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"McGinniss stayed in California a week, and during his stay MacDonald put his empty condominium—a half hour’s drive from the prison—at McGinniss’s disposal. McGinniss slept in a guest room-office, and during the day (he visited MacDonald in the late afternoon) he would read in the massive files on the case that MacDonald kept there and had given him carte blanche to rifle. McGinniss found so much of interest in the files that he asked MacDonald if he might take some of the material back home with him; the ever-obliging MacDonald agreed, and even lent him a suitcase in which to cart the stuff."

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 10 2016 10:09AM) : What do these details tell you about McGinnis? Why does the reporter stay with MacDonald? Why is MacDonald "ever-obliging?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 26 2016 1:08AM) : Rand more

McGinnis developed a close relationship with the accused murderer MacDonald. He is stepping into MacDonalds territory to achieve a sense of the setting and how MacDonalds perhaps acts within the setting being as it is so close to the prison. This excerpt displays McGinnis over-determination in investigating the story and retrieving as much insider information from MacDonald. By staying with him he has created a dangerously close relationship in order to not only hear what MacDonald must say about himself but observe him in his most intimate place. MacDonald is readily willing to provide McGinnis with the files perhaps because they help his case and put him in a positive light/give information that he wants McGinnis to know/mention in the book about him.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 26 2016 7:24AM) : Good answer
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 09 2016 2:10PM) : Wenting Wu more

As a reporter, the reason why McGinnis decided to stay closely with MacDonald is to gain trust or build friendly relationship with the accused murderer. While staying closely with MacDonald, he would have a better chance to find out some secretes about the subject. However, on the other hand, it would be a good chance for MacDonald as well. He could drag a creditable reporter to be on his side or gain his trust by being friendly and showing the files which contains positive information.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 10 2016 7:11AM) : So both sides may profit and lose by establishing a close connection.
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 10 2016 2:41PM) : Wenting wu more

Yes. and because both sides value more on the profit side, they decided stay together.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 11 2016 7:07AM) : Each needs the other to succeed, or at least that's how it looks to them.
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Ayannah Woods Ayannah Woods (May 13 2016 11:47AM) : I am not sure how much power is given to a reporter to be able to vouch for a criminal in a murder case. However, McGinnis might be able to sway the judgments of the society once his work has been published.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 7:59AM) : Right
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (May 15 2016 1:22PM) : MacDonald is "pulling a card." more

This tells you that McGinnis is close to MacDonald but this brings a closer point to how MacDonald might “pulling a card” on McGinnis trying to make him comfortable.

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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 4:56PM) : Ever obliging more

This is true. By being being so open to McGinniss, MacDonald might simply be trying to get on his good side, and earn credibility through the reporter. Also, there might be some intention to the documents he is offering to McGinniss.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (May 17 2016 2:46PM) : I agree. Also, this works in both Mc Ginniss and Mac Donald's favor because it allows Mac Donald to feed positive information to Mc Ginniss and this allows Mc Ginniss to build a relationship with the subject.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:58AM) : But it doesn't ultimately work for Macdonald
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (May 19 2016 7:28AM) : But it does not stop MacDonald from trying either way.
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (May 16 2016 12:02AM) : McGinnis-MacDonald more

McGinnis is trying to build a relationship with McDonald. By staying on MacDonald’s side, that could help him gain confidential information. MacDonald wants to state his case and give McGinnis give something to talk about in a positive light.

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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 17 2016 4:47PM) : wenting wu more

Exactly, by doing so, both sides will receive possible benefits. Both sides need to use the other to do something good for them.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:59AM) : But both sides may also be damaged
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:59AM) : Yes both sides have agendas
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 19 2016 10:24PM) : Motives for telling all [Edited] more

MacDonald may be so obliging because a sympathetic media is good for his case. McGinniss may have fallen for the bait and become obsessed with MacDonald’s side of the story.

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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (May 20 2016 12:30PM) : Ever-Obliging more

McGinnis has established a close relationship with Macdonald. However, it appears that both parties have manipulative schemes in order to largely benefit only themselves in the bigger picture.

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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (May 20 2016 6:14PM) : McGinnis decided to stay with MacDonald to gain his trust and in the long run, would help him write his article. It's interesting to see how it is two sided and both can either win, both lose, or one with and one lose. But ultimately, both want to succeed
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"The journalistic encounter seems to have the same regressive effect on a subject as the psychoanalytic encounter. The subject becomes a kind of child of the writer, regarding him as a permissive, all-accepting, all-forgiving mother, and expecting that the book will be written by her. Of course, the book is written by the strict, all-noticing, unforgiving father."

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 10 2016 10:10AM) : Explain how this dynamic works in A Private Life of Michael Foot and in The Journalist and the Murderer.
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (May 06 2016 3:20PM) : Molly Deng more

This dynamic is interesting because in both A Private Life of Michael Foot and in The Journalist and the Murderer, there is this assumption that a book written about the subject will automatically be written in a positive light, highlighting the good attributes and diminishing the negative traits. And when the subject learns that that in fact is not true, relationships then tend to suffer.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 07 2016 8:10AM) : Yes, the subject thinks the journalist is is friend and will behave as a supporter.
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Ayannah Woods Ayannah Woods (May 13 2016 11:50AM) : In building this relationship, the subject assumes that the writer will only include positive details as a result of the subject being hospitable. When in actuality the subject is making it easier for the writer to get into the "dirt" of the story.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 7:59AM) : Ironic, isn't it?
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (May 17 2016 3:04PM) : It is very ironic and in several cases it is the writer who mainly benefits from these relationships.
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 19 2016 10:44PM) : The irony of Journalism [Edited] more

It’s a double edged sword because the journalist wants the subject to trust them and remain objective. However, the subject’s goal is simply to look good for the journalist. The subject is almost being used.

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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (May 20 2016 6:26PM) : I agree that there is much irony. Trust and being objective are conflicting with each other. The subject is being used in a sense that trust is wanted to gain a story.
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 10 2016 2:50PM) : Wenting Wu more

Well, relationship plays a critical role on how this dynamic works in both A Private Life of Michael and in the Journalist and the Murderer. The subject assumed that establishing a closer relationship with the writer could help on getting more positive opinion in the writing. But in fact, the job responsibility of a journalist is to provide truthful story regardless how close the relationship is with the subject.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 11 2016 7:08AM) : I'm not sure that in Foots case he was thinking of getting a positive opinion. He just naturally assumed I was on his side
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Ayannah Woods Ayannah Woods (May 13 2016 12:41PM) : I think living with the subject does offer a lot more insight but it also makes the job of the writer more challenging. They have to battle telling the real story and remaining a guest inside their subjects home.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 14 2016 8:01AM) : Yes, there is a dual role that can be maintained only if the reporter sees the values of being both guest and reporter.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (May 15 2016 1:24PM) : Its clear here because the reporter was regarded as almost a "mother" type of figure. He comes off as "nice" and "forgiving" but in truth he is there to get the real story and will only write just that.
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 15 2016 2:39PM) : wenting wu more

I agreed with you. Being nice is the best way to gain trust. As seeking information from the subject, been trusted and assumed as a friend could help finding out more truthful secretes which he won’t tell to other strangers. But as a role of reporters, the final goal is to write the most truthful story.

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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 5:07PM) : Intentions more

Exactly. The niceties and closeness that are common to the journalist and subject relationship are often part of simply getting to what the journalist wants- to build trust that will help expose the truth that will build an accurate story.

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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 17 2016 1:51PM) : Wanting Wu more

Right. He would do whatever he has to do to get the information he wanted. Being friendly is just one of the strategies the journalists used to do.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 18 2016 6:57AM) : Used to?
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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (May 20 2016 12:49PM) : Dynamic more

This dynamic is true in both A Private Life of Michael Foot and in The Journalist and the Murderer because the close bond formed creates the assumption that the writer will build this image of the subject to be seen only in a positive manner. But in reality, the responsibilities of the writer are to provide accurate/truthful accounts of the subject, both good and bad, which certainly surprises the subject.

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Omer Seman Omer Seman (May 20 2016 11:05PM) : Two sides to the story more

It’s sort of like a “good cop/bad cop” routine. You play along with the guise of painting the subject only in a positive image and gradually unearth the truth you were searching for. Devious, but necessary in certain cases.

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"The metaphor of the love affair applies to both sides of the journalist-subject equation, and the journalist is no less susceptible than the subject to its pleasures and excitements"

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 10 2016 10:12AM) : How does the metaphor of the love affair apply to Pylon, A Private Life of Michael Foot, and The Journalist and the Murderer?
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (May 06 2016 3:26PM) : Molly Deng more

The metaphor of a love affair applies to all three books we’ve read because as previously mentioned, the relationship between a journalist and his subject is an intimate one. They spend a great deal amount of time getting to know each other, sharing stories and experiences. In Pylon, the reporter not only becomes attached to the people he’s reporting on, he falls in love with flying as well and in A Private Life of Michael Foot, we see the journalist stay at the subject’s house, sharing close quarters. But it’s also a love affair in the sense that that the journalist, who is completely devoted to his job, subsequently makes the subject his life as well.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 07 2016 8:11AM) : An excellent summary
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (May 11 2016 10:32AM) : Wenting Wu more

Just like a brand new couple, the writer and the subject spend lots of time together to know deeply about each other. I guess the reason why it sayes the subject is more susceptible to the pleasures and excitement is he is the one telling the story. Plus, he isn’t required to know about the journalist as much as the journalist is. As the reading we had, the writer and the subject stayed in the same house and shared stories of each other; experienced how other’s feeling. Therefore, we could metaphor the relationship between the subject and the writer as the love affair.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 12 2016 7:45AM) : Yes
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Ayannah Woods Ayannah Woods (May 13 2016 11:52AM) : I like how you put this Wenting, I never looked at all three stories in such a way, it seems so romantic and lustful now.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (May 15 2016 1:25PM) : Clear. more

The Pylon analogy is clear and apparent. The reporter was in love with the subject, and the he was so subjectified that it created a motherly sense of forgiveness. Meanwhile, the editor was the real father figure in that novel. In Foot, it was the other way around.

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George Ocampo George Ocampo (May 15 2016 5:38PM) : Love Affair more

The metaphor of love affair can apply to those three narratives not only because of the relationship between the journalist and the subject, but also the relationship between the journalist and the biography itself. A journalist is driven by their passion for the artform of truthful, illustrative narrative. Thus, the journalist, in a way, has a love affair with telling the story.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (May 17 2016 3:49PM) : This is an interesting perspective that did not cross my mind. I agree that there is a bond created between the journalist and the biography in the sense that the biography becomes an intimate part of the journalist life.
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 19 2016 10:56PM) : Metaphor of love [Edited] more

I think the common thread among these three is the physical closeness between the journalist and the subject. There is something about spending time in another person’s home or engaging in their activities that can bring two people together. Just like a love affair someone ends up hurt and feeling foolish after it’s over.

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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (May 20 2016 12:42PM) : I agree with you point about a love affair leaving one party more hurt and disheveled than the other in the end.
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Anthony Califano Anthony Califano (May 20 2016 6:28PM) : The metaphor of life applies to all 3 stories as the journalist and their subjects form a bonding relationship to not only create the story but to get to know each other. It is like an affair because they spend so much time together like a couple.
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