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I was just beginning to grasp that Michael’s first loyalty was not to biography, but to friends and to anyone else whom a given biography might hurt.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 25 2016 2:16PM) : How does biography suffer is the first loyalty is to friends?
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 3:04PM) : E.Rosario more

it would suffer because Mr. Foot priority would be of keeping his friends in a good spot. I’m assuming that he would rather keep some particular stuff to him before going on and making any harm to the people close to him.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:25AM) : yes
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 4:41PM) : Molly Deng more

A biography would suffer if the first loyalty is to friends because the truth cannot be told at the cost of upsetting that friendship. It would make for a very boring biography if the story only highlighted the positive aspects of its subjects because of the biography’s loyalty to friends, no one would want to read it.

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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 9:48PM) : I am agree with you that hiding the truth in order to protect the friends will make the biography boring.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:26AM) : So why do some biographers hide the truth?
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 20 2016 5:24PM) : Why some biographers hide the truth [Edited] more

Some biographers hide the truth because they become too friendly with their subjects and end up feeling guilty at the thought of revealing the unspoken truths of this person.

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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 3:10AM) : Treasure Kim more

They might also think that the truth can cause damage to the subject and his/her relationship with “friends and [with] anyone else whom a given biography might hurt.”

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:26AM) : And yet biographers are often criticized for showing negative aspects of their subjects. Why?
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Feb 19 2016 11:31AM) : Thoughts more

You make an excellent point. Certain truths could offset an established friendship. Also, I believe that maintaining loyalty to a friend is more about keeping a reputation, or a self-image a friend has of an individual, because we care about how others perceive ourselves.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:16AM) : Yes, that's part of it, although being loyal to a friend could also mean being disloyal to yourself.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:27PM) : Especially when it comes to a friend, that friend's confidentiality is not to be compromised by someone else. if the person himself wants to divulge on information with the biographer, then that is up to him.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Feb 18 2016 9:44PM) : How does biography suffer more

A biography would suffer if the loyalty is to friends because not everything might stated as the way it is meant to be. Perhaps,to maintain an image friends have, the individual who the biography is about might fabricate events that happened. Fabricated events completely makes the biography useless, because it has no value. Also, if a loyalty is to a friend, the individual might keep certain events that are crucial to the biography. Ultimately, the biography is compromised of the sanctity that makes it a biography, when the loyalty is not to the truth.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:27AM) : Sanctity is a provocative word to use when discussing biography.
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 9:46PM) : Wenting Wu more

Biography will suffer if the first loyalty it to friends because one might try to hide something that is related to his or her friends and that event may have negative effects on the friends’ reputations or statues in the society. And if the subject is not willing to tell the truth or refuse to tell the story, then it may hurt the creditability and authenticity of the biography.

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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 9:47AM) : I agree that a biographer who hides certain aspects of a persons life in order to save their reputation places the validity of the biographer and biography itself in jeopardy.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:28AM) : Watch your use of pronouns--in this case their.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:28AM) : Yes, credibility and how it is established is what the biographer must consider.
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:43PM) : loyalty more

Biography suffers when the priority isn’t to the biography itself, or in other words, to the facts of what happened. If the loyalty is to friends, or to anything else, the biography can become skewed, as information may be hidden or told in a biased way in order to appease the favour of the subject or their friends.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:29AM) : So why is this even an issue. Why do certain biographers keep secrets?
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 3:18AM) : Treasure Kim more

It’s an issue because the point of a biography should be unbiased. Biographers might keep secrets when they feel that the information is not worth revealing and risking the friendship/relationship with the subject.

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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 19 2016 2:11AM) : biography more

A biography is meant to center around the life of one specific individual. That individual has to be portrayed truthfully, whether they will come across as being good or bad. But the truth can be jeopardized if other people, Foot’s friends in this situation, do not want certain aspects of his life which also involve them, to fall into the hands of the public.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:29AM) : What do these friends of Foot fear?
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 3:15AM) : Treasure Kim more

They fear what Foot probably fears as well: humility, shame, people disliking him because of the negative aspects that are revealed about him, etc. They might also simply fear publicity.

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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 9:40AM) : Loyalty more

A biography suffers if the first loyalty is to friends because certain sincerities about the subject would be hidden — mostly in order to preserve the friendship but also the character of the individual. The biography would become distorted by concealing negative aspects, creating this perfect persona of the subject.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:30AM) : Is there any case to be made for withholding part of the truth?
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Ayannah Woods Ayannah Woods (Feb 19 2016 11:31AM) : The truth could be wittheld so that the friends of the autobiography wouldn't feel that their privacy was being invaded by the biographer. The biography should focus mainly on the autobiographer and memories of friends and such should be kept to a minimum
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:17AM) : What should be kept to a minimum?
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 20 2016 5:32PM) : In response to Professor Rollyson Q about minimum [Edited] more

What should be kept to a minimum is the business of others. This biography is set around one person, therefore other people’s stories should not be included. However, there’s a double side to this, for if the biographer’s subject is in fact a significant part of someone else’s story then it becomes just as much their story as the other person. The biographer then has the right to publish it as part of the story’s truth.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 10:17AM) : The biography will suffer because Michael's biggest concern is to remain loyal to his friends by withholding information which should be included in his biography.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:30AM) : It should be included? Why?
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 3:23AM) : Treasure Kim more

It doesn’t have to be included, but if it is, then the biography would be more authentic and have more meaning.

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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:23PM) : This goes back to every characteristic that Mr. Foot was playing at: he wants to keep himself and others in a good light. this is juxtaposed near the biographer who wants the cold truth.
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 25 2016 11:22PM) : Biography suffer more

Mr.Foot’s refusal to reveal information about his friends will be detrimental. The truth will be hidden, while he will likely find himself limited in terms of content. Repetitiveness could become a major issue that will leave readers annoyed.

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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 23 2016 5:32PM) : Michael Foot is concerning about how his friends are going to see his biography because after his biography he do not want to caused any emotional damage to someone he cares about.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 24 2016 7:53AM) : Right. Be sure to look over your language. There are several mistakes in your reply.
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 01 2016 9:31AM) : Rand more

A biography would suffer if its first loyalty to friends because the end product would be sugar coated, unrealistic and more like a compliment to the subject than a story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 02 2016 8:09AM) : But without friends, what is left for the biographer?
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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 04 2016 10:22AM) : Rand more

Without friends, the biographer has no story.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 05 2016 6:33AM) : It depends what you mean by friends.
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (May 06 2016 10:13PM) : Thoughts more

I think there will still be a story for the biographer. The angle of the biography will surely change. For example, the biographer can take a view the subject has and integrate it into the shaping of the subject’s life.

What’s left for the biographer is to look for other significant attributes about the subject and write about it.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 07 2016 8:18AM) : Yes
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 12 2016 4:57PM) : Safiya Sergeant more

A biography suffers when the first loyalty is to friends. Because if you’re writing about someone who’s alive, you have to get to know them. You must interview them, actually get an understanding of them. Which turns your target into a friend. The biography starts to suffer, when your loyalty shifts from the story, to keeping the target happy. Making sure only what they want out in the world is written.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 13 2016 8:02AM) : Correct
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 20 2016 12:37PM) : Suffer more

It suffers because Foot would instinctively want to protect those close to him. This would likely make him censor parts of his own life in an attempt to not show those he cares about in a negative light.

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Omer Seman Omer Seman (May 20 2016 6:58PM) : Friends more

Friends can ask you to hide their side of the narrative or vice versa.

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The next day, Michael introduced a new subject: “One of the reasons I’ve never been in favour of writing autobiography is because you can’t tell the truth.” I agreed. “All the great autobiographers have been charlatans,” Michael said, warming to his topic."

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 25 2016 2:17PM) : What can't autobiographers tell the truth?
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 16 2016 11:36PM) : Molly Deng more

I think that autobiographers can’t tell the truth because one, they are subjective and two, their memory may not be the best source. Because our memories of things and events change, there would be no way to know if what is written is real or made up, unlike a biographer who can conduct interviews and cross-check facts.

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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 3:08PM) : E.Rosario more

I totally agree with this, but I also believe that if someone its writing their own story they might want to highlight or prioritize their best moments of their life, and maybe, leaving behind some information that could be important for someone else

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:33AM) : Something is always left out of a story, autobiography or biography.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:31AM) : Of course an autobiographer could also fact check.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:32AM) : Autobiographers can fact check memories if they choose, although some memories may not be susceptible to fact checking.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:34AM) : An autobiographer could conduct interviews with his family, friends, and so on.
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Wenting Wu Wenting Wu (Feb 18 2016 9:57PM) : Wenting Wu more

I think there are three reasons that causing autobiographers can’t tell the truth. One is that one might unable to be honest to himself if the event he wrote is negative to his statue on the society. Second reason will the event is not only related to himself or herself but also others who don’t want to disclose themselves, such as the first question pointed out. The third reason is even the writer is telling the truth but the reader may doubt about the authenticity of the story and may think the writer is lying.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:32AM) : Why would the reader distrust the autobiographer? What if the autobiographer is, say, the Pope?
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 20 2016 5:45PM) : In response to Professor Rollyson - Reader Distrust [Edited] more

I think the reader would distrust the autobiographer based on that person’s outside reputation. So, if the autobiographer were the current Pope, most people believe he is a good man therefore if he were to write good things about himself, then the reader would probably not question it. However, if the person was Jordan Belfort for example, well then, that one would be a hard sell if he were to write good things about himself. Its all based on the reputation and perspective the outside world has on that specific person.

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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Feb 18 2016 10:07PM) : reasons more

Autobiographers cannot tell the truth because individuals are not always true to their selves. I believe that an autobiographer might no be able to tell because that individual might not want to harm reputation or lose any credibility one may have earned. Furthermore, subconscious reasons might prevent the autobiographer from telling the whole truth. For instance, one’s mind might have blurred out traumatizing events. Lastly, an autobiographer may be writing immortalize one’s self. If this is the motive, that individual might not want to have their shortcomings etched to their image, so he/she might lie about their life.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:34AM) : Yes, there may be ways the autobiographer cannot understand himself or herself or see himself or herself as others do.
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:45PM) : autobiographers - truth more

A person can’t have an unbiased stance on their own life. They will take their own side, or the side of their friends and family, always resulting in a skewed perspective of a story rather than an objective one.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:37AM) : Some autobiographers are quite self critical of themselves, their friends, and their families.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:42PM) : Critical does not mean unbiased. Critical can be done on ones self, but in order to truly fight a bias, you have to be looking at it from the outside.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 23 2016 7:48AM) : So it is not possible for a writer to overcome or correct his own bias? What happens when a writer changes his mind? Isn't that an ability to correct oneself and to check bias?
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 20 2016 5:54PM) : It is possible for a writer to overcome and correct their own bias more

I agree with the Professor. We are each our own harshest critics. Now, some people particularly have the courage to own up to their faults and see where they led themselves wrong. However, this is a rare trait in people therefore it can be sometimes hard to believe that someone can change stances, even about themselves.

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Lynette Grodskiy Lynette Grodskiy (Feb 19 2016 2:14AM) : truth more

Autobiographers write about themselves, and they believe that there is too much at stake: friends, family, and a reputation. They fall victims to fear’s trap by writing only the details that make them look better to the reader. It is difficult to remain unbiased, when discussing one’s own life.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:35AM) : This may be true in some cases, but you are making some sweeping generalizations. Plenty of autobiographies and memoirs deal with the writer's faults.
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Jason Zawadzki Jason Zawadzki (Feb 19 2016 10:02AM) : Truth more

Autobiographers cannot tell the truth because sometimes self-opinions become influenced in fear of losing respect and prestige among other people. They pick and choose whatever glorifies their own image the most, even if it isn’t completely truthful.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:36AM) : Cannot tell the truth is pretty absolute. How can you make such a statement. How many autobiographies have you read. In other words, what is your basis for judgment?
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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 10:21AM) : Personally, I believe its difficult for autobiographers to tell the truth because then they would have to include personal information of their loved ones which might upset and anger their loved ones.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:37AM) : Careful about redundant expressions like Personally, I believe.
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Mr. Itamar Hematian Mr. Itamar Hematian (Feb 22 2016 1:31PM) : Innately, autbiographers are biased no matter what. This does not mean an autobiographer cannot be critical of himself, it simply means that some things that he thinks about himself are simply unchangeable but might not be wholly factual.
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 25 2016 11:05PM) : Autobiographers more

When autobiographers write about their life, they usually feel some type of pressure to make an impression. They need something to gravitate readers involved becoming invested in their life. This can lead to stories becoming convoluted and fabricated. Controversy usually sells, which makes over dramatizing stories beneficial.

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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 23 2016 5:40PM) : answer more

Because most of the time an autobiographer will be writing a good stuff of himself and avoid any negative thing. that is why is hard to be an autobiographer because you must be brave to accept everything the way it was considering the pros and cons of the life lived.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Mar 24 2016 7:54AM) : It is difficult to see yourself as other see you.
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Safiya Sergeant Safiya Sergeant (May 12 2016 5:12PM) : Safiya Sergeant more

Autobiographers can’t tell the truth, because we always see ourselves in the best light. Remember situations with our own perspective whose memory is corrupted with “how I remember it”.

In any situation there is his story, her story and the truth. Autobiographers are frauds? I can agree with this somewhat, because in order to be writing a book about yourself, you must be held in high esteem in your field. You must have self confidence, and you must also want people to see you better than you actually are.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 13 2016 8:03AM) : What you say is not true. I can give your a reading list of autobiogaphies that show the subject in a bad light.
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 20 2016 12:37PM) : Autobiographers more

Autobiographers can’t tell the truth because of their own viewpoint. I think people tend to look back on mostly the positives aspects or mostly the negative aspects of their lives. As such, they lose the ability to be objective about what was going on in that time in their lives.

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Omer Seman Omer Seman (May 20 2016 6:53PM) : The truth more

Autobiographers struggle to balance of pride and humility. If they skew too far to either side, the audience will begin to question their authenticity. Even if one extreme is the truth, one might tweak the story to find the right balance that is palatable.

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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 3:32AM) : Treasure Kim more

Autobiographers can’t tell the truth because the truth may be too harsh and personal for them to reveal. They may leave out certain factors that are hurtful and embarrassing. They can leave out the truth all-together or alter it.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Jan 25 2016 2:18PM) : How might biography and the journalist's literary imagination serve as an antidote to autobiography?
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Elvis Rosario Mendez Elvis Rosario Mendez (Feb 18 2016 3:11PM) : E.Rosario more

A journalist’s literary imagination could play around with the facts in a more objective way but also would use words and phrases that could minimize the power of an idea or matter.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 10:38AM) : I'm not sure what "a more objective way" means.
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Molly Deng Molly Deng (Feb 18 2016 4:31PM) : Molly Deng more

I think biography and the journalist’s literary imagination can serve as an antidote to an autobiography because it remedies some of the problems with autobiographies (like an autobiographer’s inability to tell the truth). For instance, autobiographies tend to be biased or omit facts, and biographies can address that problem by presenting different sides of the story in a more objective way and fact checking the stories. A journalist’s literary imagination presents that story in an appealing way that is engaging and interesting to read.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 10:29AM) : I agree, I truly believe that autobiographers tend to omit the truth in their writing because they fear disclosing certain information.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 20 2016 8:18AM) : But how many autobiographies have you read? What is your basis of judgment?
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (Feb 18 2016 10:55PM) : Antidotes more

Biography and literary imagination might serve as the antidote to autobiography in many ways.

One way that biography counteracts is by adding an unbiased facilitator that can help the individual tell the true story. The biographer can even help the subject recollect past events and illustrate in a manner that provides justice for the subject. Also, any biases an autobiography may have can be mitigated.

The journalist’s literary imagination can also counter autobiography in terms of how the journalist writes. The use of the journalist’s language will play a strong part in the antidote. in addition, literary imagination allows the reader to understand a subject in a more profound manner and leave a more thought evoking presence.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 12:10PM) : Why would you say the biographer is unbiased?
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Mr. Saveen Wijebandara Mr. Saveen Wijebandara (May 06 2016 9:44PM) : Response more

There is certainly the possibility of the biographer being biased.

However, if the biographer is doing the his/her job with the proper integrity and not influenced by personal motives, then the biographer can be unbiased.

Nonetheless, there could be indirect or unintentional influences given off by the biographer, that will make the “antidote” not as effective

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (May 07 2016 8:16AM) : Right
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Annalee Manaloto Annalee Manaloto (Feb 18 2016 11:49PM) : antidote more

Biography coupled with journalist’s literary imagination can describe a person’s life as colourfully as it was lived. No one’s life is as drab as facts in bullet point form. Biography and literary imagination solves the issue by losing the personal bias an autobiography would have, but keeping the energy and soul of an autobiography.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 12:11PM) : And yet many autobiographies are more lively than biographies. Why?
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Erica Likht Erica Likht (May 20 2016 7:22PM) : Autobiographies vs. Biographies more

I think autobiographies are livelier than biographies because when its first person point of view, it feels as if the reader has physically stepped into the subject’s shoes versus a third person point of view where the reader is being told a story about someone by someone else. Also, if the autobiographer is being honest with him/herself it could make for a really interesting read.

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student Venetia Persaud student Venetia Persaud (Feb 19 2016 10:27AM) : I would say that biography serves as an antidote to autobiography because then the subject isn't involved in the writing process of his life.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Feb 19 2016 12:11PM) : Could autobiography also be the antidote to biography?
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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 4:16AM) : Treasure Kim more

I think an autobiography could also be an antidote. In this particular case of Michael Foot and the dilemma of revealing negative aspects of his biography, an autobiography gives the writer more power on deciding how much and which information is revealed about him/herself

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Treasure Kim Treasure Kim (May 21 2016 4:21AM) : It also gives the autobiographer authority and freedom of whether or not to give "loyalty to friends"
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Allen Strk Allen Strk (Feb 25 2016 11:15PM) : Antidotes more

A journalist’s literary imagination can serve as an antidote by a creative and legitimized combination. Biographies will present more facts that allows people to be more educated compared to an autobiography. These facts can be presented in a appealing way through quotes and statistics.

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Student Thonny Vargas Student Thonny Vargas (Mar 23 2016 5:47PM) : Because the journalist who will make the biography, will tell the facts on the basis after a deep investigation
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Michael Andersen Michael Andersen (May 20 2016 12:38PM) : Journalist more

Biography can serve as an antidote to autobiography because the journalist, in theory, has a more objective viewpoint. The journalist can take multiple accounts of someone’s life and try to mesh together the “realist” version of that person and their story.

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Student Rand Shannak Student Rand Shannak (Apr 01 2016 9:39AM) : Rand Shannak more

Autobiographers will always sugarcoat their life story to make them stand out as a much better and more accomplished person than they really are. Humans have the tendency to be over confident of themselves. Also, nobody willingly opens up about the realities and truths of every detail of their lives, especially if it will put them in a bad light. It’s easy for someone else to reveal those truths because it does not harm their persona, but everyone wants to display themselves in the best way possible, even in the worst situations.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Apr 02 2016 8:11AM) : How many autobiographies have your read? Not all autobiographies sugar coat. Read St. Augustine.
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