NowComment
2-Pane Combined
Comments:
Full Summaries Sorted

Pool 1


0 General Document comments
0 Sentence and Paragraph comments
0 Image and Video comments


If book reviewing in America has declined, it is hard to say from what glorious pinnacle it has descended.

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 1 0
profile_photo
Aug 8
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 9:39AM) : Why is it hard to say?
profile_photo
Sep 21
Imani McClure Imani McClure (Sep 21 2016 4:06PM) : If you make the statement "book reviewing in America has declined" then you have to be able to decipher what was the high point of book reviewing. You also have to note the rise of book reviewing.
profile_photo
Sep 22
Braden Carter Braden Carter (Sep 22 2016 7:47PM) : In reply to Imani McClure more

I agree with the central idea that it is difficult to understand a distinction between a “rise” or “decline” in book reviewing. Having opinions and looking at something as either a good piece of work or a poor piece of work is something that has been in society forever. Distinguishing good from bad has been apart of society and will continue to be. So like Pool says “From what glorious pinnacle it has descended” highlights this idea. The decline of newspapers could be a better idea in terms of describing a peak and descent.

profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:23AM) : Even with the decline of newspapers, however, reviewing has grown in other media such as blogs, although the quality of the reviewing is still an issue.
profile_photo
Dec 8
Dylan Diaz Dylan Diaz (Dec 08 2016 8:55PM) : Reply more

I believe Pool was being sarcastic, he was suggesting that there was never a pinnacle.

profile_photo
Dec 9
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 09 2016 7:14AM) : Pool is a woman. Pay attention.
profile_photo
Dec 9
Lena Inglis Lena Inglis (Dec 09 2016 12:28PM) : I agree, sarcastic indeed. That statement was filled with irony, yet it has declined over time.
profile_photo
Dec 10
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 10 2016 7:13AM) : What has declined?
profile_photo
Dec 16
Kenny Yu Kenny Yu (Dec 16 2016 12:40PM) : Book Reviewing has declined.
profile_photo
Sep 22
Alexander Rothenberg Alexander Rothenberg (Sep 22 2016 6:49PM) : The statement is hard to stay, for the reason that, there is no discernable point in time when book reviewing was thought as useful. Pool states that eversince it's birth, book reviewing has been lamented. Pool gives numerous examples starting from 1800. [Edited]
profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:24AM) : stay?
profile_photo
Sep 23
student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 23 2016 7:38AM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson more

The Statement " from what a glorious pinnacle it has descended" means that book reviewing was once at the top. Now it has declined because of technology and its now hard to picture it when it was on top.

profile_photo
Sep 24
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 24 2016 7:15AM) : You misunderstand the statement,which implies there has been no such pinnacle.
profile_photo
Sep 23
Ariel Lerner Ariel Lerner (Sep 23 2016 9:38AM) : Pool is musing that book reviewing was never such an esteemed tradition to begin with. "Glorious pinnacle" is used in a humorous way.
profile_photo
Sep 24
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 24 2016 7:16AM) : You are right. There never was a pinnacle.
profile_photo
Sep 25
Student Marco Tacuri Student Marco Tacuri (Sep 25 2016 8:45PM) : According to pool, book reviewing has always being criticized since 1800. It could not necessarily mean that the book reviewing has declined over the years, but the amount of criticism to the reviewers, perhaps?
profile_photo
Sep 30
T.Racks Tatyana Racks T.Racks Tatyana Racks (Sep 30 2016 7:35AM) : Response to Carl Rollyson more

Book reviewing as a whole isn’t as popular as it once was. It may be hard to pick an angle as to what really influenced this decline simply because in this day and age not many people are reading anymore. there are a lot of people who’d rather read reviews made by other people make and make their own assumptions off someone else’s experience, rather than to read the book and make their own connections. along with the overdrawn idea of “ill just wait for the movie”. once people see that the book is actually a success 9/10 they already know it’ll be picked up for placement on the big screen. I totally agree with the idea that the media and the mass overgrowth in technology over time has made this generation entirely too lazy, no one wants to read anymore, and if they do its a rather small population of book lovers that continues to dwindle.

profile_photo
Oct 2
Andrew White Andrew White (Oct 02 2016 5:51PM) : The statement is difficult to say because there is no apparent time when book reviewing was regarded as beneficial. Pool states that since the inception of book reviewing, it has been grieved. Pool gives many examples dating from 1800
profile_photo
Oct 3
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 03 2016 7:50AM) : grieved?Not the best choice of words.
profile_photo
Nov 20
Nora McCarten Nora McCarten (Nov 20 2016 4:53PM) : literature decline perhaps? more

It is hard to say because maybe there was no glorious pinnacle- book reviewing is a very methodic art, and one that has been a standard of American culture for decades. I think the idea that it has declined speaks more to the quality of American literature being put out today.

profile_photo
Nov 21
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Nov 21 2016 6:58AM) : Except that going back more than a hundred years there have always been writers who said book reviewing was declining.
profile_photo
Dec 15
Brittany Martinez Brittany Martinez (Dec 15 2016 6:50PM) : The real question here is what was book reviewing's highest point? It is "hard to say" because we don't know what the "glorious pinnacle" is.
profile_photo
Aug 8
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 9:39AM) : What is cultural guidance and how does it differ from consumer advice? [Edited]
profile_photo
Sep 22
Imani McClure Imani McClure (Sep 22 2016 12:38PM) : Cultural Guidance more

“Cultural guidance” in this context implies that the reviewer is filtering through what are works of culture or a reflection of the times. The consumer is looking for relevancy and importance. Consumer advice deals with what you should or should not buy or how you should use something to reap the best possible benefits.

profile_photo
Sep 22
Alex Pitre Alex Pitre (Sep 22 2016 8:30PM) : guidance vs advice more

Consumer advice helps us decide where to spend our monetary capital and cultural guidance shows us what we are valuing on an ideological, moral, entertain level. Consumer advice helps place the intrinsic value on the book while cultural guidance determines the extrinsic value.

profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:25AM) : Intrinsic value should be a matter of advice to the consumer?
profile_photo
Sep 22
Braden Carter Braden Carter (Sep 22 2016 10:29PM) : I think this idea of cultural guidance and consumer advice plays at the idea of our wants and needs. Cultural guidance will show one what is "in" or what is relevant in society and will entertain them. This is a want. more

Consumer advice focuses more on giving factual evidence showing consumers why they should buy it and how it will benefit them. This is a need.

profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:26AM) : Intrinsic value may have nothing to do with consumer advice or cultural guidance.
profile_photo
Sep 23
student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 23 2016 7:41AM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson more

Consumer advice is pointers on wheat we should or should not buy u=in the moment. Culture guidance is when ant shift the direction of the consumers purchase for long term.

profile_photo
Sep 24
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 24 2016 7:17AM) : wheat?
profile_photo
Oct 2
Andrew White Andrew White (Oct 02 2016 6:16PM) : “Cultural guidance” implies that the reviewer is sifting through the culture, which is a reflection their present. Consumer advice tells you what you should or should not buy. This advice is a matter of fundamental value to the consumer
profile_photo
Dec 15
Brittany Martinez Brittany Martinez (Dec 15 2016 6:57PM) : Cultural guidance is the influence of what is going on in the world around you at the time. This differs from consumer advice because consumer advice helps us make decisions based on what we need over what we want. more

Our cultural identities are constantly changing with the times and our wants are based on those cultural changes.

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 1, Sentence 1 0
No sentence-level conversations. Start one.

. . . essentially we want consumer advice and cultural guidance.

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 2 0
No paragraph-level conversations. Start one.
New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 2, Sentence 1 0
No sentence-level conversations. Start one.

How can I know what the book says when reviewers don't bother to attribute the information they're relating . . .

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 3 0
profile_photo
Aug 8
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 9:40AM) : What does attribute mean in this sentence?
profile_photo
Sep 22
Imani McClure Imani McClure (Sep 22 2016 12:46PM) : To relate the statements they make back to direct examples or text. The book's central meaning should be consistent throughout different reviewing. [Edited]
profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:27AM) : different reviewing?
profile_photo
Dec 8
Dylan Diaz Dylan Diaz (Dec 08 2016 8:58PM) : Reply more

I believe Pool is also suggesting that reviewers based their reviews more so on opinions rather than, like you said, “direct examples or text.”

profile_photo
Sep 25
Student Marco Tacuri Student Marco Tacuri (Sep 25 2016 9:13PM) : Means that the reviewers don't say much about the main elements/themes of the book, therefore whoever is reading the review don't have much information to decide whether it's worth getting it or not.
profile_photo
Dec 14
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Dec 14 2016 12:08PM) : Attribution refers to quotes/citations/examples. Any reviewer can claim that a book is excellent, but these claims must be supported with real examples from the book, or else audiences won't truly know how the book communicates its content.
profile_photo
Dec 15
Brittany Martinez Brittany Martinez (Dec 15 2016 11:25PM) : It means they're not referencing where the information is coming from. They're not providing the context which makes it hard to fully comprehend/decipher it.
New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 3, Sentence 1 0
No sentence-level conversations. Start one.

. . . many reviewers practice the Rorshach method of criticism, and find what they're looking for.

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 4 0
profile_photo
Aug 8
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 9:40AM) : What is the Rorshach method of criticism?
profile_photo
Sep 22
Alex Pitre Alex Pitre (Sep 22 2016 8:38PM) : Rorschach method more

The Rorschach method of criticism could work in two ways: the reviewer only passes over the book and gets a general impression or the reviewer sees a general theme and then finds only the relevant items to support their initial impression.

profile_photo
Sep 22
Braden Carter Braden Carter (Sep 22 2016 10:25PM) : In reply to Alex Pitre more

Yes essentially that is the Rorschach method of criticism where the reviewer finds what catches their attention and uses that in the review. They do not capture the full essence of the book or essay. The only way to distinguish whether a description of work is good is to to read many reviews on a book to get more perspectives.

profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:29AM) : Even reading many reviews of a book may not give you an accurate view of the book. Some books are misunderstood when they first appear.
profile_photo
Oct 11
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Oct 11 2016 4:39PM) : The "Rorschach method of criticism" explains the various arrays of reviews available for individual titles. Because they are different people, different reviewers see different things in the books they review.
profile_photo
Dec 16
John Martakis John Martakis (Dec 16 2016 6:11AM) : Yes, every reviewer will find something that catches their eye. more

I’m reminded of a review I recently read where one reviewer couldn’t get over the fact that the item was now made in China when it wasn’t in the past. This one fact seemed to distract them from giving a fair, thorough review, while most other reviewers couldn’t be bothered to mention it.

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 4, Sentence 1 0
No sentence-level conversations. Start one.

I need an assessment

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 5 0
profile_photo
Aug 8
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 9:41AM) : What is involved in making an assessment?
profile_photo
Sep 22
Jeongwoo Nahm Jeongwoo Nahm (Sep 22 2016 11:53PM) : In essence, an assessment is a collection of results and facts that point towards a specific conclusion, whether good or bad. more

Assessments involve pooling together reliable information as a process of evaluating and forming a conclusion. It requires extensive research and at times, trials. In terms of a review, it would require that the subject matter be studied inside-out in order to bring to light every intricacy of the matter being reviewed.

profile_photo
Sep 23
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Sep 23 2016 6:30AM) : inside-out?
profile_photo
Sep 25
Jeongwoo Nahm Jeongwoo Nahm (Sep 25 2016 8:35PM) : Inside-out as in knowing every little detail about the subject.
profile_photo
Sep 23
student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 23 2016 7:58AM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson [Edited] more

An assessment by definition is the evaluation or estimation of the quality or ability of someone or something.

profile_photo
Oct 11
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Oct 11 2016 4:43PM) : When reading book reviews, consumers expect to find thorough explorations of books. Readers not only anticipate summaries, but corresponding opinions, too.
profile_photo
Nov 20
Nora McCarten Nora McCarten (Nov 20 2016 5:07PM) : Agreed. A true, thorough assessment provides both fact and opinion- after all, if potential book readers only wanted fact, they would stick to just reading the book summary and not care to read the individual thoughts of a reviewer.
profile_photo
Dec 16
Kenny Yu Kenny Yu (Dec 16 2016 12:43PM) : Making an assessment requires knowledge of the subject or prior experience to compare to. Assessments need a point of reference to be more effective.
New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 5, Sentence 1 0
No sentence-level conversations. Start one.

. . . a good review is more than a verdict

New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 6 0
profile_photo
Aug 8
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 9:42AM) : What more is needed?
profile_photo
Sep 22
Braden Carter Braden Carter (Sep 22 2016 10:03PM) : An interesting aspect that Pool looks at is that reviews are more than just a verdict but more so a lasting argument that has influential insight and observations. She talks about that overtime a review tends to be "wrong in its judgement may be valuable more

for those insights and observations, while a review which proves to be “right” in its verdict can be right for foolish reasons" (Pool 11). I think this idea is that reviews can give insight into how society thinks in a given time period.

profile_photo
Sep 22
Jeongwoo Nahm Jeongwoo Nahm (Sep 22 2016 11:37PM) : By stating that a good review is more than a verdict, Pool states that reviews can not simply come to a conclusion. The reviewer must give a thorough and detailed analysis of how and why they came to the conclusion that they did.
profile_photo
Sep 23
student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 23 2016 8:04AM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson more

If a " good review is more than a verdict" in my opinion I feel as if there not much needed. There can be more opinions or reviews written to help or disclaim the verdict.

profile_photo
Sep 23
Ariel Lerner Ariel Lerner (Sep 23 2016 9:44AM) : A good review cannot just indicate whether the book is "good" or "bad." An in-depth analysis and interpretation of the text is required.
profile_photo
Dec 8
Dylan Diaz Dylan Diaz (Dec 08 2016 9:03PM) : Yes. I agree.
profile_photo
Sep 30
Jennifer Ortega Jennifer Ortega (Sep 30 2016 12:09PM) : " a good review is more than a verdict" ... Means it would require an in depth analysis of context and examples. The level of expertise strengthens the argument of the verdict.
profile_photo
Nov 20
Nora McCarten Nora McCarten (Nov 20 2016 5:05PM) : book experience more

Aside from the reviewer’s own personal verdict, a good review should also leave the reader with a sense of the reading experience of the book (is it a joyful experience, thoughtful experience, melancholy experience, etc.) Part of a good review is outlining what the reader can expect in terms of mood and tone.

profile_photo
Dec 8
Dylan Diaz Dylan Diaz (Dec 08 2016 9:02PM) : A simple "read" or "do not read" at the end of a review will not suffice. I believe Pool is suggesting that the analysis is more important than the conclusion in a review.
profile_photo
Dec 12
Alexander Rothenberg Alexander Rothenberg (Dec 12 2016 7:30PM) : A verdict just establishes the reviewer's opinion. However, evidence of the opinion needs to be present, along with feedback on what the author could have done better.
profile_photo
Dec 14
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Dec 14 2016 12:23AM) : Because the book pages aren't the place for third-grade book reports more

Like any other piece of writing, a book review requires some semblance of a supportable thesis. I am suddenly reminded of all those times in elementary school that my classes were assigned book reports. My childhood friends would try to recommend to our peers the books that they chose to review. Even then, I was incredulous that so many of my classmates felt that it was sufficient to say “read it because it is good and funny.”

An 8-year-old can pass a verdict, but you won’t see many of his opinions published in the book pages.

profile_photo
Dec 14
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 14 2016 7:47AM) : Occasionally children have been asked to review childrens' books.
profile_photo
Dec 16
Kenny Yu Kenny Yu (Dec 16 2016 12:44PM) : However, we put it in different context and we don't fully accept the 8 year old's review as a professional and good review.
profile_photo
Dec 15
John Martakis John Martakis (Dec 15 2016 1:35AM) : Bad reviews can have verdicts, too. more

What separates good and bad reviews is how the author arrives to their verdict. Did the author thoroughly test and learn the material they are reviewing, or are they ignorant to certain features or facts? Does the review contain misinformation or an unreasonable amount of bias? Is it made clear who the intended audience is for the item being reviewed? These are important questions to ask regarding the content of the review. Stylistically, a good review is well-written, concise, and engaging.

Anybody can say something is good or bad, it’s how they validate their opinion that matters.

profile_photo
Dec 15
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 15 2016 7:12AM) : Good questions but watch those prepositions: arrives at, ignorant of
profile_photo
Sep 23
jiaqi xiong jiaqi xiong (Sep 23 2016 11:07PM) : a good review should gives the readers a concise summary of the content, to explain what is going on in this work, and gives reviewers' reaction to the work,not only a verdict [Edited]
New Thinking Partner Conversation New Conversation
Paragraph 6, Sentence 1 0
No sentence-level conversations. Start one.

DMU Timestamp: August 05, 2016 15:53

General Document Comments 0
New Thinking Partner Conversation Start a new Document-level conversation

Image
0 comments, 0 areas
add area
add comment
change display
Video
add comment

Quickstart: Commenting and Sharing

How to Comment
  • Click icons on the left to see existing comments.
  • Desktop/Laptop: double-click any text, highlight a section of an image, or add a comment while a video is playing to start a new conversation.
    Tablet/Phone: single click then click on the "Start One" link (look right or below).
  • Click "Reply" on a comment to join the conversation.
How to Share Documents
  1. "Upload" a new document.
  2. "Invite" others to it.

Logging in, please wait... Blue_on_grey_spinner