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Section III: The Costs
Prison overcrowding
Strain on state budgets
In 2012 alone, the United States spent nearly $81 billion on corrections.
Spending on prisons and jails has increased at triple the rate of spending on Pre‐K‐12 public education in the last thirty years.
A criminal record can reduce the likelihood of a callback or job offer by nearly 50%.
The negative impact of a criminal record is twice as large for African American applicants.
Infectious diseases are highly concentrated in corrections facilities.
Does mass incarceration increase public safety?
Crime rates have declined substantially since the early 1990s, but studies suggest that rising imprisonment has not played a major role in this trend.
Incarceration is particularly ineffective at reducing certain kinds of crimes, particularly youth and drug crimes.
People tend to “age out” of crime.
Crime starts to peak in the mid- to late- teenage years and begins to decline when individuals are in their mid-20s.
It drops sharply as adults reach their 30s and 40s.
National Research Council: “Because recidivism rates decline markedly with age, lengthy prison sentences, unless they specifically target very high-rate or extremely dangerous offenders, are an inefficient approach to preventing crime by incapacitation.”
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Questions to consider:
From a cost perspective, why is mass incarceration an issue?
How does age play a role in whether or not mass incarceration is effective?
What do you think could be done to ensure public safety other than mass incarceration?
Looking forward: What do you predict are the causes of mass incarceration?
Student Que Howard(Mar 18 2020 6:30PM):
I feel like to reduce prison overcrowding they need to help the people who actually get out of prison get jobs, and hep them make a honest living.
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Its so overcrowded because whoever gets out more than likely will end right back in and thats just the sad truth.
I agree with Que Howard because inmates do not have a life outside of prison so if they have a little assistance then more than likely the overcrowded would be less crowded
Miya Stallings(Mar 22 2020 10:17AM):
Prison overcrowding is something that I see on social media everyday. I believe if we change some laws about somethings some prison will have space.
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In this society we have laws where you can go to jail for anything but no activities for anybody. when inmates get out of jails they have nothing to go to so they have no choice but to start doing the same thing they did when they was inside. In life you go through many different phases so I do believe in second chances or giving somebody an opportunity to do something they would like to do.
Kennedi Williams(Mar 18 2020 7:12PM):
The government puts too much money and resources into negative things. When all of these billions of dollars could be spent on bettering the education system. Building communities and setting up rehabilitation centers for those incarcerated.
Zykwann Holmes(Mar 24 2020 12:54PM):
I agree with this because if you look at statistics more money is being put into the jail system rather than colleges and the public school systems around America
Zykwann Holmes(Mar 24 2020 12:52PM):
The government puts so much money into the negative things around the world instead of focusing on the positive things such as mentoring programs and developing a better education system.It is not only the government but people like Michael Jordan also.
akirab08 Akira Brinson(Apr 27 2020 4:39PM):
I agree with Zykwann because It makes sense. The United States spends more than $80 billion annually on corrections. They don’t even spend that much on school/education.
akirab08 Akira Brinson(Apr 27 2020 5:07PM):
I feel like the government can do way better by cutting down on the pricing to make new jails. What they really could do is put mentoring programs and development programs in there to make up for the billions of dollars that they are spending.
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Instead of saving and spending $80 billion to make new jails and not new school, I think they should split the money at least. $40 billion towards schools & $40 billion towards jails.
Hailey Griffin(Mar 17 2020 11:30AM):
People already see african americans a minority and dont treat them fairly. So having a record added to that doesnt make it better for anyone but as a black person you feed into the stereotype.
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When mass incarceration happens a majority of the time it is black americans being imprisoned for something little or big. But once they are imprisoned for this to get a job later on their chances are significantly decreased. Which can land them back in jail. Going to jail takes away rights of the people and forever puts a target on their back.
CHLOE' JORDAN(Mar 17 2020 5:08PM):
i agree, i agree because most people who are sentenced for crimes like robbery or armed robbery. when theyre done with their sentence its hard for them to find a job with that on their record so they return to robbing to take care of themselves
Alyssa Fields(Mar 18 2020 3:05PM):
I agree, because when they our continuously getting denied for a job they go back to"jobs" where they most likely will end up going to back to jail, because they have to no choice to when they our in need to take care of themselves.
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You cant get a regular job when people look at your background and automatically see you as a criminal from you pass.
Student Que Howard(Mar 18 2020 6:33PM):
I agree with this, the people incarcerated will most definitely resort back to what they see fit to make money, moving more carefully but not enough to never get caught.
Sonabelle Konte(Mar 18 2020 4:00PM):
i agree with you, black people were never considered, for as long as we can remember.
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Like the 13th amendment, their was a loop hole to it, because for any little crime they they did, they would be thrown into jail and start doing labor work.
Student Kendall Collier(Mar 20 2020 5:57PM):
I agree, it is really hard for especially for African Americans to find any job really after they had a criminal record. The robbing to take care of themselves maybe, but their might me a available job it might not be a high paid one but still.
Sonabelle Konte(Mar 18 2020 3:57PM):
For the wrong that you have done, you are no longer a human in their eyes.
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People don’t have consideration, for people that have done wrong. Especially is their black, they don’t see the reason to help a minority with problems that they have.
Student Kiera Carlton(Mar 18 2020 6:23PM):
The prison system has created a stigma on ceartin groups of people and it makes transitioning back to normal life hard for all convicts and those people previewed to be convicts. The first video shows how being in jail makes it hard to get a job and all
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of the things that wont be available for those with a record. Things such as student loans, welfare, food stamps etc. These drawbacks make it impossible for people to get back on their feet. It also increase the rate of homelessness and them going back to crime as a means of living.
Sarah Sanquiche(Mar 18 2020 12:53PM):
reason being is lack of healthcare in jail and prisons are not providing the necessity that are required for good health such as the food and well being of a human they treat they criminals like animals
Jalynn King(Mar 18 2020 3:05PM):
i agree with Sarah because I do be seeing all over social media that they do not treat the people good with no type of food or nothing they end up losing everything so lack of food and lack of any of health care , the polices treating them like dog
Student Kiera Carlton(Mar 18 2020 6:24PM):
I agree because it strips the inmates of their basic human rights. People need to be able to take care of themselves and they cant in this situation.
india brown(Mar 18 2020 2:28PM):
In Prisons the inmates are treated so badly, the works has no regard for the care of the humans that have to spend years even decades there. The inmates are basically treated like animals.
Alyssa Fields(Mar 18 2020 3:13PM):
I feel as just because people are incarcerated it does mean they should be treated like animals they our still HUMANS. They should be treated like humans they should have the right to healthcare, good food, and good living.
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People makes mistakes which is something we call life. Being in jail is already a punishment and having lack of healthcare is double punishment and wrong.
There is a difference between punishment, and cruelty. I feel people should understand there are repercussions for their actions, but they are also entitled to being treated fairly and not like an animal.
Imani Lowe(Apr 27 2020 7:35PM):
Prisons treat inmates very inhumanely because most of the time there are no repercussions for their actions.
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They provide inmates with the bare minimum of necessities which is only enough to keep them alive. The health care isn’t very efficient and the inmates cant do anything about it without being punished or overlooked. The food isn’t good and even pushes people to starve themselves. Inmates are no longer seen as human to the justice system. There really is no justice for the inmates and they just have to deal with being abused mentally and physically
Charles Jamison(Mar 18 2020 2:31PM):
I think the fact that prison spending is higher than education spending says a lot. The article says it’s tripled compared to education. If we spent that money on making sure the kids stayed in school or went to college people wouldn’t be hurting for
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Kennedi Williams(Mar 18 2020 7:16PM):
I agree with Charles, that money could be used in a way to better communities, institutions, and crime prevention.
Janae Glakser(Mar 17 2020 5:56PM):
Incarceration is ineffective at reducing crimes that are gang or drug related. This is because the influences and mindsets that lead to the commitment of the crime are deeply rooted in the communities these crimes are committed in.
Charles Jamison(Mar 18 2020 2:33PM):
I agree with this. Jail is going to be ineffective for people who have these mindsets because sometimes it’s all they know and they don’t care enough to change.
Ms. Kavonni Dunn(Mar 18 2020 2:48PM):
Most likely the reason of people "aging out" of crime after their mid- to late-teen years is because they've learned their lesson but also,some don't learn their lesson off rip,so those people are most likely to repeat their crime.
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CHLOE' JORDAN(Mar 17 2020 5:02PM):
crime is a big thing here in america. especially in areas that are in poverty.
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mass incarceration is an issue. i say its an issue because theres always a point in time where they have nomore room for inmates so the cells are overpopulated. its also an issue because theyre holding people for petty crimes like shoplifting out of family dollar
Janae Glakser(Mar 17 2020 6:00PM):
From a cost perspective, mass incarceration is an issue. The funds that are spent on housing inmates for petty crimes could be spent on more important things. Healthcare, environmental protection, etc.
Hailey Griffin(Mar 18 2020 10:43AM):
I agree, people are put in to jail for petty crimes and overcrowding has become a big problem. Sentencing can be unfair.
Sarah Sanquiche(Mar 18 2020 12:56PM):
i agree because the criminals are being wrongfully accused and no supporting evidence and they are just being thrown in jail to die because our system is so corrupted
Student Kendall Collier(Mar 20 2020 5:59PM):
I think like others when i say this but Many people are out in jail for literally no reason and it's for stuff that is not even that serious. Sentencing can be cruel & not fair.
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Its so overcrowded because whoever gets out more than likely will end right back in and thats just the sad truth.
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I agree with Que Howard because inmates do not have a life outside of prison so if they have a little assistance then more than likely the overcrowded would be less crowded
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In this society we have laws where you can go to jail for anything but no activities for anybody. when inmates get out of jails they have nothing to go to so they have no choice but to start doing the same thing they did when they was inside. In life you go through many different phases so I do believe in second chances or giving somebody an opportunity to do something they would like to do.
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Instead of saving and spending $80 billion to make new jails and not new school, I think they should split the money at least. $40 billion towards schools & $40 billion towards jails.
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When mass incarceration happens a majority of the time it is black americans being imprisoned for something little or big. But once they are imprisoned for this to get a job later on their chances are significantly decreased. Which can land them back in jail. Going to jail takes away rights of the people and forever puts a target on their back.
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You cant get a regular job when people look at your background and automatically see you as a criminal from you pass.
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Like the 13th amendment, their was a loop hole to it, because for any little crime they they did, they would be thrown into jail and start doing labor work.
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People don’t have consideration, for people that have done wrong. Especially is their black, they don’t see the reason to help a minority with problems that they have.
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of the things that wont be available for those with a record. Things such as student loans, welfare, food stamps etc. These drawbacks make it impossible for people to get back on their feet. It also increase the rate of homelessness and them going back to crime as a means of living.
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People makes mistakes which is something we call life. Being in jail is already a punishment and having lack of healthcare is double punishment and wrong.
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There is a difference between punishment, and cruelty. I feel people should understand there are repercussions for their actions, but they are also entitled to being treated fairly and not like an animal.
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They provide inmates with the bare minimum of necessities which is only enough to keep them alive. The health care isn’t very efficient and the inmates cant do anything about it without being punished or overlooked. The food isn’t good and even pushes people to starve themselves. Inmates are no longer seen as human to the justice system. There really is no justice for the inmates and they just have to deal with being abused mentally and physically
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mass incarceration is an issue. i say its an issue because theres always a point in time where they have nomore room for inmates so the cells are overpopulated. its also an issue because theyre holding people for petty crimes like shoplifting out of family dollar
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