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The downfunnelled light from the desklamp struck the reporter across the hips; to the city editor sitting behind the desk the reporter loomed from the hips upward for an incredible distance to where the cadaverface hung against the dusty gloom of the city room’s upper spaces, in a green corpseglare as appropriate as water to fish—the raked disreputable hat, the suit that looked as if someone else had just finished sleeping in it and with one coat pocket sagging with yellow copy paper and from the other protruding, folded, the cold violent stilldamp black

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 01 2016 4:21PM) : What impact does the "downfunnelled light" have on this scene?
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 1:45PM) : Elvis J. Rosario more

It makes it sound like a dark place. Maybe a place that wouldn’t inspire positivity and creative thoughts.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:29AM) : What about the funnel shape of the light?
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 7:06PM) : I'd argue that there is no reason a dark place would not inspire positivity. Maybe it just creates a mood?
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Feb 18
Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Feb 18 2016 3:27PM) : The "downfunnelled light" gives more of a dramatic image of the light beaming on the desk. It also gives an image of the shape of the light; how the light starts wide and gets more narrow as it is projected.
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Feb 19
student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 1:13AM) : I agree, the downfunnelled light adds a dramatic affect to the scene and in a sense it sets up the scene.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:31AM) : What is being set up?
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 8:54AM) : Well, the downfunnelled light is used to emphasize the reporter's role in this scene which can be described as perhaps, exhausted and overwhelmed.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:22AM) : But that doesn't really answer the question. Why downfunneled light? What kind of light is that?
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Omer Seman Omer Seman (May 20 2016 11:35PM) : Downfunnelled Light more

The light is limited in scope and serves as a metaphor for the reporter’s lack of freedom of expression when it comes to his writing and reporting.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:31AM) : So why describe the light this way? more
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 4:58PM) : Molly Deng more

The impact of the downfunnelled light in this scene serves to highlight one aspect, in this case the reporter’s hips, and casts a shadow everywhere else. Perhaps Faulkner wants to emphasize the reporter’s posture or defeated look in this scene.

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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 5:03PM) : Molly Deng more

The downfunnelled light is also very reminiscent of chiaroscuro type of lighting that I learned about in film class, which serves to highlight the stark differences between light and shadow, and intensifies moments or foreshadows action. Perhaps the purpose of the downfunnelled lighting could also be to foreshadow how the journalist will cross the line between what’s right and wrong in terms of journalistic conduct.

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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 10:11PM) : Wenting Wu more

I am agree with you that the purpose of the downfunnelled lighting is foreshadowing the rightness and wrongness. That is a interesting point that you made.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:34AM) : The rightness and wrongness of what?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Feb 28 2016 8:52PM) : Rand Shannak more

Maybe the rightness and wrongness of his actions in the future of the story. What he would/wouldn’t do as a journalist just to get the story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 29 2016 9:13AM) : But I don't understand how the Iight has anything to do with rightness and wrongness?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 16 2016 2:38PM) : Literary symbols of light more

Generally in literature light represents the pure, “rightness” and good; whereas the dark is a representation of something that is wrongful or sinister.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 17 2016 7:26AM) : But her the light is more targeted.
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (May 14 2016 11:13AM) : Yes, it is targeted specifically to portray the role of journalism in the world.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 15 2016 8:16AM) : Ok
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:32AM) : The word shadow is significant.
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 8:56AM) : I agree the reporter does seem defeated because as described in the text, "his suit looked as if someone else had just finished sleeping in it..." This shows the less glamorous side of his job.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:22AM) : Defeated? But he does persist. There might be a better word to describe him.
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 10:09PM) : Wenting Wu more

The “downfunnelled light” not only describes the light condition inside the room, but also demonstrates the emotional state of both the reporter and editor. It is depress and stressful.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:34AM) : What stress?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (May 14 2016 11:14AM) : The stress of having to be involved in various tragedies in the world to a greater extent than anyone to get the story and show the world what is happening they must sacrifice their mental health (energy).
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 15 2016 8:17AM) : Perhaps. The Reporter has been drained of life.
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 11:52PM) : The light is only illuminating the reporter, so I think it only applies to him and not the editor.
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:08PM) : downfunnelled light more

The downfunnelled light is casting the reporter as a dramatic subject in this scene, creating the illusion of him as a dominating figure, a chillingly severe face hidden in shadows.

The description of harsh lights and shadows reminds me of films noir, perhaps referencing the possible mysterious and dark nature of the reporter.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 7:35AM) : Just the reporter? What about the newsroom?
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:22AM) : is the reporter the focus? What about the newsroom?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Feb 28 2016 8:53PM) : Rand Shannak more

It shows that the purpose of the newsroom is to shine a light on news, to keep people out of the dark of the realities and occurrences in the world.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 29 2016 9:14AM) : What does it refer to?
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 19 2016 12:06AM) : Downfunneled light more

The impact showcases a pivotal moment of highlighting an emotional scene. Imagery is used heavily with several adjectives and descriptive materials. The reporter appears to be defeated with a somber setting without feeling any semblance of optimism.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:21AM) : defeated by what?
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 7:14PM) : Maybe he is defeated by the expectations he never reaches. These expectations being his writing, and reporting.
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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 19 2016 2:01AM) : The light more

The “downfunnelled light” is used to help the reader imagine the reporter’s appearance as well as set a certain tone for the next few pages. The light made the reporter look spooky, bigger then he really is, like a zombie or a monster.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:21AM) : Why?
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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 20 2016 3:30PM) : The light more

The light being “downfunneled” is a metaphor for journalism, in the sense that it shines light on certain topics, but can’t cover everything. Journalism is limited, however it’s better to focus on one particular topic in order to get the full story, rather than everything and overlook vital details.

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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 20 2016 10:57PM) : So he needs to focus on other people's part of the story, what if it is a profile of them?
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yoshiko yoshida yoshiko yoshida (Feb 19 2016 9:03AM) : Downfunnelled light more

I think the words, “downfunnelled light” give reader an image of the scene. That is, a streak of light from the desklamp that pierces through the dusty gloom of the city room.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:29AM) : But why describe the light his way? What impact does it have on the scene?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 16 2016 2:41PM) : Impact of the light more

It uses the environment/setting to depict the profession of being a reporter who shines the light on specific occurrences in this dark and gloomy world.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 17 2016 7:26AM) : Ok
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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 10:14AM) : Downfunnelled light more

The “downfunnelled light” sets the scene of the murky work atmosphere in which the reporter is working. The shape of the light illustrates the dwindling amount of time the reporter has, showing their increasing tension and frustration.

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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Feb 19 2016 8:22PM) : I agree with this comment. The funnel shape can also represent how information is "funnelled down" into writing. [Edited]
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:19AM) : Funneled which also suggests narrowed
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:48PM) : funneled can also mean edited (whether for good or bad)
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:28AM) : I'm not sure edited is the right word. Channeled would be better
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:46PM) : the downfunneled light is a way of being dramatic and creating a scene of light where there is no light. the downfunneled truly focuses on a single space as well, truly showing the nature of journalism and reporting: only certain areas can be lit up
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:28AM) : Right. Journalism is selective
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 20 2016 12:06AM) : The struggle in this scene is that the editor is attempting to make the reporter illuminate more than one section.
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Feb 28 2016 8:51PM) : Rand Shanna more

“Downfunnelled light” depicts the image of a very narrow, filtered light in the newsroom (which generally back in the day was an enormous room with no windows). Such a light in a windowless room is a representation of journalism itself. It shows that journalism has a certain focus/angle in a dark and grimy area (the world, perhaps).

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 29 2016 9:12AM) : Certain focus? What kind of focus?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Mar 01 2016 11:29PM) : A specific focus on significant occurrences, usually tragic ones.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 02 2016 9:35AM) : And sometimes the seamy side of life.
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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Feb 29 2016 9:48PM) : The downfunnelled light creates a center of attention in the dark, however the reporter was not paying attention to it. If not he would not get hurt with it.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 02 2016 9:36AM) : I'm not sure what this means. Hurt?
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 20 2016 12:07AM) : Hurt as in the illumination of deep secrets will be hurtful to him?
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 1:14AM) : Impact more

The impact the downfunnelled light has is how it is shedding light on a subject. The fact that it is downfunnelled means that the light is beaming down from above, illuminating specifically on one thing or one area. The surrounding area will be for the most part dim, showing how irrelevant other factors could be. Also, by focusing it on the reporter it foreshadows what is going to happen to the reporter, in a sense.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 21 2016 8:21AM) : What is going to happen?
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 5:08PM) : The reporter gets fired at the end of the chapter. more

The downfunnelled light also depicted the grim fate in a way. The word, “struck” gives this notion. I believe, If William Faulkner was to use the word, glistened, it would notion a much more positive outcome. However, this would possibly change the entire outcome of the chapter.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:28AM) : You are right to focus on "struck"
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 13 2016 4:11PM) : Safiya Sergeant more

Firstly, the “downfunnelled light” paints the image of what the room looks like. Dark, with only a cone of light shooting through. But also it gives us the idea of the dusty gloomy (gloom allegoring to hard to see through) city, and of all places that light (visibility & truth) can shine through it shines on the reporter so it shows his role.

Also, I can see this transforming the scene into one that notes the concentration on the reporter above all else.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 8:04AM) : Allegorizing, too.
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 15 2016 7:59AM) : Thought I'd turn it into a verb.
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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 6:33PM) : Downfunnelled Light more

The “downfunnelled light” from the scene paints the room as dark, being illuminated by a single light cast above its subjects. It drapes a dramatic shadow on the shapes below it. It sets a serious tone for the journalist, and reflects how he like is a single light trying to illuminate a whole room, being a single journalist trying to uncover an entire story.

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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 7:25PM) : I do agree with you that the light gives the sense of a reporter illuminating a dark scene, however, the light is illuminating the reporter. Maybe it's a way to show that the reporter still has secrets?
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 16 2016 1:52PM) : Light more

The downfunnelled light is in a way showing only one point of view – showing how journalism can be used to show only one viewpoint of a story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 17 2016 6:55AM) : But that isn't what journalism does or what the novel suggests.
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 18 2016 10:40PM) : Rephrase more

I suppose I should rephrase that. I meant something more along the lines of the light being used to expose a new side to a story, to shine light on something in a different way than was seen by others. Like how the editor wants something on a story that everyone has covered, but in a unique way that people couldn’t get from any other newspaper.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 19 2016 7:36AM) : A narrow sharply focused light that cannot reveal all of the story but shines in its own way.
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 20 2016 12:09AM) : The editor in a different section says how he wants th reporter to cover more than one viewpoints, be it with twins/triplets/regimes.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 01 2016 4:22PM) : What do you make of the novel's constant description of the reporter as corpse-like and a scarecrow? How does this relate to his journalism?
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 2:40PM) : Reporter's journalism more

the author makes him look like someone without a lot of energy. Almost resembles a cadaver. I feel this relates to his journalism in a very particular way since it seems that he is pressure to do his job in a more “professional way” while he might want to take a more creative approach. I believe that this would make him do the job with no real intentions or excitement just like a corpse.

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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 5:09PM) : Molly Deng more

I agree with this. The corpse-like description makes the report seem drained, perhaps because of the nature of the job and the tedious hours to get a story. I also want to add that the “corpse-like” description could imply that the are dead, in the sense that they have to distance themselves from a particular person or event, to do whatever it takes to get the story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:20AM) : But corpses and cadavers do not have energy, so I don't understand your explanation.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:24AM) : The life is draining out of him and he looks for a story to revive him
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 10:18PM) : Wenting Wu more

The term “corpse-like” let the readers think that the reporter is the type of person who does not have any facial expressions or who can’t feel any emotion. He is being very objective on the fact that he collected and won’t put any personal opinions on the event that he reports.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:25AM) : but the reporter is emotionally involved in the story he wants to tell.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:50PM) : I disagree. I think that it is the opposite. the reporter physically puts his life into his reporting, and the reporting is not treating the reporter well. The reporter is falling into the "dark" that was discussed earlier.
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:19PM) : corpse-like, scarecrow more

I think the theme of lifeless description serves to highlight his inefficiency to bring back solid stories, acting like a scarecrow and scaring away live leads.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:25AM) : Is inefficiency the problem?
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 7:27PM) : Inefficiency is part of the problem, but the larger issue is that he does not the knack for finding interesting details.
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 19 2016 12:15AM) : Journalism more

The corpse-like description allows us to visualize a man without any exciting features. He is fatigued with a pale and mundane expression. It relates to his journalism by the lack of accomplishments in his respective career. His lackadaisical personality seems to be derailing everything surrounding his career.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:27AM) : Lackadaisical would seem to be the wrong word. It is not what troubles the editor
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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 19 2016 2:07AM) : corpse like more

The reporter is a starving artist, someone who is more devoted to their work then to their appearance and their health. It can also imply that he is stressed and possibly past his prime. He is not very successful, and lives on a small salary, hence his messy wardrobe choices. There is a similarity between the journalist, and his subjects. The reporter is writing about a group of people who can be classified as artists themselves;they travel the world competing in races and performing stunts, don’t care about the money, and as the reporter described “ …not even thinking about the hotel bill over in town or where we are going to eat if we don’t win and how we are going to get to the next meet if the engine meltd and runs backward out of the exhaust pipe.”

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:27AM) : he is not starving, if you mean he cannot afford to eat. in what sense is he starving?
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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 20 2016 3:46PM) : starving more

I see him as someone who is starving for his big break. It is evident that this is not his first rodeo, so to speak, and based on the editor’s description of the reporter; he has a unique and necessary skill level, but has yet to see any worthy success. His soul is hungry for change, which is transparent on his corpse like face.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 9:16AM) : Regardless of how exhausted and tiring the reporter might be, he will stop at nothing to get his story. This relates to journalism because finding a story or reporting on a story can sometimes physically drain a journalist.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:30AM) : So the Reporter stands for the journalist, any journalist who is consumed by the stories he or she reports.
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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 10:25AM) : Corpse-like more

The novel’s description shows that the reporter is lethargic because of his workload. This relates to his journalism as stationary, he seems to be in a work-related rut and is searching for a breakthrough story to resurrect himself but also his career.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:20AM) : The reporter is not lethargic. Just look at what the editor says.
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 7:39PM) : The reporter is a sociable person, and is described as someone that will approach someone to make a story happen. I think he is just stressed, and this scene puts an emphasis on that with the use of the light.
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Feb 19 2016 8:30PM) : The description of the reporter being corpse-like and a scarecrow means that the reporter seems lifeless and this relates to his journalism because his stories are lacking that excitement of life.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:21AM) : Is the the editor's view of the Reporter's writing?
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:54PM) : The reporters work is not bad; quite the contrary. The editor is only making time to sit with the reporter because he sees promise. the reporter is good. This lifeless is in reference to something else.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:31AM) : I don't understand your last sentence.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:49PM) : It makes journalism seem deadening. i do not agree with the description at times because i simply cannot see anyone wanting to be a reporter if it makes them into something like that.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:32AM) : Don't concern yourself with you disagree or agree. Just focus on the passage and what it suggests
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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Feb 29 2016 10:02PM) : It means that he is creating something without emotions that looks so bad that the only think that will generate is sorrow and horror. [Edited]
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 7:50PM) : I agree with the feeling of sorrow, but I think the light is used to show those feelings on the reporter. Think of it like a microscope.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 6:03PM) : Reporter's workplace persona more

The reporter is described as such to illustrate his presence at the job. From how the reporter interacts with the other characters, he is quite the opposite. At work, the corpse-like description tells that his creative manner of reporting has been killed by the editor, and all that is left of his creativity is a corpse. The scarecrow reference tells that he is there at work, but not his talents, being that his manner of reporting is shunned and ridiculed by the editor. In other other words, a body without a soul. Now, editors do have the right to reject a reporter’s work, but in this case, the editor is basically demoralizing the reporter’s efforts.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:29AM) : I'm not sure I would blame the editor. I think it just as likely that the corpse like Reporter is suffering from emotional deprivation that he seeks to remedy by attaching himself to the flyers.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 6:12PM) : The reporter's relation to journalism more

In relation to the reporter’s journalism, there is a contradiction. From the story he discussed with his editor, it showed how personal the reporter likes to get. Surely, no corpse-like figure will report about, “two men, with one wife and child between them.” A story like that life to it.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:30AM) : Deprived of a whole life himself, the Reporter may be seeking it in others.
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 13 2016 4:46PM) : Safiya Sergeant more

The description of the reporter as a scarecrow = the reporter is constantly up and searching for a story, maybe he does his job so well he scares the rats off?

And being described corpse-like makes me think hes without life, needing a new story to revitalize the reporter.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 8:05AM) : The second explanation seems more persuasive than he first one
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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 6:36PM) : Corpse more

The reporter’s description as appearing “corpse-like” suggests that he is seems to be lifeless, searching for energy. This is reflects upon his journalism, he is searching for truth and story like he is searching for life.

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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 16 2016 1:53PM) : Corpse more

Is it supposed to be an allusion to his writing? In that the foundation is there, but the ‘meat’ or ‘heart’ of what the editor wants out of that story isn’t?

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 17 2016 6:57AM) : He is emotionally starved and looks to the flyers for sustenance.
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 18 2016 10:48PM) : Metaphorical more

So it’s still metaphorical, I just read the metaphor the wrong way?

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 19 2016 7:37AM) : Metaphorical and physical. The Reporter is extremely thin.
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Omer Seman Omer Seman (May 20 2016 11:27PM) : Reporter more

The reporter is always on the move, barely able to rest on his quest for the next great story. The editor has relegated him to dull, menial work. The thrill of the literary narrative was his life force and without it, he becomes corpse-like.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 01 2016 4:23PM) : Newspaper offices in the 1930s and even later were often dusty and gloomy, but what do such words suggest here in connection to the way journalism is practiced?
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 2:47PM) : Elvis Rosario more

Well, this was the time of the Great Depression. So, everything was pretty much darkness and negative thoughts. I feel like by dusty one would say that in this period time, to get the story you had to do some nasty/dirty stuff to get into the characters’mind and get them to talk. We have to remember in this period of time people were working under a hostile environment and government trying to rise the economy.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:28AM) : not everything
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 5:14PM) : Molly Deng more

I agree with Elvis that the gloominess of the newspaper offices reflects the era where everybody was very down because of the economy. The dusty I interpret to mean old and irrelevant, like when something is on a shelf for a long time and collects a lot of dust. In this respect, perhaps Faulkner is commenting on the way journalism was being practiced in the 1930s, and how it was a little outdated.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:29AM) : not everybody is very down. who is sponsoring the event?
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 10:24PM) : Wenting Wu more

The words dusty and gloomy here suggest that the way journalism is practiced is nasty and negative. They suggest that the reporters will report any thing that can attract people’s attention regardless of how the people in the story feel or how harmful the story will be to the people.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:30AM) : dusty and gloomy have nothing to do with nasty and negative
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:24PM) : dusty, gloomy more

Dust only covers things that are old and unused, and gloominess is a result of a lack of vibrancy and energy, which show how journalism wasn’t as bustling and alive during this era.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:31AM) : actually it was quite bustling and alive. the dust and darkness mean something else
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Feb 19
Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 19 2016 12:22AM) : Dusty and Gloomy more

These negative words suggest a period of time that lacks many joyful moments. Dusty can relate to journalism being stale, as writers are either writing repetitive headlines or focusing on the same story without any authenticity. Gloomy is a dark overview about any particular setting or story. As some mentioned above, The Great Depression likely played a pivotal role in this disappointing era of journalism.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:32AM) : Stale, yesandnot clean--in fact grubby or grimy
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Feb 19
Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 19 2016 2:09AM) : dusty and gloomy more

Based on adjectives such as “dusty” and “gloomy” it seems like journalism in the 1930’s was dirty, in the sense that reporters went against ethics to get the story. They also suggest that the offices were not well taken care of, similarly to the reporter himself, because the occupation paid very little.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:33AM) : Yes, except for star reporters or columnists
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 9:35AM) : Dusty and gloomy suggest that reporters were almost always outside the office looking for their next story or reporting on their stories that they did not spend a lot of time in the office and that was why the office was often dusty and gloomy.
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Feb 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:33AM) : I think you miss the point. The office would be dusty be gloomy no matter how much time the reporters spend in it. The novel is making a different point.
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Feb 19
Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Feb 19 2016 11:53PM) : Treasure Kim more

The journalism is practiced in a “dusty” and “gloomy” way due to how it’s frustrating and monotonous. A room full of dust is frustrating and depressing. It’s also difficult to breathe, which can represent how the journalism practiced during that time is deprived of life.

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Feb 20
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:21AM) : Not frustrating and monotonous. I think you missed the point.
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Feb 22
Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:56PM) : this makes journalism look like a dark path. the "suit that looked as if someone else had just finished sleeping in it." This is just a downright dirty way of describing something.
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Feb 28 2016 9:46PM) : Dusty Gloomy - Rand Shannak more

Journalism lives for events, and journalism of certain eras becomes the defining moment of that era, which in this case was The Great Depression, the dark days in America. In such times people looked more to newspapers than before. Journalism shone a light on the dark days by spreading education, they faced the gloominess and when you are so concerned with a subject/event for a stretch of time it becomes of your profession, the dark and gloomy depression became of the profession of journalism.

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Feb 29
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 29 2016 9:16AM) : Than ever before? How could you prove that? How much do you know about the history of American journalism?
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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 01 2016 1:50AM) : answer more

The connection must be related with ethics. Because if the news are dusty, it means that there is something not clear in its content. And if the news are gloomy, is because it is attacking something or someone focusing in get the public opinion against them, no matter what.

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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 6:51PM) : Thoughts more

It is interesting how you connect the words, “gloomy” and “dusty” to the ethics of journalism in the 1930s. The way I see it, the times are so slow that there would not be much to report on, or there are events to report on, but limited job opportunities prevent journalism. This inability to report, gives the field of journalism a dusty and gloomy definition.

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Mar 22
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:32AM) : Slow? The 1930s was a great age for journalism, with many exciting events to cover.
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Mar 21
Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 6:42PM) : 1930s and journalism more

The dusty and gloomy descriptions of newspaper offices could be relating to the the time period, being that it was during the Great Depression. Perhaps, newspaper offices could not employ as much, leaving offices empty and allowing dust to collect.

In terms of how journalism is being practiced, the difficult times could lead to dull stories, being that not much is happening to report on. This could give the impression that journalism is affected by society, rather than journalist’s ability to report and make an impression.

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Mar 22
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:31AM) : Have you been in many newspapers offices? They are often dirty, dusty, and not well lit. This would have been even truer, of course, in the thirties.
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Omer Seman Omer Seman (Apr 25 2016 8:59PM) : Dusty and gloomy more

Newspapers offices were unkempt because journalists didn’t care about the aesthetics of where they wrote. It could be argued that their real “workspace” is outside the office, interviewing subjects and being a passive (or in this case, active) observer of the world. It feels “gloomy” because the thrill comes from interacting with people, not sitting behind a desk.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 26 2016 7:23AM) : Your answer does not quite explain why it is gloomy, or what the quality of Iight signifies.
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May 20
Omer Seman Omer Seman (May 20 2016 11:31PM) : Gloomy light more

The room is gloomy because the reporter isn’t able to chase down the stories he feeds off of for energy. He, like the “downfunnelled light,” is limited in scope due to his editor’s restrictions.

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May 13
Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 13 2016 5:10PM) : Safiya Sergeant more

Journalism is a technique to clean up the dust, clear out the gloom.

OR journalism presents us news that is accurate, clear and theres no ancillary information.

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May 14
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 8:06AM) : Or can journalism also contribute to the dust and gloom?
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May 15
George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 6:44PM) : Dusty and gloomy more

This illustration of dusty and gloomy suggests that the journalism practiced is stale and unappealing. It suggests that the writing lacks excitement or newness.

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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 16 2016 1:54PM) : Gloomy more

Words like ‘dusty’ and ‘gloomy’ bring to mind the word ‘dirty.’ I think it’s trying to get at how unethical journalists acted during these times and how they were willing to go as far they needed to in order to get a story, ethics be damned.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 17 2016 6:58AM) : Sometimes, yes
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 01 2016 4:23PM) : it is almost as if editor and reporter are in an aquarium. Why?
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Feb 18
Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Feb 18 2016 3:30PM) : I think this comparison was done because an aquarium is gloomy but there is still a dim presence of light. Also, it gives a feeling of no escape; fishes cannot escape the water and neither can the reporter and editor from their office.
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 5:21PM) : Molly Deng more

I completely agree with this—a small, dirty, cramped environment, with dim artificial light but at the same time, everything that is necessary to survive is there. It’s as if the editor and the reporter are in their own little world, watching the rest of the world from their aquarium.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:34AM) : cramped--agood word
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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:34AM) : journalists are like creatures of the deep
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 9:36PM) : Explanation more

I agree. Specifically in the sense that journalist have to dig deep to find answers or to prove a theory, for example. Also, in a journalists search for such accounts, they will go to places that most people do not, similar to how creatures of the deep are in places that most people will never get to see.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:36AM) : Right
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Feb 18
Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 10:33PM) : Wenting Wu more

The phrase “at water to fish” demonstrates the connection between the office and the people in the office. Office is the only place that both the editor and the reporter be alive. It is also the place that traps their lives.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:35AM) : trap--very good
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:32PM) : aquarium more

The description sounds like a metaphor for the relationship between a journalist and their story, which is also something they are only allowed to to observe and report on, and no matter how close they get to the story, they aren’t supposed to directly affect it.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:35AM) : good point
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 19 2016 12:29AM) : Aquarium more

There are many references during this paragraph, which relates to an aquarium like setting. “Water at fish” correlates with the reporter’s situation. Also when you look at an aquarium’s structure, it’s very narrow without much breathing room. That is somewhat reminiscent of the reporter and editor, who can’t seem to find a clear solution to deal with this difficult climate. It has started to take over their respective lives.

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Feb 19
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:36AM) : Right
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 9:45AM) : It is almost as if the editor and the reporter are in an aquarium because they are physically in a small and contained space where they get their work done.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:23AM) : But why does it have to be an aquarium?
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Feb 20
Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Feb 20 2016 12:18AM) : An aquarium and not a zoo because it is literally gloomier and darker, like the journalism itself. I also thought that maybe because writing is like the flow of water?
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:22AM) : Water does not flow in an aquarium
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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 10:41AM) : Aquarium more

The editor and reporter are confined in tight, filthy corridors for hours on end which has exhausted and consumed their lives. They are “as water to fish,” which describes the constant spectacle they exist in under the public eye, such a fish is in an exhibition.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:22AM) : Good point
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 2:00PM) : I like this point and what i read earlier, that reporters are like creatures of the deep: sneaking up and getting you when you least expect. The whole feel is ominously dark.
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Feb 19 2016 11:59PM) : Treasure Kim [Edited] more

An aquarium is a living space for underwater creatures, but it is also a prison. The limited space that they are cramped into, however wide it may seem, is not enough compared to the vast ocean. Both the reporter and editor are imprisoned to their work and they must learn to coexist with one another like sea creatures. “As appropriate as water to fish” also seems to show the necessity of their jobs for their survival.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:23AM) : The reporter and editor are in the same tank, which limits their sphere of activity.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:58PM) : This is because the environment is artificial and the comparison is almost completely synonymous. the small size. the artificial light. it all feeds into that feel
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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 01 2016 1:20AM) : Because they share a space where they can dedicate their time to do what they want and they do not need to go outside to keep doing what they really like. As the fishes that do not need to go back to the sea is they are already swimming
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 9:15PM) : Aquarium explanation more

This correlation can be made due to the field of work that the reporter and editor are in. Journalism to a degree has strict boundaries similar to how an aquarium is secured. The boundaries are the ethics of journalism.

Fish in the ocean can swim freely, but fish in an aquarium are confined. These two characters are also confined. This is especially shown in there dialogue of what constitutes good reporting.

This is easily seen when comparing the reporter and editor to a character like Jiggs, who is living the more carefree, boarder-less life.

What’s interesting is how the reader can make the connection of these two characters to fish based on their occupation, but the reporter sees himself and the editor as human, but the other characters as something else, “because they ain’t human like us” based the other characters’ occupation.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:34AM) : Acquiring images may also suggest an underworld that journalists are part of.
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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 6:48PM) : Aquarium more

The aquarium is a good analogy for the existence of the editor and reporter. On one hand, an aquarium sustains underwater life, but it also restricts their life to the confines of if its walls. The editor and reporter do this because it is their life, but they are also limited by it.

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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 16 2016 1:55PM) : Aquarium more

They’re both physically confided in a small space, but it’s in that small space that they thrive and survive in the world, just an aquarium does for fish.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 17 2016 6:58AM) : Confined?
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 18 2016 10:47PM) : Yes more

Yes, confined, not confided.

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Jan 1
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 01 2016 4:24PM) : Reporters in movies are often shown as rumpled and untidy. Why?
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 3:00PM) : Elvis Rosario more

Well, for one, journalism requires a lot of dedication and labor. Someone that takes the challenge of this profession has to agree to long hours and days. Our reporter might not even have the time to take care of his needs since he needs to be on the job 24/7.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:37AM) : it is a job that leads to obsession
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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Feb 18 2016 3:32PM) : I believe reporters are portrayed as untidy because they are constantly trying to get their work done that they forget about their own personal lives and personal upkeep. They are also under a lot of stress and pressure to get their work in on time.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:37AM) : yes
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 5:24PM) : Molly Deng more

Reporters are often depicted as rumpled and untidy because their job consumes their life. The news itself is so messy that in the reporter’s quest to get the story, they do whatever it takes, forgoing basic hygiene.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:37AM) : Correct
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 10:37PM) : Wenting Wu more

The movies want to show how busy the reporters are and how obsess the reporters are about their job which don’t leave any time for them to care about their appearance or personal lives.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:38AM) : obsessed
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:35PM) : rumpled, untidy more

In showing reporters as rumpled and untidy, films show their audience the hardworking and nonstop nature of journalists, as if they spend every second they can to chase a story and make deadlines and can’t possibly have time to clean after themselves if their priority is their job.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:39AM) : yes
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 19 2016 12:37AM) : Reporters in movies more

Reporters are viewed as workhorses that play an essential role in setting up a dramatic story. They can be utilized as peacemakers to clear up an incident or forced into an uncomfortable situation by sharing unfortunate news. The rumpled portrayal comes from their rigorous lifestyle featuring mostly work and minimal pleasure. Untidy can be viewed in a similar manner by their disheveled look and constantly being on the move. Obtaining information about a specific story becomes their biggest priority over simple daily methods such as eating regular meals or dressing properly.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 8:39AM) : Focused entirely on the job
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 9:54AM) : I completely agree. Reporters have very little time for a social life.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:23AM) : Although the reporter is, in a way, creating something like a social life because of his involvement in the story.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 9:31PM) : Opinion more

I think reporters need to have a social lives to succeed in their profession. This is because a reporter has multiple topics to write about, and to report on a specific topic, one must have the right connections to get the access or inside knowledge to finish the story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:35AM) : Create the right connections to develop sources no one else has found.
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 9:52AM) : Reporters are often shown as rumpled and untidy on the screen because their work can be physically demanding and it can take a toll on reporters.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:24AM) : And also something else might be indicated by their inattention to the way they dress. What might that be?
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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 10:47AM) : Rumpled and untidy more

Reporters are shown this way to highlight their high levels of commitment to their work. It can also reference the lack of concern they have for their own well-being because they have been devoured by the daily pressure of meeting deadlines and providing quality work.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:24AM) : Reporters are shown as unconventional, not worrying about how they look to others.
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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 01 2016 1:14AM) : answer more

Because those are the main characteristics of a reporter. Rumpled because the reporter has the story and he can do whatever he wants with it, of course the audience, readers and public in general will expect the true in the news that is why a reporter must be ethical. In the other hand a reporter is shown as untidy because his work will depend of relevant events of public interest that most of the time do not have any previous schedule.That means that his disponibility must be unlimited.

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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Mar 21 2016 9:22PM) : Reasons more

I believe this is because the life of a journalist is fast-paced. A journalist, for the most part needs to be where the news is happening, to get the most out of a story or to be the first to report about it. Such a demanding life style, prevents a journalist from always being tidy. In addition, the stresses of the job could also lead to rumpled, untidy lifestyle.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 22 2016 8:34AM) : And the journalist may not care about being conventionally well dressed. That's why he or she is a journalist.
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 16 2016 2:48PM) : Rand Shannak more

Reporters are often illustrated as rumpled and untidy in movies because they are generally thought of as hard-working and determined, leading them to do anything to do the story and losing sleep over it causing them to come off disheveled because they have no time to maintain a high appearance.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 17 2016 7:27AM) : No time and no interest. Why?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 21 2016 7:17PM) : Rand more

They come off as having no time and no interest because they are entirely absorbed in the sorry they are currently pursuing; they have an obsessive quality when it comes to their work and neglect everything else because they feel constrained by time to get the best and most “insider” insight for their story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 22 2016 7:17AM) : Story?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 26 2016 12:58AM) : Rand more

For their news article or alternate form of nonfiction writing (biography, autobiography, narrative, etc) that requires investigation, observation and acquisition of facts

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 26 2016 7:23AM) : Ok
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 13 2016 5:32PM) : Safiya Sergeant more

I think reporters are often depicted as rumpled and untidy because they’re seen as people in a dirty profession. Who cant hold themselves together because theyre trying to hold the story together.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 8:07AM) : Good point
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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 6:50PM) : Reporters more

Reporters are often illustrated as rumpled and untidy to illustrate the obsessive and consuming nature of their work. They become involved in their subjects and in a way, become subject to them. Reporters are under pressure to fulfill their duties.

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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 16 2016 1:55PM) : Untidy more

I think it’s done to show how much reporters really live for the job. They’re always chasing a new story, so much so that they don’t have time to pay attention to their appearance or their personal surroundings. They only pay attention to that of those they report on.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 17 2016 6:59AM) : Yes, that's one way to look at their appearance.
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