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Alex Pitre(Nov 07 2016 2:13PM):
Time will never be on the reviewer's side because of industry pressures. The reviewer might be reading multiple books in only a few weeks. That short amount of time does not allow for a total digestion of the material up for review.
Student Marco Tacuri(Nov 11 2016 4:30AM):
That's true. It seems like they have a tight schedule and circumstances takes away their flexibility. So yes, reviewers don't have time to read the book twice and let it sink in.
Time is not on the reviewers side because editors recognize that they have a certain margin of time (in most cases) that a review has to be released in order for the audience to care. Of course, as Pool mentions it is contingent upon the publication, etc.
But, to play devil’s advocate, in this fast paced world, things have to be readily available and convenient. For example, if a review for Harry Potter is released 3 months after the release of the last book, it is less likely to be read than a review that was released sooner. Pool discusses the inflexibility of the editors. Her argument is that the reviewer should have more time to sit with a book, to marinate on it, to become well-versed in the topic… I agree but the editor carries the pressure of the consumers/readers too.
Ariel Lerner(Nov 11 2016 3:51PM):
There is an abundance of new material coming out all the time, and by the time a review is published, it may already be stale.
Braden Carter(Nov 11 2016 9:54PM):
I agree with you professor that the review is a first impression. It will put a thought or stance out there to the public about the work, but by no means is it a final word. Some books can age well with time and be read by generations, and some fade.
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Time will usually work against the reviewer, but it is also not the reviewer’s job to make a statement whether a book was overall successful. They will just help a potential buyer decide if the book would be worth the purchase.
Andrew White(Nov 29 2016 11:29PM):
Times will never be on their side.
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Time will never be on the reviewer’s side because of deadlines. The reviewer might be reading numerous books between a short time spans. That little amount of time does not permit for a concise breakdown of the material up for evaluation. This is important when giving reviews because a reviewer’s first impression may change over time.
Jeongwoo Nahm(Dec 02 2016 3:51AM):
It is true that time will never be on the reviewer's side. Reviewer's write based on present knowledge, expertise, and experience. However, the introduction of an edited version or new information could make older reviews inaccurate.
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 9:51PM):
good point. I think thats what pool means when she says that time will never be on the reviewers side. they have to review works while they are still new. There is a short grace period for reviews as "new" in order to get buzz and sales for the book.
Dylan Diaz(Dec 09 2016 2:41AM):
Reviews are often done after an initial reading, no work done by an author is 100% understood after merely one sitting.
Alexander Rothenberg(Dec 12 2016 11:47PM):
Time will never be on the reviewer's side because most times the reviewer is not doing just one thing. In the case of book reviewing, a reviewer may be doing multiple books. Having to read multiple books and write thoughtful reviews for each is a
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Difficult task. Deadlines for these also pressure the reviewer, causing for somethings being overlooked within the books being reviewed.
Kenny Yu(Dec 16 2016 6:57PM):
A couple reasons. The reviewed must be still relevant when being reviewed. Also, it is hard to review EVERYTHING and to write about each section with great vigor.
Ignacio Salas(Dec 17 2016 1:38AM):
time is of the essence
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because in the reviewing business, time is of the essence. Reviewers are on tight schedules, and must read a variety of books in a short amount of time.
Nora McCarten(Nov 28 2016 4:57PM):
Definitely. There is a fine line between authoritative and pretentious, one that is very easy to cross when opinion is involved. Though tradition may call for a sense of authority in writing, authoritative style in modern reviewing can be misinterpreted.
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 10:16PM):
you're right. an authoritative tone can turn the reader off but I think ultimately, the reader wants someone who has credibility and knows what they are talking about.
Imani McClure(Nov 09 2016 10:07PM):
Authoritative
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I agree with Pool, tradition does demand that the reviewer sound authoritative. When you are reviewing you are urged to pick a perspective/side and stick with it. It doesn’t leave too much room to pose questions in the review. In this paragraph Pool poses the question: should the reviewer be skeptical of facts within a book or should they also question the facts presented? If they question the facts then they have stepped out of the realm of reviewing to an extent, depending on the subject matter. It also doesn’t leave room to sound “authoritative”.
Student Marco Tacuri(Nov 11 2016 4:51AM):
The problem sounding authoritative is that the reviewer could make bad judgements. Pools says that it also depends on weather it's fiction or biography as they are two different kind of works. Therefore, sounding authoritative the reviewer will look bad.
Ariel Lerner(Nov 11 2016 3:46PM):
If the reviewer presents himself as the authority, there is a risk of not approaching the material with a constructive point of view. Nobody wants to read a review with the approach of "I know better," they want to hear analysis & critique.
Andrew White(Nov 29 2016 11:33PM):
There is risk
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Pool states that tradition requests that the reviewer come off as authoritative. When you are reviewing you are obligated to pick a stance and stick with it. This is the backbone of the review and ultimately why people will read it. But there is a risk in seeming condescending.
Alexander Rothenberg(Dec 13 2016 12:21AM):
Sounding authoritative might be mistaken for pretentiousness. While knowledgeable, the reviewer has to appeal to a wider audience sometimes and being too authoritative might push people away.
Jennifer Ortega(Dec 16 2016 2:09AM):
I agree. A reviewer being too authoritative can be mistaken for pretentiousness. This may deflect the reader from continuing the review.
Ignacio Salas(Dec 17 2016 1:56AM):
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in some sense, reviewers must be authoritative. After all, they are either recommending a book/movie/show or not. But the problem is that being too authoritative can make readers believe that the reviewer sees him/herself as superior.
Student Marco Tacuri(Nov 11 2016 5:14AM):
I agree with you. To write short well crafted sentences, the writer should choose the right words to convey the message with less precise words.
Ariel Lerner(Nov 11 2016 3:47PM):
It is challenging to craft a piece that is concise, with carefully chosen words that get the message across. It can be difficult to trim the fat.
Carl Rollyson(Nov 12 2016 12:13PM):
It is not just a matter of trimming fat but of getting rid of words that don't quite get the job done and picking better words.
Dvora Zomberg(Nov 30 2016 1:04AM):
Great analogy
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I like the phrase that you used here (“trim the fat”). It’s a near-perfect analogy; a cut of meat with too much inedible fat (too many words, or words that don’t fit well) proves burdensome on a customer (reader). I wouldn’t want to be bothered with a too-wordy book, and I can imagine that meat-eaters prefer to purchase cuts that are already cleaned up.
Braden Carter(Nov 11 2016 10:06PM):
Short writing requires more discipline. Delivering the information concise and compact is much more difficult then longer form writing which tends to look more like ranting.
Carl Rollyson(Nov 12 2016 12:14PM):
Nothing wrong with longer form writing. Not everything can be done in the short form. Short stories, for example, cannot replace novels.
Nora McCarten(Nov 28 2016 5:00PM):
accuracy vs space
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Writing short is often hard, especially in the case of reviewing. A reviewer is trying to condense a myriad of thoughts, feelings, and critiques about a full book into a review of only a few hundred words. Trying to accurately express one’s opinion with limited space can lead to the reviewer choosing words and phrases that save space and word count but maybe aren’t as true to the feelings of the reviewer.
Andrew White(Nov 29 2016 11:35PM):
Writing shorter
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Writing briefer means the writer has to be more cohesive with fewer words. The manner of picking the right words is challenging but ultimately rewarding. This is imperative when writing a review.
Dvora Zomberg(Nov 30 2016 12:57AM):
Writing short vs. writing long
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“Writing short” can be compared to poetry composition. Every single word must be appropriate, or else the end result becomes more of a disaster than a poem. In a 200-word piece, a writer has only so many ways to “get it right”; in contrast, a few errors in a 10,000-word piece may be considered more acceptable and will not necessarily ruin the overall work.
Dylan Diaz(Dec 09 2016 2:46AM):
Leaving out words is one of the most difficult things for a writer to do. Writers often feel the more words that are written, the easier it is for the writing to be understood.
Jennifer Ortega(Dec 16 2016 2:00AM):
Agreed. I think this is the more difficult part because of the word count constraint while trying to sharply execute the review
Alexander Rothenberg(Dec 13 2016 12:00AM):
With writing short reviews you have to say alot without writing alot. You can not go into as much detail as a long review can.
John Martakis(Dec 16 2016 10:21AM):
Succinct writing is difficult, especially when the reviewer has a lot to say.
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Every word must serve a purpose. Identifying which words are wasted space and getting the point across efficiently while maintaining good style is never easy.
Kenny Yu(Dec 16 2016 7:00PM):
It is difficult to get your full point across within a small amount of words. But with more words, you can be more descriptive and allow readers to fully understand your ideas.
Ignacio Salas(Dec 17 2016 1:35AM):
cut to the chase
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It is way harder. First of all, you have to make your point in less space. Being concise but precise at the same time is no easy task. Writers need to say the most important things in a limited space, leaving less room for examples and illustrations.
Lena Inglis(Dec 09 2016 10:40PM):
shortcuts could be adjectives like: astonishing, flawed, and stunning which as pool says are nonspecific and can be applied (or misapplied) to pretty much any book.
John Martakis(Dec 16 2016 12:16PM):
I'm astonishingly guilty of this one. It's a tough habit to shake.
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Not only can these words be applied to any book, they’re also vague and usually unnecessary. I find that my sentences always sound better without them. It can be difficult to express ideas without resorting to these adjectives, but it’s part of what makes a good reviewer.
Kenny Yu(Dec 16 2016 7:01PM):
Instead of explaining gray areas of where some part of a book might be written poorly, reviewers have to resort to generally stating how GREAT or how BAD a book is.
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Time is not on the reviewers side because editors recognize that they have a certain margin of time (in most cases) that a review has to be released in order for the audience to care. Of course, as Pool mentions it is contingent upon the publication, etc.
But, to play devil’s advocate, in this fast paced world, things have to be readily available and convenient. For example, if a review for Harry Potter is released 3 months after the release of the last book, it is less likely to be read than a review that was released sooner. Pool discusses the inflexibility of the editors. Her argument is that the reviewer should have more time to sit with a book, to marinate on it, to become well-versed in the topic… I agree but the editor carries the pressure of the consumers/readers too.
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Time will usually work against the reviewer, but it is also not the reviewer’s job to make a statement whether a book was overall successful. They will just help a potential buyer decide if the book would be worth the purchase.
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Time will never be on the reviewer’s side because of deadlines. The reviewer might be reading numerous books between a short time spans. That little amount of time does not permit for a concise breakdown of the material up for evaluation. This is important when giving reviews because a reviewer’s first impression may change over time.
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Difficult task. Deadlines for these also pressure the reviewer, causing for somethings being overlooked within the books being reviewed.
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I agree with Pool, tradition does demand that the reviewer sound authoritative. When you are reviewing you are urged to pick a perspective/side and stick with it. It doesn’t leave too much room to pose questions in the review. In this paragraph Pool poses the question: should the reviewer be skeptical of facts within a book or should they also question the facts presented? If they question the facts then they have stepped out of the realm of reviewing to an extent, depending on the subject matter. It also doesn’t leave room to sound “authoritative”.
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Pool states that tradition requests that the reviewer come off as authoritative. When you are reviewing you are obligated to pick a stance and stick with it. This is the backbone of the review and ultimately why people will read it. But there is a risk in seeming condescending.
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in some sense, reviewers must be authoritative. After all, they are either recommending a book/movie/show or not. But the problem is that being too authoritative can make readers believe that the reviewer sees him/herself as superior.
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Writing shorter means the writer has to be more concise. The process of curating the right words is difficult and time consuming.
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I like the phrase that you used here (“trim the fat”). It’s a near-perfect analogy; a cut of meat with too much inedible fat (too many words, or words that don’t fit well) proves burdensome on a customer (reader). I wouldn’t want to be bothered with a too-wordy book, and I can imagine that meat-eaters prefer to purchase cuts that are already cleaned up.
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Writing short is often hard, especially in the case of reviewing. A reviewer is trying to condense a myriad of thoughts, feelings, and critiques about a full book into a review of only a few hundred words. Trying to accurately express one’s opinion with limited space can lead to the reviewer choosing words and phrases that save space and word count but maybe aren’t as true to the feelings of the reviewer.
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“Writing short” can be compared to poetry composition. Every single word must be appropriate, or else the end result becomes more of a disaster than a poem. In a 200-word piece, a writer has only so many ways to “get it right”; in contrast, a few errors in a 10,000-word piece may be considered more acceptable and will not necessarily ruin the overall work.
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Every word must serve a purpose. Identifying which words are wasted space and getting the point across efficiently while maintaining good style is never easy.
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It is way harder. First of all, you have to make your point in less space. Being concise but precise at the same time is no easy task. Writers need to say the most important things in a limited space, leaving less room for examples and illustrations.
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Some shortcuts include comparisons, familiar adjectives and clichés, buzzwords or code words, the phrase “I like…”
All of these shortcuts aren’t thorough or original. Pool urges reviewers to aim to be more concise.
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Not only can these words be applied to any book, they’re also vague and usually unnecessary. I find that my sentences always sound better without them. It can be difficult to express ideas without resorting to these adjectives, but it’s part of what makes a good reviewer.
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