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HOW TO DO A CLOSE READING

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The skill called "close reading" is fundamental for interpreting literature. "Reading closely," means developing a deep understanding and a precise interpretation of a literary passage that is based first and foremost on the words themselves. But a close reading does not stop there; rather, it embraces larger themes and ideas evoked and/or implied by the passage itself. It is essential that we distinguish between doing a close reading and writing one. Doing a close reading involves a thought process that moves from small details to larger issues. Writing a close reading begins with these larger issues and uses the relevant details as evidence.

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Getting Started: Treat the passage as if it were complete in itself. Read it a few times, at least once aloud. Concentrate on all its details and assume that everything is significant.

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Iroquois Myth: The Earth on the Turtle’s Back

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Directions: This is worth 10 points. Please make sure that you follow the directions closely

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1. Write directly on the passage! (2 Points)-Write at least two questions in the margins as you re-read. Write at least two opinions in the margins: you might write your opinion of a character, an idea, the writing style, etc.

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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 06 2016 2:35PM) : Question more

Are the opinions in addition to the questions, or do we have two questions+opinions total?

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2. Word meaning (2 Points): Determine the meanings of words and references. Also, note (and verify) interesting connotations of words. Look up two words you do not know or which are used in unfamiliar ways. (Laziness in this step will inevitably result in diminished comprehension.) Write the definition of the word. Explain how it is being used in the story.

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3. Imagery (2 Points): What sort of imagery is invoked? (What images can you see in your head?) Highlight two passages that create an image in your head and explain why you like it, or how that image has changed.

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In the beginning there was no world, no land, no creatures of the kind that are around us now, and there were no men. But there was a great ocean which occupied space as far as anyone could see. Above the ocean was a great void of air. And in the air there lived the birds of the sea; in the ocean lived the fish and the creatures of the deep. Far above this unpeopled world, there was a Sky World. Here lived gods who were like people—like Iroquois.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 4:35PM) : This reminds me of the movie Interstellar when Mathew McConnaughey steps onto a planet that is a massive ocean, except there were no birds or fish. There were people awaiting in the spacecraft above, similar to the "Sky World."
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Christina Crabb Christina Crabb (Sep 06 2016 11:55PM) : Reminds me of the Bible. more

This paragraph reminds me of when you first read the Bible. It also reminds me of a fiction/historical book.

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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 6:21AM) : Imagery more

This portion of the myth reminds me of the Book of Genesis in the Bible where there was no world. But then God created the Heavens and the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th day.

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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 9:53AM) : Word Meaning more

Void; a vast emptiness.

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Student Jaylen Simmons Student Jaylen Simmons (Sep 07 2016 7:08PM) : How I see it more

In my mind this imagery reminds me of the “First people”, referring to all native tribes. I can understand through the text how the native people felt seeing this new land

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 07 2016 8:09PM) : This makes me think about like almost a dessert full of nothing but when you look closer there is life everywhere.
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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 10:08PM) : Sky world imagery more

Even though there isn’t much description, the “Sky World” immediately makes me think of the place where Zeus and all the rest of the gods lived in the Disney movie Hercules. Where everything was made of clouds.

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 09 2016 7:35AM) : Question more

What did the Sky World look like?

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 12:33AM) : The beginning of this paragraph reminds me a lot of the beginning of the Bible.
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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 12:38AM) : Who is telling this story? This paragraph has many beliefs from our day in it and this shows how lots of people believe very similar beliefs and I can help but to wonder who is telling this story?
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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 15 2016 2:38AM) : First Imagery more

This paragraph creates this picture in my mind: water surrounds me. It is deep. It is blue. It is endless. Birds soar above my head. There is a single cloud in the sky. The cloud is very far away from me, but, somehow, I can see people dressed in gold standing on it, watching me.

I really like this image because it is very peaceful. The scene calms me.

The image has not changed for me.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 12:34AM) : So far, this paragraph is showing how many people believe the same thing, the story is just told differently.
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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 5:15PM) : Word Meaning - Unpeopled more

I’ve never heard that term before. It means to be empty of people. The story is using this word to say the world has no people.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 12:39AM) : Is the Sky World supposed to symbolize heaven? This reminds me of Avatar a lot because they called humans, Sky People.
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In the Sky World there was a man who had a wife, and the wife was expecting a child. The woman became hungry for all kinds of strange delicacies, as women do when they are with child. She kept her husband busy almost to distraction finding delicious things for her to eat. In the middle of the Sky World there grew a Great Tree which was not like any of the trees that we know. It was tremendous; it had grown there forever. It had enormous roots that spread out from the floor of the Sky World. And on its branches there were many different kinds of leaves and different kinds of fruits and flowers. The tree was not supposed to be marked or mutilated by any of the beings who dwelt in the Sky World. It was a sacred tree that stood at the center of the universe.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 10:36AM) : Imagery #1- [Edited] more

The imagery that comes to mind is remarkable in this passage. I imagine the great tree’s giant roots stretching amongst the vast Sky World, bearing abundant amounts of fruit of all varieties.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 11:14AM) : Why was the tree so sacred? What was the purpose of it not being bothered?
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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 06 2016 4:10PM) : Imagery of the Tree more

The imagery I imagine is the tree having many colors of leaves and flowers. I imagine it with many different fruits of shapes and colors. I like this because I picture it being very beautiful.

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Christina Crabb Christina Crabb (Sep 06 2016 6:01PM) : What does Sky World mean? more

What do they mean by Sky World, do they sit on clouds or what? What makes the sacred tree so special?

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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 12:27AM) : Question #1 more

In the paragraph, it is stated that the pregnant women became hungry for “strange” foods. But then it says that she was searching for something “delicious” for her to eat. Were delicious things to eat strange in the beginning of time and why?

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 12:48AM) : This paragraph invokes imagination. I see the tree as the beginning, and the branches as the possibilities. The tree of life, so to speak.
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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 3:49AM) : Imagery and Question more

The imagery provided in this paragraph of the text left me seeing vivid images of a beautiful tree standing in the center of the Sky World.

Is this tree the tree of life? In some civilizations the tree of life stands at the center of the universe or the center of life, which is where the passage says the sacred tree is found.

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Student Jaylen Simmons Student Jaylen Simmons (Sep 07 2016 1:14PM) : Questions and Opinions more

We know it’s a natural thing for women to have cravings of some sort when she has her child. So, why was this tree there with many fruits? I find it almost offensive to put something in someone’s eyes, that they desire to have but cannot touch or have? Was this suppose to teach a lesson or moral? Either way it shows how beautiful some things can be in the world, I guess we just have to look at things differently.

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 07 2016 2:10PM) : This reminds me of the bible. The tree of life and death creates a vivid picture in my mind.
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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 4:12PM) : The Great Tree imagery more

The “Great Tree” makes me think of the tree of good and evil in the Bible, where it was in the middle of the garden of Eden and it was different from all of the other trees with a special fruit. But they were not allowed to touch it.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 13 2016 6:53PM) : This reminds me of the newer version of Hercules with Dwayne "the rock" and the very first scene of that movie is a woman struggling to give birth.
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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 13 2016 6:54PM) : This puts the image in my head of the giant mother tree in Avatar. It looked normal on the outside but inside there was a spiral branch type thing.
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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 13 2016 6:58PM) : After re-reading this paragraph, I realized that this story sounds very familiar to me. The way that tthe first two sentences talk about pregnancy cravings and then they jump to a sacred tree, reminds me of Adam and Eve. Is this the story of Adam and Eve?
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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 13 2016 6:56PM) : Supposed? uh oh. Why do they use the word "supposed"? The words used in this paragraph are already foreshadowing what may or may not happen, in my opinion.
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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 11:18AM) : Imagery #1 more

I see a huge tree is in the middle of a planet and it has it’s roots wrapped around the planet.

The woman decided that she wanted some bark from one of the roots of the Great

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 5:19PM) : Opinion #1 more

The woman seems to be kind of full of herself. It seems like she isn’t really thinking of anyone but herself.

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 5:21AM) : opinion more

Out of all of the things she could want, she wanted to eat the bark of the great tree… that’s a little strange.

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Tree—perhaps as a food or as a medicine, we don’t know. She told her husband this. He didn’t like the idea. He knew it was wrong. But she insisted, and he gave in. So he dug a hole among the roots of this great sky tree, and he bared some of its roots. But the floor of the Sky World wasn’t very thick, and he broke a hole through it. He was terrified, for he had never expected to find empty space underneath the world.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 4:47PM) : This sound a lot like the Garden of Eden in the Biblical book of Genesis. She wanted the bark from the tree, just like Eve wanted the fruit. Both the man and Adam were foolish enough to agree. more

After reading through the passage, it seems like a twisted version of beginning of the book of Genesis.

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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 10:02AM) : Question more

Why did the man not tell the other sky people of the hole and what he saw?

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Student Jaylen Simmons Student Jaylen Simmons (Sep 07 2016 7:20PM) : Words & Meanings more

My guess on the words bared would be, honored or worshiped of some kind. I conclude this because of the sentence before, showing how great the tree is

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Bared: open to view, undisguised.

The word Bared used in this paragraph is that he can see some of the roots of the tree and realized something.

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 07 2016 8:12PM) : I agree with Kaleb this is a weird manipulated version of the bible.
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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 10:20PM) : Bared definition more

Bared: To expose to view

So he was moving whatever it was that was covering the roots of the great tree so he could see them.

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 08 2016 12:26AM) : Opinion more

I think this is similar to Genesis when Eve wanted to eat the fruit from the tree.

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 5:22PM) : Opinion #2 more

I feel like the man wants to make his wife happy but at the same time know that in doing so, he could get in some kind of trouble.

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 5:23PM) : Question #1 more

If the floor of the sky wasn’t very thick, how did the roots grow? Did they grown underneath the floor of the sky?

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 5:23AM) : Question more

If the tree is the Great big Tree, how is it anchored in to the ground if it is shallow?

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 6:51AM) : I do find it curious that the people of the Sky World have not found what is beneath them. The tree would have a long time to grow, so the people of the Sky World have probably existed for a long time. But why has nobody gotten curious?
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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:00AM) : I can see the man breaking the ground and like in a movie, the picture zooms out to show the whole planet and it is held together by the sacred tree's roots.

But his wife was filled with curiosity. He wouldn’t get any of the roots for her, so she set out to do it herself. She bent over and she looked down, and she saw the ocean far below. She leaned down and stuck her head through the hole and looked all around. No one knows just what happened next. Some say she slipped. Some say that her husband, fed up with all the demands she had made on him, pushed her.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 12:53AM) : First Question [Edited] more

Do you think the wife was filled with any yearning to live down below in the ocean instead of living in the Sky World?

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:02AM) : Why did the people let a pregnant woman wander off by herself?
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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:04AM) : How does the author know that she saw the ocean below? I thought the man saw nothing under the roots in the above paragraph?
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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 07 2016 7:24PM) : Story-telling device more

I feel like this is an interesting story-telling device, which they use a few times throughout the passage. It implies a non-omniscient narrator, which is cool.

So she fell through the hole. As she fell, she frantically grabbed at its edges, but her hands slipped. However, between her fingers there clung bits of things that were growing on the floor of the Sky World and bits of the root tips of the Great Tree. And so she began to fall toward the great ocean far below.

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 5:25AM) : Imagery more

For some reason, I picture the ground to be clouds and when she goes to grab the ground to prevent a fall, the clouds just disperse around her hand. And the tree is floating.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:06AM) : The images I am imagining remind me of Alice in Wonderland as she fell. The paragraph does not say if she swam, sank, or fell through air. Why was she snooping around when she was pregnant? [Edited]
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The birds of the sea saw the woman falling, and they immediately consulted with each other as to what they could do to help her. Flying wingtip to wingtip they made a great feathery raft in the sky to support her, and thus they broke her fall. But of course it was not possible for them to carry the woman very long. Some of the other birds of the sky flew down to the surface of the ocean and called up the ocean creatures to see what they could do to help. The great sea turtle came and agreed to receive her on his back. The birds placed her gently on the shell of the turtle, and now the turtle floated about on the huge ocean with the woman safely on his back.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 4:49PM) : Imagery #2- more

This is another example of the amazing imagery found in Native American tales; I can vividly imagine the scene of her falling through the sky, being saved by the animals at the breathtaking moments of her plummet to the sea.

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 6:53AM) : I find a great example of imagery here. Being able to imagine all the teamwork and effort the creatures put in to helping one another. It was almost welcoming.
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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 10:05AM) : Imagery more

When the passage explains that the birds flew wingtip to wingtip to catch the woman, I imagined a bed of birds catching the woman softly.

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Student Jaylen Simmons Student Jaylen Simmons (Sep 07 2016 7:24PM) : Words & Meanings more

I would guess the consulted used in this text would mean discuss or argue? I only say this by re-reading the sentence showing that there was someone else involved

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Consulted: To seek advice or information.

I think in the story the women was asking for help immediately so she can survive from falling

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 5:29PM) : Imagery #2 more

I see a huge turtle with the woman sitting on it like it is some kind of boat or something.

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 5:34AM) : Thoughts on the matter more

The Native American usually include many animals that play an important part in their lives, and therefor made them crucial in their creation story.
Consult: to discuss or confer with someone. The animals in general native american lore do consult with each other and play an important role in the lives of the tribes. In this story the birds consulting with each other saves the woman’s life from a dangerous fall.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:10AM) : All of these paragraphs seem to link to a movie or story in some way. I am seeing The Life of Pi and the giant turtle in that movie. Everything reminds me of something in one way or another.

The beings up in the Sky World paid no attention to this. They knew what was happening, but they chose to ignore it.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 5:06PM) : Question #2- more

Why did the Sky beings ignore this occurrence?

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 5:15PM) : I wonder why they chose to ignore what was going on? Perhaps they saw this as punishment for what the woman had done?
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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 6:31AM) : Question #2 more

Why did the Sky World decide to ignore all the things that happened to these people? Maybe it was to challenge her to fix her own problem.

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 6:55AM) : If they knew what was happening, then where are they in the rest of the story? Does this simply mean that the Sky World saw it as a way of punishing the woman?
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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 10:32PM) : But why did they ignore it? Was she a bad person? I'm pretty sure she would have at least one friend that would try to help her.
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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 08 2016 12:31AM) : Question more

Why did the beings in Sky World ignore what was happening?

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 18 2016 9:59PM) : Why did he choose to ignore it?
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When the woman recovered from her shock and terror, she looked around her.

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All that she could see were the birds and the sea creatures and the sky and the ocean.

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And the woman said to herself that she would die. But the creatures of the sea came to her and said that they would try to help her and asked her what they could do.

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 06 2016 10:18PM) : Imagery 2 more

I imagine the women in the middle with all the creatures gathered around her. I like this imagery because it shows friendship between the animals and the women.

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 18 2016 10:00PM) : Why would the creatures want to help her?
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She told them that if they could find some soil, she could plant the roots stuck between her fingers, and from them plants would grow. The sea animals said perhaps there was dirt at the bottom of the ocean, but no one had ever been down there so they could not be sure.

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If there was dirt at the bottom of the ocean, it was far, far, below the surface in the cold deeps. But the animals said they would try to get some. One by one the diving birds and animals tried and failed. They went to the limits of their endurance, but they could not get to the bottom of the ocean. Finally, the muskrat said he would try. He dived and disappeared. All the creatures waited, holding their breath, but he did not return. After a long time, his little body floated up to the surface of the ocean, a tiny crumb of earth clutched in his paw. He seemed to be dead. They pulled him up on the turtle’s back and they sang and prayed over him and breathed air into his mouth, and finally, he stirred. Thus it was the muskrat, the Earth-Diver, who brought from the bottom of the ocean the soil from which the earth was to grow.

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 6:59AM) : I am unaware of what a muskrat is, so I am consulting my good friend Google for help. It appears by its name that it is a rat that smells a certain way. My opinion is that they must have valued the muskrat in a certain way, as it was vital to the story.

The woman took the tiny clod of dirt and placed it on the middle of the great sea turtle’s back. Then the woman began to walk in a circle around it, moving in the direction that the sun goes. The earth began to grow. When the earth was big enough, she planted the roots she had clutched between her fingers when she fell from the Sky World. Thus the plants grew on the earth.

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 5:34PM) : Word Meaning - Clod more

A clod is a lump of dirt or clay. In the story it is used define what the muskrat brought back.

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To keep the earth growing, the woman walked as the sun goes, moving in the direction that the people still move in the dance rituals. She gathered roots and plants to eat and built herself a little hut. After a while, the woman’s time came, and she was delivered of a daughter. The woman and her daughter kept walking in a circle around the earth, so that the earth and plants would continue to grow. They lived on the plants and roots they gathered. The girl grew up with her mother, cut off forever from the Sky

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 12:59AM) : Second Question more

What size do you think the earth was when the woman constructed her hut?

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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 07 2016 7:54PM) : neato more

It’s neat how the story describes, not just how the natural world came to be, but also the origins of the people’s rituals.

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World above, knowing only the birds and the creatures of the sea, seeing no other beings like herself. One day, when the girl had grown to womanhood, a man appeared. No one knows for sure who this man was. He had something to do with the gods above. Perhaps he was the West Wind. As the girl looked at him, she was filled with terror, and amazement, and warmth, and she fainted dead away. As she lay on the ground, the man reached into his quiver, and he took out two arrows, one sharp and one blunt, and he laid them across the body of the girl, and quietly went away.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 5:02PM) : Question #1- [Edited] more

I’m not familiar with what they are really meaning; the context of the “West Wind”. What is the West Wind, what do they mean when referring to it, and does it have a deeper meaning?

After researching, I found out that the idea of the West Wind had to do with new beginnings and relationships. Also used as a representation of spiritual faith. So I think it is interesting how it was more suggested beforehand that he was the one to bring the “new beginning.”

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1. https://www.buildingbeautifulsouls.com/symbols-meanings/five-elements-symbolic-meaning/air-element-symbolic-meaning/

2. http://native-american-totems.com/four-winds/mudjekeewis-spirit-keeper-of-the-west-winds/

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:15AM) : "Fainted dead away" basically means that she passed out cold and wasn't waking up anytime soon. Why does this girl pass out from seeing a stranger? Why does he lay arrows on her?] [Edited]
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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 7:05AM) : But which of these arrows represents the right-handed twin and the left-handed twin? more

In the end, the right-handed twin appeared to be stronger – in a more methodical sense, sharper. At the same time, in the ending, they portrayed the left-handed twin to represent the evils of the world, which could also be sharp. However, I suppose the left-handed twin would be the blunted one, as having ‘good’ faith would portray one as strong.

When the girl awoke from her faint, she and her mother continued to walk around the earth. After a while, they knew that the girl was to bear a child. They did not know it, but the girl was to bear twins.

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Within the girl’s body, the twins began to argue and quarrel with one another.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 4:31PM) : Opinion #1- more

That is one of the biggest plot twists, all in one sentence…

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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 10:41PM) : Quarrel: an angry argument or disagreement. more

I’ve heard this word before, but I’ve never really known what it meant. So in the story the twins were fighting in their mother’s womb?

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There could be no peace between them. As the time approached for them to be born, the twins fought about their birth. The right-handed twin wanted to be born in the normal way, as all children are born. But the left-handed twin said no. He said he saw light in another direction, and said he would be born that way. The right-handed twin beseeched him not to, saying that he would kill their mother. But the left-handed twin was stubborn. He went in the direction where he saw light. But he could not be born through his mother’s mouth or her nose. He was born through her left armpit, and killed her. And meanwhile, the right-handed twin was born in the normal way, as all children are born.

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Christina Crabb Christina Crabb (Sep 07 2016 5:09AM) : What! more

What in the world! That left-handed twin is stupidly stubborn! If I were him I would have taken his brothers advice.

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 2:54AM) : Word definition more

Beseech: To ask urgently. Synonyms: Beg, Plead, and Entreat.

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The twins met in the world outside, and the right-handed twin accused his brother of murdering their mother. But the grandmother told them to stop their quarreling. They buried their mother. And from her grave grew the plants which the people still use.

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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 10:09AM) : Word Meaning more

Quarrelling; Verbal fighting, or a disagreement.

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 08 2016 12:34AM) : Opinion more

It is interesting that people were able to benefit from her death.

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From her head grew the corn, the beans, and the squash—“our supporters, the three sisters.” And from her heart grew the sacred tobacco, which the people still use in the ceremonies and by whose upward floating smoke they send thanks. The women call her “our mother,” and they dance and sing in the rituals so that the corn, the beans, and the squash may grow to feed the people.

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But the conflict of the twins did not end at the grave of their mother. And, strangely enough, the grandmother favored the left-handed twin.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 07 2016 7:06PM) : First Opinion more

I think that the twins’ grandmother liked the left-handed twin more than she liked the right-handed twin because the left-handed twin was rebellious like the grandmother was when she was younger and pregnant with the twins’ mother.

The right-handed twin was angry, and he grew more angry as he thought how his brother had killed their mother. The right-handed twin was the one who did everything just as he should. He said what he meant, and he meant what he said. He always told the truth, and he always tried to accomplish what seemed to be right and reasonable. The left-handed twin never said what he meant or meant what he said. He always lied, and he always did things backward. You could never tell what he was trying to do because he always made it look as if he were doing the opposite. He was the devious one.

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Christina Crabb Christina Crabb (Sep 07 2016 5:12AM) : Mad! more

I totally agree with the right-handed twin. I can’t believe their grandmother is she stupid or something!

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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 10:47PM) : Opinion more

In my opinion, devious people or people who lie a lot always seem to be really charismatic, so it makes sense to me that he would be favored by their grandmother.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:20AM) : Is this the story of Cain and Able?
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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 7:14AM) : I always had an idea of what devious meant, but I could never get an exact definition down. Devious simply means unexpected, roundabout ways of achieving goals, in my opinion. It is an adjective, which describes how the unexpected is often dishonorable.

These two brothers, as they grew up, represented two ways of the world which are in all people. The Indians did not call these the right and the wrong. They called them the straight mind and the crooked mind, the upright man and the devious man, the right and the left.

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The twins had creative powers. They took clay and modeled it into animals, and they gave these animals life. And in this they contended with one another. The righthanded twin made the deer and the left-handed twin made the mountain lion which kills the deer. But the right-handed twin knew there would always be more deer than mountain lions. And he made another animal. He made the ground squirrel. The lefthanded twin saw that the mountain lion could not get to the ground squirrel, who digs a hold, so he made the weasel. And although the weasel can go into the ground squirrel’s hole and kill him, there are lots of ground squirrels and not so many weasels. Next the right-handed twin decided he would make an animal that the weasel could not kill, so he made the porcupine. But the left-handed twin made the bear, who flips the porcupine over on his back and tears out his belly.

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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 06 2016 4:02PM) : The two brothers more

In modern society, we tend to see herbivores as peaceful and carnivores as aggressive. Given what happens with the right-hand brother later in the story, might the Iroquois have seen things in a different light?

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 06 2016 10:45PM) : Word Meaning [Edited] more

Contended:to argue or state in strong and definite way.
This word is used to show how they communicated with each other after they created the animals out of clay.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 15 2016 2:39AM) : Second Imagery more

This paragraph creates this image in my head: the two brothers are sitting, facing each other, on the ground. Their hands are dry and stained from clay. There is dried clay wedged underneath their fingernails and smeared across their faces. They are surrounded by mounds of clay and already-made clay animals. The brothers do not talk to each other. They only spy on what animal the other is making so that they can make their own animal to oppose and defeat it.

I do not like this image because it reveals the selfish and jealous nature of humans. This scene unsettles me.

The image did not change for me.

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And the right-handed twin made berries and fruits of other kinds for his creatures to live on. The left-handed twin made briars and poison ivy, and the poisonous plants like the baneberry and the dogberry, and the suicide root with which people kill themselves when they go out of their minds. And the left-handed twin made medicines, for good and for evil, for doctoring and for witchcraft.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 5:23PM) : I find it odd that the left-handed twin made plants for medicine as well as poisonous plants. The rest of the story makes it sound like the left-handed twin is sort of evil.
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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 06 2016 4:32PM) : suicide root more

I must say, I didn’t know what “Suicide Root” was going into this. Apparently this plant, also known as spotted water hemlock, is considered to be the most poisonous in all of North America.

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A briar is any of a number of prickling scrambling shrubs.

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Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:30AM) : I do not know what a baneberry plant is so I looked it up. Apparently it is a very deadly plant and when eaten, it usually gives you cardiac arrest and then you die.
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And finally, the right-handed twin made man. The people do not know just how much the left-handed twin had to do with making man. Man was made of clay, like pottery, and baked in the fire….

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The world the twins made was a balanced and orderly world, and this was good. The plant-eating animals created by the right-handed twin would eat up all the vegetation if their number was not kept down by the meat-eating animals which the left-handed twin created. But if these carnivorous animals ate too many other animals, then they would starve, for they would run out of meat. So the right and the left-handed twins built balance into the world.

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As the twins became men full grown, they still contested with one another. No one had won, and no one had lost. And they knew that the conflict was becoming sharper and sharper and one of them would have to vanquish the other.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 5:04PM) : The word sharp can mean coming to a point, meaning their conflict was nearing a climax or becoming more and more intense.
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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 08 2016 6:22PM) : Imagery more

This is an interesting image. We are all familiar with the image of young brothers fighting. I have a 13 year old brother and we often fight. However, these brothers have continued the fight into adulthood. That brings about an entirely different image.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 1:30AM) : First Word Meaning [Edited] more

I did not know the meaning of “vanquish.” “Vanquish” means “to defeat in any contest or conflict; be victorious over” (“Vanquish”).

“Vanquish” is being used in this story to explain and express what has to take place between the brothers.

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“Vanquish”. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. 7 Sep. 2016.

And so they came to the duel. They started with gambling. They took a wooden bowl, and in it they put wild plum pits. One side of the pits was burned black, and by tossing the pits in the bowl, and betting on how these would fall, they gambled against one another, as the people still do in the New Year’s rites. All through the morning they gambled at this game, and all through the afternoon, and the sun went down. And when the sun went down, the game was done, and neither one had won.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 1:37AM) : Second Word Meaning [Edited] more

I did not know the meaning of “rites.” “Rite” — the singular form of “rites” in this sentence — means “any customary observance or practice” (“Rite”).

“Rites” is being used in this sentence to inform the readers that this is a regular “practice” even at the present time (“Rite”).

Works Cited:
“Rite”. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. 7 Sep. 2016.

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So they went on to battle one another at the lacrosse game. And they contested all day, and the sun went down, and the game was done. And neither had won.

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And now the battled with clubs, and they fought all day, and the sun went down, and the fight was done. But neither had won.

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And they went from one duel to another to see which one would succumb. Each one knew in his deepest mind that there was something, somewhere, that would vanquish the other. But what was it? Where to find it?

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 5:26PM) : Word Meaning #2- more

Vanquish (Verb) – Defeat thoroughly.

It is being used in other words as, “to get rid of one another.”

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 06 2016 10:35PM) : Word Meaning more

Succumb: to stop trying to resist something.
This is being used to say what will stop their duels.

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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 6:39AM) : Word Meaning more

Duel-a contest or fight between two people.

It is used in this story to describe how the twins would compete with each other and hate each other.

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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 11:12PM) : Why fight? more

I don’t see why they always fought, they did have different personalities, but they made the world balanced. They were different, but they worked well together. I don’t think the left twin was evil, he just disliked his twin.

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Keep on keepin’ on.

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Keep on keepin’ on.

Kaitlyn Booher (Sep 14 2016 1:32AM) : I forgot what vanquish means so I looked it up and it means "defeat thoroughly."
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Each knew somewhere in his mind what it was that was his own weak point. They talked about this as they contested in these duels, day after day, and somehow the deep mind of each entered into the other. And the deep mind of the right-handed twin lied to his brother, and the deep mind of the left-handed twin told the truth.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 11:20AM) : Word Meaning #1- more

Contested (Verb) – to engage in competition to attain (usually a position of power). / To oppose an action, decision, or theory as mistaken or wrong.

It is being used in the story like, “they fought constantly”.

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On the last day of the duel, as they stood, they at last knew how the right-handed twin was to kill his brother. Each selected his weapon. The left-handed twin chose a mere stick that would do him no good. But the right-handed twin picked out the deer antler, and with one touch he destroyed his brother. And the left-handed twin died, but he died and he didn’t die. The right-handed twin picked up the body and cast it off the edge of the earth. And some place below the world, the left-handed twin still lives and reigns.

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When the sun rises from the east and travels in a huge arc along the sky dome, which rests like a great upside-down cup on the saucer of the earth, the people are in the daylight realm of the right-handed twin. But when the sun slips down in the west at nightfall and the dome lifts to let it escape at the western rim, the people are again in the domain of the left-handed twin—the fearful realm of night.

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Having killed his brother, the right-handed twin returned home to his grandmother. And she met him in anger. She threw the food out of the cabin onto the ground, and said that he was a murderer, for he had killed his brother. He grew angry and told her she had always helped his brother, who had killed their mother. In his anger, he grabbed her by the throat and cut her head off. Her body he threw into the ocean, and her head, into the sky. There “Our Grandmother, the Moon,” still keeps watch at night over the realm of her favorite grandson.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 1:14AM) : Second Opinion more

I think that one of the reasons the right-handed twin decided to kill his brother was so that he could finally have a chance to win over his grandmother’s heart.

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The right-handed twin has many names. One of them is Sapling. It means smooth, young, green and fresh and innocent, straightforward, straight-growing, soft and pliable, teachable and trainable. These are the old ways of describing him. But since he has gone away, he has other names. He is called “He Holds Up the Skies,” “Master of Life,” and “Great Creator.”

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 5:17PM) : In my opinion, I wouldn't call someone who murdered his brother and grandmother "... innocent, straightforward, straight-growing." Murder is rather crooked.
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The left-handed twin also has many names. One of them is Flint. He is called the devious one, the one covered with boils. Old Warty. He is stubborn. He is thought of as being dark in color.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 4:41PM) : Opinion #2- more

It is curious to see how the Native Americans imagine someone evil. “Covered with boils” and “Old Warty” are pretty innocent if you think about it…

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 06 2016 5:11PM) : Devious can mean using sneaky, roundabout methods to reach an end. The left-handed twin often used dirty tactics to keep even and thwart this brother. more

For example, he continued to create animals that would eat his brothers creations, even though the right-handed brother tried to make animals that could not be eaten.

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These two being rule the world and keep an eye on the affairs of men. The righthanded twin, the Master of Life, lives in the Sky World. He is content with the world he helped to create and with his favorite creatures, the humans. The scent of sacred tobacco rising from the earth comes gloriously to his nostrils.

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In the world below lives the left-handed twin. He knows the world of men, and he finds contentment in it. He hears the sounds of warfare and torture, and he finds them good.

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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 06 2016 4:46PM) : imagery-light and dark more

This paragraph, and 48 above it, paint a picture of the right-handed twin being light, while the left-handed is dark and evil. This is sort of weird because the right-handed twin is at least as bad as his brother, seeing as he kills him and his grandmother.

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 3:03AM) : Left handedness more

I get the feeling that the native Americans didn’t look to kindly on left handed people.

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In the daytime, the people have rituals which honor the right-handed twin. Through the daytime rituals they thank the Master of Life. In the nighttime, the people dance and sing for the left-handed twin.

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Construct a Thesis or Argument for the values that are displayed in this text:

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 5:28PM) : Thesis more

The values that are displayed in this text are the core principals of good and evil.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 07 2016 1:43AM) : By showing how the two forces of the world, the good right-handed twin and the bad left-handed twin, balance each other out, the legend convinces people that both are equally necessary to maintain order in the world.
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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 6:41AM) : Thesis more

The values displayed in this story is knowing the difference between good and evil and how it impacted others and the choices they make.

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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 10:11AM) : Thesis more

The values displayed in this story were the differences between right and wrong and the balance in the world between the herbivores and the carnivores.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 3:09AM) : Thesis/Argument for the Values that are Displayed in this Text more

Careless curiosity often leads to disaster, and jealousy and rebellion can cause equal destruction.

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 6:07PM) : Values - more

The values are displayed in the story as the good and the bad.

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Dominic Stewart Dominic Stewart (Sep 15 2016 5:17AM) : The point of the text. more

The Twins represented the good and evil. The good created medicine, berries, deer, the list goes on. The Evil or left handed one created, poison Ivy, Suicide root, Mountain Lions, weasels and list goes on. The story goes to show that even though there are both good and evil, they are both essential for the proper function of the world.

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 18 2016 9:55PM) : I think it almost relates to yin and yang how the two sides of things balances out life.
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2 Points: What is this passage about? Paraphrase it below.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 5:31PM) : What is this passage about? more

It is the Native American’s (Iroquois, I believe, going off of their reference in the first paragraph.) view about the creation of the world, and how the beings amongst the earth got their behavior.

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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 06 2016 5:32PM) : summary more

At first there was no land on the Earth, just ocean.

In the space above the sky a woman was pregnant, she fell to the Earth and landed on a turtle’s back. A muskrat brought dirt from the bottom of the ocean to build land on the turtle’s back. The woman planted roots she had on her when she fell.

She gives birth to a girl who grows up and gives birth to twin sons. She dies, but in her death the world gains corn, beans, squash, and tobacco.

The boys represent “two ways of the world that are in all people.” The right handed twin was described as straightforward and the left handed twin was described as clever and tricky. They create animals, plants, and men. Their duality causes the ecosystem created to be in balance.

Conflict arises between the brothers, but they are too evenly matched for either to triumph. Finally the right handed twin learns of his brothers weakness and kills him with an antler. This causes there to be night as well as day. Later he beheads his grandmother and she becomes the moon.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 07 2016 1:54AM) : This passage is about the creation of the world by a pregnant woman with the roots of the Great Tree and some animals that started on the back of a turtle. more

In the Sky World a woman was pregnant and wanted to eat some of the bark from the Great Tree, which was not to be disturbed. Her husband dug out some roots and made a hole to the sky. He refused to bring his wife back the bark. She went to go get it herself and fell through the hole to the earth with some the roots of the Great Tree. The entire world was covered with water. The birds tried to dive for dirt for the roots to grow in and failed, but the muskrat succeeded. The woman planted the roots on the back of a turtle. She then gave birth to a daughter who also became pregnant. The daughter gave birth to two sons: the right-handed twin, born normally, and the left-handed twin, born through the left armpit which killed their mother. The two brother continually sought to outwit each other by creating different plants and animals until the right-handed brother succeeded in killed the left-handed brother. His grandmother accused him of murder and the right-handed twin cut her head off and threw it into the sky, making the moon. The right-handed brother now lives in the Sky world and the left-hand brother dwells on the earth.

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Christina Crabb Christina Crabb (Sep 07 2016 5:18AM) : What I think. more

I believe this is about how the world was made. And how conflict and all that other stuff happened. All that has happened in this story is typical for a folk tale or whatever it is called.

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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 6:42AM) : Paraphrase and Summary more

This passage was about and represents how the world was made in the beginning. There will be good and evil in the world but we need to choose good and wise decisions that can impact others and spread good things toward others and not be so focused on negative things.

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 7:16AM) : I believe it is about the creation of the world, and how the Celestial's (those of the Sky World) played their hand in creating it. It tells of a familial struggle, which explains that the world was created for happiness but bred conflict.
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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 10:14AM) : What this passage was about. more

This passage was about the relations between good and evil, right and wrong, the balance between the different animals of life, and how every person has their good and bad sides.

The story showed how the world was said to be created and how all the creatures came to life, but the most important thing that it showed was the balance between everything in life.

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Taylor Kline Taylor Kline (Sep 07 2016 11:19PM) : This passage was about the creation of the world. more

This story seems to be the native American story of how the world was made. How one brother who was “good” made all the herbivores and good plants, while the “evil” brother made all carnivores and bad plants.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 5:06AM) : Subject of the Passage and Paraphrase more

This passage is about how if we are not careful, our choices can cause disaster in our lives.

Here is my paraphrase of the story:
When the world was nothing — when it did not even contain humans — but a huge ocean, birds, fish, and other such animals in the ocean, there was a cloud in the sky which was the Sky World. There lived a husband and a wife who were gods. The wife was pregnant, and one day, her curiosity took a hold of her. She accidentally fell out of the Sky World. Fortunately, some birds and creatures saved her life. She created land and the earth we know today. Soon, she gave birth to a baby girl. That girl grew up alongside her mother and the plants and the animals. When the daughter had grown into a woman, a man appeared out of nowhere. The daughter fainted, and the man laid two arrows on her. The first arrow was sharp and dangerous, and the second arrow was blunt and safe. The woman became pregnant with twin boys. The twin who was right-handed was responsible, but the twin who was left-handed was rebellious. The left-handed twin tried to be birthed a different way, and he killed his mother. His right-handed brother was filled with anger because of this. He had tried to warn his brother not to be so defiant of as natural a process as birth. The twins grew up with their grandmother. They created clay animals which became full of life, becoming real animals. Meanwhile, the brothers grew more and more hateful towards each other with each passing day. They finally decided to have competitions against each other, such as gambling, to end their rivalry. However, they could not defeat each other until one day when the right-handed brother figured out how to kill his left-handed brother. Once he had killed him, the boy came back home to his grandmother. She was angry, though. This infuriated the boy, and he killed his grandmother as well. However, neither the grandmother nor the left-handed twin died. The left-handed twin now rules over the night. The grandmother’s head became the moon, proudly watching over her grandson’s kingdom. The right-handed twin now rules over the day. This is how the world came to be.

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 6:13PM) : What is this story abut more

This story is about how the Earth was created. It tells about how there is good and bad and how it acts or how it would act if it were a person. It tells how people can react towards the good and bad.

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 09 2016 7:50AM) : Summary more

This was about a wife who was living in the Sky World with her husband. She tried to get bark off of a tree because her husband wouldn’t get it for her. She then fell through a hole. She gave birth to a daughter. Her daughter gave birth to twins and died when one of the twins came out of her armpit. They were in battle with each other which represented good vs. evil. As someone would die, something would be created. When the daughter died, food was created. When the brother dies, day and night is created. When the mother dies the moon is created.

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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 18 2016 9:57PM) : I think this whole story is a native story about the creation of the world.
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2 Points: What values do you think this illustrates are present in the culture?

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William Seibel William Seibel (Sep 06 2016 4:49PM) : values? more

From a values perspective, this story really confused me. Throughout the story (even after his death!) the left-handed twin is described as deceptive, violent, and perhaps even evil. However, he is never really shown as being any of these, and instead his brother is the murderer.

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Cheyenne Anderson Cheyenne Anderson (Sep 06 2016 5:41PM) : What values do you think this illustrates are present in the culture? more

Other than the common theme of love and hate (good and evil) their is an unspoken value of cooperation if only the being has good intention. The cooperation between the beings of each world are shown through extraordinary situations, like the woman being saved by a raft of birds or the creatures of the sea trying to help her find some soil. I believe this is a theme that would apply to the Native American culture. It shows that no matter how big the situation, if everyone is willing to work together that anything can happen. That’s what is ironic about the introduction of the twins, being they are the eternal struggle of uncooperativeness that is necessary for survival.

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Kaleb Arnold Kaleb Arnold (Sep 07 2016 1:55AM) : The values of balance of good and evil are present in this culture. The two are necessary to keep the world in working order.
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Nathan Veloz Nathan Veloz (Sep 07 2016 6:44AM) : What are the values? more

The values are mostly about the equal amount of good and evil that is in this world and learning the difference between the two and trying to show love towards others and being positive.

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James Marion James Marion (Sep 07 2016 7:17AM) : The values involve the love of nature, that rivalry breeds advancement, and that each side of a coin is as valuable as the other side.
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Aislynn Martindale Aislynn Martindale (Sep 07 2016 10:18AM) : Values. more

The values that I found to stand out most in this story was the balance between right and wrong as well as how they worked together to keep the world from going wrong. For example, the right handed brother creating the herbivores and the left handed brother creating the carnivores. At the moment of the animals’ creations, the brothers believed that they were just trying to out do each other, when in reality they were creating the perfect world in which the animals would live in unison. The herbivores kept the world from producing too many plants while the carnivores kept the herbivores from eating too many of the plants.

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Katherine Hohns Katherine Hohns (Sep 08 2016 5:16AM) : Values more

I think that the values that this story illustrates are present in the culture are:

1. Curiosity is better left unexplored.
2. Rebellion will be faced with punishment.
3. Selfishness will result in destruction.

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Kelley Bateman Kelley Bateman (Sep 08 2016 6:22PM) : Values more

This story illustrates good and evil. It shows that without these two things, life wouldn’t necessarily be life. You have to have the good, the bad, the good in the bad, and the bad in the good.

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Carissa Ritchie Carissa Ritchie (Sep 09 2016 7:42AM) : This illustrates the values of good and evil. It starts out with the wife who was wanting to eat the bark. Her husband didn't want her to because he wanted to do what was right. Then the twins represented good vs. evil. [Edited]
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Samuel Tucker Samuel Tucker (Sep 18 2016 9:58PM) : I think it is about how without each force one of the forces will grow out of control and so we need each side to have balance.
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