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Section II: The Statistics
The United States incarcerates more of its citizens than any other nation in the world.
The jail and prison population has gone from less than 200,000 in 1972 to 2.2 million today.
Incarceration in the United Stateshas increased by more than 500% in the last 40 years.
The United States makes up about 5% of the world’s population and has 21% of the world’s prisoners.
4.6 million people were on probation or parole in 2015 for a total of 6.7 million people in America under some form of criminal justice supervision
1 in every 37 adults in the United States, or 2.7% of the adult population, is under some form of correctional supervision.
As of 2007, more than half of those incarcerated were parents of children under the age of 18.
The number of Americans with criminal records is about the same as the number of Americans with a 4-year degree.
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Which statistic did you find the most concerning?
Why?
Consider our past consideration of inequality in the criminal justice system.
How might inequality and mass incarceration impact each other?
Why do you predict the United States has so many more people in prison than other countries?
Looking forward: What do you think is the cause of mass incarceration?
Janae Glakser(Mar 16 2020 3:09PM):
The Unites States is a nation that has a large number of minorities with majority in power. When this occurs, there is often injustice in the legal system. This is because there is no relatedness to those being mistreated.(continued in full comment sect.)
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The Unites States is a nation that has a large number of minorities with majority in power. When this occurs, there is often injustice in the legal system. This is because there is no relatedness to those in power, majority, to those being mistreated,the minority. As stated in the video, “nowhere in the world incarcerates as much as we (Americans) do”. This is because in any other nation, the minority is the majority.
Student Que Howard(Mar 18 2020 6:28PM):
I agree, there is not much diversity in the legal order system. So minorities will never have anyone that knows the struggle of being them.
Kaleenda Gold(Mar 18 2020 11:38PM):
I agree with completely. America has a lot more diversity than a lot of countries. Because there's more diversity, we can't all relate to each other. The majority can't relate to our experiences as minorities, so we have higher incarceration rates.
Imani Lowe(Apr 27 2020 7:11PM):
I completely agree. I feel that minorities have been discriminated against for so long, when they gain power, other groups are afraid the minorities will do to them as they have done to the minorities.
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What better way to avoid that then putting them in prison? In addition to the hardships of already being discriminated against as a minority, they have to face not being able to get jobs, stability, or provide for themselves which a lot of times lead to them being repeated offenders.
Sonabelle Konte(Mar 18 2020 3:48PM):
Many kids don't have a role model, from the people that they bare around, because they are in a loop hole of their own
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With this being done, messes up many young kids lives. People get stuck ti what they do. and cannot get out of it, and with these poor decisions that they come around, it not only affect the kids but also influence the people that they are around.
Student Kiera Carlton(Mar 18 2020 6:15PM):
I agree, because teens and children follow what they see. They use what they see in the world as a guideline for what to do. This age is also the prime age for setting morals. So when teens and children are exposed to the real world with a role model they
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Student Kiera Carlton(Mar 18 2020 6:12PM):
The Unites States is a nation has a large number of minorities with the ( white people with wealth) majority in power. When this occurs, there is often injustice in the legal system, because the two parties have trouble understanding the others issues and
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hardships. America has such a wealth divide that it makes it hard for the majority to relate but even so the majority only sees the minorities as less than and that the can do no good. Evidence of this is the rate of incarceration. The videos even state the fact that America has the largest incarceration rate in the world.
Student Que Howard(Mar 18 2020 6:24PM):
This is because the United States has a harsh discrimination on convicts, they judge people whether they try o turn their life around or not and also still judge them if they succeed. They need to do better at helping convicts out when they are back out.
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Kaleenda Gold(Mar 19 2020 12:22AM):
The U.S. has a high incarceration rate because of the unjust criminal system we have. Some people don't even get trials and are sent straight to prison. Some people, like minorities, are tried for small crimes and are given harsh punishments.
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There are many people in prison that shouldn’t be there, and instead should be getting rehab.
Sarah Sanquiche(Mar 18 2020 12:42PM):
the reason i believe why our system is imprisoning more people today is because the convictions has been extended for more prison time
Kennedi Williams(Mar 18 2020 7:32PM):
I have a theory, America's work, economic, agricultural, and government system was built on the idea and use of slavery from african american labor. So i think over the past 40 years as incarcenrates i have gone up, that has been Americas
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new form of modern day slavery since its been abolished.
Hailey Griffin(Mar 17 2020 11:21AM):
The United States makes up so little of the world's population yet we have the highest incarceration rates. Not only do we have the highest rates but after going to jail theres not much to be done once you are out because that forever stays on record.
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CHLOE' JORDAN(Mar 17 2020 4:50PM):
i also agree with you. its hard for those who were once incarcerated to try and turn their life around once theyre released so they return to crime
india brown(Mar 18 2020 2:12PM):
I agree with you because once people get out of prison they are forever looked at as criminals and bad people despite all of the abilities they are capable of.
Alyssa Fields(Mar 18 2020 2:49PM):
I agree with you because many people who been incarcerated have a hard time to turn their life around and stay out of prison but their past is always following them and when they try to get a job they get denied so they go right back to crime.
Imani Lowe(Apr 27 2020 7:24PM):
America was built on the expectations of equality, freedom, and for everyone's voice to be heard and yet the complete opposite is seen in our modern day times.
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Not only are we set up to fail, but us rebelling just adds on to our mass incarceration rates. We make up only 5 percent of the worlds population and yet we have 21 percent of the worlds prisoners. If you think about it, every aspect of our lives are controlled by the system in some way, shape, or form. Especially because today, we use technology in mostly everything, making our personal business more accessible and able to be controlled. We are only “free” under the systems control, rules, and regulations. Prisons are the only legal form of modern day enslavement, being that slavery is abolished.
Zybrea Rogers(Apr 26 2020 1:58PM):
Most people are on probation due to the crime they have made and have to be watched for an daily update on their mindset and some people can smoke legal drugs anymore just so they can have freedom but its better than being behind bars.
india brown(Mar 18 2020 2:20PM):
The U.S. incarcerating parents of young children is making the percentile of the children growing up & getting in trouble more likely whereas if their parent was there they could try to help them not follow in their foot steps.
Zybrea Rogers(Apr 26 2020 1:55PM):
I agree because most people do grow up with broken homes and do go to the streets for guidance which they dont realize is actually the wrong guidance they look for the love they dont get at home
Alyssa Fields(Mar 18 2020 2:56PM):
Parents who our incarcerated with children under the age 18 will most likely get into more trouble and end up in the system because they don't know any better if they see there parent going in and out of jail.
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There parent will not be able to tell the from wrong or right. Children that gets taken away from their parents and our jumping from home to home will probably end up in the system also so this is messing up children’s life at a very young age.
Kennedi Williams(Mar 18 2020 7:34PM):
I agree with Alyssa because it continues to push forward a viscous cycle of generational incarceration which also contributes to families living below the poverty line.
I agree with Alyssa Fields because the parents does has a big impact on their children lives their decisions comes from what they’ve experience with their parents as well
Miya Stallings(Mar 22 2020 9:40AM):
it is more than likely a teenager to get arrested because of struggle, lack of activities to do, lack of resources.
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With this being said a lot of parents who have young children that is getting incarcerated can also have an big influence on other kids life that is growing up as well. well I feel is an opportunity for those who are incarcerated to get others to not do the same as them. Parents have problems as well so they cannot always tend to their children some parents struggle and some parents have to work all day everyday so they cannot have no time to look out such as single women or single fathers. Do to this young children will then begin to make a way for themselves such as Money, Clothes, food and etc. BY robbing, stealing, and turning their backs on each other. will then lead to incarceration.
Charles Jamison(Mar 18 2020 2:23PM):
I think the reason we are imprisoning so many people is because people are stuck in cycles and they don’t know how to get out. They say it’s went up over the last 40 years and I think it started with parents was passed to the kids.
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They said in 2007 half of the incarnations were parents or children under 18, so if the kids see them going to jail and they’re still kids they’re gonna learn from that and do the same thing.
Ms. Kavonni Dunn(Mar 18 2020 2:17PM):
I think the US has so many more people in prison than other countries because the likelihood of imprisonment is high.
Student Kendall Collier(Mar 20 2020 5:48PM):
The United States incarcerates a lot of people. The rates still continue to rise and go up, but this causes a major problem as it effects their homes and families
Zykwann Holmes(Mar 24 2020 12:59PM):
The United States continues too incarcerate people making the rate go up but another thing is the fact that children look up too their parents and if the parents went too jail they may influence the children also causing an increase
CHLOE' JORDAN(Mar 17 2020 4:49PM):
The United States incarcerates more of its citizens than any other nation in the world
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The United States incarcerates more of its citizens than any other nation in the world. I think thats a problem because also its more black men than any other race thats being incarcerated. which is also causing broken families within the black community which then leads to younger kids without a father figure and they end up going down the wrong road someday
Janae Glakser(Mar 17 2020 5:45PM):
I agree, there is a cycle of black men being incarcerated which creates disruption in the prisoner's families. Not only is the family structure broken, but the family bonds are as well.
Student Kendall Collier(Mar 20 2020 5:44PM):
I agree, many young black men and other race children without a family does great a hole and a problem in the family which usually causes a problem when their older.
Hailey Griffin(Mar 18 2020 10:35AM):
The United States incarcerates so many people. Yet the rates continue to go up by year. It destabilizes homes and families.
Sarah Sanquiche(Mar 18 2020 12:47PM):
i agree withyou because yes it can affect a household because usually they depend on their significant other to provide financial support
Jalynn King(Mar 18 2020 3:00PM):
I agree with you Sarah you have others surrounded by you in your household that looks up to u and some homes can be poor with no food or nothing so it affects them
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But yes the untied states incarcerates more of the citizens
Jaquille Bryant(Apr 15 2020 12:18AM):
The united States incarnates and put a lot of people on Parole. The rate grows each year with families getting destroyed. This is mostly true to black communities where many black people are incarnated for reasons unexplained.
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The Unites States is a nation that has a large number of minorities with majority in power. When this occurs, there is often injustice in the legal system. This is because there is no relatedness to those in power, majority, to those being mistreated,the minority. As stated in the video, “nowhere in the world incarcerates as much as we (Americans) do”. This is because in any other nation, the minority is the majority.
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What better way to avoid that then putting them in prison? In addition to the hardships of already being discriminated against as a minority, they have to face not being able to get jobs, stability, or provide for themselves which a lot of times lead to them being repeated offenders.
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With this being done, messes up many young kids lives. People get stuck ti what they do. and cannot get out of it, and with these poor decisions that they come around, it not only affect the kids but also influence the people that they are around.
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create another loop in the system.
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hardships. America has such a wealth divide that it makes it hard for the majority to relate but even so the majority only sees the minorities as less than and that the can do no good. Evidence of this is the rate of incarceration. The videos even state the fact that America has the largest incarceration rate in the world.
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There are many people in prison that shouldn’t be there, and instead should be getting rehab.
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new form of modern day slavery since its been abolished.
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I agree with you because after an inmate gets out of jail they will forever be looked at as a criminal
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Not only are we set up to fail, but us rebelling just adds on to our mass incarceration rates. We make up only 5 percent of the worlds population and yet we have 21 percent of the worlds prisoners. If you think about it, every aspect of our lives are controlled by the system in some way, shape, or form. Especially because today, we use technology in mostly everything, making our personal business more accessible and able to be controlled. We are only “free” under the systems control, rules, and regulations. Prisons are the only legal form of modern day enslavement, being that slavery is abolished.
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There parent will not be able to tell the from wrong or right. Children that gets taken away from their parents and our jumping from home to home will probably end up in the system also so this is messing up children’s life at a very young age.
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I agree with Alyssa Fields because the parents does has a big impact on their children lives their decisions comes from what they’ve experience with their parents as well
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With this being said a lot of parents who have young children that is getting incarcerated can also have an big influence on other kids life that is growing up as well. well I feel is an opportunity for those who are incarcerated to get others to not do the same as them. Parents have problems as well so they cannot always tend to their children some parents struggle and some parents have to work all day everyday so they cannot have no time to look out such as single women or single fathers. Do to this young children will then begin to make a way for themselves such as Money, Clothes, food and etc. BY robbing, stealing, and turning their backs on each other. will then lead to incarceration.
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They said in 2007 half of the incarnations were parents or children under 18, so if the kids see them going to jail and they’re still kids they’re gonna learn from that and do the same thing.
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yeah, i agree with you, because they like to keep their prisoners in for a long time, and that the cause of the high rates for prisoner.
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The United States incarcerates more of its citizens than any other nation in the world. I think thats a problem because also its more black men than any other race thats being incarcerated. which is also causing broken families within the black community which then leads to younger kids without a father figure and they end up going down the wrong road someday
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But yes the untied states incarcerates more of the citizens
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