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EDU 807 - Week 6 - Education Technology: Revolutionizing Personalized Learning & Student Assessment Group 2


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Elizabeth Johanson Elizabeth Johanson (Jul 10 2021 12:46AM) : Education and technology are the best things that happened to the human history, students need to know how the education and technology is helping them in their life and making it easier for them to do everything they want without much human effort.
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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:09PM) : First Question from Moderator more

What are private companies doing to encourage innovation in the education area, and what are you finding works best, in terms of personalizing learning and assessing students?

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 12 2018 12:39PM) : Interesting more

I find some issues that have yet to be solved with the push to individualized self paced learning. I can see its benefits, but it really lacks the ability for the students to develop those vital “soft-skills” that universities and businesses are demanding from their new applicants. On his other point, I agree with the frequent, yet appropriate, assessment of students to help with interventions and assisted learning. These assessments just need to be in multiple formats beyond testing.

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 15 2018 8:00PM) : soft skills more

That’s an interesting connection! Do you think self-pacing detracts from those soft skills, or maybe doesn’t do anything to develop them?

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Sarah Lewis Sarah Lewis (Feb 13 2018 11:31AM) : Issues more

The biggest I’ve seen regarding private companies roles in innovation in education is cost and the ability of an institution to not just say, “do this”, but to have the educator learn how to use it and apply it in an individualized manner. Theoretically, the idea should be perfect, but for an educator to be able to still control the learning environment with students at different levels in their learning, I can imagine can be quite the challenge. I also equate it to government telling teachers how to teach, if the private companies are made of current and former educators than I can see there being actual buy-in but without that, I can see some push back happening quick.

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 14 2018 9:10AM) : Pacing more

This is a conversation we were having last week—how tightly should pacing be controlled? Here, Hughes argues for self-pacing, but frequent feedback and interventions, which to me is a fairly recent combination of ideas in education. Digital tools make self-paced curriculum more possible than a traditional classroom.

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:16PM) : Pause and summarize... more

… how would you describe Mr. Hughes’ description of “personalized learning?”

What are the values and assumptions embedded in his description of personalized learning?

Think about Coiro’s argument… in this case, is “personalized” learning the same as or different from “personal” learning?

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 12 2018 12:52PM) : Personalized Learning more

Mr. Hughes described personalized learning as being able to provide additional support and products when needed depending on the student. Extra help for those sections the student is struggling and advancement in areas that the student has mastered. This theoretically enables the learner to constantly be challenged but not overwhelmed. This is very different from personal learning which allows the learner to control their learning process. The learner gets to follow what intrigues them and engages their interest most at that time. Mr. Hughes is describing a personalized approach that is determined by an instructor to address what they see as the needs of the student.

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 14 2018 9:14AM) : Feedback more

One embedded assumption is the value of instructor feedback. There have been lots of studies about student motivation, and one of the findings that occurs again and again is the fact that students place a high value instructor feedback. Even in studies that try to “push” peer feedback, those peers still often find instructor feedback to be more valuable. The fact that education executives from the private sector place a premium on feedback should be somewhat heartening to those who are wary of ed corporations.

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Ashley McBride Ashley McBride (Feb 15 2018 1:07PM) : Personalized Learing more

Mr. Hughes describes personalized learning as a targeted way to catch students up by trying to pinpoint where the holes in understanding are and filling those holes, but he is explaining it as if it were best done as an addition to what students are doing at their current level. The assumption he makes in this format is that the time is there for students to do this. My first thought was, when will that hour happen? Maybe it is just me being cynical, but I know if a high school student were asked to attend additional classes that would be a non starter unless there was plenty of support from home. Considering the kids who usually need these types of interventions have less of that for various reasons could make that type of personalization hard. I feel like he is discussing personalized tutoring, not personalized learning.

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 15 2018 8:03PM) : communities of learning more

I’ve read a bit about communities of learning that really take advantage of technology outside of the traditional structure of education, but it seems those really have to be “grassroots” in order to have any effect. For instance, my nephew does lots of research about World War II on his own and with a certain clique in his school, but if I tried to organize it in some way, it would kill it immediately.

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:23PM) : Second Question from Moderator more

What is the Department of Education doing to expand the adoption of technology and education, and how can the Federal Government encourage new models of personalized learning and student assessment?

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 12 2018 1:00PM) : Meh more

I am hearing a lot of things that the government is doing, but they seem like the same thing that has always been done. Tell people about this, give grants for technology use, make this more available. I am just not sure they are going to get the results that they want with this same “in the box” thinking.

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Sarah Lewis Sarah Lewis (Feb 13 2018 11:54AM) : Change more

I agree with Todd’s point and think the overall issue is how resistant humans are to change. The federal government can set basic standards but for those to be used/achieved by overall 50 million students is, in my mind, an unrealistic goal (https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372).). Technology is such a broad idea, some schools don’t even have tvs in every room or enough functioning computers for their students. I understand her statement about the school in NC that was successful without a lot of funding but I can only imagine the amount of work and time they put into it. Realistic expectations are key, and I think setting basics by the government can be helpful, but funding is a huge factor. Also, making sure students know the basics, like the first gentleman speaking mentioned, some students are behind in 8th grade because of something they missed in 5th. Starting from the very beginning, before thinking about how students should be using technology in high school is a proper process to go through.

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 14 2018 9:30AM) : standards more

At the Federal level, I think the most appropriate action would be to put forth standards and benchmarks about educational technology to improve communication and evaluation. Recent federal programs that attempt radical change in the funding model of education (Race to the Top, No Child Left Behind) tend to have unintended consequences for curriculum.

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Ashley McBride Ashley McBride (Feb 15 2018 9:31PM) : Federal Innitiatives more

I will say that I loved how she mentioned that the federal government knows that multiple choice bubble tests and the approaches that come with it are not serving our students. Yet, somehow the school I worked at gave 4 different standardized tests today to the bulk of the students in the school. I have yet to see the scale back on those tests. Also the addition of grants is great, but what tends to happen is the grant money runs out and the district is left to figure out how to fund a project or program. Many times it gets dropped because of the lack of money.

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Sarah Lewis Sarah Lewis (Feb 19 2018 8:15AM) : Bubble Tests more

Couldn’t agree more, Ashley! Even in medical school, our standardized tests are facilitated and created by a company that has zero interest in producing actual productive and intelligent doctors, rather they are in it for the money. Students are becoming more and more aware of this and the frustrating is growing. We used to use more homegrown exams but then we couldn’t compare ourselves to other schools so admin chose to move towards the more standardized versions. If you see a scale back at any, district congratulate them :)

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:34PM) : Third Question from Moderator more

What do you see as the opportunities for scalability, and then also, what are the risks and
barriers to scaling up innovative local projects?

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 14 2018 9:24AM) : engagement mechanism more

He says that it’s very hard to create an engagement mechanism in an area like gaming. It seems like the key to scaling upward in this area would be to pinpoint these engagement mechanisms and make them part of the game designer’s toolkit. As every gamer knows, it often takes one fundamental flaw in a game to make a gamer turn it off completely. Every game is a very complex ecosystem with lots of moving parts. Trying to make them fun is one challenge, but trying to make them educational is a challenge within a challenge. The benefit, as he points out, is that you then have a perfect test environment that produces valuable data about the learning process as the users navigate the game itself.

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 14 2018 10:27AM) : Gaming more

I agree, it will be very difficult to create a really good educational game. But I feel in our society and with the amounts of money we are currently pouring into certain parts of education, we should be able to come up with the “toolkit” that you were talking about to build high quality entertaining and educational games.

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Robert Norman Robert Norman (Feb 15 2018 7:57PM) : Toolkits are much easier to come by these days more

One of the most exhilarating things about technology is that it very often spreads these kind of toolkits. If you go to Google and search for software to make video games, you can find some very complex tools available to the consumer, many times for free. And for each of those tools, you will find hundreds of YouTube videos about design. It almost makes me think that there is some sort of innate teaching/designing impulse that waits for a delivery mechanism like the internet to come along to distribute it.

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Ashley McBride Ashley McBride (Feb 15 2018 9:39PM) : Flexibility more

I think for something to be scalable it has to be flexible especially when we are talking about education. A program that focuses on personalization, individualization, or differentiation cannot be the same across the board. It needs to have a few pillars that are set as a guide and from there you have to allow the local experts (teachers of the other students) to make it work for them. This does two things 1. it truly allows for something to not only grow but to grow and fill the needs where it is growing and 2. it makes those who are implementing the opportunity have some ownership and ownership equals buy in which means a better chance of success.

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:32PM) : Pause and summarize... more

… Ms. Weiss describes a number of initiatives that the DoE is engaged in to help lessen the effects of the digital divide. here, unpack the words that she uses and share your thinking on what she means by: access, equity, innovation, partnerships, or other key terms you heard in her description.

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Sarah Lewis Sarah Lewis (Feb 13 2018 12:09PM) : Terms more

She uses the terms grants, funding, and economy quite frequently which goes against her argument that the school in NC was successful without a lot of funding. I appreciate that a small rural school is able to do what they did, I can’t imagine what Boston or NY city schools would have to go through to implement technologies into their classrooms. She also uses the term novel a bit. I don’t think that we as a country are unaware of how to integrate technology, however, we run into the problem that half the students in a school may react well and half might not (leading back to individualized learning/asynch characteristics). If we want to lean towards not teaching students like robots, integrating technology needs to be looked at the same way.

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:39PM) : Pause and summarize... more

Given Mr. Popovic’s contention that we could look at “education as a data-driven science” and that games hold the potential for a “self-adaptive way of
game discovering,” what ideas and assumptions are evident in his description?

What does this approach assume about teachers and teaching? About students and learning?

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 12 2018 1:18PM) : Really Cool more

I think his ideas about educational games has a lot of potential. It is incorporating the idea of personal learning with game learning to create an experience to meet the needs of all the students. I don’t know what this assumes about the teachers, but it assumes engagement and self interest is a great way to get students to learn and utilize new material.

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Sarah Lewis Sarah Lewis (Feb 13 2018 1:05PM) : Sports more

So this isn’t an education reference, but in terms of being a high school or college football player (the game) the athlete (the student) has A LOT to learn, and they tend to do so because of the intrinsic motivation they have. If someone doesn’t like football they’re not going to take the time to learn routes and formations. Relating to education, I learned basic math with number munchers and loved every second of playing it. It was a way of looking at something to learn as more than just numbers or letters, it applied to something most kids at the time used/played with, video games. I would assume this applicability has changed a bit with different technologies and almost all students access to phones and tablets. In terms of assumptions of educators, educating educators needs to be done the same way we expect students to learn. If educators are not learning about games in the classroom, the conversation needs to start back at that point to move forward for the student.

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Ashley McBride Ashley McBride (Feb 17 2018 10:08AM) : Still dealing with most likely accounts more

I wonder, keep in mind that I am not a computer scientist and I don’t pretend to know how alga rhythms work, but if a computer program is set up to make decisions based on the data that was put in by the programmer couldn’t that be off too? I mean, think about the numbers of times that programmers have programmed something and it turns out the program itself is bias, sexist, or racist because of the type of data fed into it in the first place. I just don’t think that this approach would work for all kids as he seems to think it would. I could see this for a lesson or unit maybe, but an entire course no. This is one of the reasons why I refuse to take “at your own pace” type classes that don’t have a facilitator. Computer programs are only as good as those who are programming them.

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Sarah Lewis Sarah Lewis (Feb 19 2018 8:48AM) : Programming more

Agreed, I think Robert shared a video last semester of a skateboarding game that produced some pretty chaotic moments. Some form of a facilitator is necessary and having the right ratio of student to educator needs to be kept in mind as well. You don’t want an entire class losing interest because something stops working and there is no one there to assist them

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:40PM) : Fourth Question from Moderator more

what are the key elements of a digital learning environment that fosters personalized learning?

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:43PM) : Pause and summarize... more

Given Ms. Zolt’s ideas on “personalized learning and
assessment” what are her core values and assumptions? How does her perspective align with/differ from the other speakers, especially Hughes and Popovic?

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 14 2018 10:17AM) : Collaboration more

Ms Zolt seems to focus more on collaboration and engagement as core values for learning. This is very different from the previous speakers who where talking more about having students working on their own to receive learning tailored for their needs. Ms. Holtz is taking the personalized idea of having a one-on-one collaborator for students to discuss learning and topics. I think this idea is great, but extremely difficult to pull off on a large scale.

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:45PM) : Question to all the panelists from the moderator... more

What are the policy barriers that you currently see, either at the state or the Federal level? And then, what are the policy recommendations that you think would help enable some of the innovations that’s we’re talking about?

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:47PM) : Pause and summarize... more

… one last time…

Based on the policy ideas each panelist shared — and the language that they used to describe those policies (24/7, personalized, etc), what is your current thinking about assessment and educational technology?

Who do you agree with the most? The least? Why?

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William Callan William Callan (Feb 14 2018 10:24AM) : Extremes more

This panel really has some extremes as far as their focus for learning. I think the best is a mix of the panel. None of them really covers all the bases and the best solution is going to incorporate some of the self directed personalized learning, but the solution must also incorporate activities that bolster the soft skills of collaboration, communication, and critical thinking. All of those are extremely important and very difficult to incorporate into the “personalized self-learning” format.

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Dr. Troy Hicks Dr. Troy Hicks (Jan 30 2017 1:52PM) : Q/A from audience more

At this point, I encourage you to keep listening, but you do not have to write any additional responses to the video… unless, of course, one or more of the questions strike you as particularly relevant and interesting.

There is one particularly interesting comment from Ms. Weiss about technology use in Finland, which will likely be of interest to those of you who are K-12 educators.

DMU Timestamp: January 27, 2017 00:44

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