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Jan-06-17 Later Questions

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In addition to the conversations attached to each of these questions, you might look to see if an article at the LRNG Knowledge Base might help.

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Where does the work that students create go after they submit in LRNG?

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(Oct 24 2016 8:47AM) : At the bottom of the Show and Prove section of each XP, there is a link to Create a Post. Each of these posts goes to a youth's account at LRNG.org, which is publicly available. Youth can only add one item in each post. [Edited] more Tags: badges, assessment, lrng, google docs

Youth can upload any one of these:

—one image or one document from their computers
—one link to a YouTube or a Vimeo video or a link to a Website (or anything else that has a link, such as a comment on hypothes.is or NowComment or a Google Document)
—one paragraph that can include links. Youth can upload about ten lines of text here.

These limitations and the lack of a place here for students to reflect on the work that they are posting pushed me to use Google Docs as the main submission tool.

I ask students to write about their work and their learning in a Google Document, making as many links and including as many images as they want to. We also have been developing guides for this reflective writing.

Students also need to learn how to make their Docs public before they add a link to the LRNG Show and Prove posts. I made a short screencast for this that’s up at YouTube: https://youtu.be/jxZWoDm9CKM and Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/185374485

When youth use the “Webpage” option (it should really say “Link”) in a Show and Prove post, they can add more reflective writing around the artifacts they are submitting, and they maintain control over them because they (and we) can continue to edit the Google Document.

The downside of this is that later for the badge assessor or opportunity-giver, it takes one more click away from the badge to find the youth’s work.

Still, I’d recommend Show and Prove instructions like the one here: https://goo.gl/nKLgy9

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Aram Kabodian (Oct 24 2016 9:33AM) : Note: Show and Prove in the student's view is "Submission Requirements" in our LRNG screen. Also, their work goes on the student's log in area.
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After a Playlist is in use can it be edited?

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(Oct 24 2016 9:00AM) : Not yet. There is talk of making this possible in the future. more

One workaround that I’ve been using is to leave a draft of my work in drafts. This almost works. One problem is that links to resources doesn’t copy when you make a duplicate. Still if I duplicate my draft before I publish it, when I find that I’ve made a spelling error or some other small thing, it’s easier to delete the published XP, Playlist, or Badge, and replace it with the drafts that I had left behind.

I don’t always do this. Sometimes I’m rushing, and it will make for a more confusing set of items in our commonly held list of work.

The real solution that will allow us to make small changes after something is published is coming soon, LRNG promises.

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Can a Playlist be modified as contemporary issues arise?

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(Oct 24 2016 9:10AM) : I'm taking this as a different issue than the question about making small changes (discussed above). I think that an LRGN Playlist can be a more unchanging prompt that points to resources on Youth Voices that we can keep changing often and forever. more

So, one example might be that in LRNG we ask students to respond to the events in Syria over the past two weeks. At the end of that prompt we can ask them to use videos from news organizations, newspaper articles, NPR stories, analysis articles from magazines and journals… and we can ask them to choose from and to annotate the sources that we have collected for them on a “Updates from Syria” page that we have created at Youth Voices. Any of the above media can be embedded here.

What’s possible here also is to have a collection of media and texts that are easy for youth to annotate, comment on, and discuss using hypothes.is and NowComment.

Worth pointing out for the Show and Prove section: Each annotations in hypothes.is and comment in NowComment has a unique URL that a youth can list in a reflective letter. For example: “Here are my five best annotations on what took place in Syria in early November 2016.”

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How can we create a badge?

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(Oct 24 2016 9:13AM) : This one has answers in the Knowledge Base: https://lrng-support.groovehq.com/knowledge_base/topics/how-do-i-create-a-badge?from_search=true more

We will also make an open Google Drive folder where we will collect images for others to use.

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Can XPs be remixed or re-used? And if they can be remixed, is there a way to make sure the original still exists?

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(Oct 24 2016 10:37AM) : XP's, Playlist, and Badges can be duplicated. You need a unique title on each duplicated item in order to publish it. That's how we are sure that the original item remains intact.
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Who reviews student work to issue a badge?

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(Jan 06 2017 4:25PM) : We do! We will be organizing people to assess badges this February - May.
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How many XPs go into a Playlist? On average.

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Aram Kabodian (Oct 24 2016 9:46AM) : I'm hearing that 3 XPs in an average, 5 seems to be too much...students would get lost and forget the purpose of the playlist
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How many Resources make up an XP? On average.

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(Jan 06 2017 4:25PM) : Three? But this will look different with the new interface.
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What's the size & scale of a Playlist?

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(Jan 06 2017 4:26PM) : I like to think that a youth could finish a Playlist in a week of working on it for an hour every day, with each XP representing an hour of concentrated work.
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Added January 06, 2017 at 9:48am by Paul Allison
Title: Later Questions

Is there a badge creator fairie? It looks like we want the badges to be uniform, but I'm not sure how to do this and make mine fit the rest of the system. Should I plunge ahead or with whatever I can do? Where can I ask for help?

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(Jan 06 2017 10:00AM) : If you love working with Photoshop or the few online imitators (https://pixlr.com/editor/ is my favorite), then by all means, forge ahead! Please start with https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B52TLTNub3z9bVR0djR1UVo5VTA/view?usp=sharing OR contact Paul: more

E-mail Paul Allison allisonpr@gmail.com, and I will be happy to design the graphic part of your badge for you. I’ll just do it, and put it in place. You should complete the other boxes on the badge creation tool, however. We’re all happy to help with those matters too, but we’d rather see you spending time on getting the competencies right for your badge than on graphic design (unless you love it!).

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With published XPs - can we just make edits without renaming them?

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(Jan 06 2017 4:10PM) : Once and XP is published, you can't edit it anymore. You can, however, duplicate it, then archive the published one. Make edits on the new draft, then use the same title. You then have to add the new XP with the same title to the playlist. more

You’ll also have to do all of this with a Playlist that is published as well. It’s not so hard: Duplicate (This creates a draft with a name that includes the date); Archive published Playlist; Re-title the draft Playlist using the original title. And by the way, this ability to use the same title is new — only since late-November, I think.

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“Resources” do not get duplicated. Do you know of any work arounds?

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(Jan 06 2017 4:11PM) : There is no work around on this. It has been corrected in the new version that is supposed to be out on January 11, 2017.
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For one of the "Show and Proves," we discussed learners sharing research topics, but not creating another Youth Voices post. Instead, we’d like to have a shared conversation on Youth Voices or padlet. Does this work or does something else make sense/

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(Jan 06 2017 4:20PM) : Let me work on this. There's no reason we can't set up a family of pages on Youth Voices similar to Room for Debate http://www.youthvoices.live/room4debate/ and with similar instructions to students: https://youtu.be/1jrduzJeJUM [Edited] more

What do you think? This is a way for youth to start a page that collects other youths’ posts about a research project. They just need to write an introduction, set up the page with a good question and a tag, then invite others to post to their research page with that tag. And we (teachers an editors) can collect these pages onto a “Our Research Questions” page where youth can find each others questions. See if you can put your head around this: http://www.youthvoices.live/research/

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We’re working on adding in more tagging to our playlists to note specific conversations on Youth Voices.

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(Jan 06 2017 4:22PM) : I'm not sure where or how this is happening. This might also change with the new format? Can someone say where you are doing this?
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Carrie Nobis (Jan 11 2017 7:46PM) : In our "show and prove," we have been directing students to use specific, and sometimes more than one, tag in their YV posts. (i.e. "please tag your post with #geneticengineering and #gutreaction"). Is this okay?
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Aram Kabodian (Jan 11 2017 7:58PM) : I will be adding this bias tag to one of my xps: http://www.youthvoices.live/?s=bias
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Some "Show and Proves" note that learners should upload their work. Where does that work go? We think in LRNG, but wanted to check. Is it ok to upload work in LRNG? Should we send all work to Youth Voices? Also, can curriculum creators upload content on LRNG or is that an eventual roll out?

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(Jan 06 2017 4:23PM) : When students submit work, they can submit what LRNG calls a Webpage, but which is really a field for a URL. As much as possible we want to encourage posting and commenting on Youth Voices, and adding links to LRNG. [Edited] more

As for adding content. There’s a new space on LRNG that will allow us create educator-facing playlists. Let’s put our uploads there.

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Carrie Nobis (Jan 11 2017 7:50PM) : If it's the preferred method, would it be appropriate to have students upload their annotated bibliographies to YV? They might be useful to other students, but they probably wouldn't stimulate a lot of discussion.
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