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Episode 1: The Past Is Present: Blindspot

Author: KalaLea

KalaLea. “Episode 1: The Past Is Present: Blindspot.” WNYC Studios, 28 May 2021, https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/blindspot/articles/past-is-present.


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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 7:42AM) : Click the link below to play another version of this episode. it will open in a new tab. [Edited] more
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Miyreasa M Miyreasa M (May 17 2023 4:51AM) : I think it's sad that they came home to find out they were robbed. and that she feels like she has to worry all the time now.It's sad that the people who are supposed to help didn't.

May 28, 2021

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KALALEA: This episode of Blindspot: Tulsa Burning contains descriptions of graphic violence and racially offensive language.

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When I was about seven years old, our house was robbed. It was on Halloween, we just got home after trick-or-treating… And my mom, she unlocked the front door, and then stopped, and took a really big breath.

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Janiya H Janiya H (Mar 17 2022 10:06PM) : its sad that they came from trick and treating and enjoying their night to coming home to see that they got robbed
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Samayah W Samayah W (Mar 01 2022 10:20AM) : its crazy they came from a fun night to having to deal with some messed up stuff
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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 02 2022 9:01AM) : Right like that so sad to come home to that
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Lisvez V Lisvez V (Mar 03 2022 5:15PM) : yes like that's so sad.
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Kyla C Kyla C (Mar 11 2022 10:12AM) : Its crazy how they experience this at a young age like i cant imagine this like this really can turn into your worst nightmare
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Kylah R Kylah R (Mar 18 2022 10:40AM) : . more

yea i agree

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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 10:06AM) : Yes thats crazy to imagine at that young age that something like that will take place right in front of you maybe scaring you for life.
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Jupree W Jupree W (Mar 04 2022 11:30AM) : This is really crazy how your night can really just get bad in a couple of seconds.
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Jaylen C Jaylen C (Mar 04 2022 12:01PM) : This is so sad to hear I wish people didn't have to worry about stuff like this.
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Daniel C Daniel C (Mar 04 2022 12:13PM) : just living proof that anything can go north to south
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Emily V Emily V (Mar 04 2022 12:16PM) : Yes it’s really crazy how a fun night can turn into your worst nightmare.
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Ahmir R Ahmir R (Mar 09 2022 7:40AM) : Literally, Imagine having all of that happiness that was there just a minute ago fade away quickly because all of your thing have been taken from you.
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Landan D Landan D (Mar 10 2022 9:22AM) : Sad. more

Exactly so sad to just have it ripped away

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 11:24AM) : it's crazy more

this is just a random thoughts but I feel like when something goes deeply wrong or bad things happen , either black people or black families completely shuts down and never talks about it again. But I feel like this is why it be so much tension in black families

I remember seeing our stuff thrown all over the place.

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Kylah R Kylah R (Mar 03 2022 8:45AM) : i more

i remember when me and my mom walked into our house and we say our stuff was moved around and stuff was missing just the thought of someone being in our house was scary

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It looked like they took everything: our furniture, stereo equipment, even the television. But most importantly to me, they took the pearl necklace my aunt had given me for my birthday.

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Sianni S Sianni S (Mar 01 2022 8:48AM) : OOF more

This is soo messed up like her birthday gift tho

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Abdul-samad C Abdul-samad C (May 19 2023 8:21AM) : I feel as though the people who robbed them on a holiday were no lifes because how or why could a person just steal a little girls birthday gift from another relative and till this day aint get help to find it back and making her feel unsafe
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It was the first time I truly felt wronged.

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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 8:30AM) : It must of been horrible coming back from a fun night and seeing this.
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Kyla C Kyla C (Mar 11 2022 10:14AM) : Right then going thought the worst nightmare
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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 10:08AM) : I think that's crazy to experience that kind of thing at a young age.
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We never found out who robbed us -- but whoever it was, they not only took, but they gave. They gave me worry and confusion. And I was mad. I wanted my necklace back.

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Nyaira C Nyaira C (Mar 02 2022 9:06AM) : ! more

i feel like its so wrong how a family go out to trick and treat and they come back home and found out they just got robbed

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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 10:09AM) : !
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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 10:10AM) : *
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Samayah W Samayah W (Mar 01 2022 11:32AM) : they stole something verable to her that she just got i would of been mad too
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Landan D Landan D (Mar 04 2022 5:57PM) : What is verable

We never talked about the robbery. We just weren’t that kind of family, you know, who talked about their feelings, or took time to revisit certain painful memories.

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Sianni S Sianni S (Mar 01 2022 8:51AM) : Oof more

A lot of families are like that but dang they could’ve at least talked about how upset they were about the incident

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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 10:11AM) : ?
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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 10:12AM) : Why would you not talk about the robbery with your family I feel like thats just messes them up even more.
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Janiya H Janiya H (Mar 17 2022 10:08PM) : i feel they were too shaken up to talk about what happen so of course they wouldnt talk about it
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Kevin J Kevin J (Mar 01 2022 9:47AM) : ? more

Why not? could’ve got help.

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Samayah W Samayah W (Mar 01 2022 10:33AM) : me and my family the same we just let it go and let things happens when it happens
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Jahnya S Jahnya S (Mar 02 2022 9:01AM) : My family used to do the same thing until we all got comfortable talking about touchy topics.
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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 8:31AM) : This tells us the type of family their are. They arent very close and dont talk much.
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Kylah R Kylah R (Mar 18 2022 10:45AM) : my family is like too we try but it just dont work out

But that feeling of being violated has stuck with me. It might be the reason why, as an adult, I’ve always made sure there’s a door or some extra layer between the outside world and me.

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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 02 2022 7:02AM) : keep your private life from your social life more

some things people cant respect and you’ll just have to take that in for what it is. everyone doesn’t need to know everything in your life and everyone knowing everything isn’t always safe.

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Khayliyah T Khayliyah T (Mar 12 2022 1:27AM) : True.
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Aaliyah W's Question Aaliyah W and/or "The Author" Simulator (May 11 2023 12:15PM) : How would this affect them in the future? more
"The Author" Simulator with Aaliyah W's edits:
"The Author" Simulator
Acts like the author and explains the choices they made in the writing

I wrote this passage to show how feeling violated or uncomfortable can lead to people setting up boundaries for protection, both now and in the future. I wanted the reader to feel seen and understood, and to be able to relate to this experience in some way.
The two most powerful places in the passage are the quotes:
“But that feeling of being violated has stuck with me” and
“it might be the reason why, as an adult, I’ve always made sure there’s a door or some extra layer between the outside world and me.”
By saying that the feeling has stuck with me, I’m trying to emphasize the impact that this event had on me, and how I responded to it later in life. And by saying that I’ve “always made sure there’s a door or some extra layer between the outside world and me,” I’m highlighting the fact that I was wary of similar threats as an adult and my response was to be extra diligent in making sure I was safe and secure.

This can be a valuable lesson for teenagers, because it teaches them about the long-term impacts of feeling violated and how to find ways to keep themselves safe. It also encourages them to think about their own experiences with feeling violated, and how they have responded in their own lives.

Do you understand now why I wrote this passage the way I did? Have these details helped you to further connect with the text? I’d love to know your thoughts.

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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 6:32AM) : *

I still lock my bedroom door, every single night, even some 40 years later.

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Sianni S Sianni S (Mar 01 2022 8:52AM) : OOf more

Sounds like PTSD to me

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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 8:32AM) : *
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Khayliyah T Khayliyah T (Mar 12 2022 1:28AM) : Wow.. no one should have to feel that unsafe in their own home.
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100 years ago, in Tulsa, Oklahoma, an entire neighborhood was burned to the ground by a massive mob.

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 10:05AM) : Tulsa On Fire, Reminds me Move on Fire more

When I think about the bombing of Tulsa, it makes me connects with the fatal bombing of the Move Compound on Osage Ave.

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Jayden M Jayden M (Mar 03 2022 2:12PM) : Nah this still blows my mind that this happened. And how it all started off of an accusation when it wasn't even true.
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Aaron F Aaron F (Mar 05 2022 2:58AM) : Sound like the move situation. Same story but written differently.
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That neighborhood was Greenwood: a thriving community where thousands of hard working people lived and worked in the businesses they had built for themselves and their families.

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Emily V Emily V (Mar 04 2022 1:06PM) : Black people worked hard for what they wanted.
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Ahmir R Ahmir R (Mar 09 2022 8:42AM) : Black people came a long way and the fact that it’s didn’t take very long for greenwood to grow and become popular shows that black people in general are the real MVP’s.
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Jahnya S Jahnya S (Mar 09 2022 5:55PM) : Black people were and are hard working. The White mobs that burned the neighborhood down were only jealous and full of hate.
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Orneisha L Orneisha L (Mar 17 2022 9:47AM) : The black people of greenwood made a way for themselves, even tho they didn't have the same advantage as the white folks but they still built their community from the ground up and worked hard for what they wanted.
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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 17 2022 10:11PM) : ^ more

its good because they can all support each other.

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And those people... they were Black.

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Emily V Emily V (Mar 04 2022 1:08PM) : They say that black people were theirs and animals but this proof that black people are hard working.
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I wish that didn’t matter so much, but that distinction is important because of the world we live in… because the people who destroyed Greenwood -- were white.

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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 9:33AM) : !
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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Mar 03 2022 12:24PM) : Postcolonial Perspective more

This shows hows the black community was destroyed by the impact of race. (The black community in Oklahoma was destroyed by white mobs.) This shows how much white people hated Black people, and how black people were impacted by their race. They were a thriving black community, and the race of white people impacted their thriving black community(Black Wall Street) because of racism and hatred. The burning down of their community affected the black families to be left with no homes.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 06 2022 11:28PM) : Right this is so sad how it use to be this way
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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 06 2022 11:34PM) : just by reading this shows how it was for black people and how drak it was for them for when white people was being race to them and how they was treating them just by reading this
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The night of May 31st, and into the morning, hundreds of small children hid under their beds while their homes were being looted and set on fire.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 02 2022 10:06AM) : This is crazy like I feel so bad for the kids they was so young kids don’t need that time of stuff in there like
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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Mar 03 2022 12:39PM) : I agree. more

I agree, they were just children, I don’t think anyone’s children should go through this. Nobody should go through this! This shows how much white people didn’t care and how much they wanted to see Black people die. But I knew they didn’t care about killing children once milam and roy bryant brutally murdered Emmett Till. This is multiplying what was done. This is very upsetting, how much they don’t care and will do anything to kill Black people and push them back.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Mar 03 2022 12:33PM) : Postcolonial Perspective. more

This shows how racism/race impacted these children in Tulsa/Greenwood to be frightened, the ones who survived this massacre were probably impacted for the rest of their lives from trauma. Imagine you as a child and don’t know what is going on, and don’t even know what racism is but you have to suffer and see your community burn down because of racism/race. It also impacted those children to lose their family members, imagine how that felt! All because of racism and you don’t even know what that means as a child. You are just trying to live your life as a child, and see flames burning your community and have to hide under your bed not knowing what is going to happen next.

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Jayden M Jayden M (Mar 03 2022 2:15PM) : I underlined this in the marxist lens. more

It’s crazy, these people had so much power over these children that they hid under their beds helpless.

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Jahnya S Jahnya S (Mar 09 2022 5:57PM) : Crazy how innocent children had to go through such a traumatic experience only because of the color of their skin. No child should ever have to go through such a thing.
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Jahnya S Jahnya S (Mar 09 2022 5:58PM) : This also shows how the white mobs that burned the neighborhood down had no heart. How could you put a child through that? I will never understand.
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Orneisha L Orneisha L (Mar 17 2022 9:49AM) : Those children didn't deserve to go through that, they really didn't even care about the children or even think how this would affect them. I bet racism had a role to play in this!
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[VOICES OF MASSACRE SURVIVORS IN THE BACKGROUND]

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Parents, uncles, aunts and grandparents were shot to death on their porches, or while kneeling down, praying for mercy. Others were shot in the streets as they ran from the fire. Emergency services, like Tulsa’s fire department, let Greenwood burn. Airplanes, deputized by the local authorities, dropped turpentine bombs from the sky.

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Zahir M Zahir M (Mar 04 2022 12:09PM) : !
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Emily V Emily V (Mar 04 2022 1:12PM) : They convinced and killed all those people but not one white person was arrested for what they did. This shows now people of power and money can just get away with anything.
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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 06 2022 11:38PM) : they killed all the black people but only one white person was arrested that's just crazy how they act like one person did that to them black people all because power and money can just get away with anything
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Hudhayfa C Hudhayfa C (Mar 04 2022 1:22PM) : Cruel world more

this is just inhumane and sad that anyone would ever do this to someone out of spite

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 10:09AM) : Let it burn more

The City of Philadelphia let the houses on Osage Ave burn too. I wonder what impact the bombing of Move still has on Philadelphia? Is the impact of the fires in Greenwood and Osage Ave the same?

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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 9:37AM) : This is a really cruel world. It shows how much white people really hated black people. White people didnt even help. They fire department didnt even complete their duty and they swore to. All because of hatred
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Emily V Emily V (Mar 04 2022 1:10PM) : They convinced and killed all those people but not one white person was arrested for what they did. This shows now people of power and money can just get away with anything.
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And when it was all over, hundreds of Greenwood residents were dead -- and 60 people were indicted -- all of them Black. Not a single white person was charged with larceny, arson, or murder, or anything else. Even when they proudly displayed the jewelry, furs, and other belongings they took from their neighbors.

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Kevin J Kevin J (Mar 01 2022 9:51AM) : what does indicted mean ?
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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 11:49AM) : Indicted more

charge someone of crime! The law can sometimes be used against the folks they are supposed to protect.

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Nyaira C Nyaira C (Mar 02 2022 10:07AM) : ? more

no white people was charged huh

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Kevin J Kevin J (Mar 01 2022 9:53AM) : why don't wealthy black people have weapons?
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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 11:47AM) : Weapons of Mass Destruction more

The Black Community in Tulsa did have arms to protect themselves. But they did not have the force of the Whole Government to help defend them.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Mar 03 2022 1:01PM) : I agree.. more

As it was mentioned, they didn’t have any protection from the government, so when it is all those people against you and you don’t have no help from the government you can’t do much to stop what is being done…

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Jayden M Jayden M (Mar 03 2022 2:16PM) : ! more

AGREED!

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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 02 2022 10:09AM) : crazy! more

i feel like they should’ve been charged for something because this is just wrong.

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Jaylen C Jaylen C (Mar 03 2022 9:33AM) : ? more

Was there no justice system for these people because this is terrible.

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yaseliz a yaseliz a (Mar 03 2022 9:37AM) : ?
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Khayliyah T Khayliyah T (Mar 12 2022 2:34AM) : Bro? So they slaughtered a whole neighborhood over a crime that they had no evidence of, but they weren't charged with anything?
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Omilleo H Omilleo H (Mar 02 2022 10:09AM) : Even when they showed off the thing they stole nothing happened to them.
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Daniel C Daniel C (Mar 04 2022 1:19PM) : it's sad because this is just plain racism and they just got away with it

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So when I think about what happened to Greenwood -- to that community of people who looked like me, people whose skin was Brown, like mine, people who liked nice things like me, people who made mistakes, people who struggled and persevered... I just can't imagine how those two traumatic days reverberated in every cell of their bodies -- in every move that they made from that moment forward. And I think about their children’s bodies and how generation upon generation absorbs an event like this -- and how its memory mutates from one descendent to the next.

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Mar 01 2022 10:09AM) : The Feminist Perspective(Philadelphia/Local Perspective) [Edited] more

This shows the connection of how it is to be brown and her personal connection of liking nice things. (She was robbed.) I like that she made that personal connection of being robbed as a brown person and Brown/Black Tulsans having their city burned down. I also liked how she made other connections like how they make mistakes as she does. This makes me say they were just normal humans that happened to have a successful neighborhood, that the white mobs burned down.

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 12:46PM) : . more

this makes me so upset . They had everything they could dream of. All those morning nights of hard working. Making greenwood a dream come true for black people.This makes me so sick to actually read and seen how they treated us. Everything was destroyed, every life there was of a black person was now gone. Homes burnt to the ground with nothing but ashes left.

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Kevin J Kevin J (Mar 01 2022 9:55AM) : I agree
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Jayden M Jayden M (Mar 03 2022 2:17PM) : ! more

AGREED!

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Elanur E Elanur E (Mar 02 2022 2:41PM) : This is a key point - it illustrates the ways in which intergenerational trauma not only influences collective memory, but individual lives

How did the residents of Greenwood make sense of what was taking place on a hot summer night in 1921? And how are their descendants reckoning with that past today?

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From The History Channel and WNYC Studios, this is Blindspot: Tulsa Burning.

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My name is KalaLea.

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On this show, we’ll look back at the blindspots in our collective memory -- and the histories we might not know, but need to. This season: The Tulsa Race Massacre.

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 1:05PM) : . [Edited] more

I agree with KalaLea , When you read about the same people that has the same skin color like you , your whole mind wraps around this image of how bad life was for them back then. They life meant nothing but worthless to those white people.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 02 2022 10:17AM) : I like how she like this is what we need to know like we don’t know and you made not want to know but you need to know. If I’m making sense. more

I like how she like this is what we need to know like we don’t know and you made not want to know but you need to know. If I’m making sense.

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Six episodes that explore what led up to it... and how we’re still feeling the impact of the violence today.

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We’ll be going back to one of the most lively and prosperous all-Black towns in American history.

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QURAYSH ALI LANSANA: Wealth and economic independence born out of necessity of Jim Crow segregation.

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KALALEA: We’ll revisit the founding of Oklahoma, the discovery of oil and the creation of wealth beyond belief…

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Ahmir R Ahmir R (Mar 09 2022 8:45AM) : Seems like black have a lot of luck with finding land that’s basically a gold mind beneath.
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ELI GRAYSON: basically the Saudi Arabia of the world in those years

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KALALEA: … and we’ll find out: What were the forces that allowed Greenwood to flourish? And why did the people outside its borders want them gone forever?

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VANESSA ADAMS-HARRIS: In its essence, it’s about moving people off of land for the sake of redevelopment.

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KALALEA: We’ll also hear from survivors and their descendents, people whose lives were transformed by the attack. 100 years later, they’re still bearing the cost.

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Daniel C Daniel C (Mar 07 2022 9:27AM) : their family shouldn't have to bear the cost if this happened 100 years
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Kylah R Kylah R (Mar 18 2022 11:46AM) : why should they have to deal with something from a 100 years ago

TIFFANY CRUTCHER: When she shot my brother, it's almost like she killed
me too.

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 1:09PM) : . [Edited] more

this right here is hurt! I felt those goosebumps,I felt the pain in her voice.

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KALALEA: The Massacre has affected us all, whether we know it or not. Because the people and policies that threatened Greenwood continue to threaten communities all over the country.

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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 18 2022 10:14AM) : . more

a lot of people will be hurt because it’ll be hard for them to get all of their stuff back

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Ahmir R Ahmir R (Mar 09 2022 9:47PM) : I think this one hit something, greenwood has affected us because after that many other thriving black community suffered something similar.

Over the next six episodes, I’d love for you to ask yourself: What would it take for history to stop repeating itself?

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Elanur E Elanur E (Mar 02 2022 11:43AM) : In our group, we had a discussion about "what would it take for history to stop repeating itself?"
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[THEME MUSIC ENDS]

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Episode 1: The Past is Present

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It all started in an elevator.

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Only the two people involved really knew what happened there… and their voices are missing from the historical record.

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So much of this story has been strategically erased -- cut out of newspaper archives, and kept out of school curricula.

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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 02 2022 11:13PM) : @ more

they might’ve kept that out because they don’t want people questioning what ACTUALLY happened.

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Aaron F Aaron F (Mar 05 2022 4:01PM) : I agree. I feel like they want to avoid being called for their actions many years ago.
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But for a hundred years the story has gone something like this: on May 30, 1921, in an office building called the Drexel … in what was then Jim Crow Oklahoma ... a 19-year old African American shoe-shiner named Dick Rowland -- allegedly touched the elevator operator, Sarah Page -- who was white.

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Whether he assaulted her, tripped and fell, or they were in a romantic relationship... that no longer mattered. The morning after the incident, Rowland was picked up by police and accused of assault. He was then arrested and locked up in the courthouse jail.

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Sianni S Sianni S (Mar 01 2022 9:59AM) : OOf more

And I oop- so it wasn’t even clear I’m sure that woman felt guilty about this

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 1:18PM) : . more

This is totally crazy cause nobody at all knew what really went down in that elevator. Just because he was black they accused this young of something he probably didnt do at all.

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Aaron F Aaron F (Mar 05 2022 3:04AM) : I still think it was planned. They wanted land and knew how to get it.
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Khayliyah T Khayliyah T (Mar 12 2022 2:39AM) : I just would like to know what was going through her head.. did she just think "Oh, I should accuse this man here of sexually assaulting me" ?? And even so, what did the whole neighborhood have to do with it? Like??
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Within a couple of hours, a large group of armed white men -- along with some women and children -- showed up to the courthouse -- threatening to lynch Rowland, something that was happening to so many Black people at the time.

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Shortly after, a smaller group of Black men -- also armed -- arrived to defend him.

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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 18 2022 10:16AM) : . more

this could cause a riot

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There are many stories of what happened in the area surrounding the courthouse that evening. Some say that two men -- one white, the other Black -- got into a fight over the Black man’s gun. Others say a random shot went off and all hell broke loose.

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Nyaira C Nyaira C (Mar 02 2022 10:14AM) : ! [Edited] more

nobody knows what really happen . everybody is just going off of what eachother say instead of telling the truth

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 1:15PM) : . more

I agree but like how would we even know the truth , if we wasnt in the elevator?.

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What we DO know is that the following morning, thousands of white people crossed over into Greenwood, the Black community, and burned down scores of homes and businesses.

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 12:20PM) : . more

this creates so much hatred towards these white people.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 06 2022 10:42PM) : for real like why would they do that
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Jahnya S Jahnya S (Mar 09 2022 4:59PM) : Yea, these white people were full of hate.
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For years, it was called a Riot -- which suggests that the violence was mutual or random.

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It was neither.

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There are dozens of eyewitness accounts that say that at precisely 5 o’clock in the morning on June 1st, a loud whistle blew, and as if on cue, a hoard of white people descended on the neighborhood, guns firing.

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Maleah H Maleah H (Mar 09 2022 1:51PM) : I feel as though they planned that because ain't no way that you would blow a whistle and all these white people start coming
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Orneisha L Orneisha L (Mar 17 2022 8:51AM) : They plotted on these people and waited for the right moment to try and wipe them all out. that's so sickening!
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And some of those weapons were enormous machine guns, the kind issued by the military that some white soldiers brought back from fighting in World War I.

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 12:23PM) : . more

My MIND IS JUST STUCK! We really was monsters to this white people. This is really hurtful

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Maleah H Maleah H (Mar 11 2022 9:54AM) : Why were they able to bring weapons back from WWI ?
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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 17 2022 9:17PM) : . more

why we’re big weapons brought into this, i feel like they we’re trying to wipe out that whole black community.

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Samuel R's Question Samuel R and/or TikTok Script Simulator (May 11 2023 11:52AM) : Why did the white men need to many machine guns? more
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This 45-second viral TikTok video is sure to grab viewers’ attention and summon an emotional response.
The video opens with a series of shots alternating between a black teenager in their home surrounded by tributes to their heritage and a group of white men proudly marching with machine guns during a war rally. The camera angles for the different shots alternate between shots from close up of the teenager’s face to a wide angle shot of the white men.
The contrasting scenes are punctuated by a powerful music track to evoke deep emotions in the viewers.
Flashy editing and cool filters evoke a feeling of deep reflection as the faces of the teen and the men emerge from the darkness.
The text then reads, ‘Why did the white men need so many machine guns?’.
This question serves to show the tragic effects of racism on the present day and its lasting legacy from the past.
Finally, the video ends with an invitation to comment and share their own perspectives on the issue.

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This was a coordinated attack.

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Daniel C Daniel C (Mar 07 2022 8:34AM) : i believe it was coordinated but its crazy that they tried to say that it wasn't
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Khayliyah T Khayliyah T (Mar 12 2022 1:41AM) : !
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CHIEF EGUNWALE AMUSAN: Most of the people who consider themselves historians say that a mob invaded Greenwood … that's a lie.

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KALALEA: I want to introduce you to Chief Egunwale Amusan -- a well-built, stocky man with a cheerful-looking face. Born and raised in Tulsa, he’s a descendent of a Massacre survivor -- his grandfather, who died some years ago.

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KALALEA: Can you tell me about him?

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AMUSAN: My grandfather and I, we had a really close relationship. I honored him, I honored his family values, his ethics, you know, everything about him was just beautiful. My grandmother say, he was a man's man, you know?

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KALALEA: And for decades, Amusan has been advocating for survivors, descendants and their families. His mission in life is to set the record straight about what happened to thousands of Black Tulsans in 1921.

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Sianni S Sianni S (Mar 01 2022 9:13AM) : OOF more

What a king

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 10:50AM) : Wakanda Forever! more

I love the Wakanda reference

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Khayliyah T Khayliyah T (Mar 12 2022 1:41AM) : I laughed.
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Orneisha L Orneisha L (Mar 17 2022 8:52AM) : I agree that was very powerful!
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Samuel R's Question Samuel R and/or Post-Colonial Simulator (May 11 2023 1:38PM) : Why would someone compare Greenwood to Wakunda? more
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It sounds like we are being presented a story of resilience in Greenwood, when looking at it through the post-colonial lens. The comparison to Wakunda can be seen as a way to highlight the strength and resilience of this community in the face of the events and oppression that it faces. Thinking about what it means to “set the record straight” can help us to understand this story from a post-colonial perspective: from the perspective of a colonized people who have been misrepresented in the official record and have fought for the recognition of their history. We can use this perspective to ask questions about the text that involve understanding the cultural markers in Greenwood, the representation of the Other, the effects of oppression and injustice, and the implications of this story for wider society.

[AMBI of TOUR TAPE ENTERS]

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AMUSAN / TOUR: You have to ask yourself: what was Greenwood? If it wasn’t a street, what was it? By the time we’re finished, my hope is you’ll feel like you walked into a 1921 version of Wakanda, and oil is vibranium.

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KALALEA: One of the ways he does that is by providing tours of Greenwood, which he calls The Real Black Wall Street Tour.

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KALALEA: I want to know from you, like, what have people gotten wrong? What is the real story?

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AMUSAN: One of the reasons we named it the Real Black Wall Street Tour is because there were other tours taking place, but they were watered down. I wanted it to be so tangible that you felt like you were living the experience, as I tell the story. Right, I wanted you to be able to smell Greenwood. I wanted you to be, to hear the music on Greenwood. I wanted you to be able to smell the burning on Greenwood. I want you to have a total holistic experience.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 06 2022 10:41PM) : I'm happy that the black people can do this but how can they when they stuff got destroyed?
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Landan D Landan D (Mar 10 2022 9:23AM) : Sad. more

It’s so hard to have people come and mess your stuff up cause of your skin

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Omilleo H Omilleo H (Mar 02 2022 9:21AM) : What does holistic mean? [Edited]
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Elanur E Elanur E (Mar 02 2022 1:39PM) : Holistic refers to the "whole" - and is all-encompassing. He wants people to experience Greenwood in its entirely, to make it come alive and for people to notice how the past, present, and future are interconnected

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AMUSAN / TOUR: You could go do any and everything within walking distance in the Greenwood district. Most people have no idea that the original Cotton Club was right here in Tulsa, Oklahoma...

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AMUSAN: We start it right in the core, in the heart of Greenwood and I show people. What was, and what is no more…

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[AMBI of TOUR TAPE]

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AMUSAN / TOUR: This is the location of the Stratford Hotel. In 1918, this was declared the crown jewel of hotels in the United States of America, owned by a Black man...

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AMUSAN: I take them to the places where bodies were dumped. I take them to the home of Wyatt Tate Brady, the city founder, Klansman.

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AMUSAN / TOUR: He said yes, I’m a member of the Klan, I’m a proud member of Klan, so was my father a member of the Klan.

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AMUSAN: ...so that they can see that he built a home that is the replica of Robert E. Lee.

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I take them to Standpipe Hill...

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AMUSAN / TOUR: They occupied these hills and fought for their lives.

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AMUSAN: ...the battleground location, where Black men fought to defend Greenwood.

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This explains why it was necessary to bomb Greenwood, because there was a losing battle on the ground.

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KALALEA: How do you know this?

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AMUSAN: You got 150 survivors in the room, and out of 150, 75 are saying, yes, we saw those planes drop things out of the sky. In fact, the most articulate of the survivors, the most powerful one -- Professor Dr. Olivia Hooker, before she passed, she always said, “Yes. We, I saw them drop, uh, things out of the planes.” A little girl saying I saw them drop things out of the plane, not understanding what she's seeing or what's happening.

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KALALEA: In the early 1900s, Greenwood was referred to as a Black Mecca, a Promised Land for those with darker skin tone. I say this because there were Black people from all over the country who lived in Greenwood, as well as Native people.

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In 1921, Greenwood counted two schools, two newspapers, a hospital, more than a dozen churches, a public library, two movie theaters and dozens of other businesses, all Black owned and operated.

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Omilleo H Omilleo H (Mar 02 2022 9:29AM) : Black people owned all of this and it all got destroyed in a day.
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Maleah H Maleah H (Mar 11 2022 9:55AM) : its sad...
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AMUSAN: When I do tours, I say, have you ever been anywhere with 600 Black businesses are located -- during a time period like that, right?

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No. I have yet to meet anybody who can say that. You have to go to the continent to experience something like that.

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Kyree M Kyree M (Mar 04 2022 11:22AM) : u cant state anything u haven't gone through
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I take them to different places throughout the Greenwood district and even around the entire district so that they can see how much was actually burned, because we can’t imagine 10,000 Black people in one place.

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Raiyyan S Raiyyan S (Mar 02 2022 9:25AM) : # more

a lot black people never saw a lot of black owned businesses too much so it was rare.

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KALALEA: The population of Greenwood in 1921, just before the massacre, was somewhere between 10 and 12,000 people -- all living within about 40 square blocks.

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Jupree W Jupree W (Mar 04 2022 11:31AM) : That's a lot of people in around 40 square blocks
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That reminds me of Harlem during its heyday. But the difference in Greenwood was that Black people owned a substantial amount of land.

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Not sure you can say the same for the residents of Harlem back then.

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Chief says that Greenwood was a city within a city.

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AMUSAN: The city of Tulsa called it, the white citizens of Tulsa, called Greenwood “Niggertown” or “Little Africa.” Right, if you comparing a community to a continent, it's not a community, right? And that's really what they represented because they were like a little nation.

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KALALEA: I’m pretty sure that Tulsans were not complimenting Greenwood on its size or presence. Calling anything “African” back then was a denigrating remark. But I love that Chief took that as a compliment.

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Greenwood streets were lined with Sycamore, Oak and Cottonwood trees. Many of its residents lived in boarding houses, but others lived in more elaborate homes.

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Kyree M Kyree M (Mar 04 2022 11:23AM) : it saying that people worked for them houses just for them to get destroyed
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Landan D Landan D (Mar 10 2022 9:24AM) : Sad. more

Imagine so hard on you house and then white people come and burn it down

AMUSAN: We're talking about two story homes. You had homes that were carports... you know, I mean, most of us don't have houses that exquisite today.

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KALALEA: To give you a sense of the kind of wealth there: O. W. Gurley, one of the founders of Greenwood, was worth approximately 5 million dollars in today's money, and J.B. Stradford owned a 54-room hotel which was valued at almost $2.5 million. Both men had a vision for Greenwood and were outspoken supporters of entrepreneurship, self-reliance and Black ownership.

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AMUSAN: And then when you look at the photos, I want people to pay attention, look at the houses that didn't get burned down. You know why they didn't get burned down? Because the white people who came into burn could not believe that a Black person lived in those homes. They said it is impossible. So they didn't burn it.

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KALALEA: But the whites destroyed the homes and businesses of both Gurley and Stradford, and nearly every other Black person who lived in Greenwood.

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AMUSAN: People want to say, Oh, it was the Klan and it was, you know, this mob violence. No, it was the police department. It was the city of Tulsa. It was the state of Oklahoma who failed to protect the constitutional rights of these citizens. That's what we really need to understand.

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Because anytime a police department says we're going to deputize 250 plus men, then the Sheriff's department does the same thing. Hundreds of men … that’s state-sanctioned murder, that’s state-sanctioned genocide.

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KALALEA: And in pictures taken of the neighborhood from the next day… it really does look like the buildings have exploded - shattered bricks are everywhere -- it’s like a war zone.

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Nyaira C Nyaira C (Mar 02 2022 9:32AM) : ! more

The news is trying to cover everything up , there trying to pictcure it as this good state and its not .

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But the day after the Massacre, June 2nd, newspapers across the country told a different story. The number of dead varied widely, from dozens to hundreds.

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And get this: the LA Times even suggested Communists had infiltrated Greenwood and they were to blame.

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 9:25AM) : Communist a Bad Word more

I noticed often in history when folks point out critical economic and social issues about race and class in America they get labeled as communists. Martin Luther King was labeled a communist.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 02 2022 9:10AM) : Right
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The Governor of Oklahoma called for an investigation, which ultimately pointed the finger at two different groups: militant, outspoken Blacks who didn’t know their place, and corrupt law enforcement.

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Today, we’d call them “bad apples.”

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Basically, the thousands of other white Tulsans who perpetrated the attack were within their right to burn and destroy Little Africa.

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KALALEA: What, what impact has it had on, on you and the community? What can you see?

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AMUSAN: Well, what we see is the reflection of 1921. And I don't mean figuratively. I mean, literally,

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KALALEA: Tulsa is as segregated today as it was 100 years ago. The white and Black communities are divided by two major pieces of infrastructure: One, the Frisco railroad tracks. And, two, I-44, an interstate highway, which was built straight through Greenwood in the late 50s.

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KALALEA: And where are things now?

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AMUSAN: If you come to North Tulsa, it looks as if the burning had just happened because there's nothing left. If you come there today, it will look as empty as it did the day they burned it

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KALALEA: North Tulsa is predominantly Black and South Tulsa, a short drive away, is predominantly white.

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In white Tulsa you’ll find large multi-story homes, manicured lawns, and high-end shopping malls.

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But just as Chief Amusan mentioned, in North Tulsa, Black Tulsa, it’s as if someone hit the pause button. While some areas have been rebuilt, there are also vast empty stretches that extend for miles. Plywood tagged with graffiti covers the windows and doors of homes, shopping plazas and other commercial spaces.

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And you can still see the damage the burning had on the land.

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[AMBI of TOUR TAPE]

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AMUSAN / TOUR: It is a reminder of the damage that Greenwood...it’s like
Greenwood is still burning

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KALALEA: There are also blocks and blocks where nothing has been rebuilt since the 1920s. Staircases leading to homes that don’t exist anymore. Steps that lead to nowhere. Those stairs are a constant reminder of the harm inflicted not by some storm or distant enemy, but by Greenwood’s neighbors, employers and city officials.

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AMUSAN: And then you deal with it on a psychological level, right?

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Myself and other descendants that I personally know. We've examined how a lot of this has been internalized because when you're abused and you keep it a secret, what happens? Right? You turn in on yourself or each other.

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KALALEA: Many of the Black people who stayed in Tulsa after the massacre say they received threats that if they talked about it or sought restitution, it would happen again. And keeping this tragedy a secret meant that their loved ones were protected. You can’t be afraid of something if you don’t know it’s possible.

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And for white people, many were ashamed or scared to expose their more violent neighbors. Or even that they would be held accountable for the actions of their parents or grandparents.

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The result: generations of Tulsans didn’t know about the massacre at all.

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CRUTCHER: To be quite honest, Black Wall Street, that's not something I
really knew about growing up in Tulsa.

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KALALEA: James Baldwin once wrote: “people are trapped in history and history is trapped in them.”

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 9:30AM) : Baldwin, more

Baldwin was an outspoken African American spokesperson. I appreciate the way he called out American is Essay Letter to my Nephew"https://progressive.org/magazine/letter-nephew/":https://progressive.org/magazine/letter-nephew/

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This is Blindspot.

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[MIDROLL]

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KALALEA: This is Blindspot: Tulsa Burning. I’m KalaLea.

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CRUTCHER: For me, life was good. Didn't know anything about racism. Didn't really realize that there was a racial divide. I just remember growing up having a good life.

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I find it interesting that young children are not born racists. Children do not naturally have racist tendencies… Racism is taught. Racism is constructed .

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Laniyah B Laniyah B (Mar 06 2022 12:55PM) : . [Edited] more

I feel like racism is something that repeats itself. Also I feel like if you are black and born , raised in Tulsa then you should know the full background of what Tulsa really was once upon a time ago.

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Keyyannee C Keyyannee C (Mar 06 2022 10:47PM) : I think racism is something that don't stop it just keep going like it never ends but when it does it's always that one person's that stuck in the past
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KALALEA: Meet Dr. Tiffany Crutcher. Tiffany is a physical therapist who has the most beautiful smile. She was born and raised in Tulsa.

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CRUTCHER: You can't come to Tulsa without going to a barbecue joint and
eating a barbecue bologna sandwich. You can't come to Tulsa without
having Coney Island. You can't come to Tulsa without --

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 10:13AM) : BBQ more

Love me some BBQ :)

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KALALEA: Wait, wait, what's a Coney Island?

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CRUTCHER: Island is a hot dog joint with some petite Coneys with this really great chili sauce. And it's just simply amazing.

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KALALEA: Mmm… I love hot dogs.

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For Tiffany, growing up in Greenwood was kind of idyllic. Her home was the neighborhood spot. You know, the kind of place where all the kids wanna be... Where there's food, and warmth and lots of love...

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Samuel R Samuel R (Mar 01 2022 10:22AM) : Food & Warmth more

I get a feminist vibe from the line. Black women and black homes are known for hospitality.

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Kyree M Kyree M (Mar 04 2022 11:26AM) : i get a mom vibe too because moms like to care for there kids alot and like to talk about them alot

KALALEA: So I want to talk a little, just go back to like, what was it like growing up in Tulsa in the... seem like... must be like, late seventies, eighties? What was that like?

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CRUTCHER: I was raised in a typical, I would say lower-middle class home, mom and dad worked really, really hard. My dad worked for the city of Tulsa and my mom was a music educator. And life was really good. You know, I'm one of four children, the only girl and what I remember is playing outside in a community, in a village, where the neighbors knew who you were. And there was always a lot of children at our house. And the North Tulsa community, the Black side of Tulsa, was just ripe with tradition, heritage, legacy.

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KALALEA: Except when it came to one key incident.

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Tiffany says she went to some of the best schools in Tulsa, but she didn’t learn about the events of 1921 until college -- at Langston University, an HBCU.

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CRUTCHER: When people from Chicago or Detroit, California, New York would ask, where are you from? And, uh, I would say Tulsa, Oklahoma, everybody would say, Oh, Black Wall Street, or the Tulsa Race Riot. And I had no idea what they were talking about.

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KALALEA: Finally, she asked her dad what happened in Tulsa in 1921.

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CRUTCHER: And that's when he shared with me that his grandmother, my great grandmother, Rebecca Brown Crutcher - we called her Mama Brown - um, her community was burned down and she had to flee in fear of her life.

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Jupree W Jupree W (Mar 04 2022 11:34AM) : I feel like he was sad telling her about her great grandmothers community burning down.
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KALALEA: Tiffany's father grew up not knowing about the massacre either. It wasn’t until he was a young man, in 1968...

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CRUTCHER: He came back from Vietnam, and Martin Luther King had gotten assassinated and riots broke out, you know, all over. And that's when his grandmother, she whispered and said, something like, that happened here.

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KALALEA: The cause of the unrest was vastly different, but the threat of violence was still so fresh in her mind. And so Tiffany's father listened to his grandmother tell the story of her escape from Tulsa after one of the deadliest massacres in U.S. history.

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CRUTCHER: They jumped on the back of a truck with a neighbor and they fled to Muskogee, Oklahoma, which was a neighboring county, fleeing, trying to get out of harm's way.

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KALALEA: How old was she around that time, do you know?

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CRUTCHER: Like, uh, like a teenager maybe around 19 or, or 20. Yeah... so she definitely could have been able to tell the stories, but my grandmother never shared because she was forced into silence...

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KALALEA: Were there people sending death threats, or, describe... What do you mean?

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CRUTCHER: She shared with my dad that they told us we better not ever say anything. If you do, you're going to be lynched next, you'll die next. And that's what I've heard from a lot of family members, a lot of descendants, that same story. And a lot of them just didn't want to talk about it. They blocked it out of their mind. They deal with a lot of internalized grief.

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KALALEA: Tiffany never got the chance to learn more about her great-grandmother’s experience. Because she died when Tiffany was in junior high school.

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CRUTCHER: What was my great-grandmother thinking as the violence was taking place? Um, what was it like seeing your entire community destroyed in the era of Jim Crow and Klansmen and -- with airplanes dropping bombs and, and police officers allowing deputized Klansmen to, to, to shoot at innocent Black men with their, their hands up. It's just, man. I wish I would have asked her more questions.

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this is such an emotional thing to hear. Like when I hear this lady speak about what her great- grandmother went through it’s like damn , this How much strength you really had take all in to survive being a black person .

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Thank God she survived, or I wouldn't be here today.

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Kyree M Kyree M (Mar 04 2022 11:24AM) : shes thanking god for surviving
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[PAUSE]

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KALALEA: I want to pause for a second on something Tiffany said: “innocent Black men with their hands up.”

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There’s a photograph from 1921 I keep coming back to. It’s one of several images documenting the aftermath of the massacre that were made into postcards -- much like the postcards produced and distributed after a lynching.

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This picture was a souvenir for some of the white people to send to their families and friends.

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It shows a group of Black men with their hands up in the air as if they were under arrest. The men are walking in the middle of a street, their eyes cast downward, one man’s hat is falling off his head.

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And written by hand across the top of the image, it reads: “Captured Negroes on the way to convention hall during Tulsa race riot, June 1st, 1921.”

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The men are walking to one of the makeshift internment camps.

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They don't look like rioters. They look helpless -- even compliant. Like people who just lost everything.

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CRUTCHER: Then I, I fast forward to what happened to my twin brother, Terrance in 2016. And I see that same visual with the helicopter.

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KALALEA: Can you tell me what happened?

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CRUTCHER: I remember it, KalaLea, like it was yesterday. Uh, it was a Friday.

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KALALEA: She was sitting at a restaurant waiting for a friend when she got a call from her cousin.

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CRUTCHER: She said, have you called home lately...

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KALALEA: ...She was living in Montgomery at the time...

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CRUTCHER: I said not in a couple of days. And then she paused, and she finally said it's about Terrence. And I said spit it out. She said I heard he was shot... and they say he's dead.

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I really didn't believe it but I had that feeling of sickness. I was just praying ... God, please don't let this be true. Please don't let this be true.

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KALALEA: Then her father called.

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CRUTCHER: My dad, my hero, my father on the other end of the phone hysterical just screaming:

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“They killed my son. They killed my son and they won't let me see my son. We're in the hospital. They're treating us like criminals. I'm so upset.” And I said "Dad, who killed Terence?” And he said, the police. And I just lost it.

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I lost it because I remember when Freddie Gray got shot, when Mike Brown got shot, I was one of those people who said we have to do something about this when Trayvon Martin was killed, you know, I was glued to the TV screen and never in a million years would I have thought that I would be in their shoes.

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KALALEA: Early the next morning, Tiffany was at her parents' home in Tulsa when homicide detectives arrived to explain what had happened to her brother.

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They said that on the evening of September 16th, Tulsa city officer Betty Jo Shelby -- who is white -- saw Terrence standing in the middle of a 2-lane road, a little ways from his stalled car. The officer approached him and told him to get on his knees. He didn’t respond to her commands and instead stood with his hands up. Shelby believed he was under the influence of something or having a mental health issue. She called for back-up and drew her gun.

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A helicopter arrived and recorded the final moments of Terence’s life.

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Less than thirty seconds after back-up arrived, an officer tased Terence, and then Shelby shot him once in the chest, while another officer tased him again.

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The police left his body on the side of the road for more than two minutes before anyone checked on him.

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The whole encounter lasted about a half an hour.

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Terence T. Crutcher, Sr., father of four, was pronounced dead at the hospital.

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He was 40 years old.

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CRUTCHER: My brother had his hands in the air. My brother wasn't committing a crime. My brother wasn't suspected of committing a crime. My brother wasn't a fleeing felon. My brother was in crisis mode. He needed help, but instead he got a bullet. And… when she shot my brother, it's almost like she killed me too.

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KALALEA: In recent years, the Tulsa Police Department has been under investigation for corruption and misconduct. But a jury acquitted Officer Betty Shelby of 1st-degree manslaughter. She resigned and ultimately found a job as a deputy sheriff in another county.

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And the Crutcher Estate, they filed two lawsuits against the city of Tulsa for Terence’s wrongful death. One was dismissed, and the other is still pending.

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Tiffany left her physical therapy practice to be a full-time activist.

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CRUTCHER: There's a historical context to this, to police brutality. This has been happening since we've been brought over here, uh, from Africa, you know, during the slave trade. And so this era of police brutality is just a continuation of racial terror violence, uh, that Blacks in America that we've been experiencing in this country for centuries. The laws that are written, give police officers the authority to commit legal murder.

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As a woman who stands on the shoulders of our ancestors, of the community of Greenwood and Black Wall Street, I refuse to stand by and allow lies to be told.

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KALALEA: For the descendents of the massacre of Greenwood, there has been no justice, no restitution. The people who were responsible have never been held accountable.

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But right now, the city of Tulsa is confronting its past like never before.

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Public schools are finally including the massacre in their history curriculum. There’s a new lawsuit calling for reparations. And archeologists have discovered mass graves that they believe contain bodies of massacre victims; and what they find could answer questions that have haunted the city for a century...

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What would it take to make it right? To allow Tulsa to truly heal from this painful past?

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And what would the city -- and our country -- look like if they succeed?

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That’s this season, on Blindspot.

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[THEME MUSIC]

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Blindspot: Tulsa Burning is a co-production of The History Channel and WNYC Studios, in collaboration with KOSU and Focus Black Oklahoma. Our team includes: Caroline Lester, Alana Casanova-Burgess, Joe Plourde, Emily Mann, Jenny Lawton, Emily Botein, Quraysh Ali Lansana, Bracken Klar, Rachel Hubbard, Anakwa Dwamena, Jami Floyd, and Cheryl Devall. The music is by Hannis Brown, Am’re Ford, and Isaac Jones.

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Our executive producers at The History Channel are Eli Lehrer and Jessie Katz. Raven Majia Williams is a consulting producer. Special thanks to Andrew Golis and Celia Muller.

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I’m KalaLea, thank you for listening.

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Hosted by KalaLea

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WNYC Studios

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Raniyah L Raniyah L (Mar 03 2022 11:56AM) : Personal Response Perspective more

I think this relates to the experience of young black people in Philadelphia today because I feel young black people have to hide because of the fear that they might be the next victim of police brutality and will be on the news because of their skin color. This is how young black people in Philadelphia have to hide their skin color or not go to certain places because they don’t want to be shot to death because of all the racism that is going on in Philadelphia today. Or just the fear of walking out the door as a black person today and not knowing if you will make it back in the house because of the racism in Philadelphia. Definitely as an African-American male but they don’t care they would do it to African-American women too.

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IT’S CRAZY THAT THEY MUST LIVE IN FEAR BECAUSE OF POLICETHE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US!

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