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The 2016 Vice Presidential Debate

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(Oct 04 2016 8:36PM) : RNC claims victory before debate begins more
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mr Samuel Reed (Oct 04 2016 9:14PM) : Media Manipulation. [Edited] more

that slip up was not a mistake

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(Oct 04 2016 9:01PM) : It's like college football.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:02PM) : It's working here. They just started.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:05PM) : every time I comment the stream pauses
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(Oct 04 2016 10:51PM) : Then you press play. It's a feature! Maybe we need to add instructions.
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(Oct 05 2016 10:06AM) : Our thinking was that we don't want people to lose their place in the live stream when they stop to make a comment... current approach lets you comment and then pick up where you left off. more

As always, we welcome suggestions for handling things differently, and/or making the instructions clearer!

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(Oct 05 2016 11:05AM) : NO Problem more

I didn’t mind stopping and then restarting. The only problem is that it makes it a little harder to catch up to what others are saying. A bit choppy, but that is just something to get used to. I guess what I was thinking was that it would be more like the chat function in an online video game, but I could always open up a chat in a separate window or just create a hashtag and use a twitter client to share. This is a really powerful mix of sync and async. thanks.

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(Oct 04 2016 9:04PM) : Let's go!
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(Oct 04 2016 9:07PM) : Okiedokie
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(Oct 04 2016 9:06PM) : 9 sections! the circles of hell
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(Oct 04 2016 9:06PM) : She's making the stakes high.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:07PM) : Wow. love this story. Talk about "ethos." [Edited]
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(Oct 04 2016 9:08PM) : my inauthentic meter just pegged
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(Oct 04 2016 9:08PM) : He's come for a fight!
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(Oct 04 2016 9:10PM) : he is rightfully humble
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(Oct 04 2016 9:10PM) : Jumping into the problems at the get-go.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:11PM) : wtf a war on coal!
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(Oct 04 2016 9:11PM) : Ethos
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(Oct 04 2016 9:12PM) : I was born in Louisville and raised in Indiana across the river in Jeffersonville IN.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:13PM) : Captain Humble
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(Oct 04 2016 9:12PM) : Does this small-town boy stuff work?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:15PM) : doubtful, he is one fo the most hated govs in Indiana history
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(Oct 04 2016 9:14PM) : He skates past the unfvorables
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(Oct 04 2016 9:14PM) : I love this contrast.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:16PM) : weak v strong
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(Oct 04 2016 9:18PM) : I bet trump is hated as much in NYC as Pence is in IN
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(Oct 04 2016 9:15PM) : Every answer slams Trump. Wow. Can he keep this up?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:16PM) : Interruptions are sooo... tricky.
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mr Samuel Reed (Oct 04 2016 9:28PM) : Stop interrupting more

It makes you look rude

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(Oct 04 2016 9:19PM) : Kaine plays fast and loose with Hillary's accomplishments, mostly exaggerated.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:18PM) : Shaking your head isn't an argument.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:22PM) : OK, Paul. This is an unmoderarted muddle but NC appears to be working, pence is a moron and kaine is an apologist. Sighs all around and a good night. Thanks for setting this up, proof of concept, huzzah.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:21PM) : There's a plan? Where?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:23PM) : You're hired or You're fired... does this slogan stuff work?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:24PM) : I think this has a lot of meat -- a plan -- and a good slogan to sum it up.
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(Oct 04 2016 9:26PM) : Smug, dismissive. Really?!
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(Oct 04 2016 9:28PM) : Ah there is a moderator... she just has to be prompted.
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:25PM) : Muh tax returns
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:27PM) : "How will you protect social security?" -- "first we'll protect social security and then pay more money"
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(Oct 04 2016 9:31PM) : This needs a fact check... what is Pence's voting record on social security?
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:33PM) : Couldn't find much in 1 minute more

Voted YES on raising 401(k) limits & making pension plans more portable. (May 2001)
Rated 22% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. (Dec 2003)

http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence.htm

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(Oct 04 2016 9:32PM) : Hard to imagine community policing in places like the Bronx or such communities of concentrated poverty.
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:31PM) : Tim Kaine more

Tim Kaine: “Stop and Frisk polarizes the community.”

What, like Clinton and Obama race-baiting and pushing pro-BLM rhetoric?

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(Oct 04 2016 9:34PM) : Pathos
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(Oct 04 2016 9:35PM) : Ethos ... what are we being set up for?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:38PM) : Wow. Pence just made clear that "community policing" = "law and order" Is community policing real or is it a cover for enforcing unequal policing in poor neighborhoods?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:39PM) : More words "criminal justice reform." Is that the same as "stop and frisk?"
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(Oct 04 2016 9:42PM) : Such a La-la plan on deportation.
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:42PM) : Insult-Driven Campaign more

According to Clinton:
Some 25% of America is deplorable.
Some 12% are “basement dwellers”
Some 13% are are Super-predators.

Who exactly does Clinton favor in America?

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(Oct 04 2016 9:43PM) : Swift and clear. Why doesn't this stuff stick?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:46PM) : This is hard... who is Kaine debating Pence or Trump?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:47PM) : "I can't imagine how you could defend that?" Then there is no answer... This is starting to feel repetitive.
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:48PM) : Clinton more

Clinton has had years to fix her Arab Spring, but instead has squandered it stealing American tax dollars and disrupting elections overseas. She wouldn’t change this as president.

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(Oct 04 2016 9:49PM) : Really?! Would we allow personal attacks like this in a junior high school debate?
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(Oct 04 2016 9:52PM) : Okay. Fact-check needed here. Second time that Pence says that it's Clinton's fault that we did not negotiate "forces of agreement"-- or whatever it is... Is that true? Kaine puts this back on Bush.
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:53PM) : The Orlando shooter was 2nd generation more

Stopping terrorist flow now will prevent terrorist attacks 15-20 years down the line.

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(Oct 04 2016 9:55PM) : Trying to draw a stark picture, but is this true?
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 9:56PM) : The Democrats see what's happening in Europe, stick their fingers in their ears, and vow to accept more refugees. more

They won’t do tough vetting. They can’t. They don’t understand statistics or the likelihood of anyone being a terrorist. They see the Migrant Crisis in Europe and fail to see how it could happen in America. Democrats are sacrificing Americans! And now Kaine is saying that we can vet them, we just need increased surveillance! What a joke!

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(Oct 04 2016 9:57PM) : Doubling down on an unconstitutional position?!
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(Oct 04 2016 9:58PM) : An "intelligence surge" sounds scary.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:01PM) : What an amazing question.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:02PM) : "lean in"?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:04PM) : So we going to protect the Syrian people by bombing them?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:06PM) : Establishing that zone would require control of the skies wouldn't it... and that makes us responsible to enforce a no-fly zone. Isn't all of this dangerous? Why can't we have a follow up question here?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:07PM) : Attacking Trump and Pence at this point on their crush with Putin?! Where's the plan to help Syria?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:09PM) : That's a powerful context/contrast.
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Connor Landay (Oct 04 2016 10:03PM) : Maybe Trump hasn't funded the military through taxes but he hasn't stolen them either like Clinton through her treasonous Clinton Foundation.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:11PM) : Really?! It's fear-Russia still/again?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:11PM) : Wow... almost a follow-up question about the safe zones.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:14PM) : Still waiting... on an answer for how the safe zones work. They really don't know, it seems to me. I think the moderator should press this.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:16PM) : Nice... 6 times.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:17PM) : Okay... did he say it or not?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:19PM) : Does denying things that are on the record work?
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(Oct 04 2016 10:20PM) : Finally... this issue of Trump's business concerns. I think this needs more exposure.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:26PM) : I wonder why this line seems so effective: Americans need to worry about whether Donald Trump will be worrying about America's bottom line or his own bottom line.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:30PM) : The Clinton Foundation!
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(Oct 04 2016 10:32PM) : Fair comparison, seems to me.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:36PM) : Faith and public policy tensions.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:38PM) : Amazing Ethos here.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:41PM) : Is this the difference between a conservative and a liberal: conservatives have some issues (e.g. sanctity of life) that they won't allow the general polity to be tolerant about.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:43PM) : Abortion is one of the most important issues on Letters to the Next President and with high school students on Youth Voices.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:45PM) : This does seem to be a fundamental difference.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:47PM) : Wow... This is powerful reminder of Trump's words.
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(Oct 04 2016 10:52PM) : Does this list of economic problems ring true?

DMU Timestamp: September 28, 2016 13:52

Added October 04, 2016 at 9:19pm by mr Reed
Title: War on Coal

Interesting framing. Why is war always a reference for trying to solve problems. i.e War on Drugs. etc.

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Interesting framing. Why is war always a reference for trying to solve problems. i.e War on Drugs. etc.

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(Oct 05 2016 11:08AM) : HRC has never met a war she didn't like. You know, doesn't want to appear weak.
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Eternity is in love with the creations of time.

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Eternity is in love with the creations of time.

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