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The Lemon Grove Incident (Video)

Author: PBS from a story by By Robert R. Alvarez Jr.

https://video.valleypbs.org/video/the-lemon-grove-incident-gcrfxv/

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Emily V (Aug 31 2020 12:55PM) : timeL 0-7 the school board had a meeting to discuss what they are go do the over population of mexicans at the school. one of them said that mexicans probably have diseases and the are unsanitized. they thought about putting them in different schools.
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Allen A (Aug 31 2020 1:06PM) : 0-7 It looks like the school board is trying to find a way to separate the whites and mexicans to solve their problems instead of finding a solution that helps everyone rather than separating them as that seems kinda racist. [Edited]
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Natalia N (Aug 31 2020 2:42PM) : A solution that helps everyone would have been much better!
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Diego B (Sep 03 2020 7:03PM) : that would be a rather bias decision but a result where both parties benefit is preferred
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Emily V (Aug 31 2020 1:36PM) : time: 8-15 once mexicans came to america from the south in order to find jobs they settles in lemon cove and made their own community. at school they were in separate classes to make them more american instead of learning. [Edited] more

the white parents didn’t want mexican children to be in the same environment as their kids so they made a separate school

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Vivianne L (Aug 31 2020 3:03PM) : 3) The Mexican Families group together after finding out about the separate schools to talk about this situation and many agreed to break the law by not sending their kids to school. They called themselves the Neighborhood Association of Lemon Grove.
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Emily V (Aug 31 2020 4:20PM) : time: 16-23 some of the mexican families united together in order to stop them from sending their children to a different school. they saw that they were being treated differently and if they went to that school they'd get handouts from the white school. more

the created the neighborhood association of lemon grove in order to boycott for their kids to have an equal education.

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Alondra R (Aug 31 2020 6:43PM) : Even within the Mexicans there was disagreement. Some argued to protest while other feared for their jobs. One of the ladies said their jobs wasn't as important as the future of their children. I totally respect that.
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Alondra R (Aug 31 2020 6:54PM) : The dispute between Roberto´s mom and the man was intense but I liked the fact of how she stood her ground. Roberto had great translating skills throughout the whole conversation.
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:46PM) : I agree!
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Guadalupe A (Aug 31 2020 9:01PM) : time 19:08 the lady was saying that times were though but that did not stop them. They had to keep there heads up for their kids,
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:36PM) : Beautiful!
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Nicole G (Sep 01 2020 5:55PM) : time:6:27 The school board discussed segregating schools because they believed that Mexicans were slowing down other students by not knowing English. They also ended up basing the decision on their own opinions instead of hearing the parents' thoughts.
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Nicole G (Sep 01 2020 6:13PM) : time:10:43 To teach Mexican students English, they were put in separate classrooms.These were called Americanization classes and were made so they would learn more since they were all learning the same thing and at the same pace.
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Nicole G (Sep 01 2020 6:34PM) : Time:19:28 The Mexican parents were not happy about the separate schools and knew that just because their children were Mexican they were being treated differently. They didn't find it fair that their kids had to go to what they referred to as a "barn".
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Fabian L (Sep 02 2020 12:42PM) : 8-15 once the Mexicans came to America they made their own community in order to find jobs.
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Alondra R (Sep 02 2020 12:44PM) : The mexican parents meet with lawyers that are supportive of their cause of not segregating schools. The lawyers sit down with them and tell them that they are fully supporting them . This relieves the mexican parents. [Edited]
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Fabian L (Sep 02 2020 12:45PM) : 16-23The parents are mad because their kids are being sent to barns instead of school [Edited]
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Emily V (Sep 02 2020 12:46PM) : time (24-27) some kids didnt go to the new school because the parents thought it was unfair. they threatened people with taking their warfare and sending the family to immigration.
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Alondra R (Sep 02 2020 12:51PM) : The opposing lawyer while questioning Roberto tried to use higher academic words in order to confuse him.
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Alondra R (Sep 03 2020 5:29PM) : The lawyer was trying to do this in order to confuse Roberto and prove a point that the Mexicans children were so far behind that they should attend the ¨Mexican Only School¨.
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 1:01PM) : By 1930, half of the students were mexicans. This was seen as a threat to the white people.
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Emily V (Sep 02 2020 1:01PM) : time (28-36) the parents who made the meeting had called the mexican council to help them with the situation; they agreed to help them. the people who were trying to separate the schools had their own meeting and said that they are losing money because more

they’re out of school. a reporter had visited them and lied that mexicans have a leader which is why they are boycotting. he said “these are not like our mexican.” they had took the school council to court.

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Yanet V (Sep 02 2020 1:06PM) : Time:38:19 They are asking a mexican-american child if he wants to go back to regular school with the rest of the other kids. Then the kid begins to say things he does at school and the lawyer saying he's lying. [Edited]
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Emily V (Sep 02 2020 4:34PM) : time (36-43) roberto was a 12 year old student who was able to represent the mexican children in court. they argued that the only reason they built the school was to make mexican students not feel less because of the english speaking kids. one of the more

teachers said that because mexican kids lived in poverty that meant they were not qualified to be in the white school and leave them behind.

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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 6:56PM) : 4) Mr. Loveless? I think is his name. Went around telling mexican parents to send their kids to school. He would even threaten them so they would go to school. In this situation he threaten to call immigration on this family to get them deported.
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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 7:02PM) : 5) Mexicans went to complain to the Mexican Consulate, and ask Mr. Noon to help stop the segregation going on in Lemon Grove. Mr. Noon agrees with helping them. They are upset with how the school & school board is treating their kids.
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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 7:09PM) : 5(2) ) As the mexican parents found out about the school they stopped sending their kids and the school board has gotten bad publicity because of this.
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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 7:14PM) : 6) This is the start of the Roberto Alvarez vs. the Board of Trustees of the Lemon Grove School District. As Roberto goes up to the stand he gets asked question about Carter Smith who only spoke english and not spanish but was in the class...
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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 7:17PM) : 6(2) )...for spanish speakers. The other lawyer tries to confuse Roberto with a complex question to make it seem that he doesn't know english. But, the judge objects this question.
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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 7:30PM) : 7) Mr. Anderson tries to sell lies to the Judge. Lying about it being safer for the Mexicans to go to school and knowing if the students could speak english or not. The judge gives his ruling and Roberto Alvarez wins this case.
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Vivianne L (Sep 02 2020 7:35PM) : 8) One of the Lemon Grove School District people tries to want to appeal the case. The Lemon Grove School District gives up on trying to segregate them as they lost money.
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Vivianne L (Sep 03 2020 12:28PM) : 2.2) What makes the School Board think this is a good idea to not tell the parents? Why did they think it would make a difference if they sent them to a different school if they're learning the same thing?
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Emily V (Sep 03 2020 3:30PM) : time (44-52) when mr. anderson was also in court; they knew that the mexicans didn't like him because the way he treated them, they even boycotted his gas station. it was also relevant that some mexican children lived right across the school. many of the more

students were citizens as well. the judge then allowed all of the mexican students go back to school and all the mexican children were happy even people outside the community were relieved.

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Emily V (Sep 03 2020 3:37PM) : time (53-end) the secretary of the PTA wanted to take legal action and was against the mexican children going to the school but they couldn't. a student from the school who was older now said that they very much deserved to go to that school more

because they were hardworking people. the bliss bill was turned down, this helped all the mexican children pass as indians so they can go to school.

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Alondra R (Sep 03 2020 6:41PM) : (49:36 ) Mr.Anderson is testifying and the prescuating lawyers asks him that if the mexican children were to be Americanized would they be sent be back to the school. more

He also includes that the barn school is not only close to the Mexicans homes but also some whites.

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Alondra R (Sep 03 2020 6:53PM) : Lemon grove did not have the Mexican children segregated . Although in other parts in CA there was attempts to have Mexicans to be categorized as Indians. In 1947 there was five Mexican American parents in Santa Ana, CA who fought a state-wide ruling .
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Diego B (Sep 03 2020 6:57PM) : he reporter tells Andy Anderson that the town seems peaceful and how could that have happened. He responds by saying that the mexicans don't act that way and that they must be following orders from someone.
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Diego B (Sep 03 2020 6:59PM) : hence. the Mexicans had won the case. Some board members wanted to continue fighting it but already spent money and attempted it in many ways. The white's had to just go with it, and deal with it in their own ways.
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Diego B (Sep 03 2020 7:01PM) : he appeared to talk to Roberto's mother because they have not been attending the new school. She isn't scared of him, so he threatens to call immigration on them if she doesn't listen.
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Melina M (Sep 06 2020 8:49PM) : It was the school boards idea to make this other school for the mexicans. The people of the school board signed their own petition to separate the whites and mexicans.
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Melina M (Sep 06 2020 8:53PM) : 44:36
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Melina M (Sep 06 2020 9:05PM) : That the new school location would be easier for the children, yet some students live far away from it. As well some white kids living closer to the new school. Why shouldn't the white kids go there if they live closer to the new school than the other.
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Melina M (Sep 06 2020 9:08PM) : Theyre asking why should the mexican kids go there even though some already know spanish and live far away from the new school, and live closer to the old school where the white kids go (48:41)
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Allen A (Sep 07 2020 8:05PM) : 44-52 The school board lost in court as the other lawyer brought up the argument that the other school isn't helping anyone as all the problems its supposed to solve are still there and it even causes problems for others.
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Allen A (Sep 07 2020 8:34PM) : One of the ladies in the school board wanted to take the situation to a higher court but the rest decided they couldn't because they could not afford to, they already spent money on the new school, going to court, and now they had to pay fees because lost
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Allen A (Sep 07 2020 8:37PM) : 0-7 They school board was trying to find a way to seperate the students by race in favor of the whites.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 12:28AM) : Exacty, they are finding many ways to seperate the color students from the white students and their school also.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 12:38AM) : 8-15 Mexicans,colors and whites students are in seperate classes.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 12:40AM) : 16-23 Mexican stading up for their students and saying they are also paying for the school so they also have the right to have their students in the same class their paying for it as the others.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 12:47AM) : 24-27 Mothers aren't sending thier children to the barn and their only going to send their children to reguar school when they accpet them in their.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 12:52AM) : 28-35 the consult wants to help out the mexicans students to have regular school as the others.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 1:02AM) : 36-43 In court talking about letting them go back to school and why they don't let them go to regular school.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 1:09AM) : 44-52 asked mr own who is the segergation he said his wife and the guy said theirs family fairs.
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Rosa Z (Sep 08 2020 2:15AM) : 53-end Finding ways to win and take down the mexicans in different forms.
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Sofia M (Aug 31 2020 12:50PM) : It's takes place I think in San Diego.It is also filmed
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Estefania H (Aug 31 2020 12:53PM) : It does take place in San Diego, California.
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Myira M (Aug 31 2020 12:57PM) : it seem the white family more specifically the mom from white thinks the mexican kids are not hygienic
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:53PM) : What do you think about that?
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Myira M (Aug 31 2020 1:18PM) : well from this part of the video i can see all the white kids judging the mexican kid who entered the room
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Sofia M (Aug 31 2020 12:53PM) : It's gonna be I think based on real life event's.
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Natalia N (Aug 31 2020 2:44PM) : Yes! This really happened!
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Melina M (Aug 31 2020 1:04PM) : This segregation took at 1954
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:44PM) : Actually, the introduction includes a reference to the 1954 US Supreme Court case that ended segregation. This case was in 1930 and helped pave the way for the 1954 case.
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Guadalupe A (Aug 31 2020 8:32PM) : It was a struggle for white people to accept that their race wasnt the only ones going to schhol.
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Yanet V (Sep 02 2020 1:16AM) : The lemon grove school board had called a meeting because they're were to many complaints about mexican-american children going to the same school as the white kids. The mexican families were not too happy that their children are going to school in a farm [Edited]
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Estefania H (Aug 31 2020 12:52PM) : The white parents didn't want mexicans in the Lemon Grove elementary school.
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:39PM) : Why not?
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Estefania H (Aug 31 2020 12:55PM) : The Mexicans and the Anglos didn't live on the same side of the town.They were in separate parts of the small town.
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Natalia N (Aug 31 2020 2:46PM) : To me, that is why being together at school was so important. How else are people supposed to learn about each other?
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Melina M (Aug 31 2020 1:09PM) : The whites were starting to get worried at the growth of mexican children in the schools with their white children
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Natalia N (Aug 31 2020 2:47PM) : What do you think about this?
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:43PM) : Why?
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Jhonnatan T (Aug 31 2020 12:51PM) : trying to separate mexicans to different schools.
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:54PM) : What do you think about this?
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 12:41PM) : The school board is debating on whether or not to segregate the mexican children. They are doing this because of overcrowding, sanitation, and the mexican's slow learning process in school. [Edited]
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Alondra R (Aug 31 2020 6:15PM) : The meeting is called in order to address ¨the problem¨ of the schools being too overcrowded. They use racist suggestions such as mexicans not ¨speaking proper English¨ which could slow down the other students.
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:15PM) : The parents of Lemon Grove are suggesting that Mexican children should be segregated. They belive that because of them, the other students are learning at a much slower rate because most speak spanish, also its becoming overpopulated and unsanitary.
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Aileen Q (Aug 31 2020 12:51PM) : It seems as if only that lady cares about the Mexican people and doesn't feel better than them like the others. The other are just putting them down.
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Alejandro M (Aug 31 2020 9:13PM) : Time 0-7: The school board made a meeting for to try to solve a overpopulation of Mexican children at the grammar school by discussing, they got to the conclusion that their solution to that was to separate the school for the Mexican children of the distr
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Ariana O (Sep 03 2020 1:02PM) : When the school bored had a meeting regarding if the mexicans stay at the white school they didn't want them there because they thought they had diseases and were to slow to learn at the same past as the white kids.
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Ariana O (Sep 03 2020 1:17PM) : A lot of the mexicans worked in the packing house or the citrus orchard and by the 1930's there were nearly half of students that were Mexicans at the school and it threatened the white parents.
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 12:18AM) : When most of the mexicans came in the 1900's they had to build their own community to have some sort of job. When some of the schools starting having almost an equal amount of white kids and mexican the parents felt threatened.
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Yanet V (Sep 02 2020 1:20AM) : a lot of mexicans started coming to america in the 1900's to seek work and a better life.
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:54PM) : How is this significant in the context of this docu-drama?
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Yanet V (Sep 07 2020 12:54AM) : alot of mexicans started coming to america in the 1900's to seek for work and a better life. This is significant because it talks and shows us that mexicans struggled with racism and getting along.
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Melina M (Aug 31 2020 1:17PM) : Most mexicans in lemon groove had roots in Baja California
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:32PM) : I found it interesting and a good conservative way that the mexicans would stick together after comming down to the U.S. The video claims that they would make little communities how it was in mexico, and many of them baptized each others kids. They stick
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:32PM) : together, which is smart.
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Guadalupe A (Aug 31 2020 8:45PM) : I can relate because when I used to live near san diego my parents would also say the same thing. My first language was Spanish.
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Alondra R (Aug 31 2020 6:28PM) : I found it interesting on how one of the gentlemen talks about his parents expressing that ¨from the door outside they were in the US but from the door inside they were in mexico¨.
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Alondra R (Sep 03 2020 6:32PM) : I found this interesting because when your in school it'is all english but when you get home its most prominently Spanish.
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 1:10PM) : Some people may even have had to have family members teach them things such as reading and writing before school. They would need this to have opportunities such as jobs.
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Yamile B (Aug 31 2020 1:56PM) : This is something I relate to because at home with my family I speak only Spanish, but at school I speak English. I speak Spanish at home as it's my first language and it's a form of respect for my family as many don't speak English. [Edited]
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Melina M (Aug 31 2020 1:39PM) : To teach mexican kids english the schools put them into ¨Americanization classes¨
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 1:15PM) : Americanization classes seem to be similar to ELD classes that we had when I was in elementary school. But now, it is all for the benefit for students to be able to speak proper english.
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 12:25AM) : When the mexican kids went to school they had them separate from the white kids because they didn't think they could learn at the same paist.
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Aileen Q (Sep 02 2020 6:24PM) : They were not pushing education on the students at school but rather "manners". They were teaching them how to behave. In other words the whites didn't think the mexicans had manners they thought their class was bellow them.
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Allen A (Aug 31 2020 1:19PM) : They wanted to send the mexican students to the new school without informing the parents, believing they would be okay with it.
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Allen A (Sep 07 2020 8:47PM) : 14:36 they believed if they sent a note home there would be problems but wouldn't that save them time from having more problems when its too late
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Alejandro M (Aug 31 2020 9:32PM) : Time 8-15: Mexicans came later of the Mexican revolution, some Mexicans were seeking for work in the booming border region during the 1920 Mexicans created Mexicans varrios similars to Mexico. Mexicans parents was mad because their kinds could normal scho
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 1:20PM) : The parents of the mexican children had meetings and were discussing how they thought it was unfair that they are children would have to go to school in a barn segregated from the white children.
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 12:31AM) : The parents were upset with the school because instead of learning at school the school wanted them to learn in barns and that upset all the parents.
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Melina M (Aug 31 2020 7:48PM) : The white people wanted to send the little mexican kids to a barn instead of a school to learn.
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:42PM) : What do you think about that?
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Ritchy V (Aug 31 2020 1:14PM) : The parents are mad because their kids are being sent to barns instead of a normal school. They think they are being discriminated because they are mexicans.
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Yanet V (Sep 02 2020 1:22AM) : At this moment of time mexican american children were getting treated badly while the white kids are getting treated good. The mexican families wanted to go to court for the problem. [Edited]
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 1:22PM) : The parents are upset because they pay taxes to support the school, but yet their children are going to end up being taught in a barn. One parents explains that her son learned English from attending school with the white kids.
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Alejandro M (Aug 31 2020 9:39PM) : The Mexican parents was mad because the Americans wanted to separate their children to a special school only for Mexicans that notice for the Mexican parents was like an Umillation.
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Yamile B (Aug 31 2020 2:09PM) : The Mexican families find it humiliating that they want to send their children to a barn which will be their new school. They take action by refusing to send their children to "school".
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:40PM) : Honestly it's really unfair to the mexican families, how they're being treated, whites have always felt superior to other races. It's embarrassing how they're not being treated fairly, especially since the parents have the same priorities, moving the
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:44PM) : Children to a barn? If you think about it, who would want that for their child, and they'd get hand me down on top of that, it's not right. They're making life more difficult and changing educational opportunities all because they're treating them
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:44PM) : inferior because of race.
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Mariah V (Sep 02 2020 1:24PM) : The parents are debating on whether or not to take a chance on the new school. Other parents believe they need to take a stand for their children.
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Ritchy V (Sep 08 2020 11:04AM) : The mexican kids weren't allowed to enter the school only the whites. They were told to leave to the new school.
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Aileen Q (Sep 02 2020 6:37PM) : Some parents decided to strike and not send their kids to school after winter break while others didn't. When those who didn't strike and arrived to school after winter break were immediately segregated from the whites.
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Aileen Q (Sep 02 2020 6:39PM) : Due to the boycott later on many mexicans were forced to leave back to mexico.
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Allen A (Sep 02 2020 12:48PM) : The parents were upset that their children would not be going to the same school and felt it was unjust to seperat the children by race and have the mexicans kids go to a barn
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Allen A (Sep 07 2020 8:49PM) : The mexican parents had gathered and discussed about the situation and how it was wrong of the school board to do what they were doing.
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Alejandro M (Sep 03 2020 7:03AM) : Time 24-27: This part of the video is about how the Americans was being unfair whit the Mexicans becuase they was trying that the children of the Mexicans would go to the new school only for Mexican children.
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Fabian L (Sep 02 2020 12:47PM) : The Mexican American kids were not able to enter normal school with the Americans.
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Guadalupe A (Sep 02 2020 12:39PM) : the guy was telling the mom that the kids should be at school. The mexican american kids were segregated.
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 12:40AM) : The parents were very mad at the school because they were not letting their kids go in the school to learn.
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Yanet V (Sep 02 2020 1:29AM) : mexican-american children were not allowed to be in regular school with the white kids. Instead the mexican children had no choice but to go to school in a farm. [Edited]
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Melina M (Sep 02 2020 12:48PM) : People from the school are noticing that the mexican kids aren't attending school, so some showed up at their houses to see why and the mexican parents explained that they want the same equality as white kids to o to a normal school.
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Melina M (Sep 02 2020 1:13PM) : They did this to scare the parents but the parents didn't give in to make sure the mexican council can see that this new school is basically segregating the whites with mexicans.
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Yamile B (Sep 02 2020 12:45PM) : This man came to talk to Roberto's mother because they have not been attending the new school. She isn't scared of him, so he threatens to call immigration on them if she doesn't listen.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:23PM) : It angers me to see this Lady and son being threatened like this by a white man.He shouldn't use his power from his job to force them to do anything they aren't comfortable with doing.
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Aileen Q (Sep 02 2020 6:45PM) : They are threatening the families who don't send their children to the new school. But parents are still not giving in.
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:51PM) : It makes me furious at the fact that the white man was threatening the mexican families rights. It's obvious this is a racial situation and parents are upset about it. It's a crazy thought to me that county holds that much power, and can instantly scare a
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 4:52PM) : family by reporing them.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:27PM) : I agree with you Liliana. I too think it is crazy that this man could hold so much power to threaten them in such a harsh way.
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Nicole G (Sep 02 2020 12:47PM) : Since the Mexican family did not want to send their kids to the new school, they were reported to the county for breaking the law. Because of that, the support payments they were being given were taken away and they were deported back to Mexico.
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Allen A (Sep 02 2020 12:55PM) : the family was deported because they were not sending their kids to the new "school" at first they were only going to be reported but they decided to take it further by calling immigration.
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Fabian L (Sep 02 2020 12:49PM) : Mexican families did not like the idea of the kids being segregated. [Edited]
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Alejandro M (Sep 03 2020 7:14AM) : on this part of the video the Mexican parents asked for the help of the Mexican government because that problem what out of the hands and then the Americans received the notice that the Mexicans called to their government for help they was nervous
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Guadalupe A (Sep 02 2020 12:49PM) : The Hispanic parents went to the Mexican consult to explain to the people why the Mexican kids had to go to a separate "school." The Hispanic parents refuse sending their kids to that school.
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 12:48AM) : There were families that got deported when they would be confronted by the school and speake what was on their mind.
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Yanet V (Sep 02 2020 1:32AM) : the family's of the mexican- american children don't like the idea of the kids being segregated. [Edited]
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 12:49PM) : Why not?
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Yanet V (Sep 07 2020 12:45AM) : The mexican families children don't like the idea of being segregated. They didn't like it because the wanted to learn with the other kids.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:34PM) : I believe it was very brave of the parents to write a letter in hopes to help their children. They are doing everything they can to make sure their children are treated with the same respect as the white kids.
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Liliana S (Sep 02 2020 12:55PM) : They claim there's no excuse for making a new school because all it's doing is segregating the Mexican children. The parents have every right in a say in this decision because they're obligated to pay taxes and do funding for the school. [Edited]
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Melina M (Sep 02 2020 12:54PM) : The mexican council are talking about this whole sending the mexican kids to a barn to learn english, is just a way to segregate the mexican kids from the white kids.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:38PM) : Mr.Lovelace is explaining how this is to just segregate all of the Mexican children and give them inferior education.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:39PM) : I am happy to see that he agrees with the parents and is going to help them.
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Nicole G (Sep 02 2020 8:23PM) : The Mexican parents had went to the Mexican government for help with what to do. Senor Consul was on their side because he too believed that the americanization school was just an excuse to segregate the students and give Mexicans an inferior education.
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Allen A (Sep 02 2020 1:10PM) : The mexican community is seeking help to send their children back to school. The school board is loosing money because of low attendence from the mexican community and are trying to find a way to blame it on something else which might be the mexican gove
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Yamile B (Sep 02 2020 1:00PM) : The Mexican parents decide to take this situation to court.Consul Ferria decides to give them his support because he's aware that the new school is just a hoax to separate the Mexican children from the whites.
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Aileen Q (Sep 02 2020 6:53PM) : The mexican parents have filed legal papers in the supreme court against the school board. The whites are being narcissist and don't see anything wrong with their actions.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:42PM) : It seems that these people only care about how they look. They are worried about attendance rates and they are losing money from the state.
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Ritchy V (Sep 03 2020 4:30PM) : The reporter tells Andy Anderson that the town seems peaceful and how could that have happened. He responds by saying that the mexicans don't act that way and that they must be following orders from someone.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:46PM) : Andy Anderson tells this reporter that he believes the mexican are taking orders from maybe a organization from Mexico. This makes me mad because we can see that Andy just wants himself and his peers to look innocent.
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Guadalupe A (Sep 02 2020 1:06PM) : They chose Robert Alvarez to fight in court.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:51PM) : Roberto Alvarez represented the Mexican community. He was smart, hard working,and he excelled in school.
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 1:00AM) : mexicans were starting to worry when they heard that segregating the white and the mexicans were going to be a law.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:54PM) : Carter Smith is a child put in the seperate class for spanish speaking children. He speaks English and does not understand spanish.This is a sign of racism to me and it is absurd that they just happened to put him in the class.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:58PM) : I find it utterly disrespectful for Miss Markman to even say that the reason for the new school is to make the Mexican children less embarrassed about their learning abilities. If they really thought white children were 100% of the time better learners t
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 2:59PM) : than Mexicans, Why not start groups to help them? Why segregate them into another school? That is embarrassing in my opinion.
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Yamile B (Sep 02 2020 1:10PM) : According to the teacher many of the Mexican students are behind in her class ranging from 1-2 years behind in learning. She seems to approve of this new Amercianzation school, although she says she has no prejudice against the Mexican students.
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Yamile B (Sep 02 2020 1:13PM) : She blames sanitization as the problem as to why the Mexican students can't concentrate in school.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:01PM) : Has Miss Markman ever maybe though that she was not doing her job correctly? Maybe she was not helping these students enough and she went too fast and she is the problem here. But no, they automatically assume that its the student's fault.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:03PM) : I believe that if this teacher was truly concerned with the education of these children, she would offer other methods to help them herself. I believe she is seeing race over education here.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:05PM) : This teacher should offer to give these students books. She is complaining about how these families are in poverty, but yet she also complains that they don't have materials to learn. She is selfish because she isn't offering to help them at all.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:07PM) : This teacher says sanitation is a problem for these kids, but they're not helping them by sending to learn in a barn. These people seem to just want the children away from them.
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 5:49PM) : Both the perspectives were examined in the court. The teacher gives reasoning as to why she believes they should have a new school for the mexican children which is because they're falling behind 1-2 years, she claims she doesn't want them to feel inferio
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 5:51PM) : she gives her own opinion, about how most families live in poverty. There's only 2 teachers, and she only has one year of experience. It wasn't nessacary for her opinion in my eyes because I doubt she's even trying to be patient with each student
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 5:53PM) : it's a teachers job to give everyone undivided attention, and abilities to their full potential and make sure no one's falling behind, it will only make it easier for her part and not the students nor the families.
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Allen A (Sep 02 2020 1:29PM) : they are in court with robert against the school board
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Nicole G (Sep 02 2020 9:10PM) : Both sides gave their perspectives at court.The school board argued the new school would help them since most were behind and the Mexican side argued why the Mexican students were segregated when they were behind,but white students who were behind weren't
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Alejandro M (Sep 03 2020 7:25AM) : on this part of the video the Mexicans brought the case to the court because they was unfair with the American decision of segregate to the Mexican children so the case was being fought
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Melina M (Sep 02 2020 1:09PM) : In the court they were continuing to say why were the mexican kids segregated when needed extra help. Yet when a white child is confused they are simply held back a year. [Edited]
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Fabian L (Sep 04 2020 12:57PM) : During court they were explaining that why were mexican kids segregated when they needed more help and extra help
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Fabian L (Sep 04 2020 12:58PM) : A women from the school board wants to take the case to a higher court but the rest of the board does not agree with that idea because it would cost more money
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 1:14AM) : The school and the mexicans went to court so the mexicans can have some kind of justice and show that the school was being racist.
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Yamile B (Sep 04 2020 10:35AM) : Mr. Anderson justifies the reason why they built a new school for the Mexican children is just for their safety. And supposedly once the Mexican students are Americanized, they shall return back to school with the white students.
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 6:06PM) : The board didn't even ask the Mexican parents how they felt about the new school, or didn't even take their thoughts into consideration. They did it as an act of selfishness and what they tought was better for THEIR children and not all of them.
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Guadalupe A (Sep 07 2020 6:44PM) : The Mexican parents should have been asked how they felt about theirs kids new school. It would be a whole different experience with white parents because they would have gaven them a chance to give their opinions.
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Nicole G (Sep 03 2020 5:33PM) : Mr. Anderson argued that the new school would be safer for Mexicans so they wouldn't have to cross to the east side of town, but some Mexicans lived on the same side of the regular school so they'd still have to cross to the other side of town to get [Edited] more

to the new school. Some white students even lived on the west side of town where the new school was, but were also having to cross to the other side of town to get to the regular school so the school board couldn’t use trying to make it safer for Mexicans as an excuse.

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Yanet V (Sep 07 2020 1:02AM) : The people from the court are saying that if the pupils of mexican percentage were americanlize the kids are able to go back to school. Then they are saying 95% of the kids already speak english and they are considering to send the kids back earlier.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:17PM) : Mr. Anderson has done his research on the Mexican students. He would rather be racist and assume that they all don't know English, and only want to know the little details that could possibly support the segregation.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:20PM) : The Judge has explained that He sees this as unfair, and it is important for the mexican students to be around whites so that they can learn English.He makes many other points as to why the segregation is not right.
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Guadalupe A (Sep 07 2020 6:53PM) : The Mexicans won the case. The judge explained how unfair it was too the Mexican kids to not have a proper education.
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Alejandro M (Sep 03 2020 10:40PM) : On this part of the video the lawyers was trying to win by discusing the situation that was happening the lawyer of the part of the Mexicans was defending the desegregation and the other lawyer was trying segregate at the end of the court the Mexicans won
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Melina M (Sep 06 2020 9:13PM) : The mexicans won the trial and are no going to a normal school with everyone else. When going back they can now socialize with the whites and other race kids together, not segregated.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:23PM) : The student that represented the mexican community in that case says now that the American community welcomed them back. It seems that the people trying to kick them out were just the school board, and he PTA.
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Nicole G (Sep 03 2020 5:49PM) : In the end, the Mexican had won the case and there was no separate school for Mexican students in Lemon Grove. The school board decided to "live with this decision" since they couldn't afford to appeal the case and continue the situation.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:25PM) : Claire believes they should appeal the case, but they already have to pay a lot of money for all the attorneys. One guy says that the publicity has damaged Lemon Groves reputation.
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Yamile B (Sep 04 2020 10:48AM) : A lady from the school board wants to appeal the case and go to a higher court. Yet the rest of the board doesn't agree with her because that would cost more money, and they don't have the money right now and they are aware that they might lose. [Edited]
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Liliana S (Sep 03 2020 6:11PM) : Finally, he Mexicans had won the case. Some board members wanted to continue fighting it but already spent money and attempted it in many ways. The white's had to just go with it, and deal with it in their own ways.
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Yanet V (Sep 07 2020 1:21AM) : The people from the court are saying that if the pupils of mexican percentage were americanize the kids are able to go back to school. Then they are saying 95% of the kids already speak english and they are considering to send the kids back earlier.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:29PM) : One important thing was the group of parents that decided to fight this case. They were fresh out of Mexico, and some with limited education.They were fighting for their children who many were American citizens.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:34PM) : Segregation of Mexican American children did continue until 1947 when 5 Mexican AMerican parents won a ruling prohibiting segregation of Mexican AMerican children.
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:35PM) : The practice of segregation of all race was illegal in 1954. Brown vs. Board of Education
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Ariana O (Sep 09 2020 1:27AM) : After the mexicans won the battle the kids no longer had to be seperated and a few years later there was a law for all schools to be seperate.
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Alejandro M (Sep 03 2020 10:47PM) : On this part of the video the school board was in a meeting and one of them said that was sufficient becuase themselves hurts their reputation but was very not agree with the result
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Mariah V (Sep 07 2020 3:36PM) : I enjoyed this docurama because I feel like I know more about our history. I feel that it is important to know about this, and have knowledge of how we have been shaped in society.

Examine Roberto Alvarez vs. the Board of Trustees of the Lemon Grove School District, the first successful school desegregation court decision in the history of the United States.

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Sofia M (Aug 31 2020 8:47PM) : It made an introduction. It's gonna be about segregation.
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Jesusita G (Aug 31 2020 2:53PM) : the school board met to talk about how the mexican kids need to have their own school [Edited]
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 8:37PM) : What are their reasons?
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Yamile B (Aug 31 2020 2:57PM) : The lady talks about the Mexican families as if she were disgusted by them. The majority seem to agree with each other to separate the kids, except for one of the lady's. more
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Natalia N (Aug 31 2020 10:41PM) : Great observations. It is so disappointing that they show that disgust. It is also important to not that they were not all in complete agreement.
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Vivianne L (Aug 31 2020 2:59PM) : The women with short hair says"Do you really think they'd want that?"after being told that mexicans want segregated schools by one of the white men. Why do they think that they can speak on this situation when they aren't even mexican?
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 8:41PM) : Good question. What do you think?
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Jesusita G (Aug 31 2020 9:00PM) : 8-15 is explaining the way the school was for the students and their point of view
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 8:38PM) : What were some of those perspectives and what did you think about them?
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Fabian L (Aug 31 2020 3:00PM) : Lemon grove school board called a special meeting because some residents were concerned about the growing numbers of Mexican American children in the elementary school
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Juan V (Aug 31 2020 9:06PM) : They want to seperate Mexicans and white because the Mexicans cant speak english good.
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Vivianne L (Aug 31 2020 4:47PM) : 2) The School Board decided to still build the new school to segregate the Mexicans and Whites and chose not to notify the Mexican parents of this decision of their kids moving schools because they knew it would cause problems.
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Natalia N (Sep 02 2020 8:40PM) : What are your thoughts about this?
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Vanessa G (Sep 02 2020 8:47PM) : The white people did not like that mexican kids were attending the same school as the white kids.
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Vanessa G (Sep 02 2020 8:49PM) : There making separate schools for the whites and mexicans
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