gone. And dat’s de only reason you see me back here—cause Ah ain’t got nothing to make me happy no more where Ah was at. Down in the Everglades there, down on the muck.”

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“It’s hard for me to understand what you mean, de way you tell it. And then again Ah’m hard of understandin’ at times.”

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“Naw, ’tain’t nothin’ lak you might think. So ’tain’t no use in me telling you somethin’ unless Ah give you de understandin’ to go ’long wid it. Unless you see de fur, a mink skin ain’t no different from a coon hide. Looka heah, Pheoby, is Sam waitin’ on you for his supper?”

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“It’s all ready and waitin’. If he ain’t got sense enough to eat it, dat’s his hard luck.”

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“Well then, we can set right where we is and talk. Ah got the house all opened up to let dis breeze get a little catchin’.

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“Pheoby, we been kissin’-friends for twenty years, so Ah depend on you for a good thought. And Ah’m talking to you from dat standpoint.”

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Time makes everything old so the kissing, young darkness became a monstropolous old thing while Janie talked.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:49PM) : This basically just outlined the whole journey of Janie's self discovery but in such a simple way that it shows the beauty of aging.
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Mientras más lees más sabes un descubrimiento nuevo un dilema un envejecimiento tiempo un llamativo entusiasmo

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Natalia A Natalia A (May 11 2024 8:37PM) : La frase sugiere que las experiencias y emociones que fueron intensas y significativas en el pasado pueden perder su brillo y belleza con el tiempo, especialmente cuando se las ve desde una perspectiva más madura.
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Janie saw her life like a great tree in leaf with the things suffered, things enjoyed, things done and undone. Dawn and doom was in the branches.

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Coen I Coen I (Mar 18 2024 1:43AM) : At the beginning of the passage, it is suggested that men look outward with desire but stand away as onlookers while trapped in a pestilence of longing for their dreams, while women distort the world around them, more

doing so to shrink the distance between them and their dreams — accepting as reality what they desire and blinding themselves to the otherwise more immediate world. However, in another effective instance of establishing Janie’s independence from expectations and the greater cultural ideas of her peers men and women by herself accepting both woe and shine in her life as all one great growth that spread from its base in splintered but connected branches, not rejecting or winnowing out what suits her dreams from her perspective or life

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:50PM) : Another fascinating choice for foreshadowing. The tree imagery and the different types, blossoming, foreboding, young and old are really interesting to compare.

“Ah know exactly what Ah got to tell yuh, but it’s hard to know where to start at.

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“Ah ain’t never seen mah papa. And Ah didn’t know ’im if Ah did. Mah mama neither. She was gone from round dere long before Ah wuz big enough tuh know. Mah grandma raised me. Mah grandma and de white folks she worked wid. She had a house out in de back-yard and dat’s where Ah wuz born. They was quality white folks up dere in West Florida. Named Washburn. She had four gran’chillun on de place and all of us played together and dat’s how come Ah never called mah Grandma nothin’ but Nanny, ’cause dat’s what everybody on de place called her. Nanny used to ketch us in our devilment and lick every youngun on de place and Mis’ Washburn did de same. Ah reckon dey never hit us ah lick amiss ’cause dem three boys and us two girls wuz pretty aggravatin’, Ah speck.

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“Ah was wid dem white chillun so much till Ah didn’t know Ah wuzn’t white till Ah was round six years old. Wouldn’t have found it out then, but a man come long takin’ pictures and without askin’ anybody, Shelby, dat was de oldest boy, he told him to take us. Round a week later de man brought de picture for Mis’ Washburn to see and pay him which she did, then give us all a good lickin’.

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“So when we looked at de picture and everybody got pointed out there wasn’t nobody left except a real dark little girl with long hair standing by Eleanor. Dat’s where Ah wuz s’posed to be, but Ah couldn’t recognize dat dark chile as me. So Ah ast, ‘where is me? Ah don’t see me.’

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Julia E Julia E (Mar 17 2024 11:29PM) : Race more

Race seems like such a downplayed part of the novel. It’s not the central idea, and it’s to the point where Janie herself doesn’t even recognize it. I might be getting ahead of myself since what im about to cite is from farther into the story but the only person who seems inflicted with the racial tension was Janie’s grandmother. She talks about race within her dialogue and how that influenced her actions greatly. While on the other head, the main character of this book, Janie, doesn’t comment really at all over it. These are just some parallels I found, might be off the topic.

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 17 2024 11:52PM) : I disagree that race is downplayed in the novel. I think race and gender are very central to this novel as they are central to Janie's lived experience. Through Janie's life, race relations, gender roles, and the intersection of the two are explored. more

I personally find this kind of political commentary much more moving and I think that the fact that this novel’s discussion of race and gender is through the eyes of an individual rather than a monolith makes it that much more profound. In their eyes were watching god, Janie’s personal life is political. It is a radical act for her to marry and remarry and run away and everything else she does (idk yet but i guess we will find out). Additionally, I think it is really interesting how this novel shows the different perspectives of Black people on race through different characters. Nanny obviously views her blackness differently than Janie views hers. this is a really long comment sorry julia

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“Everybody laughed, even Mr. Washburn. Miss Nellie, de Mama of de chillun who come back home after her husband dead, she pointed to de dark one and said, ‘Dat’s you, Alphabet, don’t you know yo’ ownself?’

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“Dey all useter call me Alphabet ’cause so many people had done named me different names. Ah looked at de picture a long time and seen it was mah dress and mah hair so Ah said:

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Shantell B Shantell B (Mar 18 2024 8:50AM) : Alphabet more

Having many names means she probably did not feel as connected to any her names as we do. This could lead to her feeling left out or not as important due to not being able to keep just one name that everyone knew her by.

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“ ‘Aw, aw! Ah’m colored!’

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“Den dey all laughed real hard. But before Ah seen de picture Ah thought Ah wuz just like de rest.

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“Us lived dere havin’ fun till de chillun at school got to teasin’ me ’bout livin’ in de white folks’ back-yard. Dere wuz uh knotty head gal name Mayrella dat useter git mad every time she look at me. Mis’ Washburn useter dress me up in all de clothes her gran’chillun didn’t need no mo’ which still wuz better’n whut de rest uh de colored chillun had. And then she useter put hair ribbon on mah head fuh me tuh wear. Dat useter rile Mayrella uh lot. So she would pick at me all de time and put some others up tuh do de same. They’d push me ’way from de ring plays and make out they couldn’t play wid nobody dat lived on premises. Den they’d tell me not to be takin’ on over mah looks ’cause they mama told ’em ’bout de hound dawgs huntin’ mah papa all night long. ’Bout Mr. Washburn and de sheriff puttin’ de bloodhounds on de trail tuh ketch mah papa for whut he done tuh mah mama. Dey didn’t tell about how he wuz seen tryin’ tuh git in touch wid mah mama later on so he could marry her. Naw, dey didn’t talk dat part of it atall. Dey made it sound real bad so as tuh crumple mah feathers. None of ’em didn’t even remember whut his name wuz, but dey all knowed de bloodhound part by heart. Nanny didn’t love tuh see me wid mah head hung down, so she figgered it would be mo’ better fuh me if us had uh house. She got de land and everything and then Mis’ Washburn helped out uh whole heap wid things.”

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 3:36PM) : This sentence is extremely powerful. The fact that the other girls used this traumatic event against her, to demean her, is bad enough but it's dehumanizing that they never bothered to know the man who was being chased, only the blood-thirsty hound. [Edited]
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Pheoby’s hungry listening helped Janie to tell her story. So she went on thinking back to her young years and explaining them to her friend in soft, easy phrases while all around the house, the night time put on flesh and blackness.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:21PM) : Contrasting diction more

The back and forth from a casual dialect/vernacular to Hurston’s personal writing style is so interesting to me.

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She thought awhile and decided that her conscious life had commenced at Nanny’s gate. On a late afternoon Nanny had called her to come inside the house because she had spied Janie letting Johnny Taylor kiss her over the gatepost.

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It was a spring afternoon in West Florida. Janie had spent most of the day under a blossoming pear tree in the back-yard. She had been spending every minute that she could steal from her chores under that tree for the last three days. That was to say, ever since the first tiny bloom had opened. It had called her to come and gaze on a mystery. From barren brown stems to glistening leaf-buds; from the leaf-buds to snowy virginity of bloom. It stirred her tremendously. How? Why? It was like a flute song forgotten in another existence and remembered again. What? How? Why? This singing she heard that had nothing to do with her ears. The rose of the world was breathing out smell. It followed her through all her waking moments and caressed her in her sleep. It connected itself with other vaguely felt matters that had struck her outside observation and buried themselves in her flesh. Now they emerged and quested about her consciousness.

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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:26PM) : The Pear Tree more

The tree is used a symbol for Janie’s life as she describes growing into a woman in time with the blossoming of the pear tree. This is shown after the beginning of the chapter introduces trees as one way Janie sees her life.

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 5:09PM) : I agree with your analysis. She wants to be in harmony with nature. She represents what it is to be a woman in love through showing the interaction of the tree and the pollinating bees, a type of reciprocal love.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:42PM) : I thought the pear tree was closer to her liberation rather than her life. It's like a journey, the wilting and blossoming of her flowers, the bees (men) in her life - Hurston expands on this idea later - and, of course, the roots in the ground.
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She was stretched on her back beneath the pear tree soaking in the alto chant of the visiting bees, the gold of the sun and the panting breath of the breeze when the inaudible voice of it all came to her. She saw a dust-bearing bee sink into the sanctum of a bloom; the thousand sister-calyxes arch to meet the love embrace and the ecstatic shiver of the tree from root to tiniest branch creaming in every blossom and frothing with delight. So this was a marriage! She had been summoned to behold a revelation. Then Janie felt a pain remorseless sweet that left her limp and languid.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:54PM) : I love how there's a pear tree in addition to the one taking root inside of her. It makes Hurston's narrative all the more subtle and intricate.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:56PM) : "So this was a marraige!" really enlightens the reader to the perspective that Janie holds about life, living and just about everything else. It shows a youthfulness and the naivete that accompanies it.
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After a while she got up from where she was and went over the little garden field entire. She was seeking confirmation of the voice and vision, and everywhere she found and acknowledged answers. A personal answer for all other creations except herself. She felt an answer seeking her, but where? When? How? She found herself at the kitchen door and stumbled inside. In the air of the room were flies tumbling and singing, marrying and giving in marriage. When she reached the narrow hallway she was reminded that her grandmother was home with a sick headache. She was lying across the bed asleep so Janie tipped on out of the front door. Oh to be a pear tree—any tree in bloom! With kissing bees singing of the beginning of the world! She was sixteen. She had glossy leaves and bursting buds and she wanted to struggle with life but it seemed to elude her. Where were the singing bees for her? Nothing on the place nor in her grandma’s house answered her. She searched as much of the world as she could from the top of the front steps and then went on down to the front gate and leaned over to gaze up and down the road. Looking, waiting, breathing short with impatience. Waiting for the world to be made.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:57PM) : This paragraph really shows the loneliness when you find out about relationships. It shows the want and idolization of companionship without even knowing. The fact the scene is at night too really drives the alone feeling home.
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Through pollinated air she saw a glorious being coming up the road. In her former blindness she had known him as shiftless Johnny Taylor, tall and lean. That was before the golden dust of pollen had beglamored his rags and her eyes.

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Krystal M Krystal M (Mar 17 2024 11:40PM) : Boyz [Edited] more

Janie’s encounter beneath the pear tree prompts a transformation in her perception of young men, awakening an awareness of her own physicality and desires. From this she finds herself romantically drawn to a previously overlooked boy, Johnny.

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In the last stages of Nanny’s sleep, she dreamed of voices. Voices far-off but persistent, and gradually coming nearer. Janie’s voice. Janie talking in whispery snatches with a male voice she couldn’t quite place. That brought her wide awake. She bolted upright and peered out of the window and saw Johnny Taylor lacerating her Janie with a kiss.

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Krystal M Krystal M (Mar 17 2024 11:42PM) : . more

In contrast with the newly awakened Janie, Nanny holds a more guarded view of men, particularly those unmarried, seeing them as potentially hazardous. This apprehension is demonstrated by her depiction of Johnny’s kiss as “lacerating.”

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 3:45PM) : Perception Changing With Age more

This highlights their opposing views on men: “Oh, to be a pear tree—any tree in bloom!” Young Janie, amid her self-discovery, had a strong desire for womanhood, as she expressed. The desire to experience awakening physicality shrouds her judgment, while in the case of her grandmother, her perception isn’t clouded by adolescence but molded from a lifetime of encounters with men.

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“Janie!”

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The old woman’s voice was so lacking in command and reproof, so full of crumbling dissolution,—that Janie half believed that Nanny had not seen her. So she extended herself outside of her dream and went inside of the house. That was the end of her childhood.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:23PM) : Simple and powerful more

This struck me. It is so simply stated, but so, so powerful.

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 17 2024 11:58PM) : this sentence was SO. also just the general contrast between the popular portrayal of a first kiss and Janie's first kiss. The stereotypical first kiss is romantic and almost innocent, indicative of youth. In contrast, Janie's first kiss is not out of more

love but rather plain old curiosity and instead of being youthful, this kiss is the end of her childhood. But I agree completely, Hurston is able to pack such a punch by stating it so plainly as the end of something, especially childhood is something that is so hard for us to admit to ourselvles

Nanny’s head and face looked like the standing roots of some old tree that had been torn away by storm. Foundation of ancient power that no longer mattered. The cooling palma christi leaves that Janie had bound about her grandma’s head with a white rag had wilted down and become part and parcel of the woman. Her eyes didn’t bore and pierce. They diffused and melted Janie, the room and the world into one comprehension.

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“Janie, youse uh ’oman, now, so—”

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“Naw, Nanny, naw Ah ain’t no real ’oman yet.”

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The thought was too new and heavy for Janie. She fought it away.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:26PM) : Relatability more

I think most (if not all) women have had the epiphany that they would eventually have to become an adult and carry on their lives after childhood is ended. It’s somewhat comforting to see that a woman in 1937 also felt this way.

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Nanny closed her eyes and nodded a slow, weary affirmation many times before she gave it voice.

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“Yeah, Janie, youse got yo’ womanhood on yuh. So Ah mout ez well tell yuh whut Ah been savin’ up for uh spell. Ah wants to see you married right away.”

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“Me, married? Naw, Nanny, no ma’am! Whut Ah know ’bout uh husband?”

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“Whut Ah seen just now is plenty for me, honey, Ah don’t want no trashy nigger, no breath-and-britches, lak Johnny Taylor usin’ yo’ body to wipe his foots on.”

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 5:14PM) : In this novel, it is evident that men have control over their wives. What Janie wants is an ideal love where husband and wife work hand in hand. Sadly, this marriage is not going to be as fulfilling as she imagined marriage should be. It's not of love.
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Nanny’s words made Janie’s kiss across the gatepost seem like a manure pile after a rain.

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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:32PM) : The Gatepost more

The fact that Janie kissed Johnny Taylor over the gate rather than her crossing the gate shows how she has not fully stepped out of her childhood but rather just got a small experience of her life as an adult.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:47PM) : That's a really interesting thought that I didn't have. I paid more attention to Nanny being thought asleep by Janie and how Janie thinks she knows the world.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 9:59PM) : Also the manure pile potentially hints at a difference of perspective. For some, it stinks. For others, they see a pile of fertilizer to foster growth.
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“Look at me, Janie. Don’t set dere wid yo’ head hung down. Look at yo’ ole grandma!” Her voice began snagging on the prongs of her feelings. “Ah don’t want to be talkin’ to you lak dis. Fact is Ah done been on mah knees to mah Maker many’s de time askin’ please—for Him not to make de burden too heavy for me to bear.”

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“Nanny, Ah just—Ah didn’t mean nothin’ bad.”

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“Dat’s what makes me skeered. You don’t mean no harm. You don’t even know where harm is at. Ah’m ole now. Ah can’t be always guidin’ yo’ feet from harm and danger. Ah wants to see you married right away.”

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“Who Ah’m goin’ tuh marry off-hand lak dat? Ah don’t know nobody.”

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“De Lawd will provide. He know Ah done bore de burden in de heat uh de day. Somebody done spoke to me ’bout you long time ago. Ah ain’t said nothin’ ’cause dat wasn’t de way Ah placed you. Ah wanted yuh to school out and pick from a higher bush and a sweeter berry. But dat ain’t yo’ idea, Ah see.”

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“Nanny, who—who dat been askin’ you for me?”

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“Brother Logan Killicks. He’s a good man, too.”

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“Naw, Nanny, no ma’am! Is dat whut he been hangin’ round here for? He look like some ole skullhead in de grave yard.”

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The older woman sat bolt upright and put her feet to the floor, and thrust back the leaves from her face.

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“So you don’t want to marry off decent like, do yuh? You just wants to hug and kiss and feel around with first one man and then another, huh? You wants to make me suck de same sorrow yo’ mama did, eh? Mah ole head ain’t gray enough. Mah back ain’t bowed enough to suit yuh!”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:01PM) : This drives home all of the sacrifices that were made by Nanny that were hinted at but indirectly stated. All Janie's life, Nanny has been working to keep their heads above water and have a good place to call their own.
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The vision of Logan Killicks was desecrating the pear tree, but Janie didn’t know how to tell Nanny that. She merely hunched over and pouted at the floor.

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“Janie.”

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“Yes, ma’am.”

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“You answer me when Ah speak. Don’t you set dere poutin’ wid me after all Ah done went through for you!”

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She slapped the girl’s face violently, and forced her head back so that their eyes met in struggle. With her hand uplifted for the second blow she saw the huge tear that welled up from Janie’s heart and stood in each eye. She saw the terrible agony and the lips tightened down to hold back the cry and desisted. Instead she brushed back the heavy hair from Janie’s face and stood there suffering and loving and weeping internally for both of them.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:30PM) : Contrasts more

The harshness and violence at the beginning of the paragraph contrasted with the softness and motherly love at the end is saddening highlights the necessity for survival, but the guilt that comes with enforcing it.

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“Come to yo’ Grandma, honey. Set in her lap lak yo’ use tuh. Yo’ Nanny wouldn’t harm a hair uh yo’ head. She don’t want nobody else to do it neither if she kin help it. Honey, de white man is de ruler of everything as fur as Ah been able tuh find out. Maybe it’s some place way off in de ocean where de black man is in power, but we don’t know nothin’ but what we see. So de white man throw down de load and tell de nigger man tuh pick it up. He pick it up because he have to, but he don’t tote it. He hand it to his womenfolks. De nigger woman is de mule uh de world so fur as Ah can see. Ah been prayin’ fuh it tuh be different wid you. Lawd, Lawd, Lawd!”

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For a long time she sat rocking with the girl held tightly to her sunken breast. Janie’s long legs dangled over one arm of the chair and the long braids of her hair swung low on the other side. Nanny half sung, half sobbed a running chantprayer over the head of the weeping girl.

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“Lawd have mercy! It was a long time on de way but Ah reckon it had to come. Oh Jesus! Do, Jesus! Ah done de best Ah could.”

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Finally, they both grew calm.

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“Janie, how long you been ’lowin’ Johnny Taylor to kiss you?”

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“Only dis one time, Nanny. Ah don’t love him at all. Whut made me do it is—oh, Ah don’t know.”

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“Thank yuh, Massa Jesus.”

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“Ah ain’t gointuh do it no mo’, Nanny. Please don’t make me marry Mr. Killicks.”

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“ ’Tain’t Logan Killicks Ah wants you to have, baby, it’s protection. Ah ain’t gittin’ ole, honey. Ah’m done ole. One mornin’ soon, now, de angel wid de sword is gointuh stop by here. De day and de hour is hid from me, but it won’t be long. Ah ast de Lawd when you was uh infant in mah arms to let me stay here till you got grown. He done spared me to see de day. Mah daily prayer now is tuh let dese golden moments rolls on a few days longer till Ah see you safe in life.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:02PM) : This paragraph further develops the sacrifices women give up in exchange for the wish talked about in the opening paragraphs. You may want someone to care for your tree but sometimes what's best is a gate to keep worse people from reaching you.
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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 3:51PM) : Janie's grandmother simply wants to see her married, safe, and protected before she passes.
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“Lemme wait, Nanny, please, jus’ a lil bit mo’.”

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:32PM) : Innocence more

This specific sentence truly highlights Janie’s innocence; pleading is a very childlike action, and it adds to the sadness surrounding the prospect of Janie’s marriage at such a young age.

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“Don’t think Ah don’t feel wid you, Janie, ’cause Ah do. Ah couldn’t love yuh no more if Ah had uh felt yo’ birth pains mahself. Fact uh de matter, Ah loves yuh a whole heap more’n Ah do yo’ mama, de one Ah did birth. But you got to take in consideration you ain’t no everyday chile like most of ’em. You ain’t got no papa, you might jus’ as well say no mama, for de good she do yuh. You ain’t got nobody but me. And mah head is ole and tilted towards de grave. Neither can you stand alone by yo’self. De thought uh you bein’ kicked around from pillar tuh post is uh hurtin’ thing. Every tear you drop squeezes a cup uh blood outa mah heart. Ah got tuh try and do for you befo’ mah head is cold.”

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A sobbing sigh burst out of Janie. The old woman answered her with little soothing pats of the hand.

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“You know, honey, us colored folks is branches without roots and that makes things come round in queer ways. You in particular. Ah was born back due in slavery so it wasn’t for me to fulfill my dreams of whut a woman oughta be and to do. Dat’s one of de hold-backs of slavery. But nothing can’t stop you from wishin’. You can’t beat nobody down so low till you can rob ’em of they will. Ah didn’t want to be used for a work-ox and a brood-sow and Ah didn’t want mah daughter used dat way neither. It sho wasn’t mah will for things to happen lak they did. Ah even hated de way you was born. But, all de same Ah said thank God, Ah got another chance. Ah wanted to preach a great sermon about colored women sittin’ on high, but they wasn’t no pulpit for me. Freedom found me wid a baby daughter in mah arms, so Ah said Ah’d take a broom and a cook-pot and throw up a highway through de wilderness for her. She would expound what Ah felt. But somehow she got lost offa de highway and next thing Ah knowed here you was in de world. So whilst Ah was tendin’ you of nights Ah said Ah’d save de text for you. Ah been waitin’ a long time, Janie, but nothin’ Ah been through ain’t too much if you just take a stand on high ground lak Ah dreamed.”

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:38PM) : Hurston's own beliefs more

Nanny telling Janie that slavery shouldn’t limit her dreaming reminds me of Hurston’s own beliefs regarding the topic.

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Krystal M Krystal M (Mar 18 2024 12:10AM) : roots more

I see this as a lack of known heritage of black people because of slavery. Because slaves were sold or born into slavery, there is little information of where they had come from and who their background or “roots” are. Additionally, roots are seen as a firm foundation of a tree. Nanny states that they are branches without roots, demonstrating that while a white person could fall back on to their family and their privileges, black men and women lacked those same privileges or foundation.

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Old Nanny sat there rocking Janie like an infant and thinking back and back. Mind-pictures brought feelings, and feelings dragged out dramas from the hollows of her heart.

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“Dat mornin’ on de big plantation close to Savannah, a rider come in a gallop tellin’ ’bout Sherman takin’ Atlanta. Marse Robert’s son had done been kilt at Chickamauga. So he grabbed his gun and straddled his best horse and went off wid de rest of de gray-headed men and young boys to drive de Yankees back into Tennessee.

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“They was all cheerin’ and cryin’ and shoutin’ for de men dat was ridin’ off. Ah couldn’t see nothin’ cause yo’ mama wasn’t but a week old, and Ah was flat uh mah back. But pretty soon he let on he forgot somethin’ and run into mah cabin and made me let down mah hair for de last time. He sorta wropped his hand in it, pulled mah big toe, lak he always done, and was gone after de rest lak lightnin’. Ah heard ’em give one last whoop for him. Then de big house and de quarters got sober and silent.

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“It was de cool of de evenin’ when Mistis come walkin’ in mah door. She throwed de door wide open and stood dere lookin’ at me outa her eyes and her face. Look lak she been livin’ through uh hundred years in January without one day of spring. She come stood over me in de bed.

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“ ’Nanny, Ah come to see that baby uh yourn.’

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“Ah tried not to feel de breeze off her face, but it got so cold in dere dat Ah was freezin’ to death under the kivvers. So Ah couldn’t move right away lak Ah aimed to. But Ah knowed Ah had to make haste and do it.

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“ ‘You better git dat kivver offa dat youngun and dat quick!’ she clashed at me. ‘Look lak you don’t know who is Mistis on dis plantation, Madam. But Ah aims to show you.’

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“By dat time I had done managed tuh unkivver mah baby enough for her to see de head and face.

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“ ‘Nigger, whut’s yo’ baby doin’ wid gray eyes and yaller hair?’ She begin tuh slap mah jaws ever which a’way. Ah never felt the fust ones ’cause Ah wuz too busy gittin’ de kivver back over mah chile. But dem last lick burnt me lak fire. Ah had too many feelin’s tuh tell which one tuh follow so Ah didn’t cry and Ah didn’t do nothin’ else. But then she kept on astin me how come mah baby look white. She asted me dat maybe twenty-five or thirty times, lak she got tuh sayin’ dat and couldn’t help herself. So Ah told her, ‘Ah don’t know nothin’ but what Ah’m told tuh do, ’cause Ah ain’t nothin’ but uh nigger and uh slave.’

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“Instead of pacifyin’ her lak Ah thought, look lak she got madder. But Ah reckon she was tired and wore out ’cause she didn’t hit me no more. She went to de foot of de bed and wiped her hands on her handksher. ‘Ah wouldn’t dirty mah hands on yuh. But first thing in de mornin’ de overseer will take you to de whippin’ post and tie you down on yo’ knees and cut de hide offa yo’ yaller back. One hundred lashes wid a raw-hide on yo’ bare back. Ah’ll have you whipped till de blood run down to yo’ heels! Ah mean to count de licks mahself. Ahd if it kills you Ah’ll stand de loss. Ahyhow, as soon as dat brat is a month old Ah’m going to sell it offa dis place.’

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“She flounced on off and let her wintertime wid me. Ah knowed mah body wasn’t healed, but Ah couldn’t consider dat. In de black dark Ah wrapped mah baby de best Ah knowed how and made it to de swamp by de river. Ah knowed de place was full uh moccasins and other bitin’ snakes, but Ah was more skeered uh whut was behind me. Ah hide in dere day and night and suckled de baby every time she start to cry, for fear somebody might hear her and Ah’d git found. Ah ain’t sayin’ uh friend or two didn’t feel mah care. And den de Good Lawd seen to it dat Ah wasn’t taken. Ah don’t see how come mah milk didn’t kill mah chile, wid me so skeered and worried all de time. De noise uh de owls skeered me; de limbs of dem cypress trees took to crawlin’ and movin’ round after dark, and two three times Ah heered panthers prowlin’ round. But nothin’ never hurt me ’cause de Lawd knowed how it was.

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“Den, one night Ah heard de big guns boomin’ lak thunder. It kept up all night long. Ahd de next mornin’ Ah could see uh big ship at a distance and a great stirrin’ round. So Ah wrapped Leafy up in moss and fixed her good in a tree and picked mah way on down to de landin’. The men was all in blue, and Ah heard people say Sherman was comin’ to meet de boats in Savannah, and all of us slaves was free. So Ah run got mah baby and got in quotation wid people and found a place Ah could stay.

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“But it was a long time after dat befo’ de Big Surrender at Richmond. Den de big bell ring in Atlanta and all de men in gray uniforms had to go to Moultrie, and bury their swords in de ground to show they was never to fight about slavery no mo’. So den we knowed we was free.

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“Ah wouldn’t marry nobody, though Ah could have uh heap uh times, cause Ah didn’t want nobody mistreating mah baby. So Ah got with some good white people and come down here in West Florida to work and make de sun shine on both sides of de street for Leafy.

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“Mah Madam help me wid her just lak she been doin’ wid you. Ah put her in school when it got so it was a school to put her in. Ah was ’spectin’ to make a school teacher outa her.

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“But one day she didn’t come home at de usual time and Ah waited and waited, but she never come all dat night. Ah took a lantern and went round askin’ everybody but nobody ain’t seen her. De next mornin’ she come crawlin’ in on her hands and knees. A sight to see. Dat school teacher had done hid her in de woods all night long, and he had done raped mah baby and run on off just before day.

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“She was only seventeen, and somethin’ lak dat to happen! Lawd a’mussy! Look lak Ah kin see it all over again. It was a long time before she was well, and by dat time we knowed you was on de way. And after you was born she took to drinkin’ likker and stayin’ out nights. Couldn’t git her to stay here and nowhere else. Lawd knows where she is right now. She ain’t dead, ’cause Ah’d know it by mah feelings, but sometimes Ah wish she was at rest.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:41PM) : Motherly love more

This paragraph is so heartbreaking to me. Nanny wishing her daughter was dead so that she could finally have peace shows how truly deep her love is for her.

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:10AM) : YES THIS HURT. but also I think the inclusion of Nanny's story and perspective is very important and adds a lot of nuance to Janie's story. It would be easy to paint Nanny as a villain or any number of things as she is forcing Janie into a marriage that more

she doesn’t want. however, in learning how Nanny had to fight for her own and her daughter’s life only to have her daughter be raped and traumatized so young it is a lot more reasonable that Nanny wants Janie married and more protected. Even if Janie is not happy or in love, at least she will not be hurt like Nanny’s daughter was. Additionally this story throws new light onto why Janie’s mother is so absent. Again, it would be easy to simply state that she is an absentee alcoholic mother, which she is, but it makes much more sense when we learn that she was raped and bore a child from it at a very young age. I think this is setting a precedent for the rest of the novel that characters, especially those who can easily be demonized (like the town does to grown Janie), are a lot more complex than they seem

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“And, Janie, maybe it wasn’t much, but Ah done de best Ah kin by you. Ah raked and scraped and bought dis lil piece uh land so you wouldn’t have to stay in de white folks’ yard and tuck yo’ head befo’ other chillun at school. Dat was all right when you was little. But when you got big enough to understand things, Ah wanted you to look upon yo’self. Ah don’t want yo’ feathers always crumpled by folks throwin’ up things in yo’ face. And Ah can’t die easy thinkin’ maybe de menfolks white or black is makin’ a spit-cup outa you: Have some sympathy fuh me. Put me down easy, Janie, Ah’m a cracked plate.”

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Avery S Avery S (Mar 17 2024 5:25PM) : This metaphor shows how Nanny has been hurt in the past, and so remains fragile in the present and easy to break.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:05PM) : I also think it's like a chipped plate. You know, ones that have some scratches and pieces missing around the edge but they still get the job done. It's the sign of a plate well loved and the metaphor shows it's a life well lived.

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There are years that ask questions and years that answer. Janie had had no chance to know things, so she had to ask. Did marriage end the cosmic loneliness of the unmated? Did marriage compel love like the sun the day?

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:07PM) : Hurston does this wonderful job of basically structuring each of her chapters like an argumentative essay with a topic sentence at the beginning and then goes through with anecdotes. SO, I bet that these questions get answered similarly to the first two.
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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:42PM) : Profound narure of this opening more

Beginning this selection with such a profound and deep thought is so interesting to me; “cosmic loneliness” is SUCH a great line!!!

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:12AM) : Hurston has such a way of summing up the human experience in just a few sentences. I feel like everyone has had years of questions and years of answers. She just puts it into words so simply and poignantly
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Julia E Julia E (Mar 17 2024 11:36PM) : emptiness more

so much of the beginning of her chapters starts with this feeling of emptiness and waiting for something. Since this is from Janie’s perspective, one can assume that this is what Janie’s whole life has been like, a sense of waiting for more. I bet once we meet Tea Cakes, the chapter beginnings are going to change.

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 4:07PM) : Janie's questions illustrates her desire for a real and powerful love. This juxtaposes her grandmother's desires however where Nanny views marriage as vital for survival in a world that treats black women like stepping stones and work mules.

In the few days to live before she went to Logan Killicks and his often-mentioned sixty acres, Janie asked inside of herself and out. She was back and forth to the pear tree continuously wondering and thinking. Finally out of Nanny’s talk and her own conjectures she made a sort of comfort for herself. Yes, she would love Logan after they were married. She could see no way for it to come about, but Nanny and the old folks had said it, so it must be so. Husbands and wives always loved each other, and that was what marriage meant. It was just so. Janie felt glad of the thought, for then it wouldn’t seem so destructive and mouldy. She wouldn’t be lonely anymore.

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 5:27PM) : Janie just assumes that she would fall in love with Logan after the marriage. She wanted a natural love with her husband.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:08PM) : It's this assumption that I think will become the biggest signpost for Janie's personal growth thoughout the novel. And seeing how she later approaches new relationships and living.
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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:15AM) : I think this is also a huge sign of janie's youth and immaturity. she has never had a relationship, much less been in love so she just assumes that it will happen. I agree with Holden that this will be one of the first things that Janie changes her mind more

on as she starts to change and mature

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Janie and Logan got married in Nanny’s parlor of a Saturday evening with three cakes and big platters of fried rabbit and chicken. Everything to eat in abundance. Nanny and Mrs. Washburn had seen to that. But nobody put anything on the seat of Logan’s wagon to make it ride glorious on the way to his house. It was a lonesome place like a stump in the middle of the woods where nobody had ever been. The house was absent of flavor, too. But anyhow Janie went on inside to wait for love to begin. The new moon had been up and down three times before she got worried in mind. Then she went to see Nanny in Mrs. Washburn’s kitchen on the day for beaten biscuits.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:09PM) : The dichotomy of a house filled with flavorful food and one that doesn't is probably a metaphor for love and desire. Desire for something better and the love that family brings along.
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Nanny beamed all out with gladness and made her come up to the bread board so she could kiss her.

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“Lawd a’mussy, honey, Ah sho is glad tuh see mah chile! G’wan inside and let Mis’ Washburn know youse heah. Umph! Umph! Umph! How is dat husband uh yourn?”

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Janie didn’t go in where Mrs. Washburn was. She didn’t say anything to match up with Nanny’s gladness either. She just fell on a chair with her hips and sat there. Between the biscuits and her beaming pride Nanny didn’t notice for a minute. But after a while she found the conversation getting lonesome so she looked up at Janie.

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“Whut’s de matter, sugar? You ain’t none too spry dis mornin’.”

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“Oh, nothin’ much, Ah reckon. Ah come to get a lil information from you.”

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The old woman looked amazed, then gave a big clatter of laughter. “Don’t tell me you done got knocked up already, less see—dis Saturday it’s two month and two weeks.”

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“No’m, Ah don’t think so anyhow.” Janie blushed a little.

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“You ain’t got nothin’ to be shamed of, honey, youse uh married ’oman. You got yo’ lawful husband same as Mis’ Washburn or anybody else!”

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“Ah’m all right dat way. Ah know ’tain’t nothin’ dere.”

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“You and Logan been fussin’? Lawd, Ah know dat grassgut, liver-lipted nigger ain’t done took and beat mah baby already! Ah’ll take a stick and salivate ’im!”

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“No’m, he ain’t even talked ’bout hittin’ me. He says he never mean to lay de weight uh his hand on me in malice. He chops all de wood he think Ah wants and den he totes it inside de kitchen for me. Keeps both water buckets full.”

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“Humph! don’t ’spect all dat tuh keep up. He ain’t kissin’ yo’ mouf when he carry on over yuh lak dat. He’s kissin’ yo’ foot and ’tain’t in uh man tuh kiss foot long. Mouf kissin’ is on uh equal and dat’s natural but when dey got to bow down tuh love, dey soon straightens up.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:11PM) : This is a tricky spot to be in. Janie has to balance a man who does not love her but fulfills all of her basic needs with the desire for a man who, in the end, most likely cannot even pay for the roof over their heads.
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“Yes’m.”

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“Well, if he do all dat whut you come in heah wid uh face long as mah arm for?”

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“ ’Cause you told me Ah mus gointer love him, and, and Ah don’t. Maybe if somebody was to tell me how, Ah could do it.”

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“You come heah wid yo’ mouf full uh foolishness on uh busy day. Heah you got uh prop tuh lean on all yo’ bawn days, and big protection, and everybody got tuh tip dey hat tuh you and call you Mis’ Killicks, and you come worryin’ me ’bout love.”

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“But Nanny, Ah wants to want him sometimes. Ah don’t want him to do all de wantin’.”

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 5:33PM) : Janie yearns for a passionate loving marriage. This marriage is not fitting her idea of love. She feels no attachment with him.
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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:21AM) : I think that this sentence and this exchange in general is really interesting because, to me at least, it is clear that Janie is the 'problem.' Logan loves or at least wants Janie and he treats her very well. Janie doesn't love him and knows that and seek more

to change that. I cant help but wonder if Janie and Logan’s marriage would have ended up differently if Nanny had given Janie some advice on how to like Logan better rather than brushing her off because Janie does want to want him, as she says here. I think that Janie being told to initially deny herself of what she wants (love, in this case) is really going to be the trigger for the rest of this novel as Janie learns to be an adult

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“If you don’t want him, you sho oughta. Heah you is wid de onliest organ in town, amongst colored folks, in yo’ parlor. Got a house bought and paid for and sixty acres uh land right on de big road and. . . . Lawd have mussy! Dat’s de very prong all us black women gits hung on. Dis love! Dat’s just whut’s got us uh pullin’ and uh haulin’ and sweatin’ and doin’ from can’t see in de mornin’ till can’t see at night. Dat’s how come de ole folks say dat bein’ uh fool don’t kill nobody. It jus’ makes you sweat. Ah betcha you wants some dressed up dude dat got to look at de sole of his shoe everytime he cross de street tuh see whether he got enough leather dere tuh make it across. You can buy and sell such as dem wid what you got. In fact you can buy ’em and give ’em away.”

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 5:31PM) : Considering Nanny's background of poverty and slavery, it would make sense that Logan would be the perfect husband. He is a successful farmer and would offer protection to Janie. Nanny is giving Janie the best dream that she never had. more

Although they have differing view’s its obvious that Nanny cares for Janie’s marriage

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“Ah ain’t studyin’ ’bout none of ’em. At de same time Ah ain’t takin’ dat ole land tuh heart neither. Ah could throw ten acres of it over de fence every day and never look back to see where it fell. Ah feel de same way ’bout Mr. Killicks too. Some folks never was meant to be loved and he’s one of ’em.”

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“How come?”

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“ ’Cause Ah hates de way his head is so long one way and so flat on de sides and dat pone uh fat back uh his neck.”

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“He never made his own head. You talk so silly.”

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“Ah don’t keer who made it, Ah don’t like de job. His belly is too big too, now, and his toe-nails look lak mule foots. And ’tain’t nothin’ in de way of him washin’ his feet every evenin’ before he comes tuh bed. ’Tain’t nothin’ tuh hinder him ’cause Ah places de water for him. Ah’d ruther be shot wid tacks than tuh turn over in de bed and stir up de air whilst he is in dere. He don’t even never mention nothin’ pretty.”

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She began to cry.

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“Ah wants things sweet wid mah marriage lak when you sit under a pear tree and think. Ah. . . .”

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“ ’Tain’t no use in you cryin’, Janie. Grandma done been long uh few roads herself. But folks is meant to cry ’bout somethin’ or other. Better leave things de way dey is. Youse young yet. No tellin’ whut mout happen befo’ you die. Wait awhile, baby. Yo’ mind will change.”

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Nanny sent Janie along with a stern mien, but she dwindled all the rest of the day as she worked. And when she gained the privacy of her own little shack she stayed on her knees so long she forgot she was there herself. There is a basin in the mind where words float around on thought and thought on sound and sight. Then there is a depth of thought untouched by words, and deeper still a gulf of formless feelings untouched by thought. Nanny entered this infinity of conscious pain again on her old knees. Towards morning she muttered, “Lawd, you know mah heart. Ah done de best Ah could do. De rest is left to you.” She scuffled up from her knees and fell heavily across the bed. A month later she was dead.

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 4:14PM) : This is a profound image. Nanny, who has witnessed and experienced immense trauma, finally sits and submerges in what Hurston describes as a basin in one's mind. Nanny had entered an "infinity of conscious pain".
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So Janie waited a bloom time, and a green time and an orange time. But when the pollen again gilded the sun and sifted down on the world she began to stand around the gate and expect things. What things? She didn’t know exactly. Her breath was gusty and short. She knew things that nobody had ever told her. For instance, the words of the trees and the wind. She often spoke to falling seeds and said, “Ah hope you fall on soft ground,” because she had heard seeds saying that to each other as they passed. She knew the world was a stallion rolling in the blue pasture of ether. She knew that God tore down the old world every evening and built a new one by sun-up. It was wonderful to see it take form with the sun and emerge from the gray dust of its making. The familiar people and things had failed her so she hung over the gate and looked up the road towards way off. She knew now that marriage did not make love. Janie’s first dream was dead, so she became a woman.

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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:34PM) : Time and Nature more

Janie’s use of nature to describe the passage of time once again shows the comparison between her life and the pear tree, but also just further strengthens the connection she feels to the natural world.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:13PM) : Back to the beginning of her desire journey. This gate is continuously the exit from a life that she wants to leave behind.
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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:38PM) : The Gate more

Although she has grown and is married, Janie is still stuck in her childlike mindset behind the gate, looking over it in hopes of finding the love she so desperately desires.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:14PM) : I think she's not in a childlike mindset anymore. It's almost like a teenager now. She now knows what she can have but still wants more, disregarding the things she currently has.
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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:25AM) : I disagree. I think it is more that Janie is still 'kept.' Before as a child and now as a wife. However, I agree that she has always been denied what she truly desires and that is why she continues to be enamored with what is beyond the gate
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:15PM) : I love a good tie back. Hurston just keeps showing how good those first four paragraphs were and their essentialness to the story.
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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:46PM) : Womanhood more

This is heartbreaking to me; Janie could only truly mature through the demise of her hopes and dreams, which seems to be a common occurrence in not only this work, but the lives of women in general.

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Julia E Julia E (Mar 17 2024 11:33PM) : loss of childhood more

Girls were married so young in the past in an attempt to prevent rape and allow them security, whether that be for their families or the girl themselves, is circumstantial. It’s like girls always had a countdown over their heads before they were deemed ready to be wed off.

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:27AM) : I also think this is somewhat of a callback to the opening paragraph of the novel with men v. women and dreams. I think this is part of a greater commentary on womanhood and what it means to be and become a woman in this society
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Shantell B Shantell B (Mar 18 2024 8:58AM) : Growing Up more

This sentence shows how dreams are what children rely on, but once you stop relying on your dreams, then you are no longer a child and must grow up and become an adult who deals with everything life throws their way.

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Long before the year was up, Janie noticed that her husband had stopped talking in rhymes to her. He had ceased to wonder at her long black hair and finger it. Six months back he had told her, “If Ah kin haul de wood heah and chop it fuh yuh, look lak you oughta be able tuh tote it inside. Mah fust wife never bothered me ’bout choppin’ no wood nohow. She’d grab dat ax and sling chips lak uh man. You done been spoilt rotten.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:16PM) : Spoilt rotten is an interesting way of putting it. I think the sourness about how some of these people see Janie, mimics how everyone has their biases toward people beyond skin color. Her background has been more of a plot point than her race.
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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:49PM) : Nanny's wisdom more

Nanny stated that Logan’s kindness would only last so long. As readers, we obviously want her to be incorrect, but Hurston seems to stick to lifelike fates, not adding any frills or flourishes to the lives of her characters (thus far).

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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 4:19PM) : I can only wonder how this will impact Janie. She was willing to stay because he put effort into providing for her, she was willing to learn how to love him, but what happens when that string holding their marriage together in Janie's eyes snaps?
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So Janie had told him, “Ah’m just as stiff as you is stout. If you can stand not to chop and tote wood Ah reckon you can stand not to git no dinner. ’Scuse mah freezolity, Mist’ Killicks, but Ah don’t mean to chop de first chip.”

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“Aw you know Ah’m gwine chop de wood fuh yuh. Even if you is stingy as you can be wid me. Yo’ Grandma and me myself done spoilt yuh now, and Ah reckon Ah have tuh keep on wid it.”

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One morning soon he called her out of the kitchen to the barn. He had the mule all saddled at the gate.

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“Looka heah, LilBit, help me out some. Cut up dese seed taters fuh me. Ah got tuh go step off a piece.”

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“Where you goin’?”

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“Over tuh Lake City tuh see uh man about uh mule.”

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“Whut you need two mules fuh? Lessen you aims to swap off dis one.”

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“Naw, Ah needs two mules dis yeah. Taters is goin’ tuh be taters in de fall. Bringin’ big prices. Ah aims tuh run two plows, and dis man Ah’m talkin’ ’bout is got uh mule all gentled up so even uh woman kin handle ’im.”

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Logan held his wad of tobacco real still in his jaw like a thermometer of his feelings while he studied Janie’s face and waited for her to say something.

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“So Ah thought Ah mout as well go see.” He tagged on and swallowed to kill time but Janie said nothing except, “Ah’ll cut de p’taters fuh yuh. When yuh comin’ back?”

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“Don’t know exactly. Round dust dark Ah reckon. It’s uh sorta long trip—specially if Ah hafter lead one on de way back.”

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When Janie had finished indoors she sat down in the barn with the potatoes. But springtime reached her in there so she moved everything to a place in the yard where she could see the road. The noon sun filtered through the leaves of the fine oak tree where she sat and made lacy patterns on the ground. She had been there a long time when she heard whistling coming down the road.

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Avery S Avery S (Mar 17 2024 5:30PM) : The noon sun when Janie first sees Joe contrasts with the shadows of the barn in which Janie sees Logan for the last time, showing her changing interests
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:26PM) : The time changes are very interesting especially when paired to even the time when she walked into town in Ch. 1.
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It was a cityfied, stylish dressed man with his hat set at an angle that didn’t belong in these parts. His coat was over his arm, but he didn’t need it to represent his clothes. The shirt with the silk sleeveholders was dazzling enough for the world. He whistled, mopped his face and walked like he knew where he was going. He was a seal-brown color but he acted like Mr. Washburn or somebody like that to Janie. Where would such a man be coming from and where was he going? He didn’t look her way nor no other way except straight ahead, so Janie ran to the pump and jerked the handle hard while she pumped. It made a loud noise and also made her heavy hair fall down. So he stopped and looked hard, and then he asked her for a cool drink of water.

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:52PM) : Newness more

Already, this new mystery-man is depicted as someone who does not fit in this town. His description makes him seem worldly and well-travelled.

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:30AM) : this description also somewhat fits what Nanny predicted Janie would prefer and fall for and warned her against it.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:27PM) : So, everything she has been warned against...
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Janie pumped it off until she got a good look at the man. He talked friendly while he drank.

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Joe Starks was the name, yeah Joe Starks from in and through Georgy. Been workin’ for white folks all his life. Saved up some money—round three hundred dollars, yes indeed, right here in his pocket. Kept hearin’ ’bout them buildin’ a new state down heah in Floridy and sort of wanted to come. But he was makin’ money where he was. But when he heard all about ’em makin’ a town all outa colored folks, he knowed dat was de place he wanted to be. He had always wanted to be a big voice, but de white folks had all de sayso where he come from and everywhere else, exceptin’ dis place dat colored folks was buildin’ theirselves. Dat was right too. De man dat built things oughta boss it. Let colored folks build things too if dey wants to crow over somethin’. He was glad he had his money all saved up. He meant to git dere whilst de town wuz yet a baby. He meant to buy in big. It had always been his wish and desire to be a big voice and he had to live nearly thirty years to find a chance. Where was Janie’s papa and mama?

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“Dey dead, Ah reckon. Ah wouldn’t know ’bout ’em ’cause mah Grandma raised me. She dead too.”

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“She dead too! Well, who’s lookin’ after a lil girl-chile lak you?”

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“Ah’m married.”

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“You married? You ain’t hardly old enough to be weaned. Ah betcha you still craves sugar-tits, doncher?”

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Julia E Julia E (Mar 17 2024 11:39PM) : painting the picture of a child more

Janie is still young at this point but is expected to manage a house. By asking if she still likes sweetness is kinda painting the picture of Joe Starks viewing her as a child again, which is a little disturbing since he’s willing to marry her

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“Yeah, and Ah makes and sucks ’em when de notion strikes me. Drinks sweeten’ water too.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:29PM) : This syrup furthers this idea that she likes the sweet and fancy things but not really puts much thought behind it. Janie even says she's the only person who likes it around her and maybe liking sweet drinks is a metaphor for maturity.
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“Ah loves dat mahself. Never specks to get too old to enjoy syrup sweeten’ water when it’s cools and nice.”

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“Us got plenty syrup in de barn. Ribbon-cane syrup. If you so desires—”

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“Where yo’ husband at, Mis’ er-er.”

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“Mah name is Janie Mae Killicks since Ah got married. Useter be name Janie Mae Crawford. Mah husband is gone tuh buy a mule fuh me tuh plow. He left me cuttin’ up seed p’taters.”

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Abigail F Abigail F (Mar 18 2024 12:33AM) : I think it is interesting that Janie chooses to also tell this man her maiden name. For me, this showed her interest in him and her disconnect from her marriage as she still feels connected enough to her maiden name to want to tell it to a virtual strange more

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“You behind a plow! You ain’t got no mo’ business wid uh plow than uh hog is got wid uh holiday! You ain’t got no business cuttin’ up no seed p’taters neither. A pretty doll-baby lak you is made to sit on de front porch and rock and fan yo’self and eat p’taters dat other folks plant just special for you.”

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Janie laughed and drew two quarts of syrup from the barrel and Joe Starks pumped the water bucket full of cool water. They sat under the tree and talked. He was going on down to the new part of Florida, but no harm to stop and chat. He later decided he needed a rest anyway. It would do him good to rest a week or two.

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Every day after that they managed to meet in the scrub oaks across the road and talk about when he would be a big ruler of things with her reaping the benefits. Janie pulled back a long time because he did not represent sun-up and pollen and blooming trees, but he spoke for far horizon. He spoke for change and chance. Still she hung back. The memory of Nanny was still powerful and strong.

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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:42PM) : Joe more

Joe may not be exactly what Janie is looking for in her search for love like what she sees in the pear tree, but he has dreams and aspiration bigger than that of his own acreage like Logan, giving Janie hope for more.

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Mariah W Mariah W (Mar 17 2024 5:37PM) : Joe offers excitement and opportunity to Janie. He represents the unknown and risk in life that Janie desires. Janie is willing to abandon the comfortable in order to experience change and possibly a relationship that is full of love.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:31PM) : I think Janie fights with herself all of the time. She keeps being told what to do and is being limited by the people in her life no matter what. Nanny and Husband #1 did that by limiting her freedom and Joe wants to limit her working for herself
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“Janie, if you think Ah aims to tole you off and make a dog outa you, youse wrong. Ah wants to make a wife outa you.”

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“You mean dat, Joe?”

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“De day you puts yo’ hand in mine, Ah wouldn’t let de sun go down on us single. Ah’m uh man wid principles. You ain’t never knowed what it was to be treated lak a lady and Ah wants to be de one tuh show yuh. Call me Jody lak you do sometime.”

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“Jody,” she smiled up at him, “but s’posin’—”

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“Leave de s’posin’ and everything else to me. Ah’ll be down dis road uh little after sun-up tomorrow mornin’ to wait for you. You come go wid me. Den all de rest of yo’ natural life you kin live lak you oughta. Kiss me and shake yo’ head. When you do dat, yo’ plentiful hair breaks lak day.”

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Janie debated the matter that night in bed.

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“Logan, you ’sleep?”

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“If Ah wuz, you’d be done woke me up callin’ me.”

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“Ah wuz thinkin’ real hard about us; about you and me.”

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“It’s about time. Youse powerful independent around here sometime considerin’.”

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“Considerin’ whut for instance?”

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“Considerin’ youse born in a carriage ’thout no top to it, and yo’ mama and you bein’ born and raised in de white folks back-yard.”

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:33PM) : I really enjoy the differing perspectives and the timing of this conversation. Everything seems so deliberate especially thinking about the unspoken thought process of Janie like approaching him at night right before bed and how to sleep on it.
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“You didn’t say all dat when you wuz begging Nanny for me to marry you.”

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“Ah thought you would ’preciate good treatment. Thought Ah’d take and make somethin’ outa yuh. You think youse white folks by de way you act.”

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“S’posin’ Ah wuz to run off and leave yuh sometime.”

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There! Janie had put words in his held-in fears. She might run off sure enough. The thought put a terrible ache in Logan’s body, but he thought it best to put on scorn.

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“Ah’m gettin’ sleepy, Janie. Let’s don’t talk no mo’. ’Tain’t too many mens would trust yuh, knowin’ yo’ folks lak dey do.”

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“Ah might take and find somebody dat did trust me and leave yuh.”

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“Shucks! ’Tain’t no mo’ fools lak me. A whole lot of mens will grin in yo’ face, but dey ain’t gwine tuh work and feed yuh. You won’t git far and you won’t be long, when dat big gut reach over and grab dat little one, you’ll be too glad to come back here.”

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“You don’t take nothin’ to count but sow-belly and cornbread.”

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“Ah’m sleepy. Ah don’t aim to worry mah gut into a fiddle-string wid no s’posin’.” He flopped over resentful in his agony and pretended sleep. He hoped that he had hurt her as she had hurt him.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:34PM) : Is this whole book filled with grown toddlers? Because that may be one of the most accurate portrayals of people I have seen.

Janie got up with him the next morning and had the breakfast halfway done when he bellowed from the barn.

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“Janie!” Logan called harshly. “Come help me move dis manure pile befo’ de sun gits hot. You don’t take a bit of interest in dis place. ’Tain’t no use in foolin’ round in dat kitchen all day long.”

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Madeline A Madeline A (May 07 2024 10:08AM) : Statement more

Logan doesn’t treat Janie at all with respect, I would to leave Logan for Jody.

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Janie walked to the door with the pan in her hand still stirring the cornmeal dough and looked towards the barn. The sun from ambush was threatening the world with red daggers, but the shadows were gray and solid-looking around the barn. Logan with his shovel looked like a black bear doing some clumsy dance on his hind legs.

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“You don’t need mah help out dere, Logan. Youse in yo’ place and Ah’m in mine.”

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“You ain’t got no particular place. It’s wherever Ah need yuh. Git uh move on yuh, and dat quick.”

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Bella P Bella P (Mar 17 2024 10:55PM) : Logan's other side more

I think Logan’s cruelty is starting to truly show, like now Nanny said it would/

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“Mah mamma didn’t tell me Ah wuz born in no hurry. So whut business Ah got rushin’ now? Anyhow dat ain’t whut youse mad about. Youse mad ’cause Ah don’t fall down and wash-up dese sixty acres uh ground yuh got. You ain’t done me no favor by marryin’ me. And if dat’s what you call yo’self doin’, Ah don’t thank yuh for it. Youse mad ’cause Ah’m tellin’ yuh whut you already knowed.”

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Logan dropped his shovel and made two or three clumsy steps towards the house, then stopped abruptly.

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“Don’t you change too many words wid me dis mawnin’, Janie, do Ah’ll take and change ends wid yuh! Heah, Ah just as good as take you out de white folks’ kitchen and set you down on yo’ royal diasticutis and you take and low-rate me! Ah’ll take holt uh dat ax and come in dere and kill yuh! You better dry up in dere! Ah’m too honest and hard-workin’ for anybody in yo’ family, dat’s de reason you don’t want me!” The last sentence was half a sob and half a cry. “Ah guess some low-lifed nigger is grinnin’ in yo’ face and lyin’ tuh yuh. God damn yo’ hide!”

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Janie turned from the door without answering, and stood still in the middle of the floor without knowing it. She turned wrongside out just standing there and feeling. When the throbbing calmed a little she gave Logan’s speech a hard thought and placed it beside other things she had seen and heard. When she had finished with that she dumped the dough on the skillet and smoothed it over with her hand. She wasn’t even angry. Logan was accusing her of her mamma, her grandmama and her feelings, and she couldn’t do a thing about any of it. The sow-belly in the pan needed turning. She flipped it over and shoved it back. A little cold water in the coffee pot to settle it. Turned the hoe-cake with a plate and then made a little laugh. What was she losing so much time for? A feeling of sudden newness and change came over her. Janie hurried out of the front gate and turned south. Even if Joe was not there waiting for her, the change was bound to do her good.

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Madeline A Madeline A (May 07 2024 10:07AM) : Comment - The gate more

Her opening the gates symbolizes a new beginning for Janie.

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annie h annie h (Mar 17 2024 1:41PM) : The Gate more

Janie is finally going through the gate and beginning her journey to finding love that reminds her of the pear tree. Her leaving through the gate signifies a shift from her sadness and yearning for more into a new and exciting chapter in her life.

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Avery S Avery S (Mar 17 2024 5:27PM) : I really like this interpretation, and I also think you could see her finally going through the gate as leaving behind her childhood and obedience towards others and embracing adulthood and doing what she wants.
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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:35PM) : I also think this interpretation makes the most sense considering just how influential it has been on her decision making process. It is like the staple of her life that she keeps coming back to. She said she's already become a woman but this marks freedo
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alumna a alumna a (May 08 2024 8:30PM) : realmente creo que cruza la puerta hacia un lugar nuevo,hallando tanto el amor y la madurez, dejando a tras su pasado.
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Diego P Diego P (May 09 2024 8:55AM) : Pienso que la puerta es una manera de expresar el cambio en una persona.Es la puerta qué divide al futuro del pasado y el que ella haya atravesado esa puerta muestra que dejó ir el pasado para poder caminar a un mejor futuro
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Julia E Julia E (Mar 17 2024 11:42PM) : Open doors more

Open doors often do symbolzie new beginnings where once you enter there’s no looking back. Like the saying when one door closes another opens. Janie closes the oven’s door, domestic life filled with boring, mundane aspects, to the open gates, where there’s a wide empty road ahead.

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The morning road air was like a new dress. That made her feel the apron tied around her waist. She untied it and flung it on a low bush beside the road and walked on, picking flowers and making a bouquet. After that she came to where Joe Starks was waiting for her with a hired rig. He was very solemn and helped her to the seat beside him. With him on it, it sat like some high, ruling chair. From now on until death she was going to have flower dust and springtime sprinkled over everything. A bee for her bloom. Her old thoughts were going to come in handy now, but new words would have to be made and said to fit them.

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“Green Cove Springs,” he told the driver. So they were married there before sundown, just like Joe had said. With new clothes of silk and wool.

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Holden G Holden G (Mar 17 2024 10:37PM) : Silk and wool are very interesting because of how silk is not really durable over a long period of use but wool is. The silk was already being worn by Joe (initial description of him) but not by Janie and might predict their future commitment levels.
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Emma V Emma V (Mar 18 2024 4:32PM) : I love that analogy. I feel like the commitment levels, along with this imagery, are highlighted by the swiftness of her remarriage as well.

They sat on the boarding house porch and saw the sun plunge into the same crack in the earth from which the night emerged.

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