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Alexander Rothenberg(Oct 15 2016 7:17PM):
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From what Pool states, reviewers are of many other professions. Some are lawyers, authors, editors, professors, etc. There are some that Pool considers to be professional, salaried reviewers belonging to a publication.
This is an important question for Pool because reviewers can be anyone, Pool does not want people to be steered away from reviewing because they believe they need certain degrees.
It is important to know what knowledge, bias, motivations, professional ground, grudges, or acclaim the reviewer may or may not have because these will influence the review. Knowing that many reviewers wear other hats /because/ the pay is not enough or whether they were chosen because /of/ those other hats makes a big difference in the reviews written.
Carl Rollyson(Oct 20 2016 7:54AM):
I'm not so sure. If I am paid a one hundred dollars or one thousand dollars, it is not going to make any difference in how I review the book.
student Ross Langhorne(Oct 21 2016 10:49AM):
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Such a simple sentence has so much meaning. Pool wants to know who are is reviewers of his work. He wants to now his real audience and how good they are.
Student Marco Tacuri(Oct 21 2016 9:22PM):
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According to Pool, anybody can be a reviewer. They are either “professionals” or “amateurs”. For Pool this question matters, because it is both encouraging and discouraging, but more encouraging because if they enjoy writing reviews they don’t have to do it as their career. They can do it on the side while they earn “their living elsewhere.”
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 3:01PM):
no, she doesn't consider it a good thing. Theres a point where she compares the commentators on book sites like Amazon that write "a great read!" to the amateurs that write reviews for reputable newspapers alike.
Andrew White(Nov 02 2016 7:09PM):
According to Pool, anyone can be a reviewer. Though this may cheapen or lessen the quality of the review because there are little to no credentials for the field. The occupation itself is ambiguous because everyone has an opinion.
Jennifer Ortega(Dec 15 2016 8:44PM):
This is an important question because as Pool mentions anyone can write a review. The distinction between a person who has knowledge of a subject compared to someone who doesn't, effects the quality of the review.
Ignacio Salas(Dec 16 2016 8:17AM):
everyone can review something, but not everyone Is qualified to do so
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it is important because it is not clear who is a reviewer. It is not even clear the difference between a reviewer and a critic. Is someone who rates a product on eBay or Amazon a reviewer, for instance? Anyone can review something, but not everyone is qualified.
John Martakis(Dec 16 2016 8:29AM):
Qualifications are definitely important as they show whether or not the reviewer is reputable. As Pool says, anybody can be a reviewer, no matter how trustworthy they may or may not be.
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It is also important to know the preferences of the reviewer. If I find a reviewer who shares similar tastes with me, I’ll be more likely to trust their opinion.
jiaqi xiong(Dec 08 2016 3:37PM):
agree with pool says anyone could be a reviewer, "there are a thousand Hamlets in a thousand people's eyes", we might find something new from other's view.
Student Marco Tacuri(Oct 21 2016 9:58PM):
Pool says that in order to write well, the reviewer has to be well read and culturally aware. But also be able to criticize fairly and argue logically. Good writing alone won't make the best review.
Braden Carter(Oct 26 2016 4:46PM):
It also goes into the idea that the author whose book is being reviewed will have a different and defensive outlook on his or her work. Even if the review is being honest it may come off negative and untruthful. But the reviewer will have a different...
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outlook and thought process than the author so these two different minds clashing can create conflict and as we see in Pool, a lawsuit.
Nora McCarten(Nov 20 2016 6:06PM):
special kind of writer
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Agreed. Creating a fair, well-written argument that has validity and cultural relevance, as well as an opinion with flavor but not anything too biased, calls upon a very select group of writers. To do this all in the span of a book review, usually only a few hundred words, means that writers must use every word and phrase to its maximum capability.
Andrew White(Nov 02 2016 7:05PM):
Reviewing can be difficult due to time constraints and the length of whats being reviewed. In other words, time is of the essence.
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 3:11PM):
yes, she criticizes reviews of new books vs a canon. Because reviewers are dealing with new books, they have to get their critiques out there while their books are still new "they inevitably lack time for reflection" according to pool.
Andrew White(Nov 02 2016 7:11PM):
Reviewing can be difficult. Your opinion may ultimately sway a reader to make a decision based on the pro's and con's of the reviewer. The process should be painstaking
Dylan Diaz(Dec 08 2016 9:22PM):
Everyone has an opinion, to review is to give more than just an opinion. Some reviewers believe that is all that matters to the audience, when in all actuality, the analysis is more important.
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 1:56PM):
Even though pool says that logical arguments and cultural awareness are needed in order to fairly critique a book, the review is still subjective and may be in disagreement with the audience. This may make it hard to do well.
John Martakis(Dec 16 2016 4:33AM):
One reason reviewing (and writing in general) is hard to do well is because different courses will have different criteria and standards. What one professor teaches may contradict another professor.
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Developing a good style while being able to judge fairly and thoroughly takes a lot of practice, especially when under the pressure of meeting a deadline.
Kenny Yu(Dec 16 2016 1:42PM):
It is hard to pinpoint every meaning behind each words that are wisely chosen. It is hard to find the deeper meanings in a word choice sense and overall sentence sense.
Ignacio Salas(Dec 16 2016 8:19PM):
reviewing is not like any type of writing
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Reviewing is not like any type of writing. Reviewers must be objective, fair, accurate and knowledgeable about the subject their reviewing. In addition to that, they work on tight deadlines.
Carl Rollyson(Dec 17 2016 7:38AM):
Unless the reviewer is chosen because he or she has a particular kind of bias and experience that may yield a provocative and controversial review.
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 1:59PM):
I know what you mean. As the word count grows and the deadlines approach, you find yourself dissecting every single part of the subject you're reviewing. It can be taxing. Not an easy feat.
John Martakis(Dec 16 2016 6:46AM):
This has happened to me as well. Sometimes you get sick of something after examining every minute detail.
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Sometimes I’ll enjoy a movie and go to write a review on it. When I write the review, I think about what I liked and what I disliked. If nothing stood out to me as a huge negative, I’ll have to think about it for a minute… Then I’ll come up with a bunch of negatives that never really bothered me during the initial viewing. In any future viewings, these negatives become all I can focus on. I guess sometimes critiquing something can ruin a positive initial impression.
Dvora Zomberg(Oct 11 2016 4:45PM):
Pool previously explained that in order for her to properly and thoroughly review a book, she preferred to do her own writing after reading the book for a second time, which she claims is nearly impossible within the time constraints of the job.
Carl Rollyson(Oct 12 2016 7:04AM):
Often a reviewer is given very little time to read a book or is paid so poorly reading the book twice seems not worth the time investment.
Student Marco Tacuri(Oct 21 2016 10:20PM):
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It brothers Pool because when reading under pressure she doesn’t have time to read carefully and think about the book. Instead she starts taking notes. She says that when writing under pressure: “writing can easily become formulaic; the reviews begin to sound the same.”
Alexander Rothenberg(Nov 19 2016 5:44PM):
This bothered Pool because going into a review like this, takes away from the experience. With only focusing on what you're going to say instead of the contents within the book, it is hard to review the book as a whole.
Carl Rollyson(Nov 20 2016 6:59AM):
Yes, the reviewer takes a certain point of view and so much of the book is then ignored. That has happened to some of the reviews of my biographies.
Imani McClure(Dec 12 2016 5:43PM):
"immediately taking notes.."
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I agree with Alexander’s point. Throughout the book Pool emphasizes the importance of being a thorough reviewer. It is implied in the book that reviewing is an experience. The reviewer needs to be knowledgeable and direct, in order to do so the reviewer has to think beyond what he or she would say but first absorb the material.
Approaching the book as a reviewer can take away from the experience of reading the book, and the experience is a crucial component that affects the review of the book. It is a catch 22- either Pool takes notes to remember her initial thoughts towards the book, or she spends double the amount of time by reading the book twice, once to experience it as a reader and gain a feel for the tone of the work, and a second time to experience it as a reviewer and explore it from a more critical standpoint.
Carl Rollyson(Nov 21 2016 6:51AM):
My guess is that most reviewers don't have the time to do a second reading or feel they are not paid enough to do that kind of careful work.
Dylan Diaz(Dec 08 2016 9:24PM):
Because then you are looking for something specifically, rather than enjoying the book like the intended audience is supposed to do.
Kenny Yu(Dec 16 2016 1:42PM):
Pool realized it is a question not answered and also realized she is on both sides, as a writer and audience member, ready to review.
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From what Pool states, reviewers are of many other professions. Some are lawyers, authors, editors, professors, etc. There are some that Pool considers to be professional, salaried reviewers belonging to a publication.
This is an important question for Pool because reviewers can be anyone, Pool does not want people to be steered away from reviewing because they believe they need certain degrees.
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It is important to know what knowledge, bias, motivations, professional ground, grudges, or acclaim the reviewer may or may not have because these will influence the review. Knowing that many reviewers wear other hats /because/ the pay is not enough or whether they were chosen because /of/ those other hats makes a big difference in the reviews written.
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Such a simple sentence has so much meaning. Pool wants to know who are is reviewers of his work. He wants to now his real audience and how good they are.
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According to Pool, anybody can be a reviewer. They are either “professionals” or “amateurs”. For Pool this question matters, because it is both encouraging and discouraging, but more encouraging because if they enjoy writing reviews they don’t have to do it as their career. They can do it on the side while they earn “their living elsewhere.”
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outlook and thought process than the author so these two different minds clashing can create conflict and as we see in Pool, a lawsuit.
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Agreed. Creating a fair, well-written argument that has validity and cultural relevance, as well as an opinion with flavor but not anything too biased, calls upon a very select group of writers. To do this all in the span of a book review, usually only a few hundred words, means that writers must use every word and phrase to its maximum capability.
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Developing a good style while being able to judge fairly and thoroughly takes a lot of practice, especially when under the pressure of meeting a deadline.
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Sometimes I’ll enjoy a movie and go to write a review on it. When I write the review, I think about what I liked and what I disliked. If nothing stood out to me as a huge negative, I’ll have to think about it for a minute… Then I’ll come up with a bunch of negatives that never really bothered me during the initial viewing. In any future viewings, these negatives become all I can focus on. I guess sometimes critiquing something can ruin a positive initial impression.
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It brothers Pool because when reading under pressure she doesn’t have time to read carefully and think about the book. Instead she starts taking notes. She says that when writing under pressure: “writing can easily become formulaic; the reviews begin to sound the same.”
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I agree with Alexander’s point. Throughout the book Pool emphasizes the importance of being a thorough reviewer. It is implied in the book that reviewing is an experience. The reviewer needs to be knowledgeable and direct, in order to do so the reviewer has to think beyond what he or she would say but first absorb the material.
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Approaching the book as a reviewer can take away from the experience of reading the book, and the experience is a crucial component that affects the review of the book. It is a catch 22- either Pool takes notes to remember her initial thoughts towards the book, or she spends double the amount of time by reading the book twice, once to experience it as a reader and gain a feel for the tone of the work, and a second time to experience it as a reviewer and explore it from a more critical standpoint.
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