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"If one of them takes his airplane or his parachute and murders her and the child in front of the grandstand, then it will be news. But until they do, what I am paying you to bring back here is not what you think about somebody out there nor what you heard about somebody out there nor even what you saw: I expect you to come in here tomorrow night with an accurate account of everything that occurs out there tomorrow that creates any reaction excitement or irritation on any human retina; if you have to be twins or triplets or even a regiment to do this, be so."

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 05 2016 10:32AM) : Why isn't it just enough for the reporter to write what he saw? Why is it wrong to write what others tell him? What is the editor looking for? [Edited]
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Feb 28 2016 10:11PM) : Subjective vs. Objective more

It is important in news to be objective, so that the information does not vary/alter. Writing what he saw will plainly tell the facts. When people tell a story from what they saw you are getting what happened according to their feelings and memory, which is not reliable and unfair to the facts of the story. Also subjective information can vary from one person to another depending on situational and emotional factors that they endured during the event. Also people have selective memory, they may forget major parts that completely alter the story or make additions that they thought happened. It is like the game of telephone, everyone perceives, remembers and understands an event or situation differently and you cannot rely on eye testimony. The editor is looking for straightforward facts and facts only. News must be objective, not subjective.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 29 2016 9:18AM) : The editor is worried about the Reporter's involvement in the story, but the Reporter thinks he cannot get the story without becoming involved.
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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 16 2016 5:38PM) : It could be because the reporter must have supporting evidences for everything he is going to write. And assume what happens is not part of his investigation.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 17 2016 10:22PM) : The Reporter is going beyond what the editor requires.
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (May 14 2016 11:07AM) : And in some sense risks his story by involving himself in the story.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 15 2016 8:20AM) : Yes, a possibility.
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 19 2016 1:45PM) : In response to Rand and Professor Rollyson more

The same could still be said for the reporter as in if he were to write what he saw, he could also tend to focus on some parts more than others, or write in a tone that is biased without trying to purposefully be biased. He’s writing from memory just as much as someone who would recount a story through conversation.

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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 29 2016 11:46PM) : Editor vs reporter more

The reporter should remain unbiased, and deliver a new story based on facts and events that everyone at the airshow witnesses. The editor wants him to deliver a piece written to target the masses, who are all interested in the stunts and unbelievable races rather than the life of Laverene and her children. The editor doesn’t want an account that is too personal; he believes that reporters should maintain a certain distance. Their eyes are like cameras, capturing visuals and then turning them into words, as they actually are and not as the reporters interpret them to be.

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George Ocampo George Ocampo (Mar 02 2016 9:57PM) : Editor & Reporter more

The editor is trying to make it very clear that he does not want the reporter to become too involved with the story. He knows the reporter seeks to become more involved as a part of his story, but the editor wishes for a more detached perspective. Quite simply, the editor wants the reporter to provide an account whose headline can catch a reader’s attention, whereas the reporter really wants to get to the heart of the story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 03 2016 8:39AM) : Good answer
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Mar 11 2016 12:15AM) : Wenting Wu more

I agree that the reporter didn’t think reporting what he saw was enough and the editor just want the story that could effectively catch one’s attention regardless of what the heart or truth of the story. And it was wrong to write what others tell him because hearsay was not necessary the truth.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 11 2016 8:38AM) : The Reporter has to be in control of the story. To much quoting might destroy that control.
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 20 2016 12:22AM) : Aren't they chasing the same thing, but in a different manner. I think the editor is being like this because he wants more articles as opposed to more detailed articles.
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Mar 03 2016 1:22PM) : Molly Deng more

It’s not enough for the reporter to write what he saw because that’s just his observations. Observations alone don’t make for news or an exciting story that people would want to read. Writing what others tell him is not enough either because his story would hinge on the recollection and words of someone else—it’s not 100% accurate. The editor is looking for him to bring back an accurate account of something newsworthy that will generate discussion or just a reaction from the readers.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:14AM) : correct
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Elvira Amparo De La Cruz Elvira Amparo De La Cruz (Mar 03 2016 3:26PM) : The reporter should remain unbiased more

It is not enough for the reporter to write what he saw because, he is able to perceive what he saw in in any tone that is desirable to him, and not to the reader, the editor here wants straight facts that are going to cause a response, he doesn’t care what type of response he just wants one. what others tell him maybe subjective or even a lie. the editor expects accuracy and engagement, but not to much to where he looses himself. He also wants the reporter to do whatever he can to make it happen.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:15AM) : a good understanding of what the editor demands
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (Mar 03 2016 8:23PM) : No personal interest more

Anyone can give an account of a event, simply writing what they saw. It is expected of him to go over the event with a fine tooth comb. Giving readers more than what our own eyes see. However, the editor doesn’t want anything partial,he wants a story that has observable backing.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:15AM) : the editor wants comprehensiveness and dramatic details
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 8:06PM) : As said above, anyone can go and give an account. Are you trying to say that it has to do more with the writing. The events will be the same regardless of what happens, but how you tell them is what matters?
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Mar 03 2016 8:33PM) : The editor wants the reporter to submit a story that will be completely accurate. However, he does not want the reporter to become attached to the story. [Edited]
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:16AM) : to the story or to the people involved in the story/
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Mar 04 2016 5:45AM) : E.Rosario more

The reporter its emotionally attached with these people, so to him only describing facts will be really hard since he feels and urge of getting involved in the narrative. the editor is looking for just news, Something that will catch the eyes and the mind of the audience.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:17AM) : The editors wants the reporter to be engaged in the story but detached enough to see it clearly.
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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 04 2016 11:18AM) : A reporter could bring back what he or she saw but that would be the same as an eyewitness account. The editor is looking for something that's different and has more of an edge to it that will grab the reader's attention but still understand what happened
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 05 2016 5:11PM) : yes, the editor wants the drama of the event that is also a kind of explanation.
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Mar 04 2016 11:06PM) : Treasure Kim more

It’s not enough for the reporter to write what he sees because doing that might not be as exciting as he wants his stories to be. He also might only be catching a glimpse of what the truth is, which can be far from his point of view. Writing what others tell him will be like writing about their perspectives, and they may leave out certain facts to avoid problems or humiliation. The editor wants the reporter to dig for the information, but stay unbiased.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 05 2016 5:11PM) : Unbiased in the sense of not becoming involved
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Mar 11 2016 11:25AM) : The editor is looking for the truth. He does not want the involvement of the reporter inside the account. To do this, he has to write "what happened" and how others reacted; for all of that is fact.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 12 2016 7:53AM) : The truth of what happens but not necessarily the whole truth--just the events and personalities as related to the event. The Reporter is going too far afield.
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 8:10PM) : I think its more like the reporter is focusing far too much on a small amount of individual accounts. Instead the editor wants the reporter to give a 360 description of what happened.
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Mar 31 2016 1:54PM) : Editor vs. Reporter more

It’s not enough because you need to garner outside information from what they saw on experience. There is simply more substance that is needed than just witnessing something first hand. The editor wants a more structured viewpoint that will gravitate to the reader by focusing on the central idea. Solely relying on observations doesn’t do a story enough justice.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 01 2016 7:59AM) : They?
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (May 05 2016 8:56PM) : Thoughts more

I agree with you, if by “they” you mean the reporter. He really does need to evaluate what he saw before reporting on it. Also, something that one might find interesting might not be interesting to the public that is reading the paper. This understanding of what society views as news is important to remember, when writing about what one sees.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 06 2016 8:16AM) : The difference between writing for others and writing for yourself.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (May 05 2016 8:30PM) : Reporting qualities more

Its not just enough for the reporter to write what he he sees, because looks can be deceiving. Also, information takes time to get processed. A second-take can reveal a different story that what was first perceived.

In terms of writing what others tell him, this is may be wrong because of the validity of the source. Eye-witness accounts can hold merit, but relying too much on other’s interpretation reduces the quality of the report.

What the editor is looking for are stories that have importance and provide some value to the reader. Also, with the proper means of evidence.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 06 2016 8:15AM) : Right
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 17 2016 1:23PM) : Reporter more

The reporter really wants to get involved and dig deep to get to the real hear of the story, but the editor is saying that the reporter can’t be so directly involved – that he needs to get the headline and get out.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:50AM) : Heart?
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 18 2016 10:50PM) : Heart. more

Yes, I meant heart, not hear.

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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 19 2016 2:14PM) : In response to overall question more

It isn’t just enough for the reporter to write what he saw because he needs credibility to back up what he saw. That credibility comes from straight facts. It is wrong to write what others tell him because if he relies solely on their information to portray a story and they tell him different versions of one event, the story is not only not factual, its not credible and could cost the newspaper their reputation.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 05 2016 10:32AM) : What are the ethical implications of the editor's last statement?
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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 29 2016 11:46PM) : Ethics more

He is telling the reporter to be ethically correct by remaining unbiased, and refraining from crossing the personal boundaries between subject and friend. There are certain ethical principles he expects the reporter to stay true to, just as a lawyer is expected to do their job of defending his client without personal beliefs getting in the way, as is a journalist. It’s all about getting the story, but still remaining professional.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 03 2016 8:40AM) : Don't let your feelings compromise the story. [Edited]
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George Ocampo George Ocampo (Mar 02 2016 10:10PM) : Ethics more

The editor’s last statement is meant to tell the reporter to separate himself from the story. The analogy of twins/triplets/regiment suggests the reporter to separate from himself in order to maintain the boundaries of professionalism a reporter should have when writing a story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 03 2016 8:41AM) : Right
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 8:39PM) : I took the twin/triplet/regiment statement at face value, but it is interesting to see how you interpret this. My thought is that he wants to have multiple perspectives of the event, and not just the reporter's viewpoint.
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Mar 03 2016 1:23PM) : Molly Deng more

The editor’s last statement implies that the reporter’s perception of what is right and wrong in terms of what a journalist should do, is blurring. As a journalist, he is expected to be professional and the editor can see that he’s getting too involved. In him saying that, you could tell that the editor cares for the reporter above an employer and employee relationship.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:18AM) : Yes, in effect the editor is saying do what you are paid for.
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Elvira Amparo De La Cruz Elvira Amparo De La Cruz (Mar 03 2016 3:29PM) : The editor remains ethical by stating " i expect you to come in here tomorrow night with an accurate account..." more

He is telling the reporter leave his personality behind and simply provide what is needed; accurate facts. again the reporter must remain professional and follow journalistic guidelines

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:18AM) : He does not want the reporter to use the story to fulfill some kind of psychological need.
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Mar 03 2016 8:04PM) : A reporter's job is to get to the bottom of a story and report the facts without getting emotionally involved. If the reporter gets emotionally attached it would not only cloud his vision but it would be unethical. [Edited]
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:19AM) : right
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (Mar 03 2016 8:42PM) : Ethics more

The editor implies from his last statement, that he holds the reporter to the ethics(moral standards) of a good journalist. Specifically, by asking for “an accurate account.” whilst, it is principle of a journalist to lift the veil for the public, at the same time he must be transparent. I feel like the editor wants the story but not the story behind the scenes, to him that is a whole other story, seperate to the one the reporter is delivering.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:20AM) : you make a valid distinction between the two kinds of stories
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Mar 04 2016 5:51AM) : The editor more

The editor wants the reporter to fully cooperate with the idea of just creating a story that will sell newspaper and not getting involved with this people. The editor is asking the reporter to act with a sense of accuracy and objectivity.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:20AM) : Yes, the editor wants solid reporting, nothing more.
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Mar 04 2016 11:26PM) : Since a regiment is an army, an ethical implication would be the sense of duty a reporter should have. A reporter should do his work like a soldier "reporting for duty."
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 05 2016 5:16PM) : I don't think that is the meaning of regiment here. He is saying the reporter has to be more than himself: twins, a regiment, play several roles, in other words.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (May 05 2016 9:22PM) : Thoughts more

I thought by being twins, triplets or a regiment, the editor is asking the reporter to have many takes on the stories he is going to write about. By evaluating his work through multiple lenses, he will be able to determine if the story is newsworthy.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 06 2016 8:18AM) : Yes
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Mar 11 2016 11:26AM) : Its an analogy between the twins and the reporter. The reporter must be separate from his other personalities in order to gain an unbiased story.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 12 2016 7:54AM) : Separate or use all parts of himself to get the story?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (May 14 2016 11:10AM) : It depends on the story and people involved, I think.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 15 2016 8:22AM) : What does the it refer to?
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Apr 28 2016 5:34PM) : Ethical implications more

By stressing about accuracy, this indicates an objective mindset when doing your job as a journalist. The editor stresses neutrality that produces some type of emotion or reaction out of the reader.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 29 2016 4:29PM) : a good way to put it.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (May 05 2016 9:13PM) : Implication more

The editor is asking the reporter to bring factual work. Him mentioning, “accurate account” tells that the editor does not work produced through emotion, but rather unbiased evidence. The ethical implications of the editor’s statement also shows the strong work ethic he has and the quality he looks for from his reporters.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 06 2016 8:17AM) : True
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (May 14 2016 11:09AM) : The editors last statement is emotional, and shows that he has invested himself more than he should have in the people, to the extent that he cannot draw a line and step away and they have become an obsession as he personalized the subjects.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 15 2016 8:21AM) : True, although the editor is also cautioning the Reporter to keep his own emotions under control.
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 17 2016 1:24PM) : Ethics more

The editor is saying that the journalist is too close to what he’s writing about, that there are boundaries to what the journalist can and cannot do and the journalist needs to see and respect those boundaries.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:51AM) : But is this ethical or just a matter of sound practice?
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 18 2016 10:45PM) : Ethics more

I hadn’t really considered that. I’d say that it’s more a matter of ethics, because the reporter’s closeness to the subject is affecting his ability to write the story his editor needs him to.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 19 2016 7:05AM) : But is closeness itself unethical. Could it sometimes be the best way to get the story?
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"So,” Hagood said. He looked up at the still face above him which for the time had that calm sightless contemplation of a statue. “Why dont you let these people alone?” he said. Now the blank eyes waked; the reporter looked at Hagood for a full minute. His voice was as quiet as Hagood’s. “I cant,” he said.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 05 2016 10:34AM) : Why can't the reporter leave these people alone? Why doesn't the editor understand the reporter?
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Mar 03 2016 1:24PM) : Molly Deng more

The reporter can’t leave these people alone because he can’t remove himself from the story he’s writing, he’s too emotionally involved at this point, he inserted himself in the situation. The editor can’t understand the reporter because he doesn’t work in the field, he just sits in his office. Unlike the reporter, he’s too removed from the situation.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Mar 03 2016 8:23PM) : I agree because now that reporter is emotionally invested in the story, it's impossible for him to detach himself from it.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:21AM) : Good point.
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Ayannah Woods Ayannah Woods (Mar 03 2016 2:22PM) : The reporter is so emotional invested in to only the story, but also the people within the story. Once he passed that point of unprofessionalism his stories will always be biased. more
The editor doesn’t understand the reported because he will always be distanced from every story. His role as editor is to give feedback and make corrections on any story given to him. The editor is not responsible for the face to face meetings as the reporter is.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:22AM) : Yes, the editor can be detached in a way that proves difficult for the reporter.
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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 8:47PM) : This point is especially interesting when compared to how the editor reacts when he meets these people. He has a friendly interaction, and it shows that the editor does not feel attached for the reason you stated.
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Elvira Amparo De La Cruz Elvira Amparo De La Cruz (Mar 03 2016 3:35PM) : once you are in as deep it is tough to get out, the reporter couldn't get out even if he wanted to more

he states that he cant because he has already been to involved into the story. Th editor doesn’t understand because he is used to just the technical aspect of writing and that is more factual , where as the reporter has a deeper meaning behind his writing, it is hard for the reporter to see it black and white.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:23AM) : The reporter becomes interested in the nuances of the story.
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Mar 04 2016 5:53AM) : E.Rosario more

Well, first of all, the editor its not the one dealing with these people in a daily basis.And, The reporter has gotten so in-merged into the story that now it seems impossible to separate himself from it.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 04 2016 8:24AM) : The story is now part of the reporter's quest, which is beyond what the editor requires or understands.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 05 2016 5:12PM) : Do you mean immersed?
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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (Mar 04 2016 11:23AM) : The reporter has gotten so emotionally invested in the people that make up the story and the editor can't comprehend this. The editor has a different role than the reporter and he can't understand his perspective. more

The story has become a part of the reporter’s life and for the editor, it is simply part of his job.

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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 8:49PM) : I think the editor also thinks of this job as part of his life, however, he is trying to make a decision that will benefit the paper. Decisions like those are often mistaken as emotionless.
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (Mar 04 2016 11:17PM) : Treasure Kim more

The reporter can’t leave the people alone because after becoming so involved, it’s like he’s become part of the story. His attachment to the story is not something the editor would understand because he’s not surrounding himself with the story like the reporter.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 05 2016 5:13PM) : What is it about the flyers that attracts the Reporter?
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Mar 11 2016 11:27AM) : The reporter is too involved to leave the people alone at this point. He is inside of that story. The editor does not get it because he never truly delved into a story like this reporter has; he is detached.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 12 2016 7:55AM) : And the editor wants more detachment from the Reporter.
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Mar 31 2016 3:48PM) : Reporter's investment [Edited] more

The different mindsets between editor and reporter couldn’t be more evident. Editor is solely focused on finding information and composing it within a professional manner. Reporter has to interact with people, along with listening to their thoughts. That can lead them towards being emotionally invested. The editor can’t understand his thought process, while the reporter remains attached.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 01 2016 8:01AM) : The editor's defintion of a story is different from the Reporter's. The editor wants narrative and the Reporter wants what?
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Omer Seman Omer Seman (Apr 26 2016 2:02PM) : Reporter more

The reporter wants a biographical story to depict the human condition from a personal perspective.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 27 2016 7:45AM) : right
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Apr 28 2016 5:40PM) : Reporter more

The reporter wants details to the story based on becoming so emotionally involved within the story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 29 2016 4:30PM) : yes
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 17 2016 1:24PM) : The Reporter more

The reporter has become invested in these people and the story. He’s spent too much time caring about it all on a personal level that he can’t simply let it go just because his editor wants him to. The editor doesn’t understand because he hasn’t actually been interacting with these people and becoming part of it all. The reporter has made this story a part of himself and the editor will never be able to fully understand that connection.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:53AM) : The editor might understand but doesn't believe such intimacy will produce the kind of story expected by the paper's owners and readers.
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 19 2016 2:54PM) : The reporter can't leave these people alone because.... more

The reporter can’t leave these people alone because not only is he emotionally invested in them, they provide rich details that tell a greater, even better story than what’s presented directly up front. I don’t think its that the editor doesn’t understand the reporter, I think its that there are certain guidelines that he needs to abide by in order to please the people on top, and there is no room for error.

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Manuel Melo Manuel Melo (May 19 2016 8:58PM) : I'll go even further and say that the newspaper itself is not targeting an audience that reads long elaborate stories. The editors reprimands make it seem like this is a paper for the cut and dry reader.
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