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Should the book page educate taste or cater to it?

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 3:48PM) : What is Pool's answer?
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Alexander Rothenberg Alexander Rothenberg (Sep 30 2016 4:11AM) : ... more

Pool’s answer addresses that, the book page, if part of a larger publication, will review based on the publications views. So in that case, whatever the audience of that publication is, will be reviewed. Which could be poorly written books of mass appeal or niche interest books.

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Oct 2
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 02 2016 3:53PM) : The answer is a little garbled, especially the second sentence.
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Dec 13
Alexander Rothenberg Alexander Rothenberg (Dec 13 2016 1:37AM) : Audiences of the publication house tend to determine what books will be reviewed. These books could either be garbage or masterpieces.
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Dec 13
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 13 2016 1:25PM) : I don't understand the first sentence. Editors assign books. What do audiences have to do with it?
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Dec 14
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Dec 14 2016 6:09AM) : Publishing houses more

It’s true that publishers would not be able to exist without the support of their customers (audiences). However, I don’t think that the audiences themselves are directly involved with the books that show up in book review pages. (At least that isn’t how I interpreted Pool’s opinion on the matter.)

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Imani McClure Imani McClure (Sep 30 2016 2:35PM) : Curating Book Page more

The response from Pool is that the publication curates the book page according to the audience. These books aren’t necessarily the most well written but one’s that they feel reflect the reader’s interest.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 02 2016 3:54PM) : you need to be careful with pronouns.
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student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 30 2016 3:12PM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson more

Pool is basically saying should my book be written on material that people want to read or should I inspire them on something new.

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Oct 2
Student Marco Tacuri Student Marco Tacuri (Oct 02 2016 4:29AM) : According to Pool, every editor aims to a particular audience, therefore, the quality or the theme of the book doesn't really matter as long as the book fits their criterion and reach to the crowd they're aiming for.
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Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Dec 14 2016 6:04AM) : Theme more

Yes, I agree; as it is now, the book page caters to the tastes of the individual audience of its newspaper. However, preferred themes can often be distinct to certain audiences, so I think that in many cases, a book’s theme would actually matter, though I do concur with the overall gist of your comment.

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Oct 3
Andrew White Andrew White (Oct 03 2016 2:32AM) : Pool’s response pertains to the book page. It will be reviewed centered around the publications observations. So whoever the audience of that publication is, it will be reviewed.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 03 2016 1:42PM) : The last sentence makes no sense. The audience is not reviewed,but that is what your it refers to.
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Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Oct 11 2016 10:31PM) : Pool indicates that in an ideal situation, she would prefer the former, but acknowledges the individual audiences of the book page from every newspaper.
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Kenny Yu Kenny Yu (Dec 16 2016 6:46PM) : Pool believes it should cater to taste, because every review is public information and reviewers have the same access to the information.
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Review editors . . . are very much aware of publishing houses.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 3:48PM) : What does aware mean in this sentence? [Edited]
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Braden Carter Braden Carter (Sep 30 2016 5:28AM) : Review editors being "aware" of publishing houses means that they understand how to place publications into the proper categories and what kind of material they tend to publish.
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student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 30 2016 3:10PM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson more

In my opinion the word aware refers to the editors being familiar with the publishing houses

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Sep 30
Imani McClure Imani McClure (Sep 30 2016 3:24PM) : Aware more

They review novels with the publishing houses in mind.

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Oct 2
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 02 2016 3:55PM) : Not just novels.
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Jennifer Ortega Jennifer Ortega (Sep 30 2016 6:17PM) : I think the word "aware" in this sentence means knowledgeable of publishing houses
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Student Marco Tacuri Student Marco Tacuri (Oct 02 2016 4:50AM) : Being aware means that review editors know well the publishing house inside and out, so they can "identify" with them so the review editors know what type of books the publishing house want to publish.
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Andrew White Andrew White (Oct 03 2016 2:37AM) : Review editors having an "awareness" of publications means that they comprehend how to categorize publications into the correct categories and understand types of material they often publish.
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Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Oct 11 2016 10:15PM) : Within this context, "aware" connotes that review editors understand the needs, expectations, and practices of publishing houses.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 12 2016 12:59PM) : Actually, it means a lot more than that. Editors don't care that much about needs and expections or practices. They have quite other concerns.
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Nora McCarten Nora McCarten (Nov 20 2016 11:19PM) : I think the use of the word aware speaks to reviewer's relationship with publishing houses. Their awareness could mean their ability to understand the DNA of each publisher and how that might affect the authors and books they support.
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Nov 21
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Nov 21 2016 1:01PM) : Some publishers are respected more than others, and that is not always a good thing, since the book is given more credit because of who publishes it, and another book is given less attention because the publisher is not well known or highly respected.
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Dec 14
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Dec 14 2016 5:45AM) : Pool discusses this problem extensively in the beginning chapters of the book. It's very unfortunate that the work of an extremely gifted writer will often be overshadowed by that of an untalented one simply because the latter published with Knopf.
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Dylan Diaz Dylan Diaz (Dec 09 2016 3:10AM) : Review editors are conscious of publishing houses.
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Dec 9
Lena Inglis Lena Inglis (Dec 09 2016 7:25PM) : For sure. And it's important to do so.
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Dec 15
John Martakis John Martakis (Dec 15 2016 7:44AM) : Pool is saying that review editors must keep the best interests of publishing houses in mind while editing. Editors must cater to the publishing house's tastes in order to present them with a finished product they'd find ideal.
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Dec 15
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 15 2016 1:14PM) : Do you mean book review editors? If so, I don't understand your point. Book review editors owe nothing to publishing houses.
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John Martakis John Martakis (Dec 16 2016 12:39PM) : My apologies - for some reason I was thinking of the editors for the book itself, not the book review editors. I answered a question that wasn't asked. more

I suppose book review editors are aware of publishing houses in that they know what kind of “flavor” the house may have given to the book that is being reviewed. Knowing this, they may wish to edit the review in some ways.

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Brittany Martinez Brittany Martinez (Dec 16 2016 5:51AM) : Review editors are aware of what publishing houses are looking for. They know what to expect and how to mold stories to fit the criteria.
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Dec 16
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Dec 16 2016 1:15PM) : I don't understand this point. Editors are independent. They don't follow the lead of publishing houses.
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Ignacio Salas Ignacio Salas (Dec 16 2016 2:12PM) : they know the business more

it means that editors are aware of what is publishable and what’s not. They know the publishing business. They know how to edit, and adapt a work, according to a publishing house’s expectations

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Kenny Yu Kenny Yu (Dec 16 2016 6:47PM) : Aware means they understand and keep the protocol of publishing houses in mind.
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. . . since editors are relying on the same sources of information, since they're working under the same commercial, cultural, and practical pressures, and most important, since they're adhering to the same reviewing traditions, it's not surprising that they arrive at many of the same choices; it would be surprising if they didn't.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Aug 08 2016 3:49PM) : What is wrong with this system, according to Pool?
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Braden Carter Braden Carter (Sep 30 2016 5:36AM) : I think what is trying to be said is that a lot of the time the best books are not always reviewed and those that are more popular will be reviewed because people will be drawn to a popular review.
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T.Racks Tatyana Racks T.Racks Tatyana Racks (Sep 30 2016 1:46PM) : In Response to Carl Rollyson more

According to Pool the system has created this facade where all of these companies who work under the same pressures of enticing the people and peaking interest has become more important than authentic quality. forcing them to go against their own norms, creating this idea that if everyone else is doing the same thing doesn’t it simultaneously become the polar opposite, doesn’t it become weird if as a brand you want to stand out and allude to your own ideals and quality rather than hop on the band wagon and do what every other editorial company is doing.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 02 2016 3:56PM) : A little hard to follow. Peaking is misused.
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student Ross Langhorne student Ross Langhorne (Sep 30 2016 3:14PM) : In reply to Carl Rollyson more

Pool is upset how all of these editors are influenced in the same way. He wants editors to get information from another source to come up with different ideas.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 02 2016 3:57PM) : You do not seem to have realized that Pool is a woman. That is a rather fundamental error.
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Imani McClure Imani McClure (Sep 30 2016 3:32PM) : Restrictions more

The ramifications in the system allow for little flexibility in reviewing. With these restrictions they end up with similar results.

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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 02 2016 3:57PM) : They?
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Oct 3
Andrew White Andrew White (Oct 03 2016 2:42AM) : The most compelling works of literature tend to not always get reviewed. Works that are better known tend to get more attention because readers are attracted to a well-liked review.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 03 2016 1:43PM) : A well liked review makes no sense.
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Oct 11
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Oct 11 2016 10:21PM) : I believe that Andrew White meant "favorable." Even so, I disagree with the latter portion of the comment; even if a book receives massive criticism, any type of publicity is still publicity.
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Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 12 2016 1:01PM) : There is a difference between getting a lot of publicity and actually selling books. A book may get a lot of attention and still not sell well. It may get great reviews and still not sell well.
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Oct 11
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Oct 11 2016 10:18PM) : According to Pool, the reviewing system is myopic because it parallels its sources of information, which are themselves narrow.
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Oct 12
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Oct 12 2016 1:01PM) : Yes, a narrow, self-perpetuating system.
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Nora McCarten Nora McCarten (Nov 20 2016 11:25PM) : stale methods more

Pool’s issue comes with the lack of creativity in book reviewing. She points out that there is a standard of “reviewing traditions” that serve as the unofficial rulebook for book reviewing, though these traditions are forcing reviewers into a box where it is hard to express creativity in structure. The point that editors have many of the same thoughts because of identical commercial and cultural experiences is also very valid and thought-provoking; maybe editors with different kinds of viewpoints are needed to spice up the book reviewing industry.

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Nov 21
Carl Rollyson Carl Rollyson (Nov 21 2016 1:02PM) : Yes, I think Pool would agree. Reviews looks the way they do because of what editor's expect.
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Dec 9
Dylan Diaz Dylan Diaz (Dec 09 2016 3:11AM) : New ideas or interpretations are rarely being offered, everything is catered to the consensus.
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Dec 14
Dvora Zomberg Dvora Zomberg (Dec 14 2016 5:59AM) : I agree with the second half of your statement; the cultural pressures faced by reviewers force them to adhere to what their environments (editors, audiences, etc.) expect.
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Kenny Yu Kenny Yu (Dec 16 2016 6:48PM) : Pool suggests it is black and white, either educate or catering, but behind this, Pool might want it to be a mixture of both.
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